Bragg's block is probably the highlight of the night.
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Was hoping that Svi would look a bit more refined in his sophomore year in the system. He looks pretty 1-dimensional right now.
@DanR said:
If you can smack it off the backboard with both hands, then maybe you’re close enough to dunk it, 6-10 guy
YES. sigh.
Ugly D... our offense sputtering. Svi is maybe 20% from 3. (gotta find something to be critical about during a 20 pt lead)
NCAA is taking all the fun away from KU Fans who want to make signs for games:
Cheick Please!
We've got the best Ukranian and the best Cheick!
Doug, Cheick your shorts! (this one for Gottlieb)
and of course, "ROCK CHEICK!"
59 in a half is a good sign-- even if it's against Washburn.
I like the fact that HCBS let the team open it up from the 3.
Second half could be very different. I would not underestimate Alford or UCLA. Too much tradition and pride. This is an opportunity for KU to prove they can put their foot on the throat of an opponent.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said:
I think Self should play Diallo
Yep. My thoughts as well.
At this point, it seems like we have more to gain than what we have to lose (one game forfeiture).
@Crimsonorblue22 Perhaps. It's a risk. But it's also a statement.
Maybe not the same kind of injustice as these, but an act that requires some courage, nonetheless.
That said, I suppose Self and Zenger are already escalating to the court of public opinion with this message to the media, so perhaps they are embarking on their own journey of defiance.
PS: While searching the web-- I found this interesting article: The act of defiance that transformed college basketball ↗
FWIW, I can't find a way to delete the Korean spam messages.
Probably a stupid question, but what prevents KU from putting Diallo on the list of players? Does the scorers table control this? If Self put him into the game, can the officials make him leave the game?
Just curious as to how the NCAA really governs (and enforces) the game.
@nuleafjhawk said:
The thing that sticks out to ME about those stats are that Roy’s teams had two “bad” losses; UTEP in '92 and Rhode Island in '98. “Bad” meaning upsets. All tournament losses are bad…
After all these years, I still consider the Arizona loss a bad loss... And I would say the Syracuse loss was a bad loss. Both opponents ended up being National Champs, but I think KU was ranked #1 and the favorite...
If we don't count teams like that, consider Virginia (in Kemper), and Illinois. UTEP and Rhode Island were 'bad' losses by a similar definition.
So, Roy had at least 4 bad losses -- maybe 5 or 6.. Bill is somewhere in the same territory (although the first-round losses against Bucknell and Bradley are unparalleled). I think Roy had a bit better track record in the tourney, despite no Natl Champion, but Self isn't that far off.
My takeaway: the difference between the top 32 and the final 4 is narrower than most people believe. If you want to look at the recent performance, I think it's fair to criticize. However a FF run with this year's senior-laden team would probably placate some critics... and another National Championship would erase a lot of angst.
I think these three factors have played a large role in our recent history: 1) we have had more one-and-dones, 2) the assistant coaching staff has had high turnover and 3) the game has evolved (based on changes in the rules and emphasis by the officials).
And lest we forget: Both are hall of fame coaches. In 25+ years of coaching combined, two hall-of-fame coaches brought one Natl Title to Lawrence. We'd like to have more, but it's more than the rest of the big 12 combined in almost 70 years (last was Oklahoma State in 1946.)
@DoubleDD Not to mention Frankamp
Thanks @DanR. I didn't take the time to check out the language, but I should have recognized that it was Korean. If it was a legitimate user whose computer was hacked, I apologize.. but I suspect it was a bot.
Looked like that user was responsible for the chinese spam. Not sure whether it was intentional or not, but i felt I had to put a lid on it.
Probably a combination of the multiple theories is true-- 1) NCAA is exacting a bit of "frontier" justice for the Alexander issue last year, and 2) someone with a beef and leverage is discouraging the NCAA from moving on this... and the shoe-company-conspiracy is sounding less and less like a theory from Mulder from X-files.
Of course, it's possible the NCAA is simply inept. But I think that's the least likely theory.
@KUinLA said:
My suggestion for the coaching staff is to look at the two following images with an open mind:
Trying to overcome your weaknesses is a waste of time, according to Marcus Buckingham and Donald O. Clifton, Ph.D., of the Gallup Organization, and authors of the book NOW, DISCOVER YOUR STRENGTHS (Free Press, 2001).
"Casting a critical eye on our weaknesses . . . will only help us prevent failure. It will not help us reach excellence," they write in their thought-provoking book, the follow-up to the outstanding and best-selling Gallup work, FIRST, BREAK ALL THE RULES (Simon & Schuster, 1999).
Most organizations fail to achieve excellence, the authors contend, because they also fall into the "overcome your weaknesses" trap. Companies do a poor job of tapping the potential already present on their payroll because they try to make employees into something they're not-at the expense of exploiting individuals' innate talents.
Ned has a world series :ring: :-) Not to mention two AL :flags:
One is a popularity contest and subjective.
The other is indisputable and empirical.
Let's keep it civil. It's a frustrating loss. This team will either learn from this and stomp on the throat when they are up by 13... or we're going to have a rollercoaster season.
I agree with the mysterious absence of Mickelson. At one point late in the game, I asked my TV why wouldn't Coach put Hunter in there... There was no answer.
On a positive note: good night for Perry. (pyrrhic victory)
It was frustrating for sure. It seemed like Izzo's strategy to use his bench early and often ultimately paid off.
Selden was AWOL for most of the game. Greene didn't attempt a 3 (of course it's hard from the bench.)
...and the ill-fated layups from our fast breaks left me longing for the way Roy's teams ran the break...
Valentine gets credit, but we shall see if he's legitimately that amazing throughout the season, or if we simply created and then fed the monster.
Finally -- we have now lost the opening jump for both of our games. (Remember the article by @Jesse-Newell ?)
Is it possible that a highly recruited athlete who is already projected to make the lottery-- but who is required to stay out of the draft one year and serve his time at a school -- might decide that the best way to spend time is on the bench and not on the floor where there's 1) a risk of injury and 2) a risk of losing value?
Is it possible that there's very little motivation for some recruits to be eligible? The best scenario is sit with a good team and practice.. get a free year of college... and enjoy the college experience while serving the mandatory 1 year between HS and NBA.
Go Royals! Win 2 as soon as possible! If they win the Series, the party will ensue, no matter where they clinch!
Aaron Miles-- One of my favorites who has a great legacy in Jayhawk history... Perhaps another chapter still to be written....
Go Royals!
I think i don't understand how a logo on jerseys is worth $94 million.
$94 million could be put to a few other uses that might be a bit more impactful to the human race than this.
(I don't fault Wisconsin for this.. I just think the whole athletic wear sponsorship thing is insane.)
This article and map suggests that your LSU fan needs to consider how they stack up against Oregon, Texas, Nebraska, Florida, Wisconsin and even NotreDame in terms of breadth of a fanbase.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/03/upshot/ncaa-football-fan-map.html?_r=0 ↗ ↗
I'm excited for the season! The team has three key components for a FF run:
Experience: Senior leadership like Perry is rare, but rarer still is the opportunity to learn the system and establish team chemistry, as in S. Korea at the WUG.
Talent: And not just athleticism, Selden, Diallo, Svi, etc... but talent with depth.
Something to prove: Like, can we get past the second round? That loss to WSU should sting until April... especially for Mr Ellis.
Experience, Talent and Something to Prove: That's a good combination.
@RoKChalk said:
If I was Utah Jazz, I'd be concerned about the volume of food he would have to consume to get the necessary nutrients for that 7ft frame. Hard to believe that a vegan diet could suffice, but I'm no nutritionist or dietitian.
@ParisHawk said:
@Jesse-Newell What is WUG ball? Selden 3, Hunter over Traylor and Lucas, fast offense, freedom to take the 3 right away if it’s there. Opportunism.
Yes.. and in my opinion, Selden at 3 was second to the fast offense which was catalyzed by 1) the shorter shot clock, 2) the rule to reset the clock to 15 seconds after rebounds and 3) the limits on timeouts which kept the game going. (No TV timeouts, etc.)
The NCAA games will have a slightly shorter clock, but that's about it. I'm really curious what Coach Self learned from the WUG that he thinks he can apply to the game this year.
I was out of the loop for a few days.. just saw this news and it's fantastic! Aaron is perfect for the program - a bridge between Williams' system and Self's!
He will set a great tone and help the team have an attitude that will get them through adversity -- especially the freshmen, but I think even Perry can learn from him. He's a winner and should be a solid role model for every player.
Could have used him last year for sure.
Getting excited for some Basketball!! And it's only August!
I like the Crimson and Blue colors in that picture... :-) That's the view of Hawaii though Jayhawk glasses.
I still believe they can win some games and surprise some people. And I still believe they can build the program back to a national contender. We won the Orange Bowl (it wasn't a dream, really, we did!) and were a top 5 team just 7 years ago.
I will believe this because I am a KU fan for life... and because it is mid-August.
Please don't remind me of this post in October.
Wow. Christian's student experience sounds so familiar. His experiences as an athlete did not give him a different experience than most students.. rather it sounds like it simply exposed him to an intensified version of Kansas and the life-long fondness so familiar to alumni.
Cool to see that, for both fans and players, KU (and Lawrence) is a shared experience and a common experience.
@Lulufulu I think Boeheim is on his way out as well (a bit less ceremoniously).. Coach K should be on that list..
Kaminsky's note gave me goose bumps. This is what it should be all about.
:sparkles: Add the WUG Gold Medal to that picture :sparkles:
Also possibly that it was a rental... I've had to take a rental with Missouri plates before when flying into KCI and Denver. :cold_sweat:
Who is better? KU or WSU?
Fortunately, I have a bit of a mental litmus test I can play with any potential Div 1 competitor this season. Here's a simple question I ask:
Could they emerge out of pool play at the WUG (one of two teams) and then could they beat Lithuania, Russia and Germany. If the answer is "no" (or in this case, "Hell No!"), then I think KU is better.
@Lulufulu True.. good point!
@nuleafjhawk said:
We don’t have the 25, 35+ point blowouts (going from memory now, so everyone is free to pick it apart) that we used to have under Roy.
This is precisely the difference I was sensing... Roy's teams would blow teams out. (But they didn't win a championship)
Blowouts are rare with Self's teams, despite the fact that (in my opinion) Self's teams are comprised of greater talent and athleticism than Roy's teams. Yes, I think Self is a better recruiter at Kansas than Roy was. I loved Roy, but he did not seem to land the top recruits. Of course, there is great talent beyond the top 5 recruits and Roy got plenty of that.
But I digress.
Roy's teams were like a dynamo while Self's teams are more like a bulldozer. It's probably rock/scissors/paper to some degree: each style has its strength and weakness.
@wrwlumpy Great observation! You are right. There is probably footage of Sherron and TT in the same position doing the same thing many times with the same result.
And this should fill us all with warm feelings for the 2015-16 season.
I've been pondering some similarities about the Bill Self championships and, in particular, a characteristic that might not be a coincidence.
Both the 2008 NCAA championship and the World University Games championship required overtime.
Now, I realize the 2012 NCAA championship did not, but the games leading up to that game were so close that they might as well have been OT (the Purdue and Ohio State games were classics, IMHO)
The game against Serbia was a 1 pointer. Russia was close until the last few minutes. Other games weren't so close, so maybe I'm looking for a pattern and seeing what I'm looking for.. or maybe it's somewhat real.
What do you think?
Does KU's style lead us to play down to the same level of opponents? Does it create tight games that shouldn't be so close? Or is it somehow keeping us competitive against opponents that should have the upper-hand? Does it give 'grit' and 'heart' a chance to pull out a victory at the end despite mis-matches?
Spent some time in Lindley Hall. And atop that building is the Tombaugh Observatory, visible from the FieldHouse.
Me too! I thought you were there! Where did you find the photos??
It's like he's watching this thread-- mentioning the scoreboard and the t-shirts!
Sweet! Thanks for the pics! Feel like i'm almost there!