Zero flipping energy or desire to be there yet again smh. Why does this team not give a single fuck
Schedule is setup for us to take advantage here, letās get some Ws and build some confidence
I just hate how he get pulled after one mistake and we go back Bill playing favorites. Some guys can get away with some pretty silly plays as long as they are Bills pets. The more he does that and the more Flory sits on the bench, the less recruits will be interesting unless they are already on draft board. Remember how Self rode freshman Grimes coat tails for 30 minutes a game tho he stank up the place more often than not. Feel like their needs to a happy medium
Like I said at this point we have to celebrate every win we can get even if it is against a team that wonāt even sniff the NIT. Until we get different players and shake up our staff. So Ya!!! Got the W
@approxinfinity they are definitely in full blown rebuild mode, hope they give him a few years
This is a really weird game I feel lucky we are still winning
Good stretch by hunt to finish the half
Iād love for Danny to comeback to Selfs staff
I feel like every 3 Zeke shoots is money in AFH
@DCHawker see what just needed one
Pretty slow start here but thatās okay, Iām just gonna enjoy every win we get with this group moving forward
My goodness no game chat
Idc if we win the tile every year, donāt know a single fan that expects that. What do expect is a team competitive enough to win our own conference and given the right rid have an opportunity to make it to the final four every few years.
@mayjay as many great teams self has lost in the tournament I think itās astonishing the amount of fans that just want to hang a banner for that year. You also act like 2019 didnāt exist. We can go back and fourth all day
@SlimShaddy54 Itās debatable as to whom has the better roster but shouldnāt be with KU getting the #1 portal guy and having the most experienced roster in CBB. UConn just won back to back natties, I wouldnāt be mad at all if I was a fan of theirs. Make the NCAAs and itās a successful year with the turnover that they have had. Kinda like the chiefs coming up short on the 3 peat. No team has came anywhere near this close in the Super Bowl era of doing very tough to be too disappointed after winning back to back super bowls.
@mayjay I think the NCAA tournament is the hardest title to win in all of sports but the NIL ordeal makes the two closer than they ever have been. If you want better guys you can go buy them without have to worry about a salary cap in a sense. But saying that Self has had the same recent success as Reid just isnāt factual by any stretch of imagination.
@Texas-Hawk-10 at times both have worked for this team. Iām not sure which is the correct for going further in March at this point in time
@nuleafjhawk I get closer everyday watching this team to doing the same. Twice this season I havenāt even watched a game. Even when I was playing and coaching usually my older brother was able to record the games for me on VHS to watch later. He had cable at his house so that helped a lot once I got to highschool. The Bill Self coaches show used to be on Sunday night on JTV and I never missed a single one in those days. Now itās like I know before we hit the floor we aināt gonna play hard so why should I waste my time?
@wissox for sure it was a little harsh which I know I am at times especially with @Texas-Hawk-10 but heās truly on of my favorite people to go back and forth with and would enjoy having a beer with most of posters on here.
@FarmerJayhawk not a bad idea we have to do something different obviously. As much as Iāve stuck up for Self and enjoyed his time here. This is a new age, we canāt go out there and do the same thing as the past 20 years and be successful. Like I said on another thread losing at home to average teams, getting blown out on the road and going home first weekend of The NCAAs. Thatās not Kansas Basketball unless we keep down the same path. Stat people Iām curious how many home games we have lost the last 5 or 6 years think itās now over half Selfs 20 home losses. God AFH used to be the most feared gym on planet now itās just another court to shoot on smh sad sad reality.
@mayjay has Bill Self made the Final Four or NC game 5 of the last 7 years? He lost in the first weekend 5 of 7 years when we do this year. Seems like a pretty baseless argument to logically thinking folks. If Andy loses in the wildcard round 5 of the next 7 years. Plenty of the kingdom will be saying Andy itās time to hang it up.
@Texas-Hawk-10 all valid points for sure and yes I agree whomever is doing our scouting/recruiting is absolutely terrible at their job. One thing that continues to drive me insane is with our depth, why donāt we push the ball more? Basketball 101 easiest way to score is to beat the others teams defense down the floor. Remember when we used to be deadly in the open floor and teams were scared of us running. Now Juan for some reason just lazily walks the ball up the floor 99.9% of the time. When we push he aināt doing it.
@SlimShaddy54 said in Oh how I hate Kansas State.:
Dang , little surprised after losing to the kittens we only dropped ONE spot in the AP - -dropped THREE in the Coach's , - went from 16/17th in Ap-- surprises me a bit, thought we would probably be like 23rd.-- -U Conn dropped out of AP- - & like 24th in the Coach's
We arenāt a Top 25 team IMO
@dylans said in Super Bowl:
Veach needs to fix that Oline this offseason or itāll be more of the same. Playing a guard at Tackle is a crappy spot to be in and was the direct cause of one of the interceptions. Just an ugly game by the left side of the line in particular.
Now about the bright future - that 50 yard TD bomb to Worthy has been all season in the works. Iām glad it finally started clicking late. Add in Rice (after his suspension) and the two young receivers look fantastic!
Thatās probably my biggest complaint with Veach, it was a problem last season and it got completely ignored in the offseason.
@BeddieKU23 I think there isnāt one single problem with this bunch. Most of the issues the blame falls on Bills shoulders IMO. To walk up to a press conference after you just got taken to the wood shed by Gonzaga and say you were thinking about next years team, building it and how it would be different. Basically in old school terms his mouth wrote a check his ass couldnāt cash. He hand picked these guys and they cohesively suck donkey ass. We all knew AJ was a problem with effort and staying engaged @wissox said it all year last year as a Wisconsin fan. We all knew Zeke couldnāt play defense to save his life. We all knew Hunter doesnāt play defense and KJ isnāt a guy you want starting and playing 30 plus minutes on a good basketball team. We all knew Juan isnāt aggressive enough and doesnāt have any leadership skills. Itās definitely on the players as well but they did get asked to come here. I think this team need a vocal leader as Iāve said many times the best teams Iāve played on and coach had very vocal guys that held each other highly accountable.
I got a laugh outta this but at the same time if we meet KSU again in the B12 tournament Tang will be Selfs daddy with 4-3 record against him.
@AsadZ Taylor is getting paid way too much money to be doing the piss poor job he has.
@Kcmatt7 exactly
@FarmerJayhawk people were devastated when Roy left and I was definitely one of them. Only complaints I have of Roy is not recruiting East of the Mississippi and not winning the big game. Self had more first round exits that Roy in year two here and his winning percentage in round two is much worse than Royās.
@FarmerJayhawk realistically Bill Self will be here for as long as he wants to be for many reasons. I just hope he leaves when the time is right for everyone and if we continue down our current path I hope itās sooner rather than later. The last 2 years havenāt been fun and itās hardly been the Kansas basketball we have grown to love under Roy and Bill. Itās sad but a very factual statement. I donāt look forward to the games anymore for the first time in my life.
@rockchalkjayhawk ya Mahomes was sacked more this season than any other and you could almost add up his sacks from his first 3 as starter to equal this seasons. I wish I could remember who the fool was telling me in week 10 the chiefs had the best offensive line in the NFL on this site but Iāll be nice.
@Kcmatt7 Iām not necessarily saying firing him right now but his seat should start getting warm if next season is similar to these two. If he wins 7 games next year do you still say we canāt fire him heās the best weāve had? Time is undefeated on everyone my friend. Its the Lavar Ball Neva lost of life man
Thinking positively we donāt have to hear all off season again about how the NFL is rigged for Kansas City
Well we knew the offensive line was a problem, it has been much of the year. Not sure I expected the Eagles line to dominate like they did on both sides of the ball. We have to be able to generate pressure only rushing 4 somewhere around 4 seconds. Hurts isnāt known as a great passer but giving him 6 or 7 seconds proved to be detrimental. I hope we can beef up a little on the front lines and keep this group mostly intact
@rockchalkjayhawk thought the same thing, I thought we shouldāve came out running and tried to control the clock. I think we started with 15 passes in the first 17 play calls. I also thought we took away our own short passing game by running deep routes to often.
@Kcmatt7 Iām not going to go back and forth here, as I said you will never even come remotely close to convincing me. Bill Self is a prime example of my argument, Iāve never seen more KU fans calling for change before this season started. Itās all over X and Facebook nearly every game. Very few coaches retire on good terms look at Florida states basketball coach Hambelton this year and Jim however the heck you spell his name at Miami this season. Two beloved coaches just a few short years ago.
@Kcmatt7 playing 2 and 3 big men against teams with stretch 4s. Playing experience over talent this entire year. Bill Belichick is another prime example of dying a hero or living to become the villain. Thatās pretty much how coaching and professional sports are buddy. You never ever even remotely convince me of other wise see examples almost every year.
At some point Iām wondering if Mahomes needs to be pulled before he is seriously injured
Sadly if you told me we handle Barkley like this, Iād thought weād have a chance. I figured this one would be high scoring, I bet the over of 45 points so Iām in good shape on that at least
@Kcmatt7 said in If Billās roster falls apartā¦:
@kjayhawks said in If Billās roster falls apartā¦:
Like I said earlier this season it doesnāt matter the coach or the sport eventually time catches up and their philosophy donāt work anymore to most coaches unless you retire after a good season. It happen to Dean Smith, Bobby knight, Tom Landry and Hank Stram. Itās the ole Batman line either you die a hero or live long enough to become the villain.
Dean Smith made a FF his final year coaching! And was only 4 years removed from his 2nd Natty Lmao.
So did K! Who missed the tourney at least once I can remember with Duke. But the game didnāt pass him by.
Izzo has had ups and downs and has a team who could definitely make a FF run this season.
What philosophy does Self have that is causing the game to pass him by?
I didnāt say Coach K anywhere in my post and a lot of people were mad a Smith for only winning 2 titles with the guys he had. What about the others I listed?
Offense showed up finally just waited til it was as 34-0
Kinda frustrated that Reid hasnāt changed up the line and at least gave Humpries a try
Like I said earlier this season it doesnāt matter the coach or the sport eventually time catches up and their philosophy donāt work anymore to most coaches unless you retire after a good season. It happen to Dean Smith, Bobby knight, Tom Landry and Hank Stram. Itās the ole Batman line either you die a hero or live long enough to become the villain.
Sadly if the offense had kneeled and punted the whole half. The chiefs would still have a chance and likely only be down 10-0
Big boy football is won or lost in the trenches, you can get pressure with 4 and the other side has to send 2 or 3 to touch you, not a good combo. On the plus side Reid and Kelce prob donāt retire lol
That may have been game there folks
@nuleafjhawk couple of weak ass penalties that would set the internet on fire if they were reversed
Itās looking like the Bucs Super Bowl all over again already 4 sacks and 8 hits on mahomes
Offensive line has been an issue all season
@nuleafjhawk said in Super Bowl:
I'm curious. Which does Brady do better? Suck or Blow?
You can tell Brady definitely doesnāt want the chiefs to win