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BeddieKU23
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McBride is leaving KU
Woodrow said:
@BeddieKU23 You don't think every coach has told recruits why would you go play for a team that is not going to be able to play in the tournament. I 100% believe it affected the 2019 class and there is no doubt it has affected 2020.
Absolutely its impacted both cycles. I just think the headlines will really scare off any recruits for the fall at minimum now. Could be overreacting here a bit but I'm sure the national chains will pick the story up and everyone will know
Woodrow said:
I guess now we no why recruiting is suffering
If the rumors are true it will be everything going forward
Was just a matter of time
FarmerJayhawk said:
Possible reclass candidate https://247sports.com/Player/Frank-Anselem-46055566/ ↗
@BeddieKU23 I think so, but it’s so early with him it’s hard to say for sure.
Thanks. Will be interesting to see if that one goes anywhere.
Anselem is a big kid that on tape looks like he's just starting to scratch the surface.
Have we visited him?
FarmerJayhawk said:
Self was in for Moses Moody today
Any chance here??
I like how this one is trending. I personally would like to see him end up a Hawk.
Staff has been into see him a few times, the move to Oak Hill & having Dave on the team as an alum can help.
I know KK is ranked lower then some other targets but the film I've seen looks solid, personally think he's a bit underrated and the move to Oak Hill will give him plenty of visibility to possibly rise in the ranks by the end of his Sr year. He could end up a high to middle 4 star player when its all said and done.
He is a solid 2 way player with a rep for being a quality defender already. Would be interesting having a southpaw PG on the team.
KU is his first official for late night. It's not going to get any better then that wherever else he goes. Hopefully he loves the visit
Getting closer. Update if I'm missed any or others decide on their plans.
Anyway usually a big recruiting draw.
official visits on the books for 2020 class
KK Robinson
JT Thor
Unofficial 2020
Marial Mading (Juco prospect)
Davion Bradford
Bryce Thompson
Underclassmen
Kennedy Chandler
Gradey Dick
Harrison Ingram
Mark Mitchell
Kendall Brown
Walton is a big time shooter
Does anyone know when tickets generally go on sale for games in the Sprint Center?
I'm attending my first Jayhawk game December 14th (bummed its not in Allen) but falls on the same weekend as a Chiefs/Broncos game which I'm also going to. Just wondering if anyone knows when they typically go on sale, trying to plan ahead!
alwaysajayhawk said:
I'm hearing rumblings that Bryce Thompson has Oklahoma as his first choice and is probably headed that way.
Maybe Young 2.0
Duke with Okafor/Jones/Winslow won the title with freshman fueling the team.
There's enough evidence out there to suggest you can win in several ways. The freshman way has worked although usually there's still a vet or two that plays a big role. Last year was a big thumbs up for the veteran squads.
I think that trend continues into this year if I was making a prediction now. A ton of talent is gone from last year spread throughout every conference. I have a hard time picking 5-10 teams that I think will be good because there was so much roster movement everywhere. No excuses for KU this year with a veteran squad
Deshawn Corphew is transferring(pushed out) from Texas Tech after Assault allegations have surfaced.
Beard has his work cut out for him now.
Not KU but Kentucky Cleaning up in 2020.
Just got Lance Ware (PF) & Terrance Clarke- 2021 5 star stud to reclassify to 2020. This in addition to Top 10 Boston Jr & Top 50 SF Fletcher.
Kentucky will probably add 3-4 more as well looking at their likely roster full of guys going in next years draft.
KU needs to make some moves. Everyone else is
Woodrow said:
KK Robinson is down to a final 7. Arkansas, Illinois, Iowa St, Texas A&M, TCU, Vanderbilt, and KU.
Self and Townsend are going to be at Oak Hill today to check in on him as well.
Definitely keeping after him.
His final 7 would make it seem like KU has a great chance if they really prioritized him but I can't say there's any confidence that would actually play out that way given how this cycle is trending. I do think KK would be a good fit at KU. Still trying to figure out why he's a bit underrated to date. The Oak Hill change will probably give a good gauge on whether he's better then his ranking suggest
No not at all. I'm aware that many (maybe even a majority) dream of making the NBA.
Good for him if he can find a team. Too bad he didn't have his academics in order for KU to grab him at the time.
Kyree's only intentions are to get to the draft. KU is ok without that
Any concern with Love canceling the visit. We see this too much where they never reschedule?? Hopefully they lock in a new date soon. Wouldn't hurt if he came in after his others
FarmerJayhawk said:
BeddieKU23 said:
I'm assuming since we went in-home that KU is interested in him.
This is a strange cycle already. Do you get that vibe?
Super bizarre cycle. There's some rumors flying around that Cade Cunningham isn't done to Okie Lite and that UNC is actually his preferred destination. Only his brother is keeping them in contention. If that's true, could set off a domino effect of Love and/or Thompson getting pushed to KU.
Wow I would not be upset at that scenario playing out.
I don't think we can land both Love/Thompson but if Self did that would be some home run recruiting there. I'm holding onto the belief we need 1 of Love/Thompson/KK and losing on all 3 would be a bad look. We'll see how this plays out
What do you like about Kalkbrenner? I was really underwhelmed with his tape and thought he was a real project. He just really underwhelmed me as an athlete besides his shot blocking ability. Maybe he's a system guy that gets in some where and really develops. I'll check around to see what else is out there on him.
Bradford is a big dude. Seemed like someone you could mold in this system. His 43% FT shooting though was a turn off.
Muscadin seems like he could be more a 4 then a 5 unless he puts on good weight.
I'm assuming since we went in-home that KU is interested in him.
This is a strange cycle already. Do you get that vibe?
BShark said:
jayballer73 said:
Coach saw Gethro Muscaden - - from Aspin Academy in Louisville yesterday - -# 128 - - 4 * - - 6'10 -- 215 Center - lots of focus on the 70-150 type players this year - -
Kstate likes their chances with him.
Really?
I put on his tape. Has some bounce to him, good athletic ability it appears. Can protect the rim. Functional form on his jumper with range so he's a stretch type guy candidate at that height. Will need weight room. Lobs, Pick and Roll upside & stretching the defense seem like things that could translate to KU.
In all, begs the question if we are looking into a player K-St thinks they can land then what does that say about KU's recruiting right now. Has Weber found a good one? There's upside there and some translatable skills.
Window dressing. This is a KU/UNC battle
HighEliteMajor said:
So based on the BYU decision, how does KU escape? The BYU decision, if I’m looking at this from the KU bubble, seems to pave the way for the results we are fearing. This was activity by a booster.
In fact, Gassnola was much closer to our staff than the boosters in BYU’s situation. Gassnola was relied upon for extensive, hands on recruiting help.
Anyone think the NCAA did this to BYU as a purposeful precursor to the punishment decisions related to the Adidas issues?
Gassnola as we all know doesn’t have to talk to the NCAA. But the NCAA can pay him for info. But he can’t change his story so to speak from sworn testimony, e.g., Self didn’t know. Based on the BYU deal, the “Self didn’t know” defense is a weak one.
I think we have to wait for the potential NOA. It did cross my mind that this decision was in part a chess move to set recent precedent.
There are levels to this as far as potential damage and escape. A lack of institutional control charge would definitely hurt. Any language implicating Self or staff members as complicit with the Preston/De Sousa situations would be headlines we don't want to see.
The part about Gassnola & Addidas is complicated. It wasn't proven in testimony that Gassnola was acting under the "permission" of KU/Self to recruit right? Correct me if I'm wrong there. But the assumption is this was the way things got done and maybe that is the way its done across the country. If they dig into that can of worms I have no idea where that goes.
The NCAA being denied access to information from the case makes it appear like they will hit a dead end. How do you see that decision impacting what may come?
This is crazy. I assume Sean Miller was just sitting in the corner with ear plugs and his hands over his eyes during this entire escapade. SURE
Kalkbrenner has shot blocking skills but you put on the tape and you would be underwhelmed at a lot of things. Think Lucas with even less skill and mobility currently. Purdue has a knack for these types of bigs. The CB seems out of left field from someone who does that from time to time.
Missing out on Sissoko isn't the sky is falling but he was the type of prospect KU typically gets. He wasn't a can't miss day-1 type guy either. If Silvio/Dave return next season we may not have a grave need for a quality big. I do prefer we get at least 1 though. The Todd sweepstakes could be interesting?
Gassnola sentenced to Probation. I wonder if that sets in motion the NCAA's plans
Sissoko to Michigan St
Gonna be tough finding a quality big this year
BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk Thompson and Todd would be the dream scenario.
You are right though KU doesn't have to add much so it makes sense to go after high impact players first and foremost.
There's a scenario where KU returns 9 of the 13 players under scholarship right now.
What if Agbaji & Silvio do not return next season and the 5 freshman see minimal playing time due to the core 8 veterans in front of them? That would change what KU needs right? If a Sr Garrett & a Jr McCormack are the upperclassmen left that's a really dangerous situation to be in.
Maybe the staff is recruiting (without success) in an aggressive nature to make sure such a scenario doesn't happen but that's not what it appears to be right now. Boy I hope they can land at least 1 signee in the fall that has high impact potential in year 1 to ease some concerns
jhawk7782 said:
@BeddieKU23 Any guesses on how many scholarships will be available in 2020?
4 seems the bare minimum but there is a possibility its 5 or 6 which would really hurt next years team with the way recruiting is going.
3 Seniors leave for sure. Dotson is a near lock as well to jump early.
Agbaji with a big year might have a tough decision to make.
Silvio was out the door if he eligibility wasn't restored & with a big year might have some good options.
I personally think both have better then a 50% chance of returning next season but its too early to tell.
I'm hopeful we'll return a core of 9 guys after the season but anything can happen with transfers today.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Louisville OUT on Caleb Love. KU or UNC. Neither would surprise me.
Is that what your hearing or is this posted somewhere? Haven't had the time to look
Ryan over on the phog had a grim view of 2020 recruiting so far. Hearing crickets on what the staff feels confident in or even has a shot with.
It could be all about nothing or spot on.
Very weird that Mady didn't even follow through on his visit.
All the recent blurbs on Caleb Love are pro UNC.
Bryce Thompson isn't ending his recruitment anytime soon.
I would be very disappointed if we are in the spring with no commits.
KU recruited at a very high level for a very long time under Self. There's no question KU has been impacted by the FBI trials and this is the continued fall out. UNC went back to recruiting and landing the Cole Anthony & the Joel Berry's of the world as soon as the NCAA cleared them in the academic scandal. I fear KU won't be back to that level until the NCAA does or doesn't drop the hammer.
I'm not advocating for this but at some point Self may have to shake up his staff. He's been extremely fortunate to have Norm & T but very few elite programs keep the same staffs these days for extended periods of time. Fresh blood may make a difference as well. Again not saying it should happen but its an option the man in charge can make if he felt recruiting misses were a result of that
not for BYU. Good grief the NCAA is the dumbest organization I've ever seen
jeez so much for that theory
Definitely sounds like a good hire. It was needed before things got too serious back in school
He did have some very good moments his Jr year. Another year and he might have been a legend to remember. I do think he had that ability in him at the time but he choose the path that was best for him and for that his tenure here was a bit incomplete. Nice to see him sticking around the league. From what I saw of him in the past few years he definitely improved but just falls short of being someone a team makes a priority
jayballer73 said:
starting to look like another odd year in getting involved or leading for recruits -were not leading for anyone at this point. - -Going to be another year where we scramble at the end?
Bet on it. Maybe a surprise fall commit but as usual we have uncertainty at some positions with young guys waiting.
HighEliteMajor said:
Amazing how our program savior (Andrew Wiggins) isn’t on ANYONE’S list.
And no Josh Jackson. No X. No Selby. No Cliff. No Grimes.
Another that sticks out — No Selden.
Uncle Anthony gets special consideration for being that uncle. Priceless. If Wayne stayed his final year might have been on someone's list
wissox said:
@BeddieKU23 My inside source on Adam Miller (his mother) no longer works with me, but her friends tell me KU is no longer his top 5. Two Arizona schools for some rea$on that is a my$tery. If they're wrong, we're getting a great player.
Makes sense why we haven't heard KU connected with him this summer
Just a hunch. Visiting his "dream school" on a football weekend should be a good atmosphere and good visit for him. I don't know whether they tried to get him to visit later (like for Late Night) or closer to the signing period so I'm just connecting dots that he might be closer to a decision and if the visit goes well might end in our favor.
Having seen the kid play this past year on TV I wouldn't call him elite at anything. He definitely is in the mold of a Diallo or a Oscar Tschiebwe. He is a bit raw offensively but is active and gets up and down the floor, plays above the rim and can definitely alter and block shots at a very good rate. He's definitely someone Self likes to have on the roster
Man, definitely dogged one
Have some sneaky feeling we could wrap up his recruitment this weekend. No info, just a hunch with him taking the visit so early. We'll see
Great news. Self and co stole one here
Kcmatt7 said:
I liked KK's tape a lot.... Would not be upset.
Right the tape looks good and he has size, athleticism and play making ability that seems to indicate he's better then his current ranking. I wonder if his highlights are not consistent enough or something. Certainly would seem to have the talent of a Top 50 guy
FarmerJayhawk said:
Rumor is KK Robinson is transferring to Oak Hill to get more blue blood (read: Kansas) attention.
Good decision. KK on video looks a bit underrated. I would not be upset if Self made him a priority if a few other targets get caught up in swoosh money
No love for 45 year old Perry Ellis?? Kidding. He's not in my Top 10 but surprised he wasn't mentioned.
FarmerJayhawk said:
BYU is the rumored leader here, but KU has a shot.
Any idea if he is into the mormon faith?
Kcmatt7 said:
Crazy the staff didn't know about RJ going overseas until late.
Someone get them social media. jeez
Hopefully Harris can join this year. That would be ideal for the transition from Dotson to whatever options we have to play with.