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J Hawks 34. UNLV 20
@kjayhawks I know, but I can still act disinterested, can't I? :)
@dylans I was the same. I know I can google it. Never heard the name, don't really care to know it. I'll watch when they start playing games and see who there is to get excited about and who will ride out of here on some draft hopes and try to forget about them as soon as possible.
Since Lance is ultimately the guy who gets the blame/credit I was wondering what role he has in a situation like that? I mean if it's my team I'm screaming into the radio 'I don't care what Jeff said, run the ball!'. Do head coaches do that?
Just trying to understand what the OC does. Is his IPad telling him in this situation run this play? Does he look at matchups and say this will work? Trying to figure why what seems so obvious to so many fans about that game wasn't obvious to him? Have media types been critical of his play calling? Anyone have links?
@Crimsonorblue22 Man that's a lot of things to keep track of to make sure we don't jinx the Jayhawks.
@AsadZ said in Let’s talk Illinois:
How Bears won the game was incredible, sometimes your opponent mess up things.
Exactly, like we did against Illinois!
@dylans Like a rookie with talent but who really only played about a half game in the preseason. Didn't make any bad throws, had several drops that would have been bigger plays, but also took a 19 yard sack. To me most glaring was he looked slow.
Bears won today the same way Illinois won yesterday. Turnover prone team who generally outplayed the victors. Gain more yards? Lose. More Time of Possession? Lose.
Just saw this from an Illini fan: "Great win! Thanks KU coaches for not feeding Neal more."
One more gripe for the upcoming week. We have DirecTV and they are currently arguing with the ABC/ESPN nation and as a result I won't be able to watch Friday when they play UNLV. grrrr. first world problem I know, but grrrrr....!
Forgot to set the DVR so I can't go back and watch. Had a penalty negate a TD to Grimm early in the 2nd quarter. Game play by play calls it offensive pass interference. From the stands Lance looked like he was arguing with refs, but never saw replay. Was it a legit gripe? Anyone remember?
Well as pumped as I was for this one, it sure fizzled. Actually we controlled it for the most part for 3 quarters. The pick 6 was the only thing that kept Illinois in it. The defense finally wore out when they learned they'd be going back out on the field in a couple of minutes. Two long scoring drives in the 4th by Ill was all she wrote.
I too walked away miffed with Grimes. Our seat angle was such that it was kind of hard to see the plays, but you'd look up on the running plays and see on the scoreboard 5-6 yards a pop, and it just seems kind of logical that running is going to be your bread and butter. And yet we seemed to get away from it.
Leipold is not a dumbass as someone mentioned.
It was a fun game to be at. Illinois fans aren't obnoxious although after the game as idiot students ran past us down to the field we heard one irate Illinois fan mad about Bill Self leaving. Couldn't quite tell what he was mad about, but like dude, your team just won the game.
If our DBs turn and look for the ball, maybe we stop some of their longer plays.
This is a game we should have won. Clearly.
@webjay said in Let’s talk Illinois:
WTF? Run for 7, then throw it away twice?
From the bleachers, this felt like the series that lost it for us. Sure the pick 6 of course didn't help at all, but we'd established the run, and we have 2nd and 3 and just, why?
@stoptheflop I agree. It’ll be the first non conference road win in in a long time. (If we win)
I was looking at our seasons while I was at KU and noticed two years before I arrived we beat 10th ranked USC in LaLa Land. One of only 4 wins that season, how the heck did that happen?
Reading over at the Champagne Room they're worried about our secondary, as they should be! They're licking their chops because of our frontline and they think they have the o-line to do some damage. No news flash here for us. Hopefully we've improved. So their keys to victory on one side of the line is to establish the run, limit the damage Kobee and Mello can do (and aren't they on the all name team for college football?!!) They seem to think if giving Altmeyer time he can also inflict some damage. I seem to remember him ripping off some decent runs against us last year.
On the other side of the line is where Illinois is worried. "offense as explosive as any in the country" was one line I read. Imagine that being written about our team!! They're not real confident in their secondary stopping us. So they're focusing on stopping the run game and think they might have some success there. TBH, the article on this aspect doesn't have a lot of hope for Illinois containing our offense.
There's a fairly strong pessimism here. Our secondary beats theirs, our skill positions beats theirs, our RB's beat theirs, the war in the trenches is about even it looks like.
I'm predicting a KU 24-21 victory with in true Illinois fashion, they have a game tying 28 yard FG attempt that is good, but there's a holding call and they miss the 38 yarder.
I've known of this game for 2 years now and am so hyped to be there and see the Jayhawks for the first time since seeing us get destroyed by the Oklahoma machine in 1987 to the tune of 71-10 on a cold miserable day, only made more miserable by the Jayhawks scoring their lone TD when I was walking to my car with the score 71-3.
@FarmerJayhawk What are they doing?
@dylans What town were you from?
Game is now a sellout. First in Champaign in about 8 years. Imagine that KU is the team selling out a game at an opponents?!! I'm guessing it's going to be a KU parade down I-57 from Chicago and back Saturday night.
@kjayhawks When the play happened I was distracted and someone said Jardin got hit with a targeting. I saw your "stupidest thing I've seen....." comment I went back and watched it. It looked like an average run of the mill stupid play, unless you were just referring to the timing of it essentially giving the game to USC.
@Crimsonorblue22 I'm 60, has mine fully developed? I wonder sometimes.
@kjayhawks Never said it was ok, and I agree it was a stupid thing to do but it personalizes it a bit when you have a relationship (in this case nothing more than a social media relationship now).
@DanR Well the curse is true because I discovered it! But it applies to basketball as well, 2007 was when it happened and what have they done since then? An elite 8 this past season when you might remember UCONN went on a 30-0 run or something like that. That's got curse written all over it!
Yes they had a nice run during the 80's with some decent QB's. Was exciting to see them make the Rose Bowl in 84 but then UCLA jumped all over them. Like the parade was barely finished and U of I was losing by 14 already!
Lou Henson was OK as a coach, but never really great I thought especially considering the talent he had.
Maybe because it’s the first time I’ll be seeing KU gridders in action since the 80s but my excitement for this game is going to distract me all week at work.
Brett Bielema is quite familiar to me since his days in Madison and so this game scares me a bit but on paper it’s one we should win. Illinois is a fairly talent rich state football wise but they lose recruiting wars to ND Michigan and mainly other BIG schools.
Illinois is also battling an infamous curse, the curse of chief illiniwek, the once proud authentic mascot of the university that dressed in and danced in a costume that honored the Illini tribe but was nonetheless removed. Illinois sports have been not the same ever since. I proclaimed the curse after a bad loss on yahoo commenting and started doing so regularly and I’m sure others may have had the same thought but it is a thing now at least a little. Since I was an Illini fan as a kid growing up in the state before I even knew what a Jayhawk or Badger was I still pay attention to them a little.
A road win at even a mediocre BIG team will be looked at favorably come December so this is a great chance for us to make a statement.
Brian Kelly regime causing some angst in Baton Rouge. I know the dad of the kid who committed the flagrant which helped USC get much closer to winning that game. Always a reminder to Me when I rip on a college kid that he’s someone’s son and it must hurt like heck to see your kid being criticized with many choice words that we fans are known to use sometimes.
Well they WERE losing
Colorado losing at the half to NDState!
Protect all key assets so they're healthy when the competition increases next week at Illinois, a game that I now have tickets for with a bunch of KU friends!
Colts fans are pissed about Bean.
Saw a twitter thing. Notable coaches records against top 10 teams since 2009. (not sure why they chose that year) Bill Self and Cal are the only two above .500. Call is 31-30 in such games and Bill Self is 43-21. All the other notable coaches below .500. Fran McLaughery at Iowa is 8-41 in these contests.
Just saw this thread. My two cents as a Badger fan too where AJ played. His value is in the explosive scoring that he is capable of. He's a high flyer and will electrify the patrons of AFH on many occasions, enough so that they won't notice the defensive lapse on the other end. He's pretty careless with the ball at times which is saying something because Greg Gard (his previous coach) is like Self in valuing possessions. But sometimes when the good outweighs the bad by a significant margin then you go with the good and I think AJ will be good for our team.
Well I just learned it's in Missouri, so I won't be satisfied with it being just a warm up game. Let's go all Georgia Tech over Cumberland on them and beat them 220-0.
@stoptheflop I don't mind it in basketball since it's considered an exhibition, but Lindenwood does nothing for us in my opinion.
I'm so excited about these possibilities. UCONN in the league means conference tournaments in Boston, or NY, or as Yormak seems to want, in Vegas, or Phoenix. Nothing says B12 more than the conference championship game in New England!
@Crimsonorblue22 Ha, I know it. And it irks me that you pointed it out!!!
@mayjay I know, and I did try to say in the midst there's easier ways to find MLB scores, but it irks me some anyhow!
Incidentally Bill Veecks widow Mary Frances passed several years ago. She was 102.
@mayjay Yeah I saw the documentary. My mom would take my sisters to a Bible camp every summer where she was the camp nurse and i was old enough to be left home while dad went to work during the day the summer of Disco Demolition. I was begging my dad to take me to the games because it was a doubleheader. Not even sure I knew about the disco thing, but thankfully we didn't go. I did watch it on TV, wild stuff.
Ballparks were crazy back then. Fans running on the field much more common. Fights in stands seemed more prevalent. One Sox game Barry Bonds was in left field. He'd played in Chicago the year before and some fans didn't like it. He was wearing a batting helmet while playing the field which didn't stop a fan from throwing a lit m-80 in his direction. I was lucky enough to be at that game!
@wissox said in The Yankees:
Here's another reason to dislike ESPN. It's a love hate relationship because of stuff like this. But I watch less and less ESPN because they seem to dislike baseball. Open up my ESPN APP on the phone, I want to find MLB scores. (yes I know there's better ways to find what I want but one would think the world wide leader would have baseball scores prominently). Headlines is first, only 3 are baseball related, all Yankees, next as I scroll is LLWS, ok, I guess that's baseball too, Golf, Fantasy football, Aaron judge, LLWS, Global soccer scores (sorry but are these scores now more important in the US than baseball?), Sundays top goals, LLWS, LLWS, Weekend Review, US Open tennis (which hasn't happened yet), German Soccer, German Soccer, Preseason NFL standouts, NFL scores, NFL preseason, WNBA story and scores and finally MLB. Scroll scroll scroll before finally finding some of the scores, not all, and really only the royalty scores are shown, including the Royals but to be honest only because they're playing Philly. No Brewers score shown who have the biggest division lead in baseball.
This is my opinion only, some may not care that ESPN ignores baseball. I can't image more people are opening up the app to read about some of those things.
Here's another reason to dislike ESPN. It's a love hate relationship because of stuff like this. But I watch less and less ESPN because they seem to dislike baseball. Open up my ESPN APP on the phone, I want to find MLB scores. (yes I know there's better ways to find what I want but one would think the world wide leader would have baseball scores prominently). Headlines is first, only 3 are baseball related, all Yankees, next as I scroll is LLWS, ok, I guess that's baseball too, Golf, Fantasy football, Aaron judge, LLWS, Global soccer scores (sorry but are these scores now more important in the US than baseball?), Sundays top goals, LLWS, LLWS, Weekend Review, US Open tennis (which hasn't happened yet), German Soccer, German Soccer, Preseason NFL standouts, NFL scores, NFL preseason, WNBA story and scores and finally MLB. Scroll scroll scroll before finally finding some of the scores, not all, and really only the royalty scores are shown, including the Royals but to be honest only because they're playing Philly. No Brewers score shown who have the biggest division lead in baseball.
@mayjay The Veecks are legends here. Planted the ivy at Wrigley. Put names on jerseys. Made the Sox wear shorts. Exploding scoreboard. Disco Demo. Organ in the stands with the greatest ball park organist Nancy Faust who made Na Na Na Hey Hey what it is at sporting events.
Not Sox related but when he owned the Indians and broke the AL color barrier with the signings of Larry Doby and Satchel Paige and famously sent a short person, 3' 7" up to bat with a toy bat in a game and told him snipers in the stands would shoot him if he swung at a pitch.
When Reinsdorf bought the team he said at a press conference "Now I will show Chicago how to run a baseball team." I shoulda known then, but 1983 happened when the Sox were great and I got sucked in. After that press conference he never went back to Sox park, and spent his waning years in the bleachers at Wrigley with his ash tray attached to his wooden leg, shirtless like all the other fans.
It's amazing we went from that amazing man to the cold and heartless Reinsdorf. We could have had Eddie Debartolo owning the team but AL owners voted against his purchase bid under the guise of he might have had mafia ties but they were afraid that he was just too good at what he did and would do. But turns out he was pretty sleazy getting involved in various scandals and even worse a sexual assault charge in which he did what rich guys do and paid her off to avoid any legal troubles. (sound familiar?)
It's really the BIG's fault. They had ten teams, we had 8, the PAC had 8, ACC and SEC didn't have numbers with their conferences. Then the BIG goes out and gets Penn State. Now there were 11 teams in a 10 team league. 1995 started it all. 2 years later the Big 12 is formed out of the Big 8. Madness ensues as everyone wants to be like the two greatest leagues.
@mayjay True. I do have a little hope with a new manager. But little hope. It's turning out to be harder to give up the Sox than I thought!
@dylans Yes, Garrett Crochet has been by far our best player. They're shutting him down to 4 inning starts as this is first year after TJS. I'm glad they didn't trade him. He's really good.
My two Chicago citizen kids loved the convention! My daughter was told to work from home and because so many others did the same, my son who can't work from home had much shorter commutes to work, even though he works just a mile from the United Center!
@jayballer67 There's a lot of people saying Witt is going to give Judge a run for MVP. He's carrying that team to a possible playoff berth, a team not swimming in MLB aided and abetted privilege, but a team doing it with scouting and player development and savvy.
Here's the thing. I start a thread because my team is in the midst of a historically bad season and you hijack the thread and make it about everyones least favorite team.
Haven't visited my thread in a minute, why the heck we talking about Judge in two different threads? He's not the best player by far hands down. Not sure he's any better than Bobby Witt right now.
@mayjay Sox won some games against Cleveland when we were playing our best ball of the season.
Everybody, yes, I know we have a horrible owner and a horrible stadium and it's all caught up to us. Ya'll pray for me!