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Just read quite the article about Zion Williamson. Written by Ben Roberts of the Herald Leader. - he got with 5 recruiting analysts:- - Rivals , Cory Evans , Scouts , Evan Daniels , ESPN , Jeff Borzello , & Jerry Meyer & Andrew Slater of 247 sports to weigh in where they they thought Zion's 3 most likely landing spots they are as follows: # 5 - -South Carolina : They didn't muster much -still enough to land # 5 ahead of North Carolina -and UCLA - - little chance here. -- # 4 Duke: Kryzewski's pitch? - - -K would play Williamson like he did LeBron in the 2012 Olympics- - Williamson clearly interested in Duke. Nearly landed to the # 3 on this list - -one picked them as high as # 2 but Duke has some ground to make up.- - - - - - -# 3 KU ( surprises me here) -Writer states bit of a surprise.

Stating as the summer wrapped up recruitment was being shaped up as a likely KU-UK battle. Not only did the Jayhawks not finish in the top 2 among our experts , they were much closer to the # 4 then the 2 spot. - -In fact 3 of the analysts left KU off their lists all together. - - -WTF?

Williamson played summer ball on the Adidas circuit & KU is a premier Adidas School. KU has also been seen as the favorite for highly touted PG Devon Dotson a friend of Williamson. Jayhawks will get a chance to host Williamson for an official next weekend but according to the experts we asked - - KU'S stock has fallen off sharply in his recruitment. # 2 Clemson. The Biggest surprise, all five Analysts mentioned Clemson one of them had Clemson # 1 Step father was a former Clemson Basket Ball player. - Serious threat to land one of the lands top players - Of course we know who they picked for # 1. - -

SO guess we can move on from him - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Well, just answered my own question from a post of just a few minutes ago.

Article from Zags Blog says Devon is now weighing his options. His dad Dana said the visit with Florida was a good visit. Got the chance to hang around Florida players, he attended a class , two practices , met the academics , met the strength and conditioning and attended the foot ball game Saturday which I read he didn't stay for the length of the game.

Met with the Coaching staff several times, which they told him he would have the ball in his hands from day one - -as they are losing their starting PG ( Ja"Quan Newton. )- - said they run an up tempo and can see Devon fitting right in.

Also said Devon visited KU last month and KU could be losing a lot including our Pg Graham. - -Said Devon is going to take the weekend off from visits and consider his options & next actions.

It did mention that UCLA , Clemson , & Maryland had shown interest but did not mention anything else about them. - -Sounds like he has visited who he wants and it WILL BE either KU or Florida to me. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

I'm thinking that we would be seeing some movement in the CB from or about Devon if it indeed was he was going to commit or there was a huge swing in Florida favor wouldn't w by now - -something?

Or hear something from Devon about his trip to Florida - -I'm not talking about from some Florida insider - -I'm talking about Devon talking about his trip how I went, what he though possible decision date - not some insider giving his input - -Just silence right now. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DY LONG BABY

@RockkChalkk I'm hearing ya guy. - -I saw this about Langford the pother day off the Indians Site.. - Surprised the hell out of me - now he would be a nice addition. - - -But like you say we are more involved then what a lot of people INCLUDING myself thought. - - we shall see. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BeddieKU23 I'm not going to say one way or another with Devon. - -I'm just going to have that old scenario wait and see approach I guess. - -I mean as is so typical after a visit these guys are going to put out nothing but positive things for their fans to read. - -99-100 they aren't going to put out anything saying that a recruit says sorry but nope I'm am not interested in your school - -your school sucks or negative material like that. - I'm not saying obviously that's what Devon said - -I'm not saying he didn't say a lot of positive things about Florida - -chances are he did -what recruit doesn't?

Almost any recruit even the recruits after they visit KU have nothing but good things to say about the school, it's just the way it seems to go after a visit. - -So chances are he did tell this Insider positive things for Florida. -Let's sit back for a couple of days and just watch - -see, I agree if it does turn out this way - - then I am stumped - -I just don't get it, but we shall see. But for this guy sounds like he thumping his chest pretty hard about something happening within the week? - - umm I don't know about all that. - -Something tells me we STILL aren't in as bad as shape as some may think - might be wrong but. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@KUSTEVE Oh man, sorry to hear that, that was nasty. I have relation there one of them lost his home - -totaled the other was a little luckier, thank GOD at least your alive - -sorry to hear that - -welcome back anyways. You know at least for what they say materialistic things can be replaced right? - -lives can't again glad your back. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@KUSTEVE Ya well you been, I was just getting ready to ask-if anyone had knew what had happened - just like a ghost rider lol - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

WOW - -so glad we didn't end up with this mess. -- - Mitchell Robinson had changed his mind once AGAIN. - -Now leaving WKU a 2nd time and just going to concentrate on the NBA drat next year. - -what a mess , could you imagine.?

Another tidbit: - - Atwann Jones commits to Okla State. - -# 67 didn't take any visits. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@stoptheflop So what your trying to tell people is, that a winning coach Can't be a guy wear his emotions on his sleeve? - -Not allowed to show his passion for the School - -Not allowed to show his emotions for his kids - how had they have worked their ass off. - Show his emotions for realizing that their work was paying off , his work was paying off? -ya -- ummmm wow - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY. - -WHAT A WAY TO START MY WEEK SEEING THAT ROFLMMFAO

@stoptheflop Sreiously? - - -Really? - -your reaching that far, talking about a Coach crying after an upset win - -any win at all period at a program that was and still close to ashes? -That's a reach for sure. Soo we can go to the OTHER end of the spectrum, if a team or any member of a staff that win the Super Bowl or the NCAA in THE bowl happen to cry after winning - -or another player get's hurt - -no crying right, there is no crying in football EVER right? -- ummmm, ummmm, ummmm. ya you keep that train of thought I get beat up for some of my comments and I try to refrain - -I rally do, but when I see a comment such as this - -Come on give me a fricken break - that statement is beyond way over the left field fence holy crap. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Hell ya - - T-Minus 13 days until the official , official start of the fore seeable Basketball Season.

Boot Camp starts tomorrow - -always interesting to see how what players hold up. - -Thin the Lawson boys have ever been through anything like this lol? I am sooooo ready man what a long summer.

I think it's going to be a couple of next two - - three weeks on the recruiting front. - I think we could very easily see a couple of players commit , whether it be here at KU or somewhere else - -I kinda have a feeling we may here some coming from Devon and possibly McCormack within this time frame we shall see what pans out.

But main time back at the ranch - -Jumpin - -Gee - -Hossa - - Fats guys can you feel it? It's getting within sniffin distance I'm ready - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@dylans Nope - no link just my gut - -sorry - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@mayjay Lmao, hey good idea lol - -only two problems. what about the electrocardiogram & Heart Cath lol? - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@AsadZ As of today they are both still committed. - -Pookie and Jason. I wouldn't hold my breath it ending up that way.

Jason says he is taking his 5 officials and you know they gonna hound him to death. - -Willing to beat - Jason leaves - -Williams leaves. - Let's have a show of hands how many think these two will stick to their commitments ? We have a bunch of de-commits already we are down to 10 verbal's, It's hard to sell a program get people wanting to play here when they see this product on the field - -the reputation this School has sad shape right now. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BAB

@mayjay Thanks - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@dylans I can ask the same question as to why people feel so confident That we are not a major player for him. - -Look this could go on banter back and forth - -not worth it, at least not to me, I've have more serious thing to concentrate on such as my upcoming Stress tests on my heart and multiple other tests concerning my heart - that's some for me to really concentrate. Look we can opposite opinions, it's some just only want to hear their favorable side. CB'S are a bunch of crap - -been proven multiple times tell me that isn't so. If you put your belief in CB'S then you must still believe in Santa Claus too lmao.

Don't need proof, it's me - it's my gut feeling and I will say again and feel very very confident - -David McCormack WILL NOT commit to Oklahoma St, again David McCormack WILL NOT commit to Oklahoma State. period. - like I said it is fruitless to keep going back and forth back and forth I have an opinion just as others have theire.

You may think mine is crazy unfounded ridicilious what ever that's fine, that's people's right to think that. I have no problem with that just as I have my right. - Is this not an open forum? - -Are we always suppose to agree 100 with one another? if sooooo then I don't honestly know what to tell ya, Hell 'm suppose to agree with the ol lady 100% of the time - -doesn't happen - -still married lmao. Tis is not the first time people have agreed won't be the last. I'm just not going to pursue this particular question any further , before it gets out of hand. I enjoy this room anyways bottom line we all want whats best for KYU I think we can all agree on that - -My thoughts McCormack is either here at KU - -or Duke but no way in hell will he land at Oklahoma St -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@JayHawkFanToo ok, thanks for the insight. - -so enlightening, I hope I can one day when I grow up be able to comprehend like you thank you. - have a great day. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@JayHawkFanToo right. - -and you never answered my question when I turned it back to you. - - - Still waiting - -thanks. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BeddieKU23 He doesn't know. - -All he knows or so he thinks anyways is that KU is not the leader good for him - I'm tired of trying to lead a horse to water. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@JayHawkFanToo and for the THIRD time -- -he WILL NOT end up at Okla St - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Just read Grimes dates for his officials. - -Texas, Sept 22nd. - - Kentucky , Sept 29th - - KU , Oct 13 - -& Marquette , Oct 20th

We shall see what happens. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@JayHawkFanToo Let me turn your own question back to you, that you ask me. -- . You asked me if I'm not using the comments as the main reason I see KU as being a major player, then is it the un-official visit? You say he has had 9 un-official so far.

So let me turn it around right back to you. If your not just using the CB'S as the main reason that you see KU as being that school that is NOT the program in play at this time- -then what is the reason you don't see KU as the Program in play at this time? ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@JayHawkFanToo No he won't of wasted ANY of his five officials - -as they are his Officials. and with them being officials they are schools that are in serious contention, and as far as CB's are concerned I think a lot of people are starting to see how much weight they in reality hold - - -not much, too many cases of recruits being seen as CB leaders for a certain school and end up somewhere else.

Like many many others other then myself on other sites have said a lot of times with these analysts if they see one analyst make a prediction and they think this guy might have a little more info - -then they jump the train goin off his prediction whether they believe it or not -educated guess - that's it. - -but anyways we will see where he lands but I'll stick with my prediction - -he WILL NOT end up at Oklahoma St, a lot better chance of Duke as they have been on him for quite awhile. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Just read where Devon's dad said their in home visit with Coach Self and Howard went great last night. Siad lots of questions asked like about KU academics - - - KU support staff- - - to where they will live- - - what will they eat - - - and How closely they will be monitored.

According to Dotson father Dana - - -says they like what they heard.Said that see hi coming in and being their starting PG from day 1. - -says how they stressed that over and over.

The ONE thing that needs to be brought out is though 1st is that it is NOT a promise , 2ndly nor is it a guarantee - -What they told Dana is They Believe. that is what they think.

Dana said visit went great, Said KU - -Coach Self talked about why KU is the best fit for Devon, talked a lot about the vison for Devon what is and should be important for Devon and how KU fits those wants. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BeddieKU23 Wait -- Grimes didn't have Arizona in his final 4. - -He is down to Ku , Kentucky , Marquette & Texas - -- -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@justanotherfan ya I really haven't hear a lot of super positive reviews on him either. - Not a lot of vibes ya know what I mean? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BeddieKU23 Soooo now what? - -that what leaves KU & ? down to 2 now right?

Well read where we landed on a recruits final five once again. Doesn't really amount to a lot I don't think but Louis King announced final five of: - - Oregon , NC State , Seton Hall , KU , & Purdue.

Seems like a pretty solid at this point to Oregon, not really thinking much chance here but you never know stranger things have happened. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@JayHawkFanToo How about you tell me if KU is NOT a major player tell me why if he isn't that interested in the University why is he making two visits for one. - -You said he was close for the un- official -- AND? - - he comes here on this un official , if he is not that interested , if he is not serious - -why come back on an official? - - If he didn't see anything that interested - -if he doesn't like what the staff had to say - - if he didn't like the environment - the campus - - the facilities - -why waste an official visit on a school that is not that serious of player in your recruitment? - - Wouldn't you as a recruit want to use your officials for schools that you were seriously considering? - -Would you just want to waste one of your officials when you knew there was no way or little chance of committing there? - - I know if I were a recruit - -I'm taking my officials to schools that I'm interested in , and have a true chance of landing me. - -McCormack is not the only player that has had a friend - - had a previous Coach or connection that is now at another school and that recruit not end up there because they were there.

I'm going to a School because of a lot of other things other then just a friend being there or previous Coach or whatever. I'm going to a school that I feel gives me the best chance to help me improve my skills - develop me to advance to the next level. I'm going to a school for exposure, tradition, and OTHER things he mentioned. - not because of some guy that use to Coach me or a friend. - -McCormack feels really good about our staff - -loves our history of the game -Ya I think your under estimating KU and over estimating a former Coach or whoever the hell this guy is. To say we are insinuate KU isn't a major player with him - is just way off base - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@JayHawkFanToo I'm not taking his remarks as a key - -I'll will say this I'll predict right here - -right now he WILL NOT land at Oklahoma State. - -If not KU then he will land at Duke, they have been in on him for quite some time - No Oklahoma State commit here, mark it own. - - As we pretty well knew ya Oklahoma St right now is his leader in the CB - - And? - -That CB crap is less and less credible all the time, we know that from personal experiences, it's a crap shoot with the analysts, like taking a dart and throwing at a dart board - -Again mark it down - it will not happen for Okla St with this kid. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Read where Jermaine Harris 6'8 PF is scheduled for an official visit on Oct 6th for us.

CB has him 100% right now for WV, his 5 officials are WV this weekend , Rhode Island Sept 22 , Xavier Sept 22nd , and Miami # 77 in the 247 rankings Really think he will probably be West Virginia commit. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark Agree with you on this 1000000000% bud. - I am starting to laugh at these dam CB"s more and more all the time - -I don't think they know anymore then throwing at a dart board. - -just like you pointed out remember Ayton? - now even though it's not final look at Dotson. - -just couldn't agree more. - - McCormack we are heavlly involved and good shape with. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@JayHawkFanToo Oh sorry to say but I think KU is a MAJOR player for McCormack - just off the basis of him visiting KU on his own dime and then returning for an official on late night.

On top if you read what he had to say about the University overall, about KU being the foundatation, the founder of Basketball, how is looking at more then just the game, how he brought up different aspects about KU oh ya I think we are a MAJOR player for him no doubt. him talking about Naismith sorry but I think I'm spot on with this - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

My biggest question is, Grimes is now down to the four schools. Kentucky, KU , Texas , & Marquette, so we made his final four and he made the statement that he was in the process up sitting up his officials hoping to have them sit by this weekend.

Ok so we made the final four , he had planned on coming to KU on Sept 30th I guess on a un-official but cancelled that visit and is going to Kentucky instead. So my question is this seeing as how we are one of the final four left Why didn't he just make Sept 30th an official visit in stead of his planned un-official and cancel. He already had made the plans to be here that weekend, I'm sure they would of made it official - -I don't get that, I mean he is still going to take the official here, so why not the 30th? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@bskeet Like I said in my response - -I'm not really 100% sure Coach Self came out and actually said We HAVE to sign you. maybe adding a little mustard to the whole thing - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark I seen it - -I'm not including Marquette. I think they are a non factor. -- Smart is becoming a pain in the ass, like a tiny burr underneath the saddle , but someone we have to take into accountability -especially with Coleman there and then knowing most of there players and Grimes being from Texas. - Smart has done a good job at attracting quality players, going to be someone to contend with in a year or two.

As far as Kentucky's spill to Grimes - -they said nothing that KU couldn't do for him if he chose to come here: - -Grimes being with another guard they are hoping to bring it ( Quickley ) with the same goal of National Championship? - - -KU matches that with hopefully bringing in another guard ( Dotson ) what kid doesn't come in with not the aspiration of winning a National Championship? - -Kentucky feels they really get him to the next level - - Why wouldn't he feel KU couldn't get him to the next level - -no difference there. - -Kentucky feels they would be a great fit for Grimes to get to my goals of making NBA - -and KU wouldn't? - -so their spill ain't squat - -they have nothing with that approach that we don't have.

As far as KU -- uhhh I don't know if he is quoting EXACT words from the staff or not. - -I have a LITTLE trouble thinking Coach Self actually came out and said that we HAVE TO SIGN HIM. - -I'm just not quite sure Coach would ever come out and say we HAVE to, with or without him we will survive, I mean ya a priority sure but HAVE TO SIGN I don't see the Coach telling a kid that. Plus I'm not for sure positive they are going to tell him that he will be our primary scorer - - I'm not sure we need a primary scorer like he says led the team in scoring. KU has usually for the most part been a very balanced scoring team - -makes me wonder if he will be a black hole when he has the ball - - he has some cockiness, not a bad thing stating that he could come in and be THE MAN at Kansas for sure, I like the kid would be a huge get but maybe reading to much into it but their are some things that he says makes me kind of wonder - is he a kid that never see's a shot that he didn't like? - it's all about Team at KU - -we shall see -
Grimes says he is working on to solidfy official visits working on to finalize later this week,

He wants to take visits - - see the campus - -& see the practices, get overall view of the campus - -see how each Coach views him in their system. - -Not in a hurry to make College Choice.- - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark I agree with you, no depth with that line up he mentioned and umm would be nice to have quality players in the fold for the future - -your right we better LAND SOMEBODY lmao - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark I DO have to say - - - even though I still feel confident about getting Grimes & Dotson there sure seems to be some negative trends coming out of the recruits.

This to me all seems to go down a road we have walked before, and that is do we have a staff that closes the deal? IF for a reason we were to lose out on these guys - -these are two that were considered heavy leans the entire year and then to lose out? - - That tells me that SOMEONE is dropping the ball. - -It happened last year with Ayton & now if it happens again this year? - -What is going on? is it time to question Howard - - - -is it time to question Snacks?

This would just be an indicator that for some reason guys aren't finishing the deal. I am no expert - -by far but you have to stay on these guys 24/7 - -it can't be the theory well things look pretty solid for this guy so let's concentrate on other recruits as we have these guys locked down - Or is it that we are trying to battle the Mega Bluebloods for these guys and end up losing out and then end up missing on others because we spend TO much time on the elite - -elite- - and end up missing on both? -Something smells - -maybe it's time for a shakeup in your recruiting staff. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Well dam I guess give predicts this week anyways.

West Virginia 52 - - - - Delaware St 3

KU 27 27 Ohio 23 ya I know ( I just think somehow )

Iowa State 34 Akron 10

Oklahoma St 31 Pittsburg 20

Duke 28 Baylor 17

TCU 50 SMU 7

Oklahoma 61 Tulane 7

Kansas St 36 Vanderbilt 14

Texas Tech 27 Arizona St 20

USC 34 Texas 17

There it is - - - so be it - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@mayjay Zion Williamson announced he will officially visit KU on Sept 30th - - - late Night at the phog. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark Why would you think Dotson is going to Florida? unless their has been some earthquake this afternoon I hadn't seen. - -He is visiting this weekend, but just a re-schedule from his scheduled visit - I think he still lands here. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

See where Devon has re-scheduled his visit for this weekend with Florida. - -This is really the only school that stills worries me to a degree.

He talks about the relationship he has with the Florida staff, saying they have been recruiting him since he was 14-15 yrs old have developed a bond - kind of worries me some. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@kjayhawks Not EVEN CLOSE. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@kjayhawks ya I didn't know if THAT was just me or what? - -Armstrong has done nothing yet this year - is it possible more probable teams are planning more schemes for him? - double teams possibly - -Right now he is ONE glaring spot missing. - -We just look like a very did organized team right now - -blown assignments - - no pressure - -key very costly penalities, our Defense is a complete wreck. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

It took bender 62 passes to get those 300 plus yards - -sooooo many questionable passes could of very easily had 2 more int's, no mobility period. The thing is - it's time to quit making excuses, time to quit trying to sugar coat - what time is it? - -it's time to take responsibility, this is a sad program right now.

Their QB was ok - -but not as good as we made him, hell our D-Line which was suppose to be a strength, is getting zero pressure - -zilch, you give any QB as much time as he had 4-5 seconds to pick out a receiver your going to get eatin alive, we knee our secondary was told might be a weakness, but there is NO secondary that can cover for that length of time, these receivers were not only open - -they were wide open. - -Wasn't impressed with Bender coming & sure the hell not impressed now. -- -

Like another reader posted on another site , right now this program is an embarrassment to the fans - -to the league, the window of continued excuses is closing. The School wants donors to invest a butt load of money for stadium remodel, - -good luck with that, you have to show some kind of improvement in the product. You can try and continue to make feeble flimsy excuses all day, your fooling no one but yourself. this is a Sad program at this point

Yesterdays loss the WHOLE defensive Coaching staff needs to be held accountable, some saying Bowen - there is more coaches then Bowen , you can say it's only week 2 - great , you want to try and point out any game we can win with what we are putting on the field right now? -If you seriously think that let me have some of that crap your smoking I wanna feel good to, time for excuses have run out

Dam, have you ever had one of those days when you need to stay in bed? - -Ku football gets their ass handed to them and then the ladies fail to show - -Man do we miss Cassie Wait or what? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

If a player is looking for a career day, play against our KU defense, you have your wish. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Key penalities just killin us. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Different half - - different team - -so far, buckle down guys - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Uh Oh we scored - -can we get some defense? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY