What if Garret is in to guard Ward? A recent story on the Phog has Garret as being able to play 1-4. Yes, he would be giving up inches but bigger guys tend to have problems with smaller, faster players guarding them and KU is not counting on Garret to generate much offense anyway. So, if Garret, who is a very good defensive player, can disrupt Ward’s game enough to get him in foul trouble early, could end up being a great strategic move.
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I agree. If $3M is all it will cost them then it is very doable.
His contract was renewed this last August and was for 5 years. Most contract indicate that if fired for cause there is no payout but otherwise the reminder of the contract is owed. Now, if he wants to go somewhere he can buy out the reminder of his contract for a year’s pay, typically. If he is “retiring” voluntarily then the payout might be considerably smaller. It will be interesting to see how his departure is officially alleged since it might have heavy monetary implications. If the buyout is only $3M then I just can’t imagine KSU not doing it
Likely the last hurrah for both coaches, certainly for Beaty, but looks more and more like it will be for Snyder as well.
The extension was likely a prearranged parting gift. He made $3.45M this season and it goes up by $300K the next two seasons and has 2 more seasons after that, so he will leave with a $15M buyout. The KSU Athletic Department will take a heavy hit.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@JayHawkFanToo you and your juco "issues"!
Not every player that goes to JuCo has issues but then, these are not Division I caliber players. The Division I caliber players in JuCo are there precisely because they have issues otherwise they would be playing for a Division I program, right?
Some issues can be as simple as a family situation or academic where a low GPA, ACT/SAT score or lack of credits prevents admission or in some cases could be discipline or character issues that keep recruiters away.
KU and KSU have only one winnable game left and it is against each other; the loser finishes at the bottom of the conference and in KSU's case places Snyder in the super hot seat. Losing to KU and finishing last might be what finally drives Snyder into retirement. Lots of unhappy fans in Manhattan that want to move on from the Snyder era, preferably with ALL the Snyders gone.
Ben has been unlucky going from one bad team to another and then back to the really bad one. He has been a great KU ambassador and has done a lot of good work off the court. Condolences to him and his family.
The Maryland HC job is available although it seem radioactive at this time but probably the expectations will be lower at the start.
Dude is going to be a serious program contributor when it is all said and done.
That is quite true. Kansas JuCos is where Division I caliber players with "issues" go to atone until they are ready to move up. Not a bad pipeline. Having said that, I believe Weis recruited the top JuCo player and a couple of other top prospects that turned out to be busts...those "issues" sometimes are hard to overcome.
What I have contended is that “uncorroborated” does not mean “disproven” and that there is a lot of circumstantial evidence supporting an in-depth investigation, and that the issue of a supreme court nomination merits taking sufficient time. The guy who should welcome one if he is innocent has been protected by shoddy Committee work and a perfunctory FBI investigation.
Actually, the majority of her claims have been disproven. How many in-depth investigations must there be? Wasn't he subject to several previous background checks (6?)? Didn't he indicate he welcomed an in-depth FBI investigation? Didn't the latest investigation not interview dozens of witnesses who not only did not corroborate her and other allegations but actually disproved them?
Now, if by in-depth investigation you mean one that would have lasted until the mid-term elections when the Democrats were hoping to win the Senate so he would not be confirmed...then no, the results of the investigation would have been the same since it has been done ad-nauseum and there is nothing left to investigate but a democrat majority would have rejected the nomination all the same.
You are pushing a narrative with no merit, You remind me of Richard Pryor when he got caught by his wife with another woman...
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Well...
The KC Metro are is not fertile grounds for basketball either and yet KU manages to recruit nationally to an environment that is much farther removed from that of the top players.
KU coaching longevity history is actually quite good for the winning programs such a basketball where it probably has the least number of coaches in the P5 Conferences. If we find a football coach that can win reliably he will stay a long time,
Fans will be there when the team wins. During the good years under Mangino the stadium would regularly sell out and basketball games have been sold out for as long as I can remember. If the football team starts winning fans will be there. Look how excited we were here...a basketball forum...when KU won just two games.
For some reason, Andy Putz is not a fan of KU...must be the ESPN thing...:smirk:
Texas has always been, is and always be a football school first and every other sport a distant second.
Vick is the only KU player to have played against MSU in the Champions Classic and Vick and Mitch the only two that played against them in the last game in 2017. Most of the players really don't know much about the history or rivalry between the teams.
I agree. Texas has had as many or more NBA caliber players than KU during Barnes tenure and nothing much to show for it. Even Smart has continued to get top players and has done even worse; I bet UT fans are wishing Barnes never left.
Andy Katz has his pre-season brackets ↗ and KU does not make the Final Four losing to UNC in the Elite 8. I guess he did not get the memo that KU owns UNC in the NCAA.
OK, I should have written the Senate Judiciary report based on the FBI report and now you are going on and on on semantics rather than on the content of the report (based on the FBI report) that overwhelmingly contradicts the testimony of Ford and others about alleged wrong doings by Kavanaugh.
Did you read the part where someone else came forward and confessed to a consensual situation very similar to that cited by Ford but did not involve Kavanaugh? Of course not, it does not fit your narrative and you will continue to defend the indefensible despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
You are asking me to suspend reality, take two alleged statements and disregard the mountain of evidence to the contrary including allegations she made that proved to be false? You remind me of this NBC announcer...
No worries. Coach Self will pull a rabbit from the hat...he always does.:smile:
To ESPN, Zion is this year’s version of Trae Young. They will build him up and then spit him out.
The Ramirez case is presented in great detail in pages 14-17. A number of sources are cited and a number of individuals were interviewed and none would corroborate her story, in fact quite the contrary....of course all these pesky details will never be enough for some people. SMH.
If you do not want to read the entire report, perhaps you could read this summary ↗ about one item that had gone unreported until now.
Interesting that the only person that Ford “told” the name before Kavanaugh was mentioned as potential supreme was conveniently her husband, all others you mentioned happened after he went into the short list of potential nominees.
Just about every single assertion Ford made was uncorroborated by her own witness or rebutted by a number of other witnesses and some were even pressured to change testimony and now they are rightfully being investigated for tampering with evidence.
Again, you can believe whatever you want to believe even when the overwhelming evidence points the other way.
By the way, in 2012, 2013 I mentioned to friends that a college basketball coach at a well known program was going to be nominated to the Hall of Fame and in 2017 I did tell someone it was Coach Self.:smirk:
Here is the entire FBI report ↗. Looks like none of the accusations could be even remotely corroborated. Read it (if you have the time) and form your own opinion,
Here is Coach Beaty’s statement ↗; pretty classy.
The last KU game is on Friday November 23, so I expect the announcement to come about one week later or at the end of November or very first part of December.
Maryland is currently a bigger dumpster fire than the MU basketball program was. Even the basketball program there is in trouble and Turgeon’s seat is rumored to be hot and getting hotter.
KC stations ↗ reporting but citing another station as source so reliability is suspect.
I guess what I was trying to say is that under the conditions outlined the current philosophy would be to hold the ball but now there’s is the incentive of shooting the ball wit a couple of seconds left and try to get to the cap limit.
The reverse could also be true. Say KU is ahead by 20 with lots of time left there is no incentive playing starters as long as the margin stays over 10 points. Perhaps a sliding cap with the value decreasing as the margin increase would be a better approach rather than a hard cap.
My point was more along the lines that in Kansas in a good year we might have 3 or 4 P5 level players to divy up among the 3 top schools.
8 Michigan players...must be nice to have that many in-state options.
Style points? If a team is ahead by 7 points with the ball and with 15 seconds on the clock, is it going to hold the ball or try to hit a 3 to reach the margin of victory cap? Inquiring minds want to know.
Woodrow said:
@Wigs2 it’s not just about a coaching change. It is about a culture change. This program needs a reboot.
Absolutely agree with you. A good deal of the KU fan base seems to be of the opinion that because it has an elite basketball program a mediocre to average football program is all we can expect. Yes, at this time the floor is pretty low but he ceiling is the same as any other P5 school. I also understand that a much longer and steeper set of stairs is needed but if it had started building slowly a few years ago the program would be much closer to the ceiling than to the floor. KU needs to find a superior coach and pay him accordingly and move on. I seem to recall reading that in recent years KU has paid more to (former) coaches for not coaching than coaches for actual coaching; this trend needs to stop and the culture needs to change.
approxinfinity said:
@DoubleDD Obama didn't separate children from their parents with no means of reuniting them.
That is not quite correct. The original regulation was enacted during the Clinton administration, ratified and amended during the Bush administration and enforced during all the administrations including the Obama and Trump administrations. Most of the photos that have circulated recently were actually taken during the Obama administration. It is only after Trump became president that the liberal crowd became outraged by something that has been going on all along; why is it that it did not protest during the previous administrations?
WVU beats Texas and eliminates any chances it had to make it to the final four. WVU and OU will meet the las weekend of the season and more than likely at the Conference Championship game as well. If they split the two games for all practical, purposes both teams are eliminated. If one team wins both games then it has a decent shot to make it to the Final Four with some help from other teams, of course. Barring any upsets, Alabama, Clemson and Notre Dame will likely be in with a number of other teams vying for the last spot.
Texas and Oklahoma will be looking for style points towards a potential bid on the Final Four so it will not be pretty.
Will the firing and hiring be announced at the same time?
Let the man leave with some dignity and then have an assistant coach act as interim HC and blame the situation as an excuse for the spanking in the last two games. This will not be a Mangino-like firing when there were off the field issues, this is just a W-L issue. It also sends a message, to anyone that might be even remotely interested, that the Football HC position at KU is officially open.
Was this game the last straw as far as Coach Beaty? Will he be let go now or wait until the end of the season? Will he be allowed to coach against KSU which is the only game left with a chance of a win?
I say he is allowed to coach the next game and if KU wins he is allowed to finish the season but a loss to KSU and he is probably fired right afterwards and spared the two likely spankings against OU and UT. Thoughts?
Unfortunately both Lawson are not very athletic but Dedric is considerably more skilled and his 3 point shot seems to be here now.
K.J. is still trying to find his place in the team and in many ways he is like a Swiss Army knife, average/good at a lot of thing but not very good at any one in particular, at least not yet. Hopefully he can focus on areas where he can contribute or fill a void and go with his actual rather than perceived strengths. He will come around and contribute before his time at KU is done.
I am not choosing to read one side or the other, I read whatever comes up on the search until I have read enough...and if you are familiar with Google it is bound to bring more liberal leaning items at the top of the search anyway.
Like I said, the only consensus I gathered is that there is no consensus and that a SCOTUS opinion is needed to decide the issue once and for all.
Are you saying now preemptively that if the SCOTUS rules that birthright is not part of the constitution you will not agree/accept? I am perfectly happy to go with whatever the ruling is and call it the law of the land.
Offense is too predictable and the couple of times when receivers got wide open could not hold on to the ball.
Whatever good will was built last week is gone now.
Try googling "JayHawkFanToo"...
The dropped TD passes were momentum killers.
I see what you did....I like it. :thumbsup_tone3:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
I'm a lil bummed guys, nobody going to defend me here?
I will. As far as I know, @Crimsonandblue12 has always identified herself as a female - one of two in this Forum that I can think - mother of two kids of whom she is rightfully very proud and I only recently learned that her husband had passed at young age.
I can only speak for myself, but I suspect most member feel the same way, when I say that to me it does not make any difference how she identifies. I have learned a longtime ago to see past the labels, be that gender, race or any other, and see a person just as that, a person and not a label or stereotype and, even when our ideologies are at times quite different, we always will have our love for the Jayhawks in common. :smile:
I have read probably 20 different papers by constitutional lawyers and professors and many cite verbiage similar to yours but to support the opposite argument and most seem to lean towards not granting citizenship to children born of individual who were here illegally.
The one things that is universally agreed is that there is no agreement and certainly not a definite answer on the subject and it is about time that the discussion be moved from the political arena to the forum where it belongs which is the SCOTUS....I guess we can both agree on this, right?
Vick is going to be the second “go to” scorer.
See my post above. The decision you mentioned was based on the fact that his parents, at the time of his birth, were “legal immigrants. Kids don’t just pop up out of nowhere, they are born to a woman and the place of birth AND the status of the person giving birth are the criteria. Look at the only other decision the Supreme Court made on the subject that ruled a Native American was not entitled to citizenship because his parents were subject to the jurisdiction of a Native American Nation and not the US.
Again, this is something that the SCOTUS needs to rule now and this exactly what Trump is forcing them to do. Agree or disagree, their decision will be the law of the land and will settle the issue once and for all.