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@DoubleDD tracked down the poorly titled NYT Op Ed piece. The piece did not say it was safe to travel to China.

Valid arguments may exist for shutting down the world to travelers originating in China — and shutting down China to the world — as a reasonable public health response. But the World Health Organization explicitly did not advise that any restriction of trade or travel was necessary when it declared a Public Health Emergency of International Concern last week, and it still doesn’t. Instead, it has called for exit screening in international airports and domestic hubs in China.

The disease was already here and the travel ban was touted as THE correct action, but it came months too late and allowed travel to the UK, a country whose containment was shit.

Most importantly, the disease was already here and was not contained, while Trump misrepresented all the details and failed to issue any guidance.

Timing matters. Every detail of this administrations response has been late and botched. To try to slap a prize on their travel ban after the fact is a joke.

Trump is the President of the United States. Not some misinformed dude watching news in his house. To explain away his ineptitude as not having the facts at the time is not acceptable.

Man. Does this guy even English? :)

@BShark said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:

I can't even fathom using a public bathroom right now.

:hundred_points:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexandrasternlicht/2020/04/02/why-you-should-flush-with-the-lid-down-virologist-warns-of-fecal-oral-transmission-of-covid-19/ ↗

Awesome. Toilet plume can remain suspended a meter in the air for hours? Too bad no public toilets have lids even if people wanted to put them down.

@BShark I wonder to what extent we can be more prepared to pivot and produce ventillators for future pandemic preparedness. So we wouldnt need a huge stockpile so much as a larger stockpile as well as companies be able to switch production to ventillators quickly. We could make medical supply producers have the capacity to switch over and have a coordinated plan for production, distribution, and assembly of components all locally.

@jayballer73 I don't have a problem with taking something from China. The donation came from Jack Ma and the owner of the Nets. Why would we not accept a private donation of ventillators? Good on them to make it happen.

The problem is that we even NEEDED someone to donate them. We weren't prepared. We should not be dependant internationally for ventillators.

Watching the 2003 loss. I'm in the first half . I can't believe we got back in the game after this first half.

Watching the 1988 championship game for the first time a couple observations...

First half Manning was not great. I was surprised. Many turnovers. Second half was much better.

The rest of the team was conversely much better than I expected.

Wow these guys got out and ran all game. Also, full court pressure all game. Love it. However, this contributed heavily to the turnovers. Forced passes and shots.

Oklahoma was loaded! Harvey Grant, Stacey King, Mookie Blaylock? Crazy!

Also, our guys scrapped like hell.

@jayballer73 even if you can get them to pull it I think it's really worth it if they bring it out to your car. The biggest threat is entering the store and inhaling droplets in the air. Just keep your distance from the person bringing it out and I would open the trunk for them so they only touch the bags. I highly recommend finding an option where you can avoid entering the store. Then it's just a matter of disinfecting the food when you get home, which would still be critical. Another option is to set aside anything non perishable for a time (guidelines say 3 days on plastic. I set aside everything a week). Then you just need to disinfect perishables. Mitigating concerns about the shopper touching stuff.

Sorry if my advice here is heavy handed or preachy. Trying to help and maybe also I'm enumerating my steps to just talk about it even if we've already talked about it so much

Here are the CDC instructions for making a mask. The tshirt method requires no sewing. I believe you want tightknit cotton fabric, like a t-shirt.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/diy-cloth-face-coverings.html ↗

@jayballer73 hey I am curious does the Walmart in topeka deliver to your house? Topeka is 66617? Its worth a shot?

https://grocery.walmart.com/?postalCode=66617 ↗

@ajvan I got some sanitizer by waiting for cvs to open on a day I knew their trucks were delivering but that was back several weeks and the only reason I got some was because I stood at the door as the second person and chatted up the first, so she didn't take all the few bottles that were there.

Inother news I have heard you can easily make your own though I have not looked, from rubbing alcohol and aloe. Those may be more readily available still.

I got you. Its a slippery slope and a potential attack vector on free speech.

@mayjay not sure how his lawyers could use Times vs Sullivan, unless they are saying they are an extension of Trump? (Or he an extension of them? :face_with_tears_of_joy: was that judge humor you dropped on me?)

@mayjay found this interesting. Wondering how far something like this could go:

https://timesofsandiego.com/business/2020/04/02/washington-state-group-is-1st-to-sue-fox-news-for-calling-coronavirus-a-hoax/ ↗

https://www.forbes.com/sites/noahkirsch/2020/04/02/media-experts-assail-fox-news-for-coronavirus-misinformation/ ↗

On that day, Hannity said, “They’re scaring the living hell out of people and I see it as, like, ‘Oh, let’s bludgeon Trump again with this new hoax.'”

https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/netflix-flat-earth-documentary-behind-the-curve-conspiracy-theorists ↗

Unfortunately with any press, good or bad, misinformation gains more followers.

Behind the Curve, a documentary about the Flat Earth movement, is available on Netflix. I watched it tonight and found it to be an excellent analysis of conspiracy theories. I found the interviews to be very thoughtfully done.

I'm very interested to discuss this film about a group I think we can all agree are incorrect.

@Kubie thanks for the insights. As much as I'm lucky to be able to stay home and wfh in isolation with the family, I feel out of touch and value these types of observations of how it is out there.

@kjayhawks good work man. I'm curious what the coverage of delivery groceries look like for others. I'm lucky to be in an area that delivers but I am not sure if the Food Lion near my parents will deliver (ours does). I'm going to look tonight. They live out in the mountains and are around 15 minutes from the nearest Food Lion.

Delivery obviously eliminates so many variables
The government should subsidize the grocery stores to deliver to everyone.

@kjayhawks part of the problem there is actually the decline in news coverage. With less reporters working stories, there's less coverage.

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@BShark I have a couple old n95 paint masks. Anyway, we should all be making DIY masks if we don't have one. Nobody should go to the store without one

@DoubleDD said in Is this website a joke?:

@FarmerJayhawk wasn’t Obama just a kid when he ate dog meat not sure? Lack of research. Sorry to night @approxinfinity is right middle aged man drinking some beers.

Cheers! :beer_mug:

https://www.nbc12.com/2020/04/02/expert-predicts-richmond-area-hospitals-fill-up-within-weeks-peak-cases-not-expected-until-late-may/ ↗

“What we do know is that when somebody is coughing or sneezing those respiratory droplets can stay in the air for up to three hours, said Avula. “I do think it’s highly likely that both individuals going to the grocery store and employees of grocery stores will have this disease at some point.”

Avula says COVID-19 can stay in the air for hours which means social distancing is more important than ever especially while we people go shopping for essential items. He advises that people who need to go out, avoid shopping during peak hours."

We have hit critical mass of cases where it appears it's not a matter of if but rather when you will get the virus if you keep going to stores without a mask.

@DoubleDD actually i would love to hear stories. Stories would be way more interesting and productive than us discussing ideology I think.

@DoubleDD said in Is this website a joke?:

You called me a middle-age alcohol and you don’t even know me? If this is your politics are your view of the future yeah count me out

I assume you like to drink at night because that would be logical. I never said that you're middle aged. I didn't want to be too presumptuous.

Do you know alcohol sales went up 55% in the US the third week of March?

There are many different views on this site. As far as "opposing views" well, I guess thats you, because you don't want a conversation, you want a fight.

@DoubleDD Well ok.

You're frequently combative and insulting. You ignore posts that don't fit your narrative. You're civil when it appears you're trying to prove how civil you are. Most people have been far more patient with you than I have. You know, the people you call Democrats who have all stated that they are Republicans or Libertarians. But they being Democrats fits your narrative, so Democrats they are, right?

@kjayhawks I think there is a dangerous fallacy of "both sides are equally bad" being bandied about a lot. Both parties have their problems, but in terms of overall corruption of the elected officials for each party, I don't think it's close right now. You may be right that the Democratic elected officials are the bigger hypocrites, in that they are operating with the old playbook of over-promise and under-deliver (in part because they are getting stonewalled on every single thing by a Republican majority), whereas Republican elected officials are doing whatever they want, then lying as to what is actually happening, and convincing a hypnotized base that the sky is purple and the sea is red.

As for this:

I just laugh and laugh at their rhetoric “Rich old White people are bad!!, They are causing all these problems!!”. Not only is that racist and would be called it if it were any other race. But the last two elections they’ve hammered this all while telling us to vote for their old rich white people.

Clearly, there are enough people that voted in the Democratic primaries for those "rich old white people" that they don't think they are bad. I think Biden and his wife are worth around $9 million and Bernie is worth around $2 million. I don't consider that extreme generational wealth. That is not $3.1 billion (Trump), and it's not $58 billion (Bloomberg). Those numbers are a much much bigger abstraction from reality.

They need average working men and women in government. They actually have done budgeting successfully and have an idea of what Americans need.

I agree that we need people grounded in reality. But I think there is something to be said for politics as a trade and having the skills necessary to be a politician. They also have to be good with people. I don't know how you get the right people in office, but I'd love to see it happen.

@kjayhawks well... You have a point. I don't know if most politicians are deeply corrupt so much as they are out of touch with what paycheck to paycheck (or near paycheck to paycheck) life is like for the vast majority of Americans. I mean Bernie campaigns on working for the little people. I think he's aware of the problems and genuinely wants to help. He just doesn't have to live in poverty himself. I don't think that makes him a hypocrite. But it may mean that if his ideas wreak havoc ultimately it's not him feeling the burn (pun intended).

Also, it's a little unrealistic to assume that being the president won't profit a person financially. I'd guess that all of these people, if they were competent presidents, could have been doing other things making as much money.

I do think its important that a sitting elected official doesn't violate the emoluments clause while in office. After that, I'm not as hardnosed.

@kjayhawk Teddy Roosevelt's net worth is 4th highest of all presidents. :man_shrugging: Not an exact science. I'm living under the [assumption/delusion] that Thomas Jefferson was not corrupt.

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I heard CDC revised their estimates on asymptomatic transmission to be between 25% and 35% of transmissions. Trying to find a link.

@justanotherfan thanks, you too.

@bmensch1 nice! That's a great idea. Ive never watched the 88 title game. Will do.

@Texas-Hawk-10 ha i forgot about that. good call.

@nuleafjhawk Well, I'm assuming @DoubleDD likes to drink, find alt-right media enforcing his bias, and then post it on here at 2am, 3am and 4am by himself. So I give him the benefit of the doubt when he's nonsensical and combative. It's his way of reaching out.

I'm just speaking from experience in a past life of mine. I drank all night and talked to people online all night for a stretch earlier in my life.

Maybe I've got it all wrong. Tell me to F right off if you want, and I can take it. Everyone is different. Just being honest with my assumption and experience.

Discussion matters always.

Title had my head thinking Quin Snyder... Bill Self... connection?

Would I want someone who doesnt act his age (77) like Biden, or have bullshit baggage? Of course. Is Biden better than Trump? Of course.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/03/trumps-lies-about-coronavirus/608647/ ↗

I watched your video. It's what I assumed. Biden had his "senior moments" on the campaign circuit and when debating 9 other candidates in a free-for-all. He also kicked Bernie's ass in a 1-on-1 debate, or at the least, gave very compelling evidence that the claims of his mental demise are highly overstated. Don't believe the hype.

I don't expect Biden to be the kind of President that wanders the country searching for love at giant rallies. He isn't good at this, and it doesn't matter. I expect him to focus on priorities, take his duties to his country to be his only job, and delegate effectively.

@BShark does anyone have a link to a good raef highlight video at Kansas? My wife swears he was a badass with mad hops before injuries slowed him down.

@ajvan I don't remember LaFrentz. that was before I dated my wife.i do remember Jeff "Block Party, Stink Face" Withey.

@HighEliteMajor I hoped Moss would show up. I thought this was the one. Villanova is going to be a harder matchup for him if he's guarding like he did today. Braun is the hero we need! Ice cold. Do you guys still think we get four years of him?

I'd love to see our d dictate the way the next one is played. This is the game I most wanted to see Doke in! If he can defend the arc against Nova like he has done all year, we can feed the big fella on the other end.

Also, I'm flat out shocked that Virginia laid an egg like they did against Dayton. Their defense is way better than that. Disappointing. But they didn't have the firepower on the offensive side to go all the way.

@Traces-of-Texas nice find!

@HighEliteMajor sorry I haven't taken the time to properly respond. I'm just relieved we came to play!

I like that.

Also I enjoyed the Wiggins vs Embiid matchup and the Morris vs Morris matchup. Both of these were brutal "mid-major like" thinning of the herd hitjobs reminiscent of a real NCAA bracket

@wissox nice work! I enjoyed reading up about Don Lonborg. HOF coach!

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/27/nyregion/coronavirus-new-york-update.html ↗

Article about how Cuomo has a very different understanding of reality than Trump in terms of New Yorks need for ventillators.

@FarmerJayhawk the Chinese just have one region locked down right ? It seems we will have a pretty clear awareness soon if there is community spread because the other regions would blow up.

I'm still under the assumption it's contained.

@DoubleDD you don't have kids I guess. There's more to life than individual happiness. If we can agree on that, then in all likelihood freedom will return for future generations even if freedoms are compromised in the present. I didnt follow the conversation before the last post. I'm just responding to yours.

@DoubleDD He's been solid, I agree.

I'm assuming if he were to run for President, the Fox News hit-job would smear him to the point you'd be getting a negative impression. So if you like the guy now, by hearing directly from him, if he does have a future in higher office, don't forget to hear it straight from his mouth then as well :)