Quick question how many #1's has KU beaten?
DoubleDD
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Natives are restless. Oh crap I offended the Indian nation. LOL
McCormick getting some UCLA love. LOL
HCBS looks like he's having fun. smile.
sweet
Whats the rebound count? It appears to me KU is killing them on the boards?
Arizona St. has to rely on the three.
ohhhh that was bad to the bone
Hudy sighting.
KU looking good
Excellent work as usual
JayHawkFanToo said:
DoubleDD said:
I'm not sure why you think I'm interested in how you grew up? News flash I'm really not. Haven't gave it one thought. You see one can have a haughty spirit no matter what side of the rail road tracks you come from.
Obviously you are because you keep referring to my upbringing without having a clue how or where I grew up.
Sorry stake me to the cross and burn me? I just don't agree with you and some others on blaming these kids. Kids are a product of their up brining, their environment. These kids grew up with nothing, yet we expect them to keep this moral compass you speak of. No my friend it's about getting paid, cashing in while you can.
So, they should get paid and cash in while they can without regard for rules, regulations or the law or the hardship they create for others in the process? That is the textbook definition of lawlessness.
Based on your comments I take it you believe we should allow all the underprivileged people from Central America, and the rest of the world for that matter, that come in illegally, willingly and knowingly violating our laws to stay and get benefits even American don’t get? After all the US is dangling in front of them and why should they not just break the law and help themselves while they can?
It appears I have riled you to a point of madness. Maybe it's best we agree to disagree.
You can blame the Kid, and I'll blame the system.
Have a nice day.
HighEliteMajor said:
@DoubleDD Let me guess .. it’s always someone else’s fault, right?
Well come on @HighEliteMajor even you have to admit that the system in place opens the door for these kids to take the money. We can all sit and act like Oh these kids know better, and bury our heads in the sand and deny that special benefits aren't already in place.
Funny that all these Kids that play for Nike funded AAU teams and tournaments always sign with Nike Schools? Ummm Interesting.
All I'm saying is how can you blame these kids when the NCAA turns a blind eye and everybody gets paid but the kid?
No NBA talent scout ever said we have to draft this kid because they played at KU. Folks Schools don't make these kids. These kids make the school.
For the love of God @HighEliteMajor some of these kids are being recruited before they're even in high school. Yet these kids coming from torn families and poor communities are supposed to have this innate moral compass? When society has already crapped on them? Don't believe take a drive away from the Shawnee, and Olathe schools and visit some schools down in the poor communities and tell me if American kids of different races and income equality are getting a fair shake?
I'm not sure why you think I'm interested in how you grew up? News flash I'm really not. Haven't gave it one thought. You see one can have a haughty spirit no matter what side of the rail road tracks you come from.
Sorry stake me to the cross and burn me? I just don't agree with you and some others on blaming these kids. Kids are a product of their up brining, their environment. These kids grew up with nothing, yet we expect them to keep this moral compass you speak of. No my friend it's about getting paid, cashing in while you can.
KU has yet to lose a game. Yet they have yet to play a good HCBS game. Yet Kind of scary.
The Word of the day is Yet. mmmmm
Also @JayHawkFanToo why is it so wrong? As you ride your noble horse. When coaches, agents, Shoe companies, and yes even the NCAA created a environment it's so easy to take the money? Answer me that one?
It appears from your responses you put the blame at the foot of the kids. Even saying a lack of a moral values is the problem?
So when your broke, watching your siblings and mom starve?These kids are supposed to have a righteous mind, with so many offering promises and large bank accounts. I guess your saying they should kick the their family to the curb and put the schools they are attending first?
Wow OK?
JayHawkFanToo said:
DoubleDD said:
@JayHawkFanToo and @chriz
The key word here is kids. I'm afraid you trying to compare your upbringing with those of these young superstars. As someone that has grown up in the ghetto, and have seen what goes on. I don't blame any of these kids for getting what they can. You don't put a full course meal in front of a staving person and say you can't have it then walk away. That is the problem. If the Coaches, Agents, Shoe Companies, and yes even the NCAA really cared about these kids they would fix the system. Until then I promise you some young superstar starved for a normal life with a roof over their head and food in the fridge will break the rules/take the money.
I strongly disagree with you because generalizations are dangerous and in this case, invalid. You are assuming that only poor people that grew up on the ghetto break the law and should be given a pass, both assumptions are incorrect...in my opinion. Respect for rules, regulations and the law should not be and it is not dependent on social or economical standing, it just shows the moral compass of individuals. Many of the prospects that broke the law did not grow up in the ghetto or came from extremely disadvantage backgrounds and most that grew up under those circumstances do not break rules, regulation or the law.
Look at some KU players. Devonte's mother had him when she was 14 and yet they managed to do things right under extreme circumstances. Preston, on the other hand, did not grow up in the ghetto or had extreme financial hardship and yet he and his family knowingly and willfully broke all kinds of rules and regulation because of greed.
BTW, you really don't know what my upbringing was.
You can disagree all you want too. Was your upbringing like when you called the cops after dark they didn't show up? Mine was. I don't put any of the blame at the feet of these kids. They are faced with crazy skills, yet they look around at their mother and siblings suffering. With no help coming but a government check.
Then you place a wad of cash in front of them and not expect them to not bight? The NBA is a pipe dream. So few make it. It's just a fact. In the places most of these kids come from you take what you can get. Period. The bigger picture is a pipe dream.
@JayHawkFanToo and @chriz
The key word here is kids. I'm afraid you trying to compare your upbringing with those of these young superstars. As someone that has grown up in the ghetto, and have seen what goes on. I don't blame any of these kids for getting what they can. You don't put a full course meal in front of a staving person and say you can't have it then walk away. That is the problem. If the Coaches, Agents, Shoe Companies, and yes even the NCAA really cared about these kids they would fix the system. Until then I promise you some young superstar starved for a normal life with a roof over their head and food in the fridge will break the rules/take the money.
The problem isn't Silvo. The problem is the agents, shoe companies, and the NCAA. Here you have kids that have nothing. No real parents to guide them. NO pot to piss in. Yet all they have is the ability to play the game of basketball. Yet every time they are the ones that pay the price. Coaches still get paid, Agents still get paid, and the NCAA still gets paid. Yet the kids get destroyed and get cheated out of a future of money and a education. We fans demand kids like Silvio to have this uncanny of heroism and justice. Yet we forget where they come from. Where just surviving is the main course. Some of you need to check your righteous mindsets. While you grew up in a home with two parents and played sports year round. Some kids are just happy to get home in one piece.
Who should be punished here? Really? Coaches, Agents, Shoe Companies, and yes the NCAA.
Free Silvio. Let the kid play.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
He's not the healthiest man and doesn't like to recruit. He can probably do whatever he wants for awhile.
Yea to bad he has a bad ticker. I think he's a great College Coach and would help the Big 12 a lot if he went back to Iowa St. Just don't think his physical heart can handle the college game.
approxinfinity said:
@DoubleDD this section was created in July 2017. I was not happy that the democrats screwed Bernie but that predated this category. I never liked Hillary. I don't consider myself a Democrat. I do want politicians to be accountable and I don't believe anyone is above the law.
I fully endorse your decision to take some time off from the category and get some perspective. :) see you on the hardwood threads
This may true what you say? Yet if Russian Collusion is the Flavor? Where did it start? Hillary's server? So if your so about getting to the bottom of the truth? Why are you not banging against the Dem party for not turning over their server? I mean you say you want to get to the bottom of things. Yet you have said nothing about such Dem Server. Why is that? Isn't that a key part of the investigation? I mean if a Dem server started Russian hacking and accusing Trump of Collusion. Then why not turn over the server?
OH crunch the numbers, a US president can make way more money than some Trump Tower in Moscow. Just facts? Which btw can't be proven by the DNC FBI trying to prove something that isn't there.
You talk about being fair and wanting the truth? Why wasn't Muller ready to prosecute the Russians he accused? Yea there was a Russian that wanted to go to a USA court to challenge the great Muller accusations. Yet for some reason the great Muller wanted nothing to do with that? Why is that? Just asking questions.
Just my last words on this issue. Have a good time Hating someone you can't prove nothing, but are more than willing to look the other way when it comes to someone that represents you. Just admit it you voted Hillary. You looked the other way my friend you know you did.
Guys and Gals I think I'm going to bow out on these discussions. I don't mind a good debate. Yet I'm not sure this is what we are doing. Not one of you Not even you @approxinfinity said anything when Hillary cheated Bernie Sanders for the DNC nomination, Destroyed her server, and even bleached washed it? Lets not forget in all this Russian hacking why Didn't the DNC turn over their servers to the FBI when they asked? Why? UM nothing to see there? I get you hate Trump. You Continue on, but I'm stepping out. Let me know when your willing to hold your own people/party to the same standards you hold Trump and Conservatives too.
Some one remind to cancel my Espn + account. I'll forget.
Anyway to watch the KU game without paying $5 to Espn?
approxinfinity said:
@DoubleDD you do agree that some investigations take a long time right?
14 indictments since August.
Two years? At some point you just have to say come on. On those indictments how many were for Russian Collusion? Not one. Kind of tells you something.
BShark said:
Let a crime go because DD says so.
You mean like Hillary? Where is your outrage. All im asking is be fair.
For the love of God just let it go.
@approxinfinity I'm losing faith in our system of government and the so called fair and balanced media. Please help me here. Just acknowledge this is just getting crazy. A two year investigation and still nothing? Come on. Just admit it.
Please just let it go. Two years of a investigation and still the American people have nothing of proof. It's time to let it go. Damn I wish you was so hard core about shinning the light in the Clinton Family?
From what im reading? if you don't give Muller what he wants he's going to destroy your life. Doesn't seem like justice to me? I mean your a smart man how long has this investigation lasted? I mean at the first sign of evidence Muller would be like, we got the Trumpster. This only shows me that they can't find anything and are just carring on at the bequest of the Dem party. It's been almost two years? Seriously? Look I know you hate the guy but come on really? Surely you can see the craziness in all this? Its time to let it go.
JayHawkFanToo said:
Outside of the top bowls the rest play in half full stadiums and only because is the last game of the season for both teams. If KU were to qualify and continue winning, how many fans do you thing would go to an extra 4 or 5 games? Not many. Look at the NCAA tournament, except for the later rounds or games involving elite teams, essentially all the other early round games, particularly those for lower seed play in half full arenas. You overestimate the audience for college football games.
I think you make a very good point. In pro sports and even the NFL it's so hard to prepare a trip and with tickets and travel. Thing is in pro sports there a real good chance of a home game of some sort. Meaning it's a lot easier to pack a stadium with hometown fans.
The NCAA Basketball tourney in all it's glory is really made for tv. It's really hard for fans of said schools to plan a trip if they don't know if their team is going to being playing.
Look at the so called Chiefs and Rams game that was supposed to be played in Mexico City. Too many fans were left hanging with no choice but to go to Mexico City when the very reason they planned to go to Mexico City was no longer there. Shame on the NFL.
I think a expansion to the CFP is needed. Problem is finding someone/entity to drop the coin.
I do believe the SEC gets a little more cache than other Power 5 conferences. I'm not sure if it's for viewership or just a misguided believe the SEC is just that tough. If I remember correctly when Texas A&M and Missouri moved to the SEC they handled the competition quite well. And both programs were really middle of the road programs in the Big 12.
This could be the last straw for OU and Texas. These two storied football programs aren't going to be left out of the playoffs. They'll make the necessary noise or changes. If they bolt the Big 12 would be nothing be more than a bleep on the screen of college sports.
The Pac I think is killing themselves. With the powers in California using their schools as pawns to push their political agenda on other states. Refusing to allow their schools to play in certain states and vice versa if said state doesn't accept their political beliefs. I'm not sure how serious they have been about it, but I do know the practice has been brought up more than once. The whole gender neutral bathroom issue was all the rage for a bit. With California threatening not to do business with North Carolina. Even to the point that public funded schools would not be allowed to play games of any kind in the State of North Carolina.
Also the Big 10 did kind of rebrand there conference. BG1 I think it is? Anyways the Big 10 has more weight than the Big 12. Just the Name Big 12 is a remembrance of teams lost. Where as the Big 10 has added teams. Even took Maryland from the untouchable Espn conference ACC. Anyways think about it? When I say post Big 10 what do you think? Power conference that adds teams/schools. Now what do you think when I say Big 12? A conference that has lost teams, and is only in holding together because Texas says it must. Well just my thoughts.
My thinking is? If we are truly moving to a al carte world. Then the names of the past have no weight. In fact they maybe a drag on future media dollars. As so many were getting stuck paying for something they didn't watch. My thought or thinking was the Big 12 could take advantage of the situation. Being innovative. and jumping out to the front and embracing the al carte movement. I don't know may be I'm crazy. It just seems to me the viewers love new ideas.
As Espn is getting a smaller budget to work with year after year, and Fox is looking to sell to the highest bidder. The money just isn't their anymore for conference realignment. CBS stood tall when the SEC came calling for money. Rejecting the idea that just because you added another team/school we have to pay more.
Thing is the Dust has settled. Everybody is taking a wait and see approach. The dynamics of how and what we watch are changing. With the advancements of technology it appears at least for the moment al carte is knocking on the door. The days of the mob mentality of the Big 10 and SEC maybe over. Making people pay for something they may have no interest in watching.
With this being as it is. It's time for the The Big 12 to rebrand it's name. It's almost laughable to keep branding yourself as the Big 12 when you only carry 10 teams and have no chance of recruiting any big schools to the conference. If by chance conference realignment fires up agian. It's going to be the Big 12 that gets raided again.
So try and save what you got. Change the name. Rebrand yourself. Hell call it the Fly over confernce. Anything but the Big 12.
And Research
@wrwlumpy you are truly a MVP. Love these topics. Can't tell you how much I love your work.
I'm just shell shocked. Might have to go into the bomb shelter? KU getting serious about Football. Is the sky falling? Has the rapture taken place and I missed out? Did I wake up into some alter universe?
Chiefs and Rams game moved to LA ↗
Kind of wandering if is this right place to move the game. It's a Ram home game but with all the fires out there? Not sure.
BigBad said:
8 for 8 was great but I was most impressed by his drive and dunk. He has never driven enough for my taste.
That was one nasty dunk. I was like OMG. smile.
Vick was almost 10 for 10 from three land. He took and made 2 with his foot on the line. Dude was on fire. Maybe the forced number change has got him fired up?
I can't figure out why it's taking so long to name the next coach? Why fire a coach still in season if you don't have another coach on the line. Rumors floating the reason Miles hasn't been named yet is because of his last contract. I guess he gets a big pay day at the end of the month. Yet man KU needs to get on that recruiting trail.
I feel the offense will be fine. KU put up 80 with what many would consider a bad shooting night. However the problem if there is one. I think might be on the Defense side of the ball. It's not so much effort or the desire of the KU players as it maybe more scheme. So many schools are going with small ball. Makes it really hard for a player like Doka.
Coach will have to figure this out as I'm afraid it will rear it's ugly head again. Toi many schools are going with the 4 and 1 or in some cases all 5 players out.
anybody have a Ice pick I can borrow? I need to stab my ear drums out. Is this Espn or some sports station in Vermont?
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