truehawk93 said:
Ok, who says TT goes down against WVU?
I DO
That would almost wrap things up...
BShark
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HOLY SHIT SAM
Cunliffe got in there with the walk-ons. PArty is on.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
@BShark With the Doke is progressing, are we sure Dedric is going to be the best player on the team next year and not Doke?
It will be a good debate to have if Doke is back. Both will be extremely good two way players.
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KU is at 1.52 PPP. Best ever in Self era was 1.54 PPP in 08 vs. Texas Tech.
Meat Necklace watch is on.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
Did Doke just knock 2 guys down on that dunk?
R.I.P.
truehawk93 said:
I've tried to follow Romeo's recruiting news. The latest is most think IU is out. I thought that a LONG time ago. They are just now realizing that if he was going to choose IU, he would have done so. I agree. He's not going to IU.
Now it's down to Vandy and KU. He wants to play for good players. Well, Vandy has two good frosh players coming in and that's good, but they aren't proven and neither is their coach...Drew? At any rate, Romeo wants to WIN championships. I don't understand why the "experts" were so hell bent on him going to IU and Vandy. The kid will come in and play with Dotson, Grimes, Garrett, DeSousa, and Big Dave. We have a HOF coach, and we are right behind our 14th consecutive conference championship.
Now, will someone tell me, please...why would he go to Vandy?
You even forgot to mention our best player next year. Dedric Lawson.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
Newman's step back is so pretty
That was a NASTY discard.
Lets hundo ball these donks
Awesome that Josh is already coming back for games. He is good for the brand. With our OADs I feel that Henry, Oubre, Josh and Embiid all loved KU. Didn't get that vibe from Wiggs.
truehawk93 said:
Consider the source. He's not worth your finger strength. Fran knows sucking. Now why isn't he coaching? Oh...right, he is a big time bball analyst.
FORMER coach for a reason. Always. Lol. Greenburg (sp?) too.
Josh Jackson at the game and loving it.
Buster 1926 said:
Damn good recognition by Garrett on the lob. And I repeat- da lob again!
If there is one thing I expect from Garrett at this point, it's to correctly read the play and the flow of the game.
Fran Fraschilla is a huge doucher. Just said on twitter that Silvio playing well is all about OU sucking...
@Texas-Hawk-10 Could not agree more. Even if he just becomes reliable for 7-10 minutes a night that would be HUGE.
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: SILVIO HAS MORE POINTS THAN DEUCE YOUNG.
Or is it UN now @jaybate-1-0 ?
This is honestly shocking from Silvio. He looked lost before. Gotta try to get him more minutes going forward. His athleticism is very apparent.
betterfireE said:
DeSousa is a stud, but the refs are giving him all the bad calls.
Kid is showing out tonight.
Thanks Vitale, I had no idea about our recruiting class.
DCHawker said:
They are getting all of their points right at the rim...
Doke being out really hurts.
Graham also got some rest. This game is crazy.
The biggest problem for KU in the first half besides Doke on the bench was 9 turnovers. That's a lot considering OU barely plays defense.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
Nice to see DeSousa get some extended minutes with this lead.
Playing fairly well too.
@mayjay Self said he didn't deserve to start. I would agree that it is a bit silly when he plays a lot regardless...
@KUSTEVE Was it really so absurd though? Self mentioned chemistry issues. He benched Newman again deep into the season. I think it is completely fair to pose a question like that.
Per the Wisconsin 247 guy Evan Flood Agbaji was going to commit to Wisconsin after visiting but the KU offer changed everything. So we pretty much offered just in time. :grinning:
@KUSTEVE @HighEliteMajor Play nice please.
See: Bagley, Marvin.
Kcmatt7 said:
@BShark Can they tell us what players Self is telling them won't be back? Lol.
That would be nice wouldn't it? Self definitely knows.
@kjayhawks Yep I mentioned this. I saw one +30 FTA game and a couple more close to that.
Yawn.
Grimes Grimes Grimes Grimes Grimes
@BeddieKU23 Agree. We already know what Doke and Garrett bring defensively (the pain) and Dedric was elite in that area at Memphis. Nothing but positives when reading about Dotson defensively. So he just needs to be a guy. Plus having Doke plus Dedric with his crazy wingspan means we can overplay the 3 point line a bit because we have erasers inside.
I could go on about Grimes' offensive game all day, he is exciting. I recommend anyone that hasn't to watch highlights to get a feel for it.
BeddieKU23 said:
This thread is ++ right now
So is Garrett. :grinning:
Back to that potential defensive line-up for a moment. The one potential weak link is probably Grimes but I the hope is that Self can get him engaged on that end. From what I've heard a lot of it is just effort with him.
Overall I like Grimes a lot though. Great handling and vision with fairly elite size for his position especially at the college level. Has some girth to him as well, but is still quick and has a lot of body control/wiggle/whatever you want to call it. Really it's something that needs to be seen. He just has a great knack for hanging in air and finishing. Also a great feel for the game in general...like Garrett. Big big fan of getting actual basketball players instead of total projects like Cunliffe and Jamari. Grimes could probably stand to speed up the release on his jump shot. I imagine that is something the staff will work with him on. His form is already good so no issue there.
@JayHawkFanToo PG on offense, C on defense. :astonished: That right there spoke volumes to his commitment to winning and the game. He was barely on anyone's radar before he committed to KU. Old coaching connections helped out tremendously there. We were only his THIRD offer along with Baylor and SMU.
KUSTEVE said:
@BShark You're probably right. He oozes trouble. I still would love to have him, though. That guy is so lightening quick, it is astonishing.
Oh he'd be real good for us if he came here and was willing to work. He and Charlie Moore were on the same HS team for one year. How ridiculous is that? lol
I was thrilled when we signed him, everything I read sounded like he was custom made for Self. He played PG on offense and C on defense in HS. He's definitely 6'6'' now as he looks taller than Vick. Don't know about 6'7'' but he could get there if he isn't already. He is only 19 after all.
@jaybate-1-0 I'm really not worried about his handle at all. It's quite good at this stage especially considering his size. Very much agree about him being a key defensive cog. He is very disruptive and just has a great feel for the game.
Next year we have the potential to see a return to great defense especially if Doke is back. There will be growing pains with new pieces but I trust Self to get them to gel. But when you consider this line-up: Dotson, Grimes, Garrett, Dedric, Doke. Just wow... A 7 foot beast patrolling the paint, a very rangy long arms forward in Dedric (who mysteriously gained an inch coming to KU), Garrett on the wing at 6'6''+ and we have already seen how disruptive he is at that end, a 6'5'' big, powerful and lengthy 2G/CG in Grimes and a 6'2'' PG in Dotson that just talked about his commitment on the defensive end in a recent article.
@BeddieKU23 @KUSTEVE @jaybate-1-0 He is without a doubt very very talented which is the only reason I made the thread. However I think KU is currently in a place where we don't need to take chances to get talent. We saw that come to a head this year with Cunliffe who really isn't ready to contribute to winning bball and having to take Preston when the staff knew he might not ever play a game.
Forgive the title maker but here are highlights of his 41 pts in 3 quarters game.
BeddieKU23 said:
Garrett is shooting 63% on 2's this year. He's really started to find confidence in what he does well on offense. Doesn't force things.
He has 19 turnovers in 530 minutes. That has to be one of the lowest turnover rates in all of D-1. He's so valuable because he doesn't make mistakes. He simply blends in and does what's needed.
That is something like 1 turnover every 27 minutes which is pretty insane.
In his highlights and from what people that saw him play have said a lot of his jumpers in HS were off the dribble. So it's a pretty big transition to being asked to catch and shoot. He was also never really a 3 point shooter in HS, as a lot of it would be attack and then if he felt he couldn't get to the rim take a pull-up two point jumper. I don't think he is ever going to score 20ppg but I don't see a reason he can't get in the 12-14 range as a JR/SR on a really good team.
:(
Also there are some advanced stats that indicate he might just be one of our three best players. Tifwiw. It's pretty hard to measure his full value. It's possible he will be our best guard next year tbh.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
If dad is involved, no thanks.
I would bet he is. Honestly I think LoVett goes pro. He is already 21.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article200405474.html ↗
Good stuff in here. tl;dr for anyone not wanting to give the kc star hits is that Garrett does all the little things and is already one of Self's favourites.
Ochai and Malik Hall will be at the game tomorrow night.
@kjayhawks Maybe. Hard to say who is leaving. I wouldn't go after him either but figured I'd bring it up.