I've been saying all year that KU would have some games like this because the defense is still bad. We're in the stretch of the season where KU is playing the most high powered offenses in the conference and KU's margin for error just isn't there.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in (NOT) OK BOOMER GAME THREAD:
Does bean have a stronger arm than JD?
Yes, but Daniels has much more precision, accuracy, and touch on his passes. Also much better field vision. I'm not convinced KU wins with Daniels today because of the defense, but I do think KU wins last week and today is more competitive because the score today doesn't really reflect how today went.
@nwhawkfan said in (NOT) OK BOOMER GAME THREAD:
Well, time to switch to the ALDS playoff game. Gotta see at least one of my teams win today.
RCJH
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@jayballer67 said in (NOT) OK BOOMER GAME THREAD:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in (NOT) OK BOOMER GAME THREAD:
@jayballer67 said in (NOT) OK BOOMER GAME THREAD:
See what I don't understand. Here is Oklahoma dead last in the Big 12 in run defense. - I would be making them prove to me they stop us time aftre time instead of Jasons so so passing
OU has done a pretty good job of stopping the run so far is probably a big reason. They've also been stacking the box forcing Bean to beat them.
No they haven't come close to testing their run defense - 12 times in a half ain't squat especially when your playing against the worst run defense in the big 12 who is over 65 yards per game worse then any othr team in the league. - as a matter of fact they are like ranked 122nd out of 131- you have to legit test that kind of run defense more then that
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in (NOT) OK BOOMER GAME THREAD:
@jayballer67 said in (NOT) OK BOOMER GAME THREAD:
See what I don't understand. Here is Oklahoma dead last in the Big 12 in run defense. - I would be making them prove to me they stop us time aftre time instead of Jasons so so passing
OU has done a pretty good job of stopping the run so far is probably a big reason. They've also been stacking the box forcing Bean to beat them.
OU game planned to stop the run by stacking the box and forcing Bean to beat them. Despite the records, OU does still have far superior talent to KU. And now with OU up multiple scores, KU isn't going to be able to run as much because they need to pass to try and catch back up since the defense isn't stopping them today.
We're seeing the difference between Daniels and Bean today on full display and OU is forcing Bean to beat them and he doesn't have the accuracy or touch to consistently do that.
@jayballer67 said in (NOT) OK BOOMER GAME THREAD:
See what I don't understand. Here is Oklahoma dead last in the Big 12 in run defense. - I would be making them prove to me they stop us time aftre time instead of Jasons so so passing
OU has done a pretty good job of stopping the run so far is probably a big reason. They've also been stacking the box forcing Bean to beat them.
@benshawks08 said in Future Big 12 Schedules:
I assume they’ll go back to not playing every team in football too. That 2007 team was great but did dodge OU, Texas, and Texas tech (I think) when those teams were pretty solid.
KU likely would've beaten Texas who went 5-3 in league play and Texas Tech who went 4-4 in league play that year. OU was the only team in the south that would've likely beaten Kansas.
@wissox said in 3 4 star signings:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I like core rotational players! We just won a NC with them. I'm glad we'll have a chance to get to 'know' these three guys because they'll be around for a while. Thanks for your take on them.
There is a danger with these types of players though in that if they don't get the minutes they think they deserve early on, they may look elsewhere to get those minutes.
@wissox 2023 is a very weak recruiting class overall. Zuby who is 46th in the 247 rankings would be a top 25, possibly top 20, recruit in the 2023 class. There's only 16 total 5 star players in the 2023 class which is a very small number since most classes have around 25 players that are considered 5 star players. Elmarko is a good player, but most years, he's much closer to 50th than top 25 in a recruiting class. The players in this class are core, rotational type players, not necessarily immediate impact players.
@drgnslayr said in Future Big 12 Schedules:
The death of conference home-and-home... killing revenge games. Reducing the source to build rivalries. It sucks.
We might as well have just one D1 conference in the entire country and have a schedule lottery every year to pick our games.
This is what happens when you turn D1 over to TV marketing wonks.
Teams and fans reduced to ZERO input. The almighty dollar rules all.
We didn't play home and home when the league had 12. We'd play 5 teams home and home and the other 6 were split 3 home and 3 away.
@justanotherfan said in KU veteran Jason Bean not the only Kansas quarterback prepping for a new role this week:
Ideally Vasko does not play at all this year. He is the guy that needs to be ready to take the reigns after Daniels leaves after next year. Him having three years to start after next season rather than two would be the best case scenario.
He can still play in 4 games this year and keep the redshirt. I don't think it'd be a bad idea in the right situation to get Vasko some game reps this season.
Is Leipold playing coy with Daniels status by calling him doubtful this weekend, or did some people jump the gun about Daniels being out for the year?
@FarmerJayhawk said in Jalon Daniels:
Jalon done for the year 🐦 View Tweet?s=46&t=ZPFMPJdQInYDho1vEbTQuA
That's about a worst case scenario for Daniels. Thankfully Bean is a more than capable option that won't change much for KU's approach and play calling.
@BeddieKU23 said in Late Night:
Didn't include him since he released a Top 2 without KU in it recently
KU is also officially out of the Bronny James sweepstakes, not that KU was going to sign him anyways, with Bronny signing an NIL deal with Nike.
Sounds like Daniels hurt his AC joint in his shoulder which is the same injury Bryce Young is dealing with at Alabama. Looks like KU is going to have to go with Bean in Norman and possibly longer depending on the severity of the injury.
On another positive note, KU is still ranked in the top 20 in both polls which means a lot of people watched and saw KU go toe to toe with potentially the best team in the Big 12 with a back up QB. KU fell to 20th in the coaches poll and remained 19th in the AP poll.
@AsadZ said in JUST BEAT THE TCU LIZARDS:
Credit goes to Bean, he stepped up. One bad INT due to not enough reps with WRs. He made a few outstanding throws for TDs.
We also saw why Daniels beat out Bean for the QB. Bean doesn't have great touch his passes. As great as that Fairchild catch was, Bean put it in a bad spot. Also on that dump off to Neal where he was wide open on that last drive, Daniels likely makes that throw. Bean is a great option for a back up, but we also saw why he was the back up yesterday with his accuracy on his passes.
Self inflicted mistakes today cost KU more than the refs did. The goal line fumble ended up being a 14 point swing, the missed FG. Borcila is terrible from the right hash, seems like everything he kicks from there he hooks it left. Bean not having great touch on his passes with his interception and overthrowing Neal for what would have been a likely tying TD.
The ref absolutely should've called holding on that 4th down play as the DB had Arnold's jersey as Arnold broke in, but KU had too many self inflicted mistakes today to overcome missed calls by the refs.
@FarmerJayhawk said in JUST BEAT THE TCU LIZARDS:
I unfortunately like TCU to cover. Bad matchup for us given their strength is speed on the outside and that is not what we have on defense.
TCU's defense is also nowhere near as strong as ISU's so KU should be able to move and score the ball much easier this week. They don't force many turnovers (tied for 99th), middle of the road in sacks. This should be an entertaining, high scoring game.
The GameDay set will be on the hill between the stadium and the Campanile.
@dylans said in Initial Impressions of Top 25 and 1 Preseason Poll:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Initial Impressions of Top 25 and 1 Preseason Poll:
@dylans said in Initial Impressions of Top 25 and 1 Preseason Poll:
Did you feel they (unc) were a threat last season? I was elated to get them in the final. If that’s the best team this year, it’s wide open.
After Duke thumped them in Chapel Hill, UNC went 13-3 the rest of the way and looked like a top 10 team during most of that stretch. The big difference between UNC last year and UCLA the year before is UCLA wasn't breaking in a new coach. Cronin had his system in place and UCLA just caught fire during their run. Hubert Davis was still figuring out his roster and the light came on about halfway through the season. I'm fully expecting Davis to build on that success and have UNC in contention for a national title this upcoming season.
13-3 isn’t that great. If KU goes 13-3 down the stretch it’s expected - every year. UNC is a very good team, top 10 this year no doubt. Until I see someone else play I can’t tell you who is going to be better, but if that UNC team is deservingly ranked #1 the tournament is wide open. They have a low ceiling - KU was a deeply flawed team last season and they beat them. I don’t see this years UNC team winning 6 without a good draw and a bit of luck.
It took Hubert Davis about half a season to figure his team out. And when that 13-3 stretch started after the 20 point home loss to Duke, UNC was on the wrong side of the bubble in most bracket projections and played their way into the field in the last month of the season.
I do believe UNC is very deserving of a preseason #1 ranking based on who's back and how they were playing at the end of last season. That may change once the games start,
but I suspect UNC will be highly ranked all year and have a much better follow up than UCLA did last season.
@dylans said in Initial Impressions of Top 25 and 1 Preseason Poll:
Did you feel they (unc) were a threat last season? I was elated to get them in the final. If that’s the best team this year, it’s wide open.
After Duke thumped them in Chapel Hill, UNC went 13-3 the rest of the way and looked like a top 10 team during most of that stretch. The big difference between UNC last year and UCLA the year before is UCLA wasn't breaking in a new coach. Cronin had his system in place and UCLA just caught fire during their run. Hubert Davis was still figuring out his roster and the light came on about halfway through the season. I'm fully expecting Davis to build on that success and have UNC in contention for a national title this upcoming season.
@DanR said in Good Grief, Just Beat Iowa State:
Potter leaving is interesting. Seemed like a good player. Hope it goes well for him.
He was barely playing because of off-season upgrades at LB, namely Young from Ohio St. coming in.
@Kcmatt7 said in Anyone concerned about losing Leipold to Nebraska?:
Wisconsin will definitely make him an offer.
LL’s agent has to be licking his chops. Dude is going to get a $7M+ a year deal if I were a betting man.
Wisconsin might kick the tires on Leipold, but unless Leipold just absolutely wants that job, KU should be able to outpay Wisconsin. They've been known as one of the most frugal athletic departments in the P5 for a long time and why they've lost coaches in the past.
It should also be noted that Gavin Potter did not play yesterday to maintain his redshirt and has left the team with the intent to transfer after the season.
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Good Grief, Just Beat Iowa State:
Victory! That was a comedy of odd things on the field today. Poor ISU kicker.
So was the opposing defense that good or did it seem like we didn’t really put Jalon to good use today?
Anybody know about Hinshaw? I honestly don’t know about his previous injuries, but from what I read it sure seemed related to a previous “rare” hip injury. Sucks.
And I’ll just say it (sorry)… Fans, please stop mobbing the field after wins. Just stop. Amateur hour. Injury waiting to happen. You’re better that that.
Iowa St. is probably the best defense in the Big 12 so they did a pretty good job of keying on amd containing Daniels. Daniels also didn't have a great day throwing as he missed a couple of big passes in the endzone. Leipold also said during the post-game conference that he was intentionally more conservative yesterday because of how good ISU's defense is.
Does KU crack the top 20 of the polls? 15, 16, 17, 18, 20, 21, 23, and 24 in the AP poll all lost this week.
@wissox said in Good Grief, Just Beat Iowa State:
We won a game. Not sure how Lance was outcoached. Our defense was coached marvelously.
I'm not going to say our defense coached marvelously today, especially in the second half when ISU was getting good yardage running that crossing route and converting a lot of 3rd and 4th downs with play. We also definitely got lucky their freshman kicker was awful today because we gave ISU several chances to win today. I would definitely consider this a game ISU lost more than KU won.
While I wouldn't necessarily say Leipold got outcoached today, I would say that ISU made the better adjustments in the 2nd half today and pretty much shut KU's offense down and moved the ball much better in the second half than the first half.
At the end of the day, sometimes it's better to be lucky than good and KU was pretty lucky today.
If he commits, does this mean the No Limit family will be the Late Night entertainment in 2024?
@Kcmatt7 said in new entertainment for late night:
This is.... not what I was hoping for. Would like to see them have someone else AND Shaq.
Has to be more to this unless they are saving their pennies to give to lance :face_with_tears_of_joy:
Shaq is a very good DJ and can get a crowd going pretty easily. This is a very solid choice for entertainment.
It's looking more likely GameDay could be coming to KU on October 8 because with both Texas and OU losing on Saturday, the RRR has lost a lot of luster this now. If KU can get to 5-0, it's looking good for KU to host GameDay with the biggest competition being Texas A&M at Alabama.
BetMGM has KU in the mix to be featured on College GameDay at some point over the next 5 games amd I hope it happens!
@jayballer67 said in Just Beat Duke, OK!:
KU not ranked in either poll Coach's or AP. - - - -Oklahoma State 9th - - - - -Baylor - 16th - - - - -Oklahoma - -18th - - -& K/State - - 25th
KU is 26th in the AP poll and 27th in the coaches poll.
@jayballer67 said in Just Beat Duke, OK!:
Seen one source early line Iowa State 2 point favorite
ESPN has ISU at -3 to start.
@stoptheflop said in Just Beat Duke, OK!:
Will KU be ranked or not? CBS Sports speculates that KU will be 25, partially based on emotional response by voters. The AP Poll announces at 3PM Central time. Rock Chalk Baby!
KU isn't ranked in the coaches poll. They came in 27th and the 4th highest ranked B12 team. There are 9 Big 12 teams receiving votes in the coaches poll this week.
@stoptheflop said in Just Beat Duke, OK!:
Maybe KU will take Texas' place in the top 25 now that TxTech beat Tx.
There's several teams that will drop out this week. Texas, Miami, Wake Forest, and Florida have all lost, and Texas A&M should probably lose to Arkansas tonight. Those are all teams ranked between 20-25 so I think there's a pretty solid chance KU ends up ranked tomorrow.
@Gorilla72 said in Just Beat Duke, OK!:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Just Beat Duke, OK!:
@Gorilla72 said in Just Beat Duke, OK!:
Great day so far. KU wins. Pitt State wins. Fizzou loses. Hoping K-State beats OU. 🎉
I'm good with the kitties getting stomped tonight.
I live near Tulsa. Too many OU flags here. Too many SEC, SEC, SEC comments from locals. Kansas born.
My dad was a Sooner so I grew up cheering for OU and if I didn't go to KU, I most likely would've gone to OU instead. I still cheer for OU when they aren't playing Kansas.
The offense will give KU a chance just about every week because our defense, though significantly improved from last year, is still a bad defense overall.
@Gorilla72 said in Just Beat Duke, OK!:
Great day so far. KU wins. Pitt State wins. Fizzou loses. Hoping K-State beats OU. 🎉
I'm good with the kitties getting stomped tonight.
@stoptheflop KU's defense currently ranks 84th in total defense and 83rd in scoring defense and Houston did outgain KU on offense last week. They're improved from last year, but improved from the worst still only gets them to a bad defense. West Virginia is a good team with a good offense and they had no issues moving the ball and scoring on KU's defense.
Is Duke better than West Virginia? No, but they've looked better than Houston has so far on offense so they'll be able to score on KU's defense. Duke's defense has average against bad teams so I expect KU's offense to carve up Duke's defense and put up a lot of points today.
I look for KU to win today with a score of 49-35
@MoonwalkMafia said in Dare yourselves to be optimistic! KU Football:
@nuleafjhawk Ya, if I was betting on the OSU or Texas game, I wouldn't bet on KU to win. I'm just saying...hey, it could happen. Nobody expected us to beat TX on the road last year, and we played our best game of the season. Who knows...maybe?
@mayjay I understand where you're coming from. And if our RB room was as thin as it was last year, I'd share your concern. But Devin Neal is the real deal, as is Daniel Hishaw. JD is our leading rusher because he ran for 158 yards last week. Devin Neal could easily run for 200 yards against Duke. JD being able to run the ball is a nice element. But our offense isn't dependent on him rushing for 150 yards a game. And man, our offensive line is opening holes that you could drive a semi-truck through.
Some of the points I'm reading on this page are exactly what I'm talking about. Don't get greedy? We're not talking about betting our life savings on winning the conference. I'm just trying to get people to realize that KU is a good team and that there are probably more winnable games on the schedule than people realize. The Big 12 is not exactly lighting the world on fire, and I just don't see KU starting the season 4-0, then going 1-7 or 2-6 the rest of the way. Stop thinking the wheels will come off based on the past.
But that's why they play the games, right? We'll see what happens. This should be a fun season.
KU's offense is good enough to give them a chance basically every week. I could see a couple of blow outs happening within the OU, Baylor, and OSU trio of games because thise are the three best teams and KU isn't going to have their A game every week and our defense isn't that good yet and we've yet to see them play an elite offense. Teams can't circle KU as basically an extra bye week anymore and this team has a genuine chance to get to 6-0 before they play a really good team this season.
@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:
Yeah he certainly would be high profile. He just told the world he wanted to be a billionaire by 25.. If Self believes in his game then that's good enough for me. I have my concerns about the kind of baggage that comes with someone such as him. We'll see. I'm very interested to see how his Sr season goes as well.
who knows maybe he REALLY does want to play some College ball , like you said If Bill thinks he wants him - - - good enough for me, and it seems like KU has high interest and he sems pretty interested in us
With NIL, he'll make a lot more money going to college through NIL deals than going pro overseas or G-League, or going straight to the NBA if that's in place for next draft.
Too many unforced errors with the net violations on points KU would've won otherwise.
Really hoping it ends up a sweep because I may not make it up longer than that of it goes to a 4th or 5th set.
KU Volleyball will be on ESPN2 tomorrow night hosting #1 Texas from a sold out Horejsi Center.
@nwhawkfan Unfortunately, even if KU and ISU both go 4-0, it'd be highly unlikely for GameDay to consider that match up sincer there's potentially 2 top 10 games that weekend with Alabama going to Arkansas and Clemson hosting NC State. There's also likely going to be two other games between ranked teams with Kentucky at Ole Miss and Baylor and Okie St. also playing next weekend. Week 6 could be a more likely possibility if both KU and TCU are still undefeated at that point with the Red River Rivalry being the major obstacle in week 6.
Jalon Daniels was named the Walter Camp national offensive player of the week.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Just Beat Duke, OK!:
Opened at KU -8
When was the last time KU was a favorite against a P5 team?
Unfortunately, College GameDay will be in Knoxville for Tennessee/Florida. I'm guessing being on FS1 really hurt the chances of ESPN considering coming to Lawrence for the first time ever.
Also, KU received 5 votes in the coaches poll this week. I'm assuming it's the first time since 2009 that KU has received votes in a football poll.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Drop the Cougs:
@Texas-Hawk-10 did you get hailed on?🫧🫧🫧🫧
It didn't hail at the stadium. We went to the concourse when the downpour started and then back to our seats after KU's first TD when the rain started letting up. It wasn't even raining hard when the lightning delay began.
Today was fun. The alumni tailgate sold out, KU's visitor allotment of tickets sold out. It was loud and the rain didn't drive people off. The fans were loud throughout the game. Obviously we were worried when UH went up 14-0 quickly, but the momentum shifted very quickly after the Logan interception. Daniels has become a very good QB and hopefully KU receives some votes in the polls this week.