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FWIW, here is an account of the episode as related by someone that was at the game. It was written by a lady that is a good friend of the person that posted on Facebook and whom I know personally and I can vouch for.

This post is from someone that sat 2 rows behind Lynn at the Kentucky game.

"This post seems to be shutting the "opinion droppers" down on the subject of Lynn Marshall....and it's the truth as I saw it In Indy!

I have posted on every story I've seen and feel the need on this one too. I sat two rows behind her. Yes she was cheering, yes she was passionate. I never personally heard the f word come out of her mouth or any other type of profanity. Maybe I missed it but if I did, how bad could it have been? I was right there. What I saw was the security person come over and asked her not to stand on the chair. She was standing and turning around leading cheers. We all stood the entire game except for time outs. I think the security guy asked her two or three times not to stand on the chair. She got down each time. Guys, this whole thing has been blown out of proportion. It is fake. Even the video I have seen showed nothing except what I just described. You also have to understand that there was a small section of maybe 500 Shocker fans to about 15,000 Kentucky fans. The entire tournament was a home court advantage situation with Louisville, Dayton and Kentucky within a short driving distance so we were outnumbered. We were ALL cheering as loudly as possible and we were in that game for those kids to win until the buzzer sounded. My face was numb from yelling so loud....we were all exhausted and sick for our team. They were awesome!! Every person was so proud. We all yelled passionately and I may or may not have uttered a superlative of my own from time to time. I feel for Lynn...it's her life....she lives and breathes the effects of the things that have angered us all in this tournament. The crappy seeding, the bad calls, the blown opportunities....that's sports!!! I think she is great and did not mean to be anything other than supportive. It's unfortunate that someone tweeted a lie, then someone expanded and wrote a story and that story has gone viral and is overshadowing the great season these kids had, the classy way they represented Wichita and our University. I don't care where you are from, that's why we were ALL in that arena....to support our kids, our City and our school and to enioy the game of basketball! Anything else is just FAKE NEWS! Fist bump to you Lynn, we are SHOCKERS!!"

As I understand, no alcohol was sold at the arena and there is zero evidence that she was drunk, used the f-word or racial epithets as some have alleged.

You can take it at face value or ignore it altogether. I guess it comes down to the word of rabid UK fans or WSU fans in attendance. Given the history of racism in Kentucky, including their beloved Adolph Rupp, it is obvious which side is more likely to have brought up the racial epithets; you can draw your own conclusion. I personally believe that being exposed first hand to innuendo by the local paper would makes more hesitant to do the same thing the Star does...maybe it is just me.

@wissox

No question he is a competent player but at that size he might be fast but likely not quick. By this I mean that in the open court he covers a lot of ground with that huge stride and can move pretty fast but in the first 3-5 steps most players would be faster. Against Vermont he played 16 minutes and had 8 points and the tallest player for Vermont is 6'8", against ISU he played 15 minutes and had 14 points and 6'8" Young and Bowie are their primary bigs.

@dylans

I guess there will be a lot of "Balls" in the air...

@wissox

Acuil is 7' and thin and does not have the bulk of Haas so he is faster and a lot more athletic and a very good shot blocker. Last season UC Irvine had 7'-6" Mamadou N'Diaye and 7'-2" Ioannis Dimakopoulos...KU won by 25. Duke has 7 Players between 6-'9" and 7'-0" and several likely a lot more talented than Haas. Texas has Allen at 6'-11 and Banks at 6'-10". UK has 4 players 6'-10" or taller.

I would say that most teams KU has faced had at least one 6'9" player or taller and many had much taller players. Haas, at 7'-2" is probably the tallest/bigggest player KU will see this year but by no means the more athletic or better jumper or blocker or faster big. I see Swanigan as the bigger concern.

@kjayhawks

The Baylor front line is very tall and a lot more athletic sand much faster than Haas, for that matter, TCU also has a tall front line. Lucas has been successful against both and I don't see why he would not be able to handle opposing big players.

You have to see this play by Mason... ↗

I can't imagine Purdue wanting to match up Swanigan with Jackson. They are almost the same height but Swanigan has very long arms and a big girth and has a 7" advantage in standing reach; however, the maximum jump for Swanigan is only 29" and I will guess Jackson is at least 12"-15" higher, so net advantage to Jackson and he is much faster as well. JJ can probably front him and deny entry passes to him.

I bet the match up Purdue wants is Swanigan with Lucas where he can use his outside shooting to draw Lucas out; however, to do this, Purdue would have to play a 4-1 like KU and KU would have a big advantage because of the superior guards. I am curious to see how it works out.

@mayjay

No need to apologize (even sarcastically), we are in place where we all have opinions of our own and they don't always agree. Again, Norlander has the right to his opinion and I have the right to mine and I also have the rights, as does everybody else, to disagree with his opinion. We are all big boys and we can state our cases, form our opinions and draw our own conclusions.

Interesting that Norlander would seed Gonzaga #1 when he is picking Arizona to beat them and he is picking KU to win the Tournament... ↗ironic, isn't it?

@mayjay

I did not say I cared much about who is number 1, I simply disagreed with his premise that Gonzaga is #1. The NCAA apparently agrees with me since it ranked KU ahead of Gonzaga at the start of the tournament and KU has played much better than Gonzaga since then.

Reseeding is typically done to reflect how the teams left are playing since the start of the tournament. If you are going to use the entire season...why reseed? Isn't this what the original seeding did?

Using the entire body of work should actually work against Gonzaga since it played in the weakest conference of any of the teams in the Sweet 16 and it is the only team left while the Big 12 has 3 teams.

We will find out soon enough how good Gonzaga is...

@nuleafjhawk

LeBron would be forced to use his favorite go to move...flopping...

@mayjay

I do not agree. Villanova was the overall #1 seed followed by KU at #2; Gonzaga was the overall #4 seed. Gonzaga beat S. Dakota St., a #16 seed with a 18-16 record by 20 points in the first round, the same margin KU beat the much higher ranked Michigan State in the second round. Gonzaga had to fight hard to beat a pedestrian Northwest team by 6 points.

Gonzaga struggled in its second game while KU dominated both of its games. I am thinking WVU will expose Gonzaga whose record is built on smoke and mirrors and a weak conference.

CBS reseeded all the teams ↗ and has Gonzaga as #1 claiming they only lost 1 game...I want to see WVU spank them silly and show them for the overrated team they are. KU was the overall #2l seed and considering the first two wins, there is no doubt KU should be #1.

@dylans

I was thinking the same thing but I was hesitant to say it. Kudos, you did it very diplomatically.

@jaybate-1.0

I believe the NCAA has instructed CBS to minimize showing bad calls by the refs and since they already showed 2, this would have made 3 bad calls in a row.

@brooksmd

In this day in age nothing much short of walking away...

@Texas-Hawk-10

I am sure CBS determined what was the schedule that would minimize audience and went with it...enthusiastically.

If you have an issue with CBS, then take it up with them. Here is where you can contact them. ↗ I am sure they will be happy to hear how you school them in TV scheduling and marketing.

@brooksmd

The spirit is willing but the kidney is weak?

@Texas-Hawk-10

Please read my post. I did not say the NCAA knows what it is doing, most of the time it does not. I DID say CBS is in the business of maximizing viewership but they might not have had a choice as the schedule is mandated by the NCAA. OTOH, maybe they have information that they have a larger viewership in the East and Midwest than the do on the West Coast. I certainly do not claim to know more than CBS about maximizing viewership so it would be ridiculous for me to tell them they are wrong.

Maybe it is a petro-shoe conspiracy. :smiley:

@brooksmd

Josh and Vick are freakishly athletic and Devonte, Mason and Svi are not that far behind.

@drgnslayr

I am familiar with the technology but I really don't have much use for it personally.

@Texas-Hawk-10

Do you think CBS would purposefully sabotage its own ratings? Keep in mind the order of the games is predefined well ahead of time by the NCAA and CBS might not have had a choice. Networks are in the business of maximizing viewership and they probably know a thing or two we don't know...and Dan Rather is not around to walk out if games go long...the old timers in the Forum will know what I am talking about.

@Crimsonorblue22

The NCAA would open itself to one gigantic law suite if they blatantly lie. Seems to me like the UK fan site reporter was probably embellishing the story much like the Star does with KU.

@Crimsonorblue22

Hudy has made sure his body is ready. KU needs a shrink to deal with his psyche...

@drgnslayr

Landen is by all account smart, personable and likeable and seems to understand the game well; remember last year players chose him as the big with whom they wanted to play. I can see a coaching career as a possibility.

@mayjay

The NCAA has denied the accusation ↗. BTW, apparently no video recording is allowed on the bowl section from 30 minutes before the first game until 30 minutes after the last game so the radio reporter in question was in violation of NCAA strict rules and no question trying to create controversy...which most certainly did.

@approxinfinity

I have only checked the West bracket and I am not sure how well the East is doing or how many members it has. Perhaps the group with less member can move to the one with more? I would certainly be willing to do it since it is really not that difficult or time consuming.

Two of mine are tied for #5 but the one at #14 has a much better potential. We shall see...

Any chance of merging the groups?

@Hawk8086

Bragg is not mentally ready. His body is ready but his mind has not caught up.

@Texas-Hawk-10

Not really. Prime Time on the East and Pacific is 8-11 PM instead of the 7-10 PM that we are used in the Central and Mountain times. I bet CBS has it set up to maximize viewership in ways that we don't know and the NCAA might have a say on it as well...they always do.

Here is how one KU players feels...

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@BShark

High BBQ IQ does well on my deck...:smiley:

@BeddieKU23

Bolden has played a total of 5 minutes in Duke's last 5 games and scored 0 points.

He has played a total of 157 minutes and scored 37 points the entire season.

In comparison Azubuile played 142 minutes and scored and 55 points. Coleby played 117 minutes and scored and 39 points.

Do we really want Bolden?

@wrwlumpy

Sagarin has KU by 1.5, Massey KU by 3.5, Vegas opened at 4.5 and it is now 5 for KU. I take KU.

Gonzaga favored by 3 points over WVU. I will take Huggie and the points.

Baylor 3 point favorite over USC. Take Baylor.

@mayjay

Kind of like this in reverse?

@mayjay

ROTFLMAO...

@BShark

I saw the video a few times and i have had some other friends, none a WSU fan, look at it and it looks like a fan, a very loud fan cheering for her team. Yes she was loud and to the opposing fans obnoxious and at the end of the game obviously dejected but it this was crime then MU and KSU would play empty arenas...MU already does anyway.. A drunk buffoon? that is over the line...in my opinion, of course.

If there were f-bombs as alleged, I am sure that there would be hundreds if not thousands of videos of her since everyone has a cell phone nowadays. I have yet to see any evidence of that. If being a loud fan is that bad, should we place Uncle Anthony in that category as well? He was loud and to opposing fans, obnoxious, but we tough he was funny and cheering for his nephew.

Like I said, criticize Marshal all you want but let's leave the family out of it. We hate it when the KC Star dogs KU, let's not do the same thing with the wife of the coach of a team that is not in our conference and we don't even play.

@REHawk

"Might have more than something to do with his occasional facial demeanor. Looks like a guy, who when so moved, could make me nervous in his vicinity on a lonely midnight street."

If this is the case, I bet Frank Martin makes you wet your pants...😂

Wiggins is a legit star in the NBA and so is Embiid...when healthy.

@approxinfinity h

KU shot 14 of 15 from the FT. I can't reacall anything better in a long time.

How about when the MSU player shoved Jackson off the court while chasing the ball? This happened after two bad calls and CBS chose not to show a replay. Also, Bridges bumped Jackson's shoulder hard while heading to the sideline and a MSU slammed the ball hard...both should have been called as Ts, considering the one they called on Vick.

The best bracket ever... ↗

I would respectfully suggest we keep the families out of our threads. Involving the family is what UK fans do and I would like to think we are better than that. Just my opinion.

@drgnslayr

I don't agree on comparing Swanigan to Towns or Davis, he is not in the same league. Towns and Anthony had a lot of scorers around them so it was not their primary roles to score. Both were #1 picks and have you seen them in the NBA? Town and Davis pretty much score at will and both are both candidates for POY and future Hall of Famers where Swanigan is projected to be a late first round pick and will end up as a journeyman in the NBA.

@dylans

The spoofers I have access to allow you to program any IP you want. Not that complicated to get list of valid IPs from all over the world; this is how spammers operate.

Like I said, the proper (I am not saying it is right or encouraging it) is to write a script that accesses the site with random IPs taken from a list and then capturing and decoding the "captcha" text which should be fairly simple since it uses undistorted characters and would always be in the same place in the screen as is Mason's name and then vote. I would further use a random interval generator (piece of cake) so all the votes do not come say every 10 seconds so time a pattern is not created.

I personally do not think the write in vote will make a difference; Perry won it las year by a bunch and did not get him the award.

@Crimsonorblue22

Yes...comfortable over GQ.😂

@drgnslayr

Engineering school...'nought said.

@Crimsonorblue22

I wasn't either, simply naming the best dressed coaches. Frank Martin is a big guy and it is difficult for big people to look good and wear comfortable clothes...and you need to be comfortable while on the sidelines.

@Blown

Yep. Jay Wright in college and Pat Riley in the NBA are the GQ standard.

@Crimsonorblue22

I take it you loved as in funny, ha, ha. His suit was hideous, in the words of some of my guests (females); the guys did not even notice it.

@wrwlumpy

Basil Smotherman listed under stats but not on roster. Jacquil Taylor and Matt Haarms listed on roster but not on stats, I take it they are red shirts?