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@Marco said in 2021 Recruiting:

@Texas-Hawk-10 I think Muscadin can and will contribute, even this season. He is big and has handles, can shoot from deep and drive. I am really not understanding why everyone thinks that he's not going to contribute. I heard the same about Agbaji and Braun, and what happened? Muscadin is going to not only play as a freshman, but play pretty well.

Gethro needs to add a lot of weight first. 6-10, 215 is skinny to hold position on defense. He would get owned on that end of the floor and forced off his spot with ease on offense.

Agbaji isn't that good. He's one of the most athletic players Self has ever had, but he can't shoot, can't dribble, a subpar passer, and has a very low basketball IQ. There's a reason why Agbaji was ranked as low as he was. PER measures a player's offensive efficiency and 15 is considered average. Agbaji had a 13.1 PER last season and dropped to a 10.4 in conference games. I cannot emphasize enough just how bad a 10.4 PER is.

Christian Braun is going to be a sniper for KU. Over half his shots (55%) came from 3 last year and I expect that percentage will go up every year and end up being a better version of Brady Morningstar for Self.

@approxinfinity said in Let's Cancel "Cancel Culture"!:

@kjayhawks Trump is a horrible businessman. I think Trump was attacked when you mentioned him more than you were attacked. People wanted to add a disclaimer, because Trump is an idiot. And it's hard to call anyone a thing they are really bad at. 6 bankruptcies. :man_shrugging: is someone who can't catch fish a fisherman? Is someone who can't teach a teacher?
I think you were suggesting that his actions were in line with those of a businessman. It's just that a lot of his actions, like tanking the economy by bungling a pandemic in a circus freak show assortment of ways, make one think he would never be a businessman if he wasn't Fred's golden boy.

"Trump is a horrible businessman."

You're adding a qualification to statement that had none which is exactly what you and others did the when I said Trump was a businessman. That's part of the problem is a lot of people here are incapable of staying civil when Trump's name is brought up. When I said Trump was a businessman, and yes @kjayhawks is referring to a post I made a few weeks back, you and several others here immediately jumped down my throat for saying Trump is a businessman despite the fact that I didn't adding any adjectives (positive or negative) in front of businessman.

I also said in that same post that I liked a couple of the trade deals he had made for the US because I believed they were beneficial to the US and that got spun into me being full blown Trump supporter instead of being someone who is capable of judging actions and decisions based on the actual outcomes of those decisions regardless of who made the decision.

At the end of the day, when Trump does something well, I'm actually willing to give him credit for it just like I have no problem criticizing bad decisions he makes such as basically every decision he's made in regards to COVID-19. I was the same way with Obama. I think DACA is step in the right direction in regards to immigration, and I believe some variation of the DREAM Act that allows DACA recipients to eventually become citizens should be a goal. I was also highly critical of the ACA (Obamacare) because the reality is that it hurt a lot of businesses and made a lot people's insurance worse or more expensive to keep the same coverage. The intention was good, but that's something that quite frankly needed to be a bipartisan bill.

My line of reasoning behind this is because I studied history at KU so that's the mindset I take in regards to looking at how something will play out. I look at the last to see how it affects the future.

I have a cousin who's pretty extreme alt-right in her beliefs now after being liberal most of her life and she posted a meme on Facebook awhile about the difference between moms back then (Boomers and Gen X generations) and moms today (Millennials) in how they raise kids and didn't really appreciate or see the irony when I pointed out that mom's then are the ones who raised mom's now.

@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

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Yikes!

Recruiting seems not great atm, fortunate to land Clemence. Need to just get the NCAA crap done with. Doesn't seem like we have a shot at any elite 5s, but at least we will have SR Dave hopefully.

Hard to land top talent when there aren't a lot of immediate minutes available, especially when none of the underclassmen are surefire early departure candidates.

A 2021-22 starting 5 of Harris, Thompson, Agbaji, TGF/Clemence, and Dave seems like a solid bet.

If Self and staff feel like Gethro can contribute in 2021, then the front court is the lowest priority. At this point, all attention should be on the back court for 2021 because that's where KU looks like they're going to be hurting the most right now in 2021 without much depth, particularly at the 2 spot.

If your looking for Gethro to help in 2021 then we really are IN TROUBLE - that's exactly why we need another really goof quality big man in this class

Which is why I said, "If Self and staff..."

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark

Yikes!

Recruiting seems not great atm, fortunate to land Clemence. Need to just get the NCAA crap done with. Doesn't seem like we have a shot at any elite 5s, but at least we will have SR Dave hopefully.

Hard to land top talent when there aren't a lot of immediate minutes available, especially when none of the underclassmen are surefire early departure candidates.

A 2021-22 starting 5 of Harris, Thompson, Agbaji, TGF/Clemence, and Dave seems like a solid bet.

If Self and staff feel like Gethro can contribute in 2021, then the front court is the lowest priority. At this point, all attention should be on the back court for 2021 because that's where KU looks like they're going to be hurting the most right now in 2021 without much depth, particularly at the 2 spot.

None of this information is new. There's a largely redacted section of the NCAA's NOA against KU that had the name "Drame" not redacted so it's been known for awhile Diallo was apart of the investigation. I know I've specifically mentioned Diallo's name when people questioned who the third name was that I would refeence since only Silvio and Preston were named unredacted.

Also, Diallo's eligibility issues that the NCAA investigation was about then was related to Diallo's academics and the high school he attended here in the States (https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2593206-kansas-rejoices-as-cheick-diallos-ncaa-eligibility-ordeal-finally-ends.amp.html). ↗ They didn't investigate financials at the time.

Unless there's something blatant during recruiting, the NCAA's initial eligibility ruling usually comes from the Clearinghouse based on academics.

I will keep saying this. $$$ talks and FCS schools and lower will cancel because it's better financially for them too. P5 conferences will do whatever they have to do in order to have a season because of how much money is on the line for those schools. I think there could be a split on the G5 conferences. I could see the AAC and MWC pressing on with their seasons in a conference only format and the MWC taking back BYU for a year if they do, while C-USA, MAC, and Sun Belt probably cancel because I don't believe those schools make money on football.

If football can't happen this fall, I expect the conferences and TV networks to push college football into the spring because of the money involved on both ends with the NCAA not caring what happens with football since they don't make any money off of college football.

@hawkfan01 That information is 4 years old and appears like it is only considering concert and entertainment related activities, not sports. All but one of the other venues on the list are home to at least 1 NBA/NHL team which is at least 41 events per year, 82 events minimum if there's both leagues in a venue.

@FarmerJayhawk 💩 is about all there is in regards to options. There's no one blanket option that's going to work across-the-board. Since the TEA here in Texas at this point has no plans to work in their offices until January, but still expect teachers to show up everyday even if they've been exposed and only stay home if they have any symptoms until they get test results back. If a teacher tests positive and has to miss a bunch of time and go over however many sick days they have, then you don't get paid for those days you miss after you've run out of days.

The TEA is also planning on moving forward with their standardized testing this year even though most schools will likely have shutdowns at some point and will be playing catch up from last year since most teachers I know reported only about 1/3 of students actually did any work last spring because word got out quickly that they couldn't be retained for not doing that work. A lot of teachers are pretty pissed off at the TEA because of their hypocrisy in handling the situation.

My personal thoughts are the TEA needs to invest in technology to get every district to a 1:1 ratio in regards to technology whether it's through Chromebooks or tablets or something so kids have access to technology at least. Most politicians on both sides are only really focused of the needs of students, but not on the needs of teachers in regards to reopening plans and that's going to bite people in the ass when schools have a Covid outbreak and have to shut back down. It doesn't matter if it's 5 days a week or alternating days, having in person learning at this point, at least here in Texas and probably most of the south, is just going to result in a cycle of outbreaks, shut downs, and returns and be far more disruptive than starting online.

My district specifically this week sent out emails to parents giving them the option of sending their kids to school for in person learning or staying home. What they didn't do is provide any details on what protocols will be in place to attempt to minimize the risk of an outbreak. The district hasn't even sent a plan to teachers about what on campus instruction will look like and I'm 2 weeks out from having to return to campus to start prepping for football, if it happens. Without an answer to that, I don't know if I have 2 or 3 weeks of summer left and my campus athletic coordinator doesn't know yet either. That's an answer that needs to be made known as well because of how much money in stipends is involved.

My savings account prefers on campus with sports because no sports means about $7,000 in salary reduction for me which is a significant amount of money to have in limbo at this point.

If you're going to ask me which one would be the least disruptive, I would go with online because then there's at least consistency there and has the lowest risk of disruption in learning. That said, lower socio-economic school districts like mine that simply don't have the resources to get 1:1 technology at this point make going online impractical and not feasible.

Realistically, the decision needs to be district by district and in the case of larger school districts, school by school in regards to what's best for those populations.

@FarmerJayhawk Based on my personal experience, I straight up disagree with an alternating day schedule being the best option for the reasons I mentioned.

@jayballer73 Two other P5 schools have already made their decisions. That's going to impact the SEC more than the SEC impacts them so expect the SEC to announce a conference only schedule when they make their announcement.

There's also been plenty of talk of moving football to the spring this year so bet on that for P5 conferences before anything gets officially cancelled because again there is too much money at stake for P5 conferences to cancel revenue sports at this point.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:

@FarmerJayhawk said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:

@kjayhawks said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:

@benshawks08 I’m not sure what to think as a parent. My son needs the structure badly with his autism and we all continue to work. It would be impossible for his daycare to have dozens of computers and try to online stuff much. He hates doing it to boot. I keep hearing about having every other day between grades. I’m lucky because our district may have 500 kids in it from pre-K to 12th grade total. Not sure what the right answer is but it has negatively effected him and he is losing progress because of this. The first 6-8 years are huge for autism kids and what he is losing at this point, he may never recover from. Small children won’t wear mask or social distance, you’d have better luck training a monkey to mow your yard. That being said it needs to be safe. It is a lose lose for us at this point.

I’ve been following this for quite awhile now, in part as a education scholar and in part as an interested instructor. I think we’re down to the least bad option. I’ve come down to we basically have to run schools basically as I went to kindergarten; alternating MWF/TU weeks. Basically have to quarantine teachers during the year. I hate it with almost every fiber of my being but I can’t find a better option. Entirely open to suggestions.

Alternating days doesn't work either because those plans that have been proposed still call for teachers on campus every day so teachers can't help kids on their days off campus. You also run into issues of childcare for younger kids in single parent households or where both parents have to work outside the home.

One district here in Houston has already announced they're going to be online only this year, but I'm fully preparing to have about 9 months of no social life or be able to see my mom who's in her early 70's because exposure is going to happen and districts here have pretty much said unless you're showing symptoms, show up and if catch Covid, tough luck because you aren't getting any extra sick days if you need them.

This school year is going to be an absolute 💩show this year because there is no good option. They are all 💩 plans with significant issues that can't realistically be solved.

I think it could work. I didn't even have full time kindergarten in Kansas. Half the grade went MWF one week, TU the next. If you incorporated the online element, you could conceivably pull it off so long as you give folks some runway to plan. I don't like it, but I think both the full bore everyone in person or nobody in person are unacceptable. It keeps buses less full, and classrooms more spaced out so you mitigate risk to the most people while still getting some in person instruction.

It's still a 💩 plan because you're now asking teachers to do two jobs. If students go alternating days to reduce class sizes, who helps students with questions about their assignments when those kids are off campus? Is it the teacher of record who would presumably be in a classroom teaching the other half of students supposed to take even more of their own time to answer those questions? How do special education students receive their services online? How does a kid who can't afford the technology to work from home acquire that technology when the school district doesn't have enough devices to have a 1:1 ratio? What do you do for the kid that's too young to stay home alone, but doesn't have a parent or guardian that can accommodate their schedule or afford child care?

Alternating days is not a viable solution for this issue because what's going to happen with that plan is an insane amount of burnout among teachers from being overworked which will lead to much more reduced level of education than either of the other two options.

@jayballer73 FCS schools and lower divisions do not profit off of athletics at all so it's not a big deal to those schools to cancel because it actually saves money. This is why many FCS programs take games against P5 schools because those checks help subsidize a big chunk of their athletics budget.

This is also why the P5 schools at this point are moving to conference only instead of cancellation. The TV deals with ESPN, CBS, and Fox are far too valuable to give up for P5 schools. Football will get postponed to the spring before it gets cancelled because of the amount of money involved from TV networks.

@hawkfan01 said in T-Mobile Center taking over for Sprint Center in downtown KCMO:

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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in T-Mobile Center taking over for Sprint Center in downtown KCMO:

@Kcmatt7 said in T-Mobile Center taking over for Sprint Center in downtown KCMO:

Realistically, does Sprint Center actuall make money for KC? Factoring in maintenance and operating costs, it seems like Sprint Center should operate in the red for the city due to the lack of a professional team (NBA/NHL) calling the building home.

I don't know about currently, but for a long time, the Sprint Center did make money for KC. It was actually wildly profitable for AEG so the profit sharing agreement kicked in (I think anything above 15% kicked into a profit split). Sprint Center at one time was somewhere around one of the 10 busiest arenas in the world. Not having a pro sports team was a good thing. All the suite and club suite revenue went to the building operator versus if we had a pro team, they would have gotten all the money. Plus, without a pro team taking all the plum dates, KC gets all these concerts and other events that used to pass us by. I don't know this, but I actually think the former President of AEG (Tim Leiweke) used KC as his model case for his current business where he's literally building (primarily) concert arenas.

Pro teams don't take dates away from major concert tours. Most arena tours are booked far enough in advance to be able to promote the shows that it's usually the NBA and NHL that have to schedule around those shows.

The way it usually works when a team plays in a city owned facility is the franchise has to pay the city to play their games in that venue with some kind of lease agreement. This is why franchises coming up at the end of a lease agreement will usually try to leverage a city for a new stadium or threaten to relocate. This is what happened here in Houston with the Oilers. Bud Adams (I don't care that he's a KU alum, f*** him) got the city to pay for a bunch of renovations to the Astrodome and then turned around a couple of years later and tried to get a new downtown football stadium built and only offered to pay 25% of the costs. The city voted it down and Adams reached an agreement to move to Nashville and people boycotted Oilers games their final year here.

@Kcmatt7 said in T-Mobile Center taking over for Sprint Center in downtown KCMO:

My point is just that people will still just call it the sprint center because it was named that first.

I know about the merger.

I know why people accept millions of dollars for meaningless naming rights to complexes.

Just feel like I need to clear that up, apparently.

Because hearing the sponsor's name 100 times a game is clearly meaningless for business.

Also, most people will adjust just fine within a few months to the new name. You wanna know how I know that? Because it's happened here in Houston twice in past 20 years. Enron lost the naming right to the Astros stadium within the first year or two of the stadium opening and was replaced by Minute Maid. Didn't take people long to adjust to that. We also had our NFL stadium go through a name change a pretty recently from Reliant Stadium to NRG Stadium and the vast majority of people here have no issues with the name change anymore and this was in the past 3 years.

@Kcmatt7 said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

@Kcmatt7 said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

Trump squeaks it out at best. No landslide possible. Biden is closing in on a sure victory. One swing state and Biden wins. Potential for Trump to lose in embarrassing fashion.

Just the way the polls look. Not my opinion in any way. It looks like the most Trump could get is 316. His margin for error is tiny. Biden has the potential to 378 with current polls the way they look.

Trump has taken a nosedive in the polls. He will need a repeat of 2016 to win. And I just don’t think he has that same momentum. People HATED Clinton. I don’t think there is the same hate for Biden...

Biden has enough skeletons in his closet and is going up against someone that will ruthlessly exploit those skeletons when campaign season starts. Plus Biden still has to make through debates with Trump as well and since he isn't very eloquent either, debate season could be a gold mine of outrageous sound bites from both Trump and Biden. This is the year for the Libertarian and Green Parties to open up their wallets to promote their candidates strongly and try to get them included in the debates this fall.

Sure. A long ways to go.

But as of today it still looks like Trumps margin for error is razor thin. It was razor thin 4 years ago and he pulled it off.

I don’t agree on the third party this year. I did 4 years ago (voted Johnson myself).

I don't mean that a 3rd party would win this year, but with the outright disgust so people have with both mainstream parties right now, this is the year for a 3rd party to push to get invited to the debates and increase their profile to start giving themselves a better chance in the future. If the Libertarian or Green Parties don't take advantage of the situation being laid out in front of them this year, they may never get a better chance to break into the main stream and become real players in state and national level elections.

@Kcmatt7 You do know the name change is because T-Mobile bought Sprint right?

@Kcmatt7 said in T-Mobile Center taking over for Sprint Center in downtown KCMO:

This is why naming rights are stupid.

Unless you’re the first, nobody is calling it right.

If I asked you where the Hy-bee arena was you’d have to google it. (It’s Kempers name).

Naming right help ease the burden on tax payers because a lot of that money is used to maintain and renovate facilities as needed instead of passing bonds for it.

I'd much rather see cities tell team owners that if they want a new stadium/arena to find a corporate partner to help fund it and give them naming rights than forcing tax payers to foot the bill.

I despise the Cowboys with a passion, but I respect Jerry Jones for not holding the city of Dallas hostage for a new stadium. He went and bought the land AT&T Stadium sits on and financed the stadium himself and it really is the best stadium in football and possibly the world.

Realistically, does Sprint Center actuall make money for KC? Factoring in maintenance and operating costs, it seems like Sprint Center should operate in the red for the city due to the lack of a professional team (NBA/NHL) calling the building home.

@Kcmatt7 said in The "crap on Trump" thread:

Trump squeaks it out at best. No landslide possible. Biden is closing in on a sure victory. One swing state and Biden wins. Potential for Trump to lose in embarrassing fashion.

Just the way the polls look. Not my opinion in any way. It looks like the most Trump could get is 316. His margin for error is tiny. Biden has the potential to 378 with current polls the way they look.

Trump has taken a nosedive in the polls. He will need a repeat of 2016 to win. And I just don’t think he has that same momentum. People HATED Clinton. I don’t think there is the same hate for Biden...

Biden has enough skeletons in his closet and is going up against someone that will ruthlessly exploit those skeletons when campaign season starts. Plus Biden still has to make through debates with Trump as well and since he isn't very eloquent either, debate season could be a gold mine of outrageous sound bites from both Trump and Biden. This is the year for the Libertarian and Green Parties to open up their wallets to promote their candidates strongly and try to get them included in the debates this fall.

$$$ will ensure at least the P5 play this year. There is far too much money at stake for the P5 schools to cancel. This is their biggest income generator for schools and they're going to fight to play.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:

@kjayhawks said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:

@benshawks08 I’m not sure what to think as a parent. My son needs the structure badly with his autism and we all continue to work. It would be impossible for his daycare to have dozens of computers and try to online stuff much. He hates doing it to boot. I keep hearing about having every other day between grades. I’m lucky because our district may have 500 kids in it from pre-K to 12th grade total. Not sure what the right answer is but it has negatively effected him and he is losing progress because of this. The first 6-8 years are huge for autism kids and what he is losing at this point, he may never recover from. Small children won’t wear mask or social distance, you’d have better luck training a monkey to mow your yard. That being said it needs to be safe. It is a lose lose for us at this point.

I’ve been following this for quite awhile now, in part as a education scholar and in part as an interested instructor. I think we’re down to the least bad option. I’ve come down to we basically have to run schools basically as I went to kindergarten; alternating MWF/TU weeks. Basically have to quarantine teachers during the year. I hate it with almost every fiber of my being but I can’t find a better option. Entirely open to suggestions.

Alternating days doesn't work either because those plans that have been proposed still call for teachers on campus every day so teachers can't help kids on their days off campus. You also run into issues of childcare for younger kids in single parent households or where both parents have to work outside the home.

One district here in Houston has already announced they're going to be online only this year, but I'm fully preparing to have about 9 months of no social life or be able to see my mom who's in her early 70's because exposure is going to happen and districts here have pretty much said unless you're showing symptoms, show up and if catch Covid, tough luck because you aren't getting any extra sick days if you need them.

This school year is going to be an absolute 💩show this year because there is no good option. They are all 💩 plans with significant issues that can't realistically be solved.

@jayballer73 said in What we all knew was happening at Duke with Zion is finally hitting the fan.:

@rockchalkwyo said in What we all knew was happening at Duke with Zion is finally hitting the fan.:

https://www.facebook.com/460433434150081/posts/1343120839214665/?d=n ↗

So Zion was paid 400k? Does anyone know if this story is legit?

alot that you see posted off face book are fake

It's the 24/7 article on it linked from Facebook.

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:

@kjayhawks said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:

@Texas-Hawk-10 I’m sure they are the B10 is looking at only playing conference games. I’d say it’s only a matter of time before everything is cancelled at this point.

There's too much money on the line for P5 conferences to cancel football and basketball. Those TV deals fund a very significant % of athletic departments at this level. In basketball, we'll probably see the preseason tournaments get cancelled and a reduction in non conference games to regional opponents to minimize travel.

With the B10's decision, I'm curious what's going to happen to Notre Dame and BYU in football since they're independent. ND could at least probably fill out a schedule with ACC teams since that's their non football affiliation even though partnering with the B10 this year would make more sense for football because of being geographically in the middle of the B10 footprint.

BYU might be in more trouble trying to play football this year if the MWC, Pac 12, and Big 12 go conference only since BYU's non football affiliation is with the non-football sponsoring West Coast Conference.

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This is the first time I'm really doubting we get sports at all in the fall.

The TV contracts for the P5 are too valuable which is why P5 leagues are going conference only. Other than the B12, every other league is big enough to play at least 11 games against FBS schools and get their full slate in.

This is also why the NBA is playing 8 regular season games before going into the playoffs and why there's talk of a separate bubble set up for the other 8 teams so they can reach the number of games needed to meet local TV broadcast numbers and make that money as well because that's their biggest income source.

I wouldn't be shocked at all to see FCS and lower cancel football this year, not sure if the G5 will or not yet, but I still have a very difficult time envisioning P5 schools cancelling football this year simply because of the money involved.

@kjayhawks said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:

@Texas-Hawk-10 I’m sure they are the B10 is looking at only playing conference games. I’d say it’s only a matter of time before everything is cancelled at this point.

There's too much money on the line for P5 conferences to cancel football and basketball. Those TV deals fund a very significant % of athletic departments at this level. In basketball, we'll probably see the preseason tournaments get cancelled and a reduction in non conference games to regional opponents to minimize travel.

With the B10's decision, I'm curious what's going to happen to Notre Dame and BYU in football since they're independent. ND could at least probably fill out a schedule with ACC teams since that's their non football affiliation even though partnering with the B10 this year would make more sense for football because of being geographically in the middle of the B10 footprint.

BYU might be in more trouble trying to play football this year if the MWC, Pac 12, and Big 12 go conference only since BYU's non football affiliation is with the non-football sponsoring West Coast Conference.

@drgnslayr said in What we all knew was happening at Duke with Zion is finally hitting the fan.:

@Texas-Hawk-10

I respect your overall knowledge of this case. You know more than I do. Most of what I share is based on my personal experience with the civil court. Letter of the law is important, but the spirit of the law counts, too. From what I see in this, Kansas has a great position in a courtroom, especially a federal courtroom.

Don't you think Kansas expected it would be used against them to accept Adidas as a booster? Were we so desperate to get a bench player back? You know the answer to that. We were strong-armed into that move. We are heroes for coming to the defense of our player who was "played" by the NCAA.

Take a break from reading bylaws, stand back and develop the narrative of this case. That will be a better representation of what Kansas will deliver in court.

Our world would be so much more dangerous if courts only used the letter of the law. Just think at all those wordy disclosures each of us sign off on to use a website or install a piece of software. If we only used letter of the law those lengthy "legal documents" would turn us all into serfs.

And the NCAA turning to use a third-party group of legal goons is not going fair well in court either. Just my opinion. I suspect any finding they come up with will warrant a monster financial penalty. Once again, we are victims and they have us in a position to strong-arm us, and they did! What is the real purpose of a third-party being involved? It's setting up a kangaroo court stacked with goons! Not going to play well in a federal court. '

Imagine you decided to use a piece of software you bought on an extra computer and were not allowed to do so in the legal blurb you "accepted" when first using that software company's software. On line 3847, it says clearly in legal talk that you can't do that and you have accepted them as becoming a private member of their organization. They catch what you did and they've setup a bogus group of thugs to decide your fate.

Do you realize how a decision in the NCAA's favor here would most likely change everything in our society, for the negative? It would give a path for corporatism to smash us all like ants (further). If the NCAA wins in a lower court, it's a clear case for appeal continually until reaching the Supreme Court (if necessary).

I think the NCAA will eventually smell the roses and will back down. Hopefully, sooner rather than later. This should be negotiated to somehow allow both sides to save face and move on.

The IARP is not a court room and they aren't "NCAA goons" as you keep trying to refer to them as. They are not an extension of the NCAA because if they were, why in the hell would any school agree to have their case go that route knowing they can't appeal a ruling? The IARP is more in line with an arbitration or mediation since BOTH parties involved have to agree to it and it has to be approved by the IARP to be reviewed. Out of the 3 cases that the IARP has accepted so far, the NCAA only recommended two of them to go that route (NC State and KU), while Memphis was the one who requested it for the James Wiseman case.

The IARP also does their own investigation of cases and since their investigators have much more powerful connections than the NCAA, their investigation is likely to be much more thorough and in-depth than the NCAA's investigation. Their investigators include connections to the FBI, IRS, and other federal agencies so they have the ability to gain access to records and documents the NCAA can't get ahold of.

You do realize that I've referenced an article from the Athletic multiple times in regards to the potential impact an IARP ruling in the favor of the NCAA in regards to the booster status of Adidas on amateur sports would have, so clearly I'm aware of those ramifications.

Even though KU and Self have threatened legal action in the event of an unfavorable ruling, I'm not sure any court is going to take the case because of the caveat of both parties agreeing to let the IARP decide a case is unappealable. It's very likely a court would toss out any motion to appeal, from either side, citing that both parties entered into an agreement to let an independent third party decide a case and neither side could appeal the ruling.

@kjayhawks said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:

@Texas-Hawk-10 would make sense to bring them in to an empty campus so it doesn’t spread. I’ll bet they’ll cancel that too in the end.

Except most conferences have already publicly said that if there are no in person classes, they won't bring in athletes either. Considering Stanford just dropped a bunch of sports, it could get real ugly for non-revenue sports at a lot of schools.

This is also why so many major conference schools are pushing for at least a hybrid model so they can bring in athletes and have a season because of how much money schools make off of their TV deals.

@kjayhawks said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:

@Texas-Hawk-10 Basketball isn’t a fall sport

Not officially, but considering the season begins in October with practice and Harvard not having any classes on campus this year, do you really think they're gonna bring in just the athletes while everyone else stays home?

Looks like at least one game will have to either be dropped or rescheduled as the Ivy League has announced they will not participate in any sports this fall.

@mayjay I'm merely pointing out what the NCAA's logic and justification, not their hypocrisy.

An upholding of the ruling that an apparel company and its representatives as boosters would completely alter college and amateur athletics. I would recommend reading an article from the Athletic talking about the potential ramifications of upholding the NCAA's case for apparel companies as boosters.

Realistically, what the NCAA needs to do is create two new sections to deal with corporate sponsors and apparel manufacturers.

@kjayhawks said in Mahomes' massive contract.:

If he can stay healthy his net worth could mirror MJs. Once this contract is started, I read he will make over $10 a minute during it. With his adidas contract, his commercials for State Farm, Amazon, Head & Shoulders and Hunts that aren’t included in that contract it will be an insane amount of money he piles up. Honestly it makes me not want to watch, I don’t think people should make that kind of money lol.

MJ is currently worth about $2.1 billion. That vast majority of that comes from something Mahomes doesn't have and likely will never have and that's his own brand. The Jordan brand is where the vast majority of MJ's worth comes from.

The reality is Mahomes deal is really only worth $140 million because of the guarantees. It only gets to the $503 million mark if Mahomes plays out the next 12 years to fulfill that contract. And that's all before taxes. Take about 40% away and it's a deal that really worth about $300 if Mahomes plays it out with a guarantee of about $85 million. Even throwing in his endorsements, by the time this contract is up, if Mahomes maxes out and gets everything, would only be about 15% of MJ's worth.

Since Mahomes probably isn't going get his own apparel brand like MJ, the only way Mahomes is getting into MJ's neighborhood is investing his money and doing what Shaq and other athletes frequently do and become a franchisee for certain chains. Since one of Mahomes favorite restaurants is Whataburger and they just announced last week they are expanding into KC, I would be shocked if Mahomes doesn't become a spokesman for them and probably invest in several franchises around the KC area.

@drgnslayr said in What we all knew was happening at Duke with Zion is finally hitting the fan.:

@Texas-Hawk-10

I understood your post. Your most recent response exactly lays it out and I agree with you.

Yes... under duress, we agreed to accept the NCAA's statement that Adidas is a booster in order to lower the over-penalty of Silvio. Why do you think we would put ourselves in such a position just to free a bench player?

What many see as a mistake on the part of KU... I see as a positive move. The NCAA is playing checkers while KU is playing chess and are many moves ahead. I seriously doubt that it makes a difference if KU accepts Adidas as a booster. These strong-arm bouncers hired by the NCAA to role us are going to do the same thing regardless of KU's decision on Adidas.

When the NCAA charges hit KU we were already prepared on what to do. We are a victim in this case and we knew our strength was to stay in that role. When the NCAA extorted us to free Silvio, they did nothing but enhance our position in the victim role.

I'm certain I see through crimson/blue glasses... but I look at it this way; the way we played this definitely requires self belief in our innocence. I've often called Bill Self the "Riverboat Gambler" because of the way he holds his cards close to his chest and often gives vague info about the hand he is in. This is NOT how he is playing this! There is no bluff here. Way too dangerous to put Kansas in the position of relying on a bluff. No one knows the insides of this case more than Self. If we were guilty of institutional violations he wouldn't be playing the long hand. We will see if the NCAA and their roughnecks will call on their hand or fold, but if they call, we can expect this case to extend into a federal courtroom, perhaps regardless what the NCAA does now.

"I seriously doubt that it makes a difference if KU accepts Adidas as a booster." Actually, it does because this is the basis for this entire case against KU, and also NC State and Louisville. All of the hell that is potentially coming KU's way is centered around this decision and it's very possible the IARP could decide KU was not coerced into making that declaration and uphold the NCAA's decision and ruling.

Have you actually read the bylaw the NCAA is using against KU, NC State, Louisville to justify TJ Gassnola and Adidas as a booster of each program? By the letter of that specific bylaw, TJ Gassnola and Adidas fit the definition of being considered a booster for each school.

13.02.15 Representative of Athletics Interests. A "representative of the institution's athletics interests" is an individual (TJ Gassnola), independent agency, corporate entity (e.g., apparel (Adidas) or equipment manufacturer) or other organization who is known (or who should have been known) by a member of the institution's executive or athletics administration to: (Revised: 2/16/00, 4/25/18)

(a) Have participated in or to be a member of an agency or organization promoting the institution's intercollegiate athletics program; (TJ Gassnola was an Adidas employing and Adidas has definitely promoted Kansas Athletics)

(b) Have made financial contributions to the athletics department or to an athletics booster organization of that institution; (How many millions of dollars has Adidas paid KU over the past 15 years?)

(c) Be assisting or to have been requested (by the athletics department staff) to assist in the recruitment of prospective studentathletes; (See text messages between Gassnola and Self/Townsend)

(d) Be assisting or to have assisted in providing benefits to enrolled student-athletes or their family members; or (See TJ Gassnola's testimony in the Adidas trial)

(e) Have been involved otherwise in promoting the institution's athletics program. (See the Adidas contract and TJ Gassnola's testimony)

So by letter of the bylaw, Adidas and TJ Gassnola fit every claim the NCAA is making. KU, and I'm sure NC State and Louisville as well are going to arguing that the NCAA has never previously applied this bylaw in that manner before and has been well aware of what people like TJ Gassnola have done for year's in regards to connecting coaches and players and that every head coach has their own versions of Gassnola they're in contact with a very regular basis (see Mike Brey comments in an Athletic article on the implications of this accusations being upheld by the IARP). These cases are going to come down to whether the IARP rules on the letter of the bylaw or past application of the bylaw. Self interprets this bylaw differently than the NCAA is because of past precedents of this bylaw. That's where Self's stance comes from, not from a place of complete innocence and denial of events that have happened.

Also, the IARP is not affiliated with the NCAA so just stop with that because it's flat out false. Why would any school agree to let the IARP decide their fate if the IARP was directly affiliated with the NCAA and give up their right to appeal a decision when going the COI route still allows for an appeal?

This is not a simple case and any decisions coming from our case, the NC State case (which should be decided before ours), and eventually the Louisville case, most likely, could have major ramifications on grassroots level basketball, specifically the AAU circuits. A ruling in the NCAA's favor could instantly shut down AAU teams sponsored by Nike, Adidas, and Under Armour as playing on those teams could make a player ineligible to compete in NCAA competition due to other recruiting bylaws.

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in What we all knew was happening at Duke with Zion is finally hitting the fan.:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in What we all knew was happening at Duke with Zion is finally hitting the fan.:

@drgnslayr said in What we all knew was happening at Duke with Zion is finally hitting the fan.:

@Texas-Hawk-10

I'm not sure it matters what KU "acknowledged" because even KU can't prove payments were made. At a certain point, we just said "tell us what you want us to say and we will say it." That's the victim role. But yes... if the proof is there then we played players that were ineligible. I think that substantiates forfeiting games. That doesn't mean the university gets punished with loss of scholarships or post season bans or coaching penalties. Then they need to prove conspiracy.

I suggest the NCAA treat Duke similar as Kansas or it will become part of Kansas and Self's federal case.

You really need to re-read what I wrote because your comprehension of that post is way off. KU has acknowledged three players received money from Adidas. Two of those players played regular and post season games for KU so forfeiture of those games seems very likely regardless of anything else coming out of this case.

Where your comprehension failed you was in the next part of my post where I very clearly stated any other punishments beyond that likely hinges on the IARP ruling. If the IARP rules in the NCAA's favor, Kansas Basketball is going to be in deep shit for a long time. A ruling in the NCAA's favor is where the suspensions, show-causes, post-season bans, scholarship reductions, and very long probation period comes into play.

KU is going to be the second program to go through this new process to completion that involves a group with better connections and access to investigate matters than the NCAA has and allow them to determine KU's fate. KU's case is dependent on the FBI's investigation that determined KU was defrauded by Gassnola and Adidas and weren't aware of those payments being made. The NCAA has decided to take a black and white interpretation on bylaw 13.02.15 and its subsections to go after KU and rule Adidas and TJ Gassnola as boosters which is the NCAA's justification for their claims against KU.

We have no idea how the IARP is going to interpret the NCAA's application of their bylaws. And because we have no idea how the IARP is going to rule, KU could end up getting punished with anything from vacating the games Diallo played in, the games pre-suspension Silvio played in to just short of a death penalty and anything in between.

We're not gonna get the death penalty

Didn't say KU would get a death penalty did I?

@drgnslayr said in What we all knew was happening at Duke with Zion is finally hitting the fan.:

@Texas-Hawk-10

I'm not sure it matters what KU "acknowledged" because even KU can't prove payments were made. At a certain point, we just said "tell us what you want us to say and we will say it." That's the victim role. But yes... if the proof is there then we played players that were ineligible. I think that substantiates forfeiting games. That doesn't mean the university gets punished with loss of scholarships or post season bans or coaching penalties. Then they need to prove conspiracy.

I suggest the NCAA treat Duke similar as Kansas or it will become part of Kansas and Self's federal case.

You really need to re-read what I wrote because your comprehension of that post is way off. KU has acknowledged three players received money from Adidas. Two of those players played regular and post season games for KU so forfeiture of those games seems very likely regardless of anything else coming out of this case.

Where your comprehension failed you was in the next part of my post where I very clearly stated any other punishments beyond that likely hinges on the IARP ruling. If the IARP rules in the NCAA's favor, Kansas Basketball is going to be in deep shit for a long time. A ruling in the NCAA's favor is where the suspensions, show-causes, post-season bans, scholarship reductions, and very long probation period comes into play.

KU is going to be the second program to go through this new process to completion that involves a group with better connections and access to investigate matters than the NCAA has and allow them to determine KU's fate. KU's case is dependent on the FBI's investigation that determined KU was defrauded by Gassnola and Adidas and weren't aware of those payments being made. The NCAA has decided to take a black and white interpretation on bylaw 13.02.15 and its subsections to go after KU and rule Adidas and TJ Gassnola as boosters which is the NCAA's justification for their claims against KU.

We have no idea how the IARP is going to interpret the NCAA's application of their bylaws. And because we have no idea how the IARP is going to rule, KU could end up getting punished with anything from vacating the games Diallo played in, the games pre-suspension Silvio played in to just short of a death penalty and anything in between.

@RockkChalkk said in What we all knew was happening at Duke with Zion is finally hitting the fan.:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in What we all knew was happening at Duke with Zion is finally hitting the fan.:

@drgnslayr said in What we all knew was happening at Duke with Zion is finally hitting the fan.:

@Texas-Hawk-10

KU played no part in those payments and were found to be victims in that process. What is alleged at Duke is Duke participated in payment to Zion's family.

Doesn't matter if KU knew or not. Players received impermissible benefits and then played games for KU which means KU played ineligible players. KU has acknowledged this and are not arguing against that so they will get punishments for that. What IARP decision will affect is anything beyond what I previously said in regards to punishment. If the IARP upholds the NCAA's case against KU, then all of those level 1 violations get upheld which brings coaching suspensions, show-cause bans, and postseason bans into play as well. Those penalties aren't in play for what KU has acknowledged has happened.

What players are you referring to exactly? The only player i'm aware of is Silvio which was through his "handler", and he got his largest impermissible benefit from Under Armor to go to Maryland. He would never have gotten anything from Adidas if it wasn't for UA/MD giving his handler money to begin with. All of which KU elected to sit out Silvio over a year for already.

There were three players identified by the NCAA as having received impermissible benefits in their allegations against KU. Silvio was one player, Billy Preston was another player (KU probably doesn't get much, if any, punishment for Preston since he never played a regular season game for KU), and the third player had most of the information redacted in the released version, but a name in that section led most people to believe the third player to be Cheick Diallo.

It does not matter where the money comes from, if player or representative of the player received impermissible benefits, it affects the player's eligibility regardless of where that player is playing at. Josh Selby was suspended for about the first 1/3 (9 games) of the season for violations that Bruce Pearl committed while Selby was still committed to Tennessee.

@drgnslayr said in What we all knew was happening at Duke with Zion is finally hitting the fan.:

@Texas-Hawk-10

KU played no part in those payments and were found to be victims in that process. What is alleged at Duke is Duke participated in payment to Zion's family.

Doesn't matter if KU knew or not. Players received impermissible benefits and then played games for KU which means KU played ineligible players. KU has acknowledged this and are not arguing against that so they will get punishments for that. What IARP decision will affect is anything beyond what I previously said in regards to punishment. If the IARP upholds the NCAA's case against KU, then all of those level 1 violations get upheld which brings coaching suspensions, show-cause bans, and postseason bans into play as well. Those penalties aren't in play for what KU has acknowledged has happened.

@drgnslayr said in What we all knew was happening at Duke with Zion is finally hitting the fan.:

I think the prosecution of Kansas could end up being the added pressure for the NCAA to pursue a Duke prosecution. Imagine if the NCAA nails us and turns right around and let's Duke off the hook? Kansas and Self have already shown they are not going to back down to the NCAA and will likely pursue a federal court remedy.

There is another way to think about this. That the Duke case will save KU because the NCAA won't want to punish Duke, so they have to let KU off the hook, too. I see this as a probable outcome. Lots of threats right now and in the end the NCAA makes some kind of verbal slap on the hands for both programs and life goes on.

KU has acknowledged money changed hands from Adidas to multiple players to influence them to KU and isn't challenging that part of the allegations. Probation, loss of scholarships, and vacated wins (including the 2018 FF) are probably in KU's future regardless of how the IARP rules on the status of KU's relationship with Adidas.

@Marco said in Still haven't been able to gt anyone to Answer my question.:

@Texas-Hawk-10 There would really be no way that they could, unless they also changed the scholarship numbers.

The NCAA granted an exemption for scholarships and roster sizes because of the cancellation.

Keegan created an extremely toxic atmosphere around the coverage of Kansas Athletics and was a mediocre writer at best. The personal attacks on Beaty should've gotten him fired.

Makur Maker committed to Howard today. I'm curious if some of the other top recruits that have discussed going to an HBCU follow Maker's lead.

@jayballer73 said in Still haven't been able to gt anyone to Answer my question.:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Still haven't been able to gt anyone to Answer my question.:

@jayballer73 said in Still haven't been able to gt anyone to Answer my question.:

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Still haven't been able to gt anyone to Answer my question.:

@jayballer73 we had fall sports

ya but they got cut short

Fall sports didn't get cut short. College Football is last fall sport to finish and that's in January. A few winter sports didn't finish their NCAA tournaments, but over 90% of winter sports athletes had completed their seasons so they weren't granted any extra eligibility.

Technicality - - Fall sports winter sport ok let me put in simpler terms Basketball got cut short - -doesn't matter whether if it was 1 - - 2 - -3 - -4 - - games it got cut short - -if you can't complete the season then they need to be given that year

The majority of basketball programs had already completed their season. It was only a very small % of games that were lost. There's about 350 teams so let's say an average of 30 games per team. That's about 10,500 total games. Including the handful of conference tournaments left along with post season tournament games, we're talking somewhere around 150 total games lost. That's less than 1.5% of total games lost. The NCAA isn't going to grant an extra year of eligibility for missing that small of a % of games.

@Kcmatt7 said in SEC commissioner urges NIL uniformity in meeting with U.S. Senate committee:

I’ll be shocked if we have college sports this year.

Too much money at stake to cancel.

@jayballer73 said in Still haven't been able to gt anyone to Answer my question.:

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Still haven't been able to gt anyone to Answer my question.:

@jayballer73 we had fall sports

ya but they got cut short

Fall sports didn't get cut short. College Football is last fall sport to finish and that's in January. A few winter sports didn't finish their NCAA tournaments, but over 90% of winter sports athletes had completed their seasons so they weren't granted any extra eligibility.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@jayballer73

~~Texas~~ Nike pays well.

Texas doesn't give two 💩 about basketball.

KSU's president has announced that KSU cannot legally expell the student for his George Floyd comments which I think most here knew that was the case. They are creating some new diversity programs to appease the student athletes since expulsion would be illegal in this case.

@approxinfinity said in NOA response from KU discussion:

@BShark This is how the NCAA pretends its an impartial decision?

The IARP is not operated by the NCAA. If they show favoritism towards the NCAA in their rulings, schools won't accept their cases going that route which negates the purpose of its creation.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Jesus Christ, can we please push the reset button on 2020?:

@drgnslayr https://www.ksn.com/news/sedgwick-county-law-enforcement-not-planning-to-crack-down-on-people-not-following-governors-order-not-wearing-masks/ ↗

Hopefully the businesses will at least require them.

This was an issue here in Houston the first time we had our "mandatory" mask order. Our county judge threatened a $1,000 fine for not wearing one in public and the police chief told her they would not enforce the ban. The reasoning is because of the George Floyd incident. Public trust in police is pretty low right now and trying to enforce a mask rule would likely lead to a lot of unnecessary confrontations between citizens and LEO trying to enforce said mask rule.

At least that was the logic here in Houston back in April.

@Marco said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:

@jayballer73 No doubt. Players like him and Dick, major in-state talents, we should make every effort to sign. We are starting to concentrate on and seal off the state (because we really had no choice), and need to start signing the bigtimers. And, by the way, the high school basketball talent in Wichita and KC is starting to really impress me.

The problem for KU locking down the state is the two biggest sources players are Sunrise and MoKan are both Nike backed teams. KU will never land the elite players from either MoKan or Sunrise as long as each are Nike backed and KU is Adidas.

@approxinfinity said in KSU Student is Racist:

I support your desire to break free of voting for either of the major parties. For us to be able to do so effectively I have a few considerations:
- who is the other guy, the one you're voting for? This is critical. He has to be someone good or represent a platform that is good. Can't just be a Mickey Mouse write in. We need to establish new alternates that represent a better way forward, or else we get no where.
- Is that person better than both of the major candidates? Also critical. These votes must do more good than harm.
- Who are the alternative candidates for other levels of government? I believe to make sustainable change we need to find a way to get more independents or third party candidates into local positions and at every level. Our ultimate endgoal should be the House and Senate, but build up to that . We also need to make info about the candidates easily accessible to all that overcome major party bias.
- What are the laws preventing third party and independent candidates from having a chance and how can we make our voices heard to change them?

The Libertarian candidate this year is Jo Jorgensen. Libertarians are further right economically than Republicans and further left socially than Democrats.

The issue for any politician not affiliated with the Dems or Reps is money. It costs a lot of money to run for office and most third party candidates don't have the funds to run as a third party candidate. Most people who would consider themselves Libertarians that run for office will usually run as Republicans because that's the only way to get enough funding to have any chance.

The two biggest things that could happen in American politics to change everything for the better would be to restrict the spending and influence of special interest lobbyist groups and to enact term limits on Congress.

Those lobbyist groups are what keep third party candidates from having a real chance to be elected because of they money they can pour into campaigns. When people talk about how can politicians get so rich when the actual position doesn't pay that much comparatively speaking when looking at some of these Congressmen's net worths, it's because of special interest groups.

The problem is there isn't ever going to be enough support within Congress to enact term limits on themselves or to restrict special interest groups influence in politics. The Supreme Court is the barrier to Congressional term limits since the ruled in 1994 rules states can't impose term limits on its federal representatives so you'd have to get the Supreme Court to overturn that ruling to prevent them from potentially declaring anything to do with Congressional term limits unconstitutional.

@mayjay said in KSU Student is Racist:

@Crimsonorblue22 Defending the post, his character, or his right to say it?

Looking at social media, yes.

@approxinfinity Sugar coating racism and calling something other than what it is doesn't help in making real sustainable change going forward.

This is a lesson I have to teach my students every year about the 1st Amendment and how it works. Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from the consequences of using that right. Legally, KSU doesn't have a leg to stand on in regards to actions like kicking him out of school without possible repercussions of a discrimination lawsuit because all he did was express his opinion.

The consequences of this kid expressing this opinion and running a group like America First are probably going to be a much more limited job prospects because most companies aren't going to want someone who publicly expresses beliefs like his working for them. He's so likely going to have to deactivate his Twitter and other social media accounts because of the amount of hate messages he's receiving and will continue to receive.

@approxinfinity said in KSU Student is Racist:

@mayjay maybe, maybe not.

@Texas-Hawk-10 both of you are assuming to know the kid's mindset. The stated value of that organization that you listed are not specifically racist. EDIT: see @ajvan 's response below. Said more clearly to this point.

What's wrong with just calling someone an a-hole instead of a racist?

I think throwing around the racist moniker is divisive in ways you aren't feeling fully atm. I completely understand why people are upset rn.

If the kid was just an asshole, I'd call him an asshole. If you didn't grow up with people belonging to groups like this and seeing how they talk, what their hearts are, it'd very easy to dismiss those stated values as innocent instead of its implicit racism.

Let me break this down for you since you want to be so dismissive and enabling of racism in this country.

Compare America First's core values to the core values of Westboro Baptist, and you won't find much difference.

You and @ajvan are either deliberately ignoring the historical connotations of these phrases and the implicitly racist and prejudiced nature of these specific phrases or ignorant to their connotations. This is exactly why groups like America First state their beliefs the way they do. They sound perfectly innocent until you dig a little deeper and realize strong borders is code for discrimination against Hispanics, traditional families is code for discriminating against the LGBT community, and Christian values is code for segregation because Sunday mornings is the most segregated time in America.

If you doubt my explanations, I would highly recommend you take at least a couple of hours and do some real research on these matters.