BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
@jayballer73 Thor will visit. Not sure when. Could be Late Night.
Not much will happen with Brown unless (until?) he reclassifies to 2020.
Would we want Brown - looks like he might be a project - -4 yr player - -any info on him?
All I really know is he’s very large and very Canadian
Which Brown?
Javonte.
KU -3.5 seems low to me, even given the condition of the roster. Counted the roster numbers by class. We have 47(!) upperclassmen and 22(!) underclassmen. Ideally those numbers would be flipped. So we're 16 short of 85 and have half the underclassmen of most programs. We still have FCS-ish type scholarship numbers and won't be able to add on net until this year's juniors graduate since Beaty took so many JuCo and grad transfer kids on blueshirts. Phil Steele's numbers have Beaty's % of recruits as transfers at 50%. Not ideal.
The talent is better than it's been in previous years, but still only a handful at max get sniffs in the NFL. Still extremely short on depth, especially in the defensive front 7. I hate that we're going to have to play Terry at NT instead of redshirting him but there's really no other option Even if we have 2 we feel ok about, they won't last all year and Terry will have to take some snaps. In a perfect world, Sam Burt steps up and gives us 2.5 options so we can use Terry in 4 games. Same with Potter at ILB. Crazy stat: Les Miles has signed more HS DT's than David Beaty at KU.
We absolutely need a QB to step up. I like our OL (though the right side freaks me out some), RB's, and WR's. The RB trio is one of the best in the league and Les's finds at WR have really impressed. Quan Hampton and Evan Fairs, both coming off RS's, will have an impact as well. It will all be somewhat moot if we don't find a serviceable QB. Word out of camp is MacVittie just hasn't been able to pick up the offense as quick as they'd hoped. Stanley is further ahead as far as executing the offense at this point, but he can't do most of the things MacVittie can, especially running the ball. His accuracy has also been inconsistent. I bet both play week 1, neither looks great, and we win something like 31-20.
Coastal actually could be the easier game. Pooka will be back and they're going through a coaching transition after a losing record last year. They're also not up to FBS numbers yet after coming up in 2017. Last year they played one P5 team (S Carolina) and lost by 35. They're still a young team and really struggle throwing the ball. If our defensive front holds up it could be a blowout.
Honestly, I think we get housed at BC. They feel like a 7-8 win team to me. They can really run the football, so I can't see us hanging with them for four quarters. The final score likely won't say how close the game was. I could see something like 34-17.
If we win the games we should in non-con we've got a shot at 4 wins. I can see 5 if I REALLY squint. But I like the O/U at 3.5 and I'll take the over. I think we beat WVU and KSU in the league. WVU is the least experienced team in the league, and we get them as our first league game. KSU is also going through a coaching transition, but is a much more veteran team. They're not as talented as WVU, but Klieman can coach. They don't have much depth on defense, so that one could be just who can stay upright longer.
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
@jayballer73 Thor will visit. Not sure when. Could be Late Night.
Not much will happen with Brown unless (until?) he reclassifies to 2020.
Would we want Brown - looks like he might be a project - -4 yr player - -any info on him?
All I really know is he’s very large and very Canadian
@jayballer73 Thor will visit. Not sure when. Could be Late Night.
Not much will happen with Brown unless (until?) he reclassifies to 2020.
Hawk8086 said:
@FarmerJayhawk @BShark
Is there a heavy "swoosh" influence at work with Love?
Haven’t heard of anything out of the ordinary.
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
KU gets the last visit for Caleb Love. October 12-13.
Sounds like UNC is the runaway favorite however.
Bossi thinks Kansas. I’ve heard the staff likes their spot as well. Visits will be huge.
KU gets the last visit for Caleb Love. October 12-13.
Got tipped off earlier today this would happen. Rumor is it’s the reorganization of the medical staff but can’t say for sure.
Marco said:
@FarmerJayhawk Jesus Christ, what kind of monster is he?
Not going to hype him up too much but he may be the best HS prospect since Durant.
Marco said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
If KU pushes they can get him. Robinson and McBride are tight. But he’s also down the board a ways.
I say we sign (no-brainer) the most high-profile point that we can get. Bill runs pretty much a three-guard set, I get that, so question. Do you think McBride and Harris are more than serviceable? I.e. can they as sophomores get us to where we want to go, which is always a conference and national 'chip? Where do you think they will play? 1, 2 or three? Who do you think we have more than just a chance to sign? If you say Nix - despite some of my posts - I would certainly not be disappointed. I want Thompson bigtime but he is a two, I'm talking PGs.
Trotting out Harris and McBride as our starting guards next season would absolutely terrify me. Harris is an old school PG. He'll only play on the ball. McBride is more versatile, but it'll be hard to have them both on the floor given their slight stature. KU has a good chance (i.e. I think KU is in the top 3, will get a visit, and could close) at Thompson, Nix, Miller, Love, and Robinson. I think they want at least 2, maybe 3 of that group depending on how the youngsters develop.
My preference is Nix and Thompson. Both have great size and have complementary skillsets. Nix a traditional PG (probably the best passer in HS basketball) and Thompson is a scorer who can really shoot. Love is right behind them given his stupid wingspan (6'9), athleticism, and developing offensive game.
Kcmatt7 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Can’t emphasize this enough. We HAVE to make progress on the field (4+ wins) to keep this group together. There will be a lot of schools keeping tabs on our guys trying to poach if things go south.
They absolutely have to win the first two games.
And then they need to win 1 of the next 3. BC, WVU, TCU. If they get swept here, I think it'll be almost impossible to win 4 games. And, truth be told it would just be extremely deflating for everyone.
And then the other win needs to come from Tech, KSU or Baylor.
No doubt. Can't lose to a FCS school right away. I think we beat WVU and KSU. WVU is down on talent and has a new staff, plus we're at home. If Les breaks the Big 12 road losing streak this year I'll pitch in for the statue.
Adam Miller will visit KU. Date TBD. KU or Illinois, right?
BigBad said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
99% chance the kid from Michigan is Emoni Bates.
Bates will NEVER step foot on any campus so it would only affect his high school eligibility.
Exactly.
If KU pushes they can get him. Robinson and McBride are tight. But he’s also down the board a ways.
@Texas-Hawk-10 again, that’s just not accurate. If he accepts a basketball scholarship (he’s been offered a football scholarship) and plays a football game, he counts toward football. That’s the point of the NCAA guidance that established a hierarchy.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
@FarmerJayhawk A player counts for whatever sport he accepted the scholarship in. it's actually not that rare of an occurrence. It's fairly common to see a football player also run track. You also see football players play baseball as well on a fairly regular basis.
You said you would eat a basketball scholarship with him to have him play football. What you implied is that he would come to KU on basketball scholarship and be a walk on for football which is what my response was based on.
If the kid wants to play both sports at the collegiate level, then having Miles allow him to walk on with basketball the way Sosinski did awhile back could give KU a leg up in possibly landing the kid if Auburn, Bama, or any other program recruiting him wouldn't allow him to play both.
The NCAA says you’re wrong. There’s a specific hierarchy of sports in which the scholarship counts. https://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/tam/genrel/auto_pdf/comp101-4-multi-sport-sas.pdf ↗
So if you know the rules better than the people who make and enforce the rules, I’ll take their word for it.
Basketball, volleyball, and football play by different scholarship rules than other sports. They’re headcount sports, so you can’t split up scholarships like you can in almost all the others, considered equivalency sports where money is the unit of analysis, not student athletes.
Can’t emphasize this enough. We HAVE to make progress on the field (4+ wins) to keep this group together. There will be a lot of schools keeping tabs on our guys trying to poach if things go south.
99% chance the kid from Michigan is Emoni Bates.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 if he’s on football he counts only toward the football count. It’s so rare I had to look up the rule.
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
New basketball offer: https://247sports.com/Player/GaQuincy-McKinstry-46052990/ ↗
Twist being we want him for both basketball and football since he’s a 5* corner.
PG as well? That would be awesome.
Yessir. Probably a walk on level basketball player but I’ll eat a basketball scholarship for a starting corner.
New basketball offer: https://247sports.com/Player/GaQuincy-McKinstry-46052990/ ↗
Twist being we want him for both basketball and football since he’s a 5* corner.
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
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You called this earlier I believe
Yessir. Beat our friends to the west for him. Props to Coach Hull.
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Rumor is the 29th for the premier.
Also an academic thing involved. Oregon doesn't start classes until October so he has more time to get everything finalized.
HighEliteMajor said:
dylans said:
Besides it was a accidentally racist rule made by a committee on basketball that knows nothing about the inner workings of basketball.
What? Please help me understand how the rule is accidentally racist.
I assume he means the disparate impact standard, which I believe you and I agree is garbage. The newish thing is to declare anything that adversely affects minorities more than whites is “structural racism.” Since Rich Paul is black, the disparate impact standard would theoretically apply.
@justanotherfan for sure. As of today we have more guys than spots in 2020. It'll all get sorted out, but far cry from the days when Beaty found 10 randos and blueshirted them all.
Gorilla72 said:
@FarmerJayhawk - and they play n a weak conference. They’ll probably win the Pac12.
Agreed. Especially since Brandon Williams is out for the year at Arizona.
No doubt there. Oregon is going to be sneaky good. Really good shooting on the perimeter with Pritchard and Mathis, and a very good frontline with Juiston (if healthy) and Dante.
N'Faly Dante to Oregon in 2019. Look out below!!
Bossi still thinks Harris makes it to campus and redshirts. That makes a lot of sense, given McBride has been around all summer and has a big head start.
Harris hasn't even been announced by KU yet and isn't on the roster. He's got 2 weeks to get here.
@BShark very true. And Harris may not even play this season. Gordon is going to be a giant pain in the ass for 3-4 years.
If Zion wasn't paid I've got a house in Durham to sell you
@nuleafjhawk I've heard this Thursday, the 15th.
@dylans and we gave away several to guys who exhausted eligibility before their scholarship even counted toward their class. Unless it's a total home run, blue shirting grad transfers is maybe the worst thing you can do to build a roster. I don't mind the practice in general since you can end up with guys like Mike Lee and Hakeem Adeniji. Just have to be careful about how many you take and the fit.
@nuleafjhawk based on @BeddieKU23's report that he just switched shooting hands (he's actually left handed) then it won't be impossible to build up a new stroke. Just takes time and good reps.
@Crimsonorblue22 Oh for sure. If it doesn't, he'll be at risk for splinters in his arse. Good thing we don't really need him as constructed. Speaking of, haven't heard any updates on Harris joining the team and the first day of school is the 26th (I always forget it's much later back home than out east).
We all should maybe pump the brakes a bit on Enaruna. From this summer via Jon Givony, "Enaruna's team was relegated to the B Division, but the Kansas-bound combo forward did demonstrate quite a bit of potential with his combination of physical tools and versatility. Enaruna was one of the most physically gifted players at the event, standing over 6-foot-8 in shoes with a proportioned frame and a wingspan exceeding 7 feet. He made a number of highlight plays over the course of the week showing elite body control and explosiveness creating his own shot, operating above the rim and being a difference-maker defensively when locked in.
But he went through long stretches when he looked disengaged, couldn't buy a basket from the perimeter (5-of-36 from 3) and demonstrated poor shot selection and decision-making. His jumper looks smooth at times but stiff and unnatural in other moments. He seemed to have some kind of mental block at the free throw line, hitting just 21 of 42 attempts. Enaruna's ability to generate offense with a powerful first step, long strides and polished footwork is intriguing at his size, but he'll need to continue to improve his playmaking ability on the move and finish through contact.
Despite the criticism, Enaruna is a tantalizing talent with a skill set not all that dissimilar to Kevin Knox. It will be interesting to see how quickly he can contribute for Bill Self at Kansas."
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Another one! https://247sports.com/Player/Chris-Jones-46080333/ ↗
I'm sure his FSU offer was not commitable but gaht damn. Get kids like this now and try to hold on.
Or FSU is a raging dumpster fire and Taggart is getting canned in 4 months.
But yeah, it’s a terrific get. Have to win actual games now.
Another one! https://247sports.com/Player/Chris-Jones-46080333/ ↗
KUSTEVE said:
I just want to say it once...FRIDAY....THANK GOD IT"S FRIDAY!!!!!
Now, back to your regularly scheduled basketball conversation...
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@jayballer73 this kid got a CB pick from 247's national football recruiting guy. We may have to change Easter to Saturday in Lawrence. https://247sports.com/Player/Ben-Easters-46058152 ↗
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@Kcmatt7 I was going off KBOR's tuition and fee schedule for the 2019 academic year: https://www.kansasregents.org/resources/PDF/Data/AY_2019_State_University_Comprehensive_Fee_Schedule.pdf ↗
I also included fees since to most students they're indistinguishable from tuition and are funded in largely the same manner.
You don't have to get me started on the publishing racket. My goodness. It's a horrible coordination game where professors need to publish in certain journals to stay employed but the publishers of said journals charge about whatever they want because they know the demand is there. My position has long been that if research is federally funded, it should be free to the public. Re: faculty salaries, I very much wish we all made that much. Faculty is the one area where schools are cutting back. Tenure track employment isn't growing at all (actually shrinking as a share of faculty employment) while underpaid adjuncts are ubiquitous these days.
The real bloat is in administration, where it seems like there's almost one assistant dean of X for every individual student. I did a little rough analysis of data from the Delta Cost Project and found that spending on actual instruction was essentially flat from 2001-2015, but spending on student services rose by about 20% over the same period. We absolutely have to do something about all the stupid federal mandates that schools use as excuses to hire more and more admins while skimping on the things that actually matter. The Title IX guidance under President Obama is a good example. Seems like every department on campus has a person that just does Title IX. Funny story out there about 2 people who, the morning after a drunken hookup both ran to the Title IX office to report an assault since the person who files the report is all but immune from any consequence while the accused could have his or her life ruined.
We also have to consider the role of state divestment in the universities. The state spent (in nominal dollars) $75 million less on the university system in FY18 vs. FY08, even though credit hours taken is basically flat across the KBOR system. To keep a lid on tuition, the state needs to maintain its investment in the universities and the schools themselves need to rethink some aspects of their business model.
@Marco nobody here supports "free" college. That whole idea is one enormous moral hazard problem, where if the schools know they have guaranteed income ad infinitum (because let's be honest, the federal government is really, really, really bad at controlling costs except in health care where the just undercut the private market) they have every incentive to get as much of the ever expanding pie as they possibly can and hire more assistant deans to sit behind a desk and think of new and exciting ways to make teachers' lives difficult. The real losers? Students.
I honestly have no idea how much higher education "should" cost, other than less than it does now. There are so many forces pulling on those prices (many of them not supply/demand) that coming to any kind of equilibrium would have its own issues.
@HighEliteMajor almost entirely agree. I took a break from empirical work to write a philosophy/ethics paper on why universal school choice in K-12 is the most moral thing we can do to break down barriers to equal opportunity. John Tomasi's work in that area is worth a read, specifically Free Market Fairness https://www.amazon.com/Free-Market-Fairness-John-Tomasi/dp/0691158142 ↗
Tomasi and I converge in thinking that as long as we're treating primary and secondary education as a positive right (i.e. "right to" something) the question then becomes how do we best provide it? I've argued for something like a universal voucher scheme where schools compete for students but cannot deny anyone entry (unless they've previously been expelled or something) and must meet quality standards. It's not all the way thought out and polished yet, but I think it's definitely an improvement over the status quo.
I'll also add KU provides as much or more merit aid in 4 of 5 achievement categories (ACT + GPA). KSU has a much better deal if you're a 29 ACT, and that's about it. I believe KSU offered me marginally more aid just because of extracurriculars, but KU's base was higher. The two schools always fight about it and it's pretty funny.
@Kcmatt7 KU is less than 10% more than KSU and about 25% more than WSU. Much of that is higher faculty salaries for KU than KSU, and much higher than WSU because they just play in different sandboxes. Research institutions charge more all around the country because their mission is different.
To drive the efficiency point home, I was part of the effort in 2017 that mandated every single public university in Kansas hire independent firms to conduct efficiency studies that will be made public and presented to the Board of Regents and the legislature. Looking forward to seeing what the private sector folks come up with. I really hope they turn out better than the giant study the state commissioned, because it was a steaming trash fire.