Davis air balled a 3 with the lead and 40 second left in the game...it could be costly...
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Going down to the wire...
You are correct, my typo...
I was trying to make sense of it myself and I found a story about Michigan Coach Harbaugh ↗ skirting the law and the article indicated that basketball had the rule for a while.
Here is one where Coach Izzo was fined for hiring someone for a Summer camp ↗ that indicates the bylaw was enacted in 2009, I seem to recall it being called the Chalmers Rule at the time.
Here is another link ↗ with more detail and mentions the fathers of Chalmers and Manning specifically. Hopefully the link will shed some additional light.
One would think that the school has looked into this and figured out a way around it. I bet Washington will not be happy if this happens and might decide not to release him of his LOI because of what could be consider tampering. If I recall correctly, Devonte's previous school would not release him if he signed with UNC State because of the alleged tampering.
The man that cannot stay away from the spot light just picked KU to beat Michigan and he has UNC and Duke in the finals. He jinxed KU when he picked it before so I am glad he picked the two ACC teams this time around.
Davis up 52-43 with 12 minutes left.
I believe the NCAA has a bylaw that prevents "Individuals associated with a prospect" (IAWP) which included parents from getting employment from the school for a period starting 2 years before enrollment until 2 years after the prospect has left the school.
Has this been confirmed? Has Washington officially released Michael Porter?
UC Davis up 18-9
How about the Porters? I will guess that the father will wait until a new HC is named and he decides who he keeps. I would not be surprised if other programs make a play for the father-son package but the NCAA will be looking closely; I believe they now have some rules in place that might make it more difficult. but there is always a workaround.
I am convince that at this time his problem is more mental than anything else. He has the build and skills to be a superior player but his mind is just not in the game and his confidence is low. If I were Coach Self I would get him a session with hypnotist. :smile:
I remember that game vividly as I watched at a bar at the Airport in Los Angeles, waiting to catch my flight home...should have caught an earlier flight.
Sorry, I am done with that...
Sorry...I broke down and against my better judgement filled a couple of brackets on the KU Buckets group...I know, I am asking for stress...Dang March Madness. :smiley:
The 3 year itch?
Apparently he got a 7 year $21M contract...he must have one hell of an agent since it is a considerable increase from Cal and he is leaving Cal in poor shape, bumped in the first round of the NIT, 3 of the top 4 scores and 6 seniors leaving and Rabb headed for the NBA...as bad a rebuild job as MU...
You do underrated that writing "John" instead of "Jon" makes a huge difference, right?
On the other hand...never mind.:frowning:
I believe you posted that before and I was not sure if they still dd it. Thanks for the assist.
Yep. He officially told Cal he was leaving for another school and that he wanted to get closer to home.
IMHO he is way overrated. His record at all 3 schools is just about the same and hovering around 0.600. He translated his one good year at Tennessee into a potentially better job at Cal where his team just got bumped out in the first round of the NIT by CSU Bakersfield ..really?
His overall record is marginally better than Haith and mostly because he did better in conference play although he does not have the baggage Haith had. Like I said, MU would get an up and coming mid major or lower major coach at around $2M and this is exactly what it got. definitely not a HR hire or even a triple or double, perhaps a bloop single with potential for a double is a better description...I am sure MU will scream is an HR though.
Excellent memory.
Dude...you are all over the place. You need to carefully read my post to see what I actually wrote. First, you asked if I knew who Jon Sundvold was and, anyone in this board that has followed the Big 12, knows who Jon Sundvold is and hence my comment about knowing who Jordan and Magic are as well; I guess I should have used the sarcasm font.
Now, who is this "John" you are talking about? Are you referring to "Jon" Sundvold or some anonymous John Doe you know? Your apparent incorrect spelling makes it difficult to follow what you are saying or who you are quoting since you provide no evidence to support your claim or links to the information.
Now, what does Counzo Martin have to do do with Michael Porter? Are you perhaps thinking of Lorenzo Romar who coaches at Washington where Porter commuted? Michael Porter is not from East St. Louis, he comes from Columbia, Missouri, home of the MU Tigers and Martin comes from East St, Louis, ILLINOIS.
You see how your comment are all over the place and since you provide nothing to back them up or links to your information it is hard to take them at face value. You will notice that most serious posters in this and other forums, typically post a link to the source of the information so other posters can determine for themselves the validity of the information. It certainly would help if you cite the sources and provide a link to the information you present; not really that difficult.
Now, if you want to indicate that Martin has been offered the job and apparently accepted after notifying Cal that he was leaving about 1 hour ago, you cite a link like this. ↗ See? Easy peasy.
Yes and I believe Texas does that the same thing now.
I remember when Nebraska fans used to come to Lawrence for football since it was the only way they could watch their team live.
Spot on. No clear favorite and as wide open a tournament as we have had in a while.
Schools like Dayton decided it was too expensive and not practical to have a Division I programs and be competitive so they play in a lesser Division (I-AA, Pioneer League where they do well and are competitive against similar programs and still have a quality Division I basketball program (A10). Both, the A10 and the Big East, are primarily basketball conferences with no football. and work well for that type of school.
The report indicated that right of the bat, Cessna Stadium would need $20M of improvements and a new practice facility would also be needed at at cost of $20M. Also, Division I requires a certain number of scholarships so they would also need to add more women's team for Title IX compliance; Division I-AA has lower requirements but I am not sure the AAC would like to have member with a I-AA football program. It is more likely they would extend an associate program membership in basketball only so they can have 12 teams and 2 6-team divisions...I can see this being a more realistic offer.
WSU becomes relevant in basketball for a few years every 20 years and then goes back to being blah. The perfect storm for WSU with several classes of outstanding players might be over soon, particularly if Marshall leaves and then it is back to being an also run. Being a commuter school does not help since it does not develop the following that bigger schools have with resident students. In short, many thing working against starting a successful football program at WSU..
His body is 6'-10" 225 pounds but his mind still is 6'-8" 190 pounds.
Young thrived on contact, Bragg shuns contact...just sayin'...
Here is a list ↗ of the predictions by ESPN analysts...
Allen Fieldhouse Mountain?
I was not comparing either League to the NBA, I simply indicated that the Euro League is considerably better than the Australian League. The ultimate goal of players in the Australian League is to graduate to either the Euro League or the NBA and not that many have done it.
Most of the Aussies playing in the NBA...Bogut, Dellavedova, Mills, Simmons, Bairstow...came here to attend college first or were drafted from the Euro League (Ingles). I believe Exum is the only player that came straight to the NBA after playing in the Australian League since he was 15.
The D-League has considerably more talent than the Australian League and Ferguson would have played much better competition ...but a lot less money...
Wichita has been talking about adding a football program for a long time and every single time it has been shown to not be feasible due to cost and availability of resources. The state currently has a tough time supporting two Division I teams. With all the resources available, KU has had a rough time getting the program back on track and WSU would have an even harder time doing it. Adding a third Division I team would further dilute the already meager state resources.
Here is a link ↗ to the most recent study done (June 2016) about restarting the football program at WSU; you can read it and draw your own conclusions. It would require a substantial investment up front and the Koch family favors basketball and I am not sure they would invest in football the required $40M-$50M to start the football program. The State Budget has a a huge shortfall and public money would likely not be available, so all the money would have to be raised from private sources.
Do I know who Jon Sunvold is? Yes, I do and I also know who Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson are. Are you saying that Jon Sunvold is being considered for the position? Jon Sunvold was arguably the best player at MU and played in the NBA and now sits on the board of regent at MU but he not only has zero coaching experience, he is also 55 years old. MU is not going to pay $4.5M to a 55 year old former player with zero coaching experience. I can see him being considered for AD...but for HC? No way.
At this point, the best option for MU is Larry Drew who has coaching experience having served a the HC for the Atalanta Hawks and the Milwaukee Bucks and Assistant Coach for the Lakers, Pistons, Wizards and Nets in the NBA. He is currently the Associate Head Coach for the Cleveland Cavaliers, he is originally form KC Missouri.and his salary would be in line with what MU can offer.
The other candidate would be Cuonzo Martin that got his start at Missouri State and there are rumors he is not happy at California and his salary would be acceptable to MU. Scott Drew and Tom Crean have also been rumored to be in the MU wish list and that is exactly what it is, a wish list; going from Indiana or even Baylor to MU would be a demotion and I seriously doubt either would do it.
Mike Anderson did reasonably well at MU but Haith and Kim Anderson were utter failures and chances are MU will end up hiring an up and coming mid major or low major coach in the $2M salary range. Like I said. don't believe everything you read or rumors you hear, do your own research and ask yourself it is makes sense.
Dayton is more likely to end up in the Big East since it fits all the qualifications. A very good basketball program with a long history, in the right geographic location and most of all Catholic, which is requirement to join the conference. The AAC is an 11 member conference with Navy as an associate school just for football which as we all know is the big money maker.
There is no chance of UConn moving to the Big East since they are not a Catholic school. Remember that the Big East was formed by all the Catholic Schools on the original Big East separating and then adding othre Catholic schools such Creighton, Xavier and Butler; I just don't believe they will change the rules now..
KSU wins one for the Big 12 over the ACC.
I did not say they are, simply that if they do it could be a game changer. Remember Perry? He had a pretty non-descript freshman year until the conference tournament when he turned the switch on and never looked back and as they say, the rest is history.
We have seen at times flashes of what, Bragg and to a lesser extent Coleby, can do but they have not been consistent. Again, I don't know if they will do it but I certainly hope they do.
NC State was not that long ago a top tier program and it could go back to being one with the right coach. I can see why Marshall would be interested; no doubt it is a much better opportunity than Missouri which now has fallen a low as it can and will take a long term commitment to get it back to respectability. I am not sure MU is at a place where rebuilding the basketball program is a priority; I would think that football would have priority since it is only a couple of bad season away from when it was good.
Very interesting and well through out post. I do have a few questions that hopefully you can answer.
First, if I recall correctly, Pomeroy defensive efficiency was at one time a lot higher, I seem to remember in the 70s and now it sits at 30 which would appear to indicate that defense has improved as the season moved forward and had the team played better defense earlier the number might be lower.
Next, the conference is better this year than last and teams cannot overlook any opponents and bottom of the conference OU can beat WSU on the road and KSU can beat Baylor on the road and at a neutral site. OSU is currently ranked as #1 in offensive efficiency by KenPom. Nobody could have predicted that KU would win the conference by 4 games, I certainly did not, and yet it managed to do so against all odds. Luck alone cannot explain the result so it appears that KU, like most great teams, does not need luck since it apparently makes its own luck. This is an extremely powerful argument since it shows that KU can close the deal in close games, something that was missing in past teams.
Last, Mason has had a season for the ages and winning the Title would not only validate his season but the team's as well. This is powerful motivation to move forward in a format when one bad game sends you home. As you mentioned, guards win tournaments and KU has a great, arguably the best, although the center is still the Achilles heel if Lucas gets in foul trouble; luckily KU also has two 6'8" players that can compensate some. A good tournament by Bragg and to a lesser extent Coleby could be the ultimate difference.
I don't believe WSU can join the AAC since it does not have a football program. All 11 schools have football programs and they also have Navy as an associate school in football only to complete 2 divisions, East and West with 6 teams each. I really don't believe they would take a basketball only school since football is the big revenue generator...but I could be wrong.
There are only two conference where WSU could move up to that would be an upgrade. The Big East which is now all Catholic schools so forget that, and the A10. They cannot join the Elite 5 conferences or even many mid-majors because they do not have a football program. WSU is not going anywhere any time soon.
Now, Marshall does not make $4M, he makes $3M. Next, who says MU would have no problem offering him $4.5M? This is more than what Bill Self makes. It is easy for people to say MU would offer $4.5M but the funny part is that they never say who is going to pay it. Kim Anderson made $1.1M per year and MU is not going to pay the next coach 4 times that salary. MU has big issues and a $30M shortfall in revenue due to decrease enrollment resulting from the unrest there. It would be suicide for the administration to offer that much money when they have such a big budget shortfall. MU is just not an Elite basketball school, Frank Haith made $1.6M while at MU and the next coach will most likely be in the $2M range which rules out the top coaches and leaves up and coming mid-major coaches as the likely candidates. Now, Conzo Martin makes well under $2M so he would be in the MU range.
Again. you cannot believe everything you read, journalists have become lazy and no longer do research before spouting non-sense and sports forums posters are even worse.
There is no way Marshall considers the Missouri job. He is already one of the top 10 paid coaches and I don't believe MU would comes even close to matching what he makes now, but more importantly, Marshall has passed on much better opportunities. Martin? Maybe but not Marshall.
I understand all major schools circulate all kinds of big names but it does not mean the coaches are even remotely interested.
...or win the first one? :smiley:
I am considering not doing any bracket this year, it takes away some of the fun but a lot of stress as well.
Ferguson did not pay in Europe, he played in Australia. Big difference.
I was able to login to the link I proved above with my cable provider info and now I can watch all the games in any device.
Archie Miller is consider the best of the up and coming coaches. Calipari mentioned him on the brackets broadcast and indicated he is a coach that can win at any level. He has done extremely well with limited talent, runs a very clean program and he is very likeable; he is like Marshal with a better personality.
I would like to see
WSU - We play mad Vs. KSU - We play harder
...and the winner takes on KU - We just win
Because they are owned or have agreements with CBS. TNT is pretty standard on most basic cable packages; TruTV not so much. Of course if you don't have cable your are SOL. However, there are good news. I believe all games will be streamed live, so as long as you have Internet access, and who doesn't, you should be OK...now, if you don't have Internet access your probably cannot read this post anyway and someone should tell you to find the nearest sports bar.
I believe the multi channel deal is for the Final Four only, when they have each team with its own announcers in different channels (TNT, TruTV) and one main broadcast on CBS with the offcial announcers.
For NC to make a comeback it would have been through Tyler Hansborough and Aldrich completely neutralized him in the first half and helped up the lead to 40-12 and it was 44-27. at the half. However, UNC made a comeback in the second half and pulled within 4 points, 54-50, with over 11 minutes left before KU pulled away again with Cole playing several minutes during this time. I don't believe you can underestimate Cole's contribution.
Isn't the SI cover the kiss of death? All 4 #1 seeds are doomed.
I m with you. Brad Stevens would be my first choice but I am not sure he would leave the NBA. At this point, I just don't see a KU grad or former assistant that could replace Coach Self in the near future; in 10+ years, hopefully some of the ones that are starting out could be near ready.