@dylans apparently it was a three strikes deal and the previous two happened last season. Odd.
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@Crimsonorblue22 almost like players can mess up. Hoping Dot improves his late game play...
We will see the return of the Bruce Weber Sub .500 this year, book it.
FarmerJayhawk said:
HEARTBREAK IN THE OCTAGON OF ROOM
Sooooo empty woof.
@kjayhawks svisus was 16 so that is part of it.
@FarmerJayhawk if we couldn't beat Nova this year it may never happen again sheeeesh
21-18 at the half. Woof.
Pro in Cyprus?
A video leaked that wasn't supposed to.
@Marco both are bad and both should probably be fired.
It's going to be part of a documentary. Rod Thompson actually talked to this guy and asked him to delete it. The YouTube video was supposed to be private for the time being.
@Marco Hoiberg won't be back. Prohm is awful though, maybe the worst coach in the B12.
Details on that deleted tweet coming tonight. :eyes:
Marco said:
Iowa State would be fools to fire Prohm, and there have been rumblings.
They can do better. He is a chucklehead.
@jayballer73 #15 on offense somehow too. Sometimes it's hard to see as we are spoiled but this is a great team.
@FarmerJayhawk damage control monkaHmm
@Marco Tyon is a dog. The other two never see the floor for KU next year, maybe ever but both are fine to have signed.
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
SR Dotson would likely be the single greatest guard season under Bill. We haven't seen a trajectory like this at KU under Bill that I can recall. Outside of three point percentage his numbers aren't that far off of SR Frank. Guessing some people don't want to see it to hold out hope for him staying.
That's saying a lot given the Sr year Mason had but its certainly possible given how advanced his role is compared to where Frank/Devonte were at this time. If he really did elevate his jump shot and play-making to the next level there's no reason to think he wouldn't be a rockstar. Given how much Frank/Devonte improved Jr/Sr year under this staff its not out of the question.
Imagine Jr Dotson, Sr Garrett, Jr Agbaji, Soph Braun, Jr McCormack in the starting 5.. WoW
Not saying you are but for anyone wondering or thinking I'm super far off just directly compare Dotson this year to Frank's SR year on sports reference. Now obviously Dotson could plateau and this is 99% a moot point anyway but it's fun to think about.
Like @jayballer73 I don't think Bryce is a bench player. Even in this situation I think Braun still comes off the bench.
Garrett Thompson Agbaji Braun Dave is still very good. :)
Tristan, Jalen, Mitch, Tyon and Harris off the bench too... That leaves a damn good player as the 10th guy aka never playing.
My desire to watch non-ku games is close to zero this year. Maryland tOSU might be fun.
:/
SR Dotson would likely be the single greatest guard season under Bill. We haven't seen a trajectory like this at KU under Bill that I can recall. Outside of three point percentage his numbers aren't that far off of SR Frank. Guessing some people don't want to see it to hold out hope for him staying.
BeddieKU23 said:
Yup we did recruit Tshiebwe but West Virginia had the inside track with him from the beginning so there wasn't much we could do in that recruitment. Knowing what kind of player he was coming into College it's no surprise how he played against us in Allen. He'll be in the NBA next year.
Even Kentucky couldn't lure him away. Enough said.
@FarmerJayhawk Even then, Enaruna is maybe more of a wing. Close either way and I'm not looking to have a big debate about it. He is capable of playing the position no doubt.
Same story every year with Gonzaga imo.
@Texas-Hawk-10 even if he is undraftable but wants to go pro now to work on his craft more frequently while getting paid I think that is a solid decision.
His draft stock will soar just like checks notes undrafted Selden, Ellis plus second round picks Mason, Graham and Svi.
@jayballer73 you also said he has a lot to lose by leaving which is simply not true. He has nothing to lose and a lot to gain. Staying would honestly be foolish.
@jayballer73 everyone wants the NBA usually. People want to be the best at their craft. The incentive to leave after this year is to start getting paid (paid more?).
Boynton does not instill me with confidence in his coaching tonight.
@Marco referring to jayballers line. Dotson not in terms of game but draft situation reminds me of Selden. I think he is a similar pick regardless of what year he leaves. It's all about when he wants to start the pro grind. He does seem to genuinely love KU and is friends with Jalen. If we have a prayer at him returning those are good factors. I still think he is gone though.
He has absolutely not regressed. That's wild talk. Does he have flaws of course he does. Mainly his jumper but he is better this year while taking on more offensive responsibility.
You can develop outside of college. His future is in pro basketball, NBA or not.
He has nothing to gain by coming back to Kansas.
@benshawks08 not to go full jaybate but I would agree he has a leg injury.
Not worried about the chemistry of this team fwiw.
@HighEliteMajor Hey Silvio is on the roster, that's more competition than I have.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Wrinkle. Zion Harmon is reclassifying and KU is an option. He'll visit for the Tennessee game (I think)
This poster on the Maryland board nailed it...
"Seeing Western Kentucky on a kid’s list is basically his camp’s way of letting you know what they’re looking for."
Recruiting west coast kids feels like a waste of time.
Dave is absolutely our best back-up 5.
HighEliteMajor said:
That's 25 minutes of "sub" time essentially (counting Dave as the sub). Pretty low, but when Self puckers on PT, that's what we've seen in the past.
You wouldn't believe the arguments I had about this over the summer. It's like some people have never watched a Bill Self team before. Thinking he was going to really play 9-10 guys in games that matter...
@BeddieKU23 We don't have a 4 man on the entire roster. Jalen is the closest.
@dylans Fingers crossed that this team can stay healthy. Garrett and Dot still not 100% imo.
@jayballer73 correct
jayballer73 said:
Have a question. - - Someone tell me how the Seahawks wit an 11-5 record had to play at Philly who had a 9-7 record. - - No way did the Seahawks get seeded lower the Philly did they? - - How ?
Divisional winners get the home games. Seahawks were a wildcard because they were in a tougher division, it's dumb.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BShark he had more poise last yr, didn't he? I think he's really great, just expected improvement. Aren't his #'s down?
His numbers are up across the board. Raw and advanced stats.
@BeddieKU23 agree. I think the offense can be better if this happens. Doesn't require sacrificing much if anything on D either.
Dotson has been a fair bit better with higher usage to boot. Not sure what some expected. He wasn't going to morph into Steph.
whispers Self adjusted by taking the game out of Dot's hands a bit as well. whispers
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Think Marcus will guard Haliburton?
Yes
@Crimsonorblue22 if he wasn't playing how Bill wanted there would be issues. Bill seems happy with him. I've said the same about wanting Garrett handling the ball in crunch time though. Exception would be if Dot has been putting the guy guarding him in the torture chamber all game.
@dylans Not sure on Silvio. If he isn't going to play much anyway, maybe he gets more money to do so somewhere else.
That's a big thing with Dotson, he knows he has to score and create. Garrett is getting better at creating and Braun shows promise. Ochai doesn't have the ability yet and I don't see him improving his handle enough to get there this year. Moss certainly not.