@rockchalkjayhawk A miracle occurred; Moses parted the waters that Shelby could arrive, but then Noah fled on his boat.
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Hopefully NIL so it doesn’t count against Revshare. I suppose that’s the goal to get as much NIL approved outside of Revshare to boost coffers.
@nuleafjhawk We fired off a literal pallet of fireworks! online ordering is great. Making memories for the kids…
https://apple.news/AkB5OvUTqSkyuewFsHejqDg ↗
3 year fully guaranteed contract. Finally.
@wissox said in My memorable moments:
@dylans They were really good this year and while the worst team in recent KU history should have beaten them, we didn't and instead they made it all the way to the championship and forgot to shoot before the buzzer allowing Florida to win. (I know you were joking.....or were you?)
Not joking. I only watch KU basketball. That’s a horrible way to lose. Just holding the ball. Ugg. I’m sure I heard Florida won and Houston lost, but I repressed it. All KU baby!
@wissox When was Houston in the championship game, I missed that. I only watch KU basketball, so that wasn’t on my radar.
@wissox Nah, she was yelling at Christian to run harder, get the rebound, hustle on defense. She was pushing him from the stands. Sounded like any HS gym or baseball game, it was a bit different than the normal crowd noise in Allen Fieldhouse though!
Most memorable in person moments -
Wilt Chamberlain coming back to have his jersey retired.
For Silvio Desousa’s WWE audition I was right on that baseline sitting during directly in front of Christian Braun’s mom. The actual best part about that game was hearing Mrs Braun’s mom voice when yelling at Christian. Dead giveaway that it was a players mom without even looking. lol
Saw many victories so the Acie Law IV game sticks with a guy. Losses suck!
@rockchalkjayhawk said in KU Roster for 25-26:
** With the recent House v NCAA settlement, things are complicated with roster size. It’s hard to say if KU has two more spots to fill, or less. Also, apparently there’s a new fule for “designated student athletes.” These are players who would have been removed given the new roster rules, but now may stick around until they run out of eligibility, but may not count against roster size. This could easily be ALL the KU walkons. ****
May as well look ahead to see what’s in store for next season.
I’ll try to keep track of the offseason drama here. I’ll keep this mostly official, so no portal projections here.
But the portal window is: March 24 to April 22
Roster size: 14 (includes ALL but DSA players. Normally it’s 15, but we lost one to NCAA sanctions)
Roster size at the moment: 12 (a bit sketchy given the DSA rules)
RETURNEES (4)
G Elmarko Jackson
G/F Jamari McDowell
PF Bryson Tiller
C Flory Bidunga
RETURNING WALK ONS? (4 – and potential “designated student athletes”)
G Noah Shelby
G Wilder Evers
G Will Thengvall
F Justin Cross
IMCOMING FRESHMEN (5)
G Darryn Peterson
F Samis Calderon
G Corbin Allen – Oak Park High School
SG Kohl Rosario
C Paul Mbiya — not sure what year he is
PORTAL ADDITIONS (3)
G Jayden Dawson via Loyola Chicago. One year of eligibility left.
G/F Tre White via Illinois – previous stops at Louisville, USC. One year of eligibility left.
G Melvin Council Jr. via St. Bonaventure – previous stop at Wagner. One year of eligibility left.
BIG QUESTION MARK (1)
SF Jaden Nickens – A football player who may play hoops. May have to count against the roster before the season begins.
HAVE ENTERED PORTAL (6 initially – Bidunga entered, but will return)
G/F AJ Storr – signed with Ole Miss
G/F Rylan Griffen — signed with Texas AM
G/F Rakease Passmore — signed with Maryland
PF/C Zach Clemence – signed with Texas A&M
G David Coit – signed with Maryland
Great info! Thanks!!!
@nuleafjhawk congrats! I started working 10 hour days instead of 14 and I’m at a loss of what to do with my time. I can only imagine having your entire routine upended would be interesting. Enjoy!
@approxinfinity weak draft it seems.
@SlimShaddy54 Duke had all five starters drafted. No KU players draft worthy. KU beat Duke… maybe Bill can coach a bit.
@MR11 If you’re going into a field so specialized there are only a few openings, you know where they are located, it’s no surprise. Your other option is to be so good you can do it from wherever you want. If there were 30 locations to work at you would get to choose one. It’s not like if one of them offers you a job you can’t be employed by the others since they own your rights to work in that field.
The military has multiple branches that you can choose from that have bases located in multiple locations. Generally speaking you get to choose from multiple locations when they move you and unlike being traded in sports they pack you up and move you. In addition you can choose how you enter the military as enlisted or an officer to take further control of your destiny.
I think the draft in sports is quite unique and flies in the face of capitalism - while still making a boat load of money. I also don’t know what would help floundering teams bounce back, but that doesn’t seem to be an issue in college sports. Maybe the entire philosophy of the draft is antiquated.
@dylans back to how this affects KU with no draftable players - a HS player draft for college ball would ruin the product we love, would it not? Would laws even allow it? Could removing the NBA draft create a more enjoyable product? The player stability of NBA rosters is enviable- everything in college is just one year deals. Both leagues have room for major improvement.
Only two big 12 teams on that list. Maybe, I struggle to recognize the current Big12 teams - limited shared history.
@wissox this isn’t really directed at you just a general pondering. I wonder what it would be like if teachers were drafted out of college and told where they could teach? - or they could pick a different profession of course. I’m sure the underprivileged would be better served if the teachers (or plumbers or carpenters or accountants or doctors or whatever profession) had no choice in where they worked - slippery slope
I don’t like the draft; it’s probably needed to even the playing field, but socialism is un-American at heart. I’d be curious what the league would loom like with no draft and just a salary cap - most NBA teams only keep one rookie if any on the roster. Draft picks are traded away like candy - just do away with the draft and let it be a mad dash of free agency and allow players more agency in their career trajectory- getting ie drafted by the Kings is a career killer.
It is what it is and like amateur sports in college I'm sure it’ll never change. 🤷♂️ (…well not the way we want 😂)
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45592658/chiefs-seek-extension-kansas-stadium-financing ↗
😂
Also https://ballparkexperience.athletics.com/ ↗
Looks nice for a park that’s not happening.
@wissox I’d hate being forced to work in Utah as well. The draft is kinda bull crap - definitely not how I’d like to be chosen for work. But I don’t know how you’d force parity on the league without salary caps and weighted drafts. You’d end up with a bunch of Duke, Kansas, Alabama, Ohio State, Dodgers, Yankees garbage where the biggest checkbook wins.
If revenue sharing is the lions share of the money paid to players, KU will be an also ran. NIL is still the driver and if that money is dried up they better get to looking harder.
@approxinfinity Yes. It would be nice to earn the big heads! Last years crew seemed to believe the hype a bit too much.
@HoraceZontal said in The portal.:
A lot of teachers in Hashinger Hall. Well, in 1981-82 anyway
A lot of drugs in Hashinger Hall during the late 90s early 2000s. Artsy/hippy dorm then.
@approxinfinity Maybe. I believe that is the goal. That is the model at other schools without the rich basketball history that KU has. I just hate breaking what is working in favor of doing what everyone else is doing. It would be best to hit up different donors (build your own support) for football as opposed to over taxing those that support the basketball team.
@BShark Seems to be partially at the expense of the basketball team. Would be nice to have funds to allocate to the program I watch as opposed to football. Being great at one thing is way better than being mediocre at two.
@drgnslayr said in The portal.:
@approxinfinity said in The portal.:
Are we getting closer to imposing harder transfer rules now that universities can pay athletes directly and there is a clearer contractual legal path? I dont think NIL destroyed college sports, it just pulled the curtain back. Now we have to align what the schools and fans want with what the athletes want. Time to make the fans happy and lock kids into multiyear contracts.
I don't think NIL has destroyed college sports either. This will take an adjustment period and trial-and-error rule changes to make things smoother.
Until there are multiple year commitments it will be unstable and not super enjoyable for this fans particular taste. Time will tell.
@drgnslayr said in The portal.:
@approxinfinity said in The portal.:
It will take us years to uncondition all of us to start treating athletes like people in other work places.
It’ll never happen - it doesn’t with professional sports. It’s a weird profession being in the entertainment business. No privacy is part of the cost.
@drgnslayr said in The portal.:
@SlimShaddy54 I worry about visas for Int'l players. Our current federal government is a mess.
👎 Wrong thread. The politics section is wide open for comments.
International players handlers are so shady I’d prefer to avoid them entirely, but KU basketball isn’t very shiny right now. NIL has reduced players loyalty to just the dollar and it’s hindering their long term development. Maybe the only money they’ll ever make is in college they way many act. I suppose they don’t value the education and are just in it for ball - in which case go pro, but they aren’t good enough… So KU is a minor league basketball program now and a revolving door. Minor league basketball sucks and this is worse, no player development and zero loyalty -contracts don’t mean a thing. I’ve never once felt compelled to watch a G-league game and that’s what the ncaa is turning into (only a worse version). Hope someone gets a handle on it before the product is completely ruined.
@rockchalkjayhawk said in KU Roster for 25-26:
** With the recent House v NCAA settlement, things are complicated with roster size. It's hard to say if KU has four more spots to fill, or less. Also, apparently there's a new fule for "designated student athletes." These are players who would have been removed given the new roster rules, but now may stick around until they run out of eligibility, but may not count against roster size. This could easily be ALL the KU walkons. ****
May as well look ahead to see what's in store for next season.
I'll try to keep track of the offseason drama here. I'll keep this mostly official, so no portal projections here.
But the portal window is: March 24 to April 22
Roster size: 14 (includes ALL but DSA players. Normally it's 15, but we lost one to NCAA sanctions)
Roster size at the moment: 10 (a bit sketchy given the DSA rules)
RETURNEES (4)
G Elmarko Jackson
G/F Jamari McDowell
PF Bryson Tiller
C Flory Bidunga
RETURNING WALK ONS? (4 -- and potential "designated student athletes")
'
G Noah ShelbyG Wilder Evers
G Will Thengvall
F Justin Cross
IMCOMING FRESHMEN (3)
G Darryn Peterson
F Samis Calderon
G Corbin Allen -- Oak Park High School
PORTAL ADDITIONS (3)
G Jayden Dawson via Loyola Chicago. One year of eligibility left.
G/F Tre White via Illinois -- previous stops at Louisville, USC. One year of eligibility left.
G Melvin Council Jr. via St. Bonaventure -- previous stop at Wagner. One year of eligibility left.
BIG QUESTION MARK (1)
SF Jaden Nickens -- A football player who may play hoops. May have to count against the roster before the season begins.
HAVE ENTERED PORTAL (6 initially -- Bidunga entered, but will return)
G/F AJ Storr -- signed with Ole Miss
G/F Rylan Griffen — signed with Texas AM
G/F Rakease Passmore — signed with Maryland
PF/C Zach Clemence -- signed with Texas A&M
G David Coit -- signed with Maryland
Camron McDowell
Not to be confused with Cam McDowell
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4896462/cam-mcdowell ↗
@SlimShaddy54 that’s 20.5mil in total for all sports. There will be basketball and football schools again. It’ll be very difficult to maintain multiple top flight programs.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/45489795/chisholm-feud-garcia-reignites-yankees-royals ↗
This is funny. The guy that launched head first into another guys knees is upset that he slapped his helmet with the glove in a bad tag attempt. lol Yankees are so entitled. Just a routine play
@AsadZ .500 baseball from the Royals is all I want. Just be competitive. Not sure what the ownership expects - but they have no bats. I wonder what makes Sherman more money - being a playoff team, hovering around .500 ir just stinking up the joint while not spending any money?
I think that kid from miss st is back as well.
@BShark https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2025/6/5/24443563/chiefs-news-matt-araiza-eddie-czaplicki-punter-battle-real ↗
Maybe, but if history is any indicator the incumbent will win out - I am not an Ariza fan. His control sucks, but he has a huge leg. The Mahomes led Chiefs don’t usually need to flip the field, but rather pin them back when a drive stalls. So maybe Eddie wins out. 🤷♂️ I don’t want to see Tommy Townsend-esc hold issues ever again so the best hold might win out too. 🤷♂️ 🤷
@rockchalkjayhawk Toub overstates his hand constantly. Good coach, but big mouth.
@rockchalkjayhawk Agreed. He’s not built thick like Tyreek, just fast. Good ball tracking and hands, but probably not a good idea.
@wissox lol
@rockchalkjayhawk Purdy’s new contract forced them to clear their books. Not a serious contender this year. Cap gymnastics are wild. Void years, backloaded contracts, etc. it all muddies up the picture. Essentially if a team wants to keep any given player they can make it work, but you can’t keep every player.
Dang!!! New England is so bad they couldn’t give away contracts!
@BShark said in KU Roster for 25-26:
@TYOHawk said in KU Roster for 25-26:
Team might be mediocre
I'll bet against that
No way this team as constructed is anything but mediocre by KU’s standards. The floor should be a big 12 title and in the discussion for a national championship by KUs standards.
This team doesn’t pass the smell test yet. Will they finish in the top 1/4 of the Big12? - sure. Will they contend for a final four berth? - not very likely.
But Bill’s a terrific coach so maybe he can twist this deeply flawed roster into something watchable. DP should be electric. If Flory can improve to where he is worth the money (that would be a huge ask as he was mostly ineffective last year) then KU will be fun to watch, but will need a wing to develop to have any real shot at even the Big12.
Annual NIL donations need to exceed 10million per season. I’d say whatever business is willing to pledge 1 million plus gets prime court side advertising, 5 million + gets their logo on the shoulder of the jersey. 🤢
@AsadZ maybe Caglianone will provide a boost
Adidas flagship institution huh? Pony up big boys. Nike doesn’t seem to have a cash flow issue when it comes to directing recruits.