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Crimsonorblue22 said:

@BShark I think the Lawson's will be out to prove themselves. I hope I'm wrong!

I think you are right, but it might be a good thing to an extent. Obvious you want to see buying in, playing as a team.

@Crimsonorblue22 It was the best descriptor I could think of. He isn't lights out, but he isn't Garrett either.

Crimsonorblue22 said:

How's kj's shooting?

Livable, but I'd bet he has been working on it.

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Dang, really makes me wonder.

Pretty clear he was forced out. Obviously nothing official will ever be said.

HighEliteMajor said:

@BShark Can you name one three point shooter that you expect to be above 37% ... that's my quandary. I can't.

@Crimsonorblue22 Seeing the best in folks is a definite and admirable strength.

I think Grimes and Moore can be above that number. Moore took a lot of bad shots at Cal.

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I think it's

1. Kansas

2-6 muddled WVU/KSU/ISU/TCU/UT

7-10 bottom of the league Tech/Baylor/OSU/OU

Grading it out exactly beyond KU is fairly difficult. Though I did put them in the order I think. KSU probably should be second but the only time he has won a league was in his first two years in a program. Bruce is, if nothing else actually fairly consistent in his mediocrity. When he often does best is when his team is expected to finish last, because that almost never happens. He has only had one losing season at ILL and KSU each. I think it's just as likely that he finishes in the wash, somewhere between 3rd and 6th.

@drgnslayr Carter was alright. He could shoot them out of games though and was a 3 recruit. Buuut being a 3 is kind of the point. I just assume at this point that the 3* players that Huggins slides into the line-up will play well enough. Like JAF said, business as usual. The Huggins machine is firing on all cylinders, I'll believe a crash when one happens.

I'm higher on ISU than @justanotherfan . I think THT is great and that Zion Griffin could be a Zhaire Smith like surprise to some people. I was hoping KU could snag Griffin but it was late involvement + Griffin and his family worried about being recruited over so he picked ISU instead. Kid just gets buckets, and extended his range over the last year. Take this all with a grain of salt because I thought they would be better last year, and the jury is still out on Prohm.

Another great class for Shaka! #8 on 247! Let's review his previous classes.: 2017 #6, 2016 #6. His win rate the last two years with these studs you ask? 39%. Oh. Well alrighty then.

TCU has more talent coming in than going out, imo and then you factor in the development of returning players. They should be better.

TTU has some decent players coming in. Losing Evans and Smith is no joke, but they should still be pretty salty. I am also high on Beard as a coach.

Baylor LOL Scotttty Drew.

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Crimsonorblue22 said:

@wissox happy bday!🎂 you guys go a long time! Our school has been out for weeks

Same here. Kiddos out in full force.

Have a good one @wissox

JayHawkFanToo said:

Here is a summary ↗ of what a NBA Assistant Coach though about Doke's needed improvements

Sounds like what we have all been saying, tbh.

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@FarmerJayhawk Fair. Having him as the third big would be pretty exciting.

@chriz That's the rub. He has really never been a good rebounder for his size. Even at the HS and AAU level. I'm not sure how much of it is effort vs instincts vs conditioning.

@HighEliteMajor I've been as concerned as anyone about 3pt shooting but I think it will be passable. Not KU the last two years or Villanova good but I see no reason the team can't be around 37%. If the inside game is as good as we think it will be that should lead to lots of open looks for Moore, Grimes and KJ. A big part will be getting Garrett up to a passable percentage but I am confident that he is willing to put in the work.

Not sure adding Silvio objectively changes much. Would be nice though.

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Yep. Low key top 5 team.

I've seen it mentioned that KU will be taking a wait and see approach. Still interested but wanting to see how that legal crap turns out.

It wouldn't shock me if Self and co held out for Hampton's decision since they already have a back-up plan on board that isn't a big difference from other PG targets. Except for Lecque. I don't think you can slow play Lecque hoping to get Hampton but we will see what the staff does. I really like Lecque's game and keep seeing it mentioned that KU has a real shot.

I could see adding Chandler and keeping KJ. It's going to be KU vs Penny of course. If Dedric ends up being NPOY (not unrealistic) that's really gotta make Chandler/his dad think.

Not seeing a truly elite wing that KU has a great shot to land. Lots of "ok" wings which make returning veteran options more appealing. Really like Williamson as a long term prospect. I feel like he just need to keep working on his body, the skills are there. Edit: Maybe Josh Green, but loads of other schools involved deep there.

Very intrigued to see how things go with KU targets over the summer. Only known top targets imo are Hurt, JRE and Hampton. Very real chance at Hurt, expect to land JRE and Hampton to Duke in 2019.

So Marcedus Leech is in fact an ISU commitment, but it's not public because of something on ISU's end. They won't say what of course.

@BeddieKU23 Could have Garrett, Cunliffe and KJ all still around and those are all guys you mostly want at the 3 or small 4. Oh also Ochai, who knows how he develops.

If we are looking at Dedric, Doke and Grimes leaving it only has to be a 4 man class, while needing at least 2 bigs. There are a lot of wild cards though. Cunliffe could be squeezed out, the whole SDS situation (plus he could go pro with a good season anyway).

@BeddieKU23 Every time I read an article about him it sure seems like he wants KU to recruit him harder.

BeddieKU23 said:

Liddell Wigginton returns to Iowa St.

Wenyen Gabriel leaves Kentucky but PJ Washington returns. Ugh

Tyus Battle returns to Syracuse ensuring another bubble year in which they make the tourney and overachieve

Charles Matthews returns to Michigan. Huge for them.

Tyler Cook returns to Iowa

Ethan Happ returns to Wisconsin

Vanderbilt stayed in the draft too.

Surprised at players like Wigginton waiting until the last day.

Texas Hawk 10 said:

@jayballer73 The starting 3 will either be Garrett or Grimes. Depends on if Self starts Moore and Dotson or just Dotson.

I could see KJ getting the nod.

From Malik Hall

Kansas: “They talk to me every once in a while, like every two weeks. Nothing super serious there but they are still in there.”

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BeddieKU23 said:

A blow to Turgeon at Maryland. Kevin Huerter stays in the draft after seeing his stock go way up during the process. Couldn't happen to a better group of fans

Not even going to be top 25 now. RIP

From Bedore

Harry Coxsome, Azubuike's mentor and family in the US said Doke decided to return to KU: "Between last night and this morning."

He said "he went back and forth with the decision. When it came down to making the decision, it weighed on him." He said he is returning to "raise his draft stock." But Harry said he is confident he'd have been taken in draft.

Comments from Self, article by Tait: http://www2.kusports.com/news/2018/may/30/ku-center-udoka-azubuike-return-junior-season/ ↗

Omari Spellman staying in the draft. Great day.

Actually, yeah gonna do it.

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BeddieKU23 said:

Great news! I was wrong. Glad to have Udoka back another season. At least 1 full time starter for Self to work with.

The bash brothers are in business- Dedric, Doke

I'm thinking about editing the title to official. Guys like Goodman, Shay and Rothstein are reporting it now.

Looks like he is going to end up with Reid Travis to solve their post problem.

I edited the thread title assuming the info is good. Lol.

kcmohawk said:

Per 810 Radio, Doke is staying at Kansas

Yep, leaking all over the place now.

BeddieKU23 said:

Not surprised this has gone down to the last day. Hoping he returns, I'll certainly be wrong if he does

Yeah, Svi went down to the last day too I believe.

BeddieKU23 said:

Donte Divencenzo stays in the draft. Big blow to Nova. No wonder Cremo went there

Yeah I feel this was set in stone when Cremo popped for them.

jayballer73 said:

another last minute. - - Has to announce tomorrow. - -I just kinda get a read nothing really to support it - -but I just get this feel he is staying in

Why meet with Self? But you very well could be right. If he got good draft feedback he can and should go.

@justanotherfan I really don't have the desire to get heavily into these GOAT discussions, but I find a lot of your posts are very on point.

Meeting with Self again, will announce his intentions tomorrow.

https://247sports.com/college/kansas/Article/It-factor-How-KU-basketballs-Charlie-Moore-attacked-his-redshirt-season-with-the-Jayhawks-118596872 ↗

mayjay said:

@kjayhawks Smart came out today with his assessment that he is worth a $12 to $14 million contract. He is a restricted free agent. We will see if anyone agrees, or if Boston ends up re-signing him for a lot less after other teams pass on a bidding war (the Moustaka fate).

It might be difficult for some teams to see his value. This will be interesting to follow.

@approxinfinity Yeah I'm not sure if anyone besides Love on the team is above replacement level.

Facts only.

https://247sports.com/college/kansas/Article/Inside-the-drill-Kurtis-Townsend-and-KU-basketball-use-to-develop-3-point-shooters-118581394 ↗

He's a fine player but that flop last night was an all-timer.

justanotherfan said:

Lebron still at the top of his game. Back to the Finals again.

Drug a bunch of sorry ass players to the NBA finals.

Hoo boy at it again. LOL

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

Jalen Wilson announcing for Michigan soon...

sucks

Yep. Looks like KU didn't prioritize him enough. Lower hoops programs are more willing to put the hammer down early while recruits are lower ranked.

Jalen Wilson announcing for Michigan soon...

So I was rewatching the Duke game this morning. 11:34 remaining in the 2nd half, Garrett screens off Marvin Bagley, who is much bigger than him to get Silvio an easy basket rolling to the rim. This is the kind of little thing he does frequently.

Also fwiw he wasn't statistically the worst overall offensive rotation player last year. That was Mitch. Mitch's defensive numbers were actually pretty damn good though, considering.

I'm guessing Garrett will start which is fine. I trust Self on this, to distribute minutes well in the guard rotation. Will be something very interesting to watch early plus see how thing progress as the season plays out.