CB announcing he will test NBA waters on Sunday - per twitter
@mayjay said in KU/Big 12 NBA draft decisions thread:
You don't need to get into the lottery. Just the 1st round to get guaranteed money, right?
If they get CB AND JWill back, they've got as good of a chance as anyone since that Florida team. Would get to keep pace of play from a season ago. A really good situation to put talented freshman in.
If they don't get CB back though, it'll be interesting. Would need some guys who didn't see a lot of time last season step up big. Would need the freshman to live up to some of the hype. Likely will need a transfer player to be an All-Big 12 player.
I do think Bill is about to do some things never seen before... Back to back would be a good start.
@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:
As expected. Believe Ohio State and Seton Hall are the front runners however.
Seems like he's way under the radar. Has a SMOOTH stroke and is bouncy.
@BShark said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
@rockchalkjayhawk said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
@NormRoberts said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
Just because Mj Rice is next level strong already doesn't mean he cant shoot. He can shoot. As Self described him when he commited he is a Pure Scorer. He was at Oak Hill putting up numbers on a sorry Oak Hill teamthen transfer to Prolific Prep. Gradey is a Pure Shooter who can go to the NBA right now and be a above 40% shooter but have to work on Ball Handling more to be the complete package
Not a shot at MJ and his skill, but looking at the bigger picture for team needs. 3 pt shooting stands out as a need to me, that’s all.
There is a 41% career 3 point shooter over three years in college on mostly tough step back looks as the primary scoring option for his team that is interested in KU.
We pray Bill looks past the lack of athleticism and that he comes out of the draft.
I also think it is important to note that he finished 2pt shots at like .550 the past two seasons. Which bodes well for his transition to B12 ball imo. He might only finish at like .480 or .490, but that's super solid.
@BShark said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
@rockchalkjayhawk said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
@NormRoberts said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
Just because Mj Rice is next level strong already doesn't mean he cant shoot. He can shoot. As Self described him when he commited he is a Pure Scorer. He was at Oak Hill putting up numbers on a sorry Oak Hill teamthen transfer to Prolific Prep. Gradey is a Pure Shooter who can go to the NBA right now and be a above 40% shooter but have to work on Ball Handling more to be the complete package
Not a shot at MJ and his skill, but looking at the bigger picture for team needs. 3 pt shooting stands out as a need to me, that’s all.
There is a 41% career 3 point shooter over three years in college on mostly tough step back looks as the primary scoring option for his team that is interested in KU.
We pray Bill looks past the lack of athleticism and that he comes out of the draft.
Also rebounds really well and passes the ball. Just a good player
Has CB officially put his name in to the draft? 3 days left.
@rockchalkjayhawk I suspect that the shooting will sort itself out. .340 is the worst shooting team Bill has ever had. Still ended up with a 2 seed.
Majority of the time he finds a way to get the team around .380 from deep.
@approxinfinity said in 08 guards appreciation:
@Kcmatt7 i think it makes sense that they were on the same team, as a lot of those steals were jumping passing lanes and they were both great on ball defenders not to mention the bigs and rush guarded well so there were lots of passing lanes to jump.
Yea maybe. I still think it is just insane how good that team's D was.
Imagine this team we just watched this season getting 3 more steals per game.... It just sort of blows my mind.
@BShark Are you locking in Harris/CB/?/Wilson/Clemence rn for starting 5?
How were these two men on the same team?
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@BShark said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:
@Kcmatt7 said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:
@Jethro said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:
@Kcmatt7 said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:
Yep - can confirm they are in full meltdown
I know I shouldn't enjoy this so much. This is like xmas for me!
Then I think you'll find this particular thread quite entertaining...
https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/ss-appreciation-thread.368369/ ↗
So this title has other implications. :skull:
The other implication also works with the thread tbh haha. Sad sacks.
Need to change their description for the forum.
"Like 4chan but for Kentucky Basketball"
@Jethro said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:
@Kcmatt7 said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:
Yep - can confirm they are in full meltdown
I know I shouldn't enjoy this so much. This is like xmas for me!
Then I think you'll find this particular thread quite entertaining...
https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/ss-appreciation-thread.368369/ ↗
@BeddieKU23 said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:
Wow that's the single worst fanbase. Sharpe was expected to do this the entire time.
If Diallo could shoot even slightly it would have happened with him too. I don't know how they didn't see this coming.
UK had an open scholarship and figured adding another NBA player to the checkbox was worth whatever they would spend on him. That is their recruiting pitch.
Yep - can confirm they are in full meltdown
@BeddieKU23 said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:
Shaedon Sharpe who was the #1 recruit in the 22 class, enrolled at Kentucky for the Spring Semester and will now enter the Draft and stay in.
Good grief
LOL I can only imagine the meltdown UK fans are having.
This announcement has twitter absolutely roasting Coach K rn too which is an added bonus
He knows Bill about to go on a tear.
In all honestly, he was a likable guy. Basketball is worse without him.
@BeddieKU23 said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
But unless he comes without daddy its a hard fit
It is a one year marriage. I’m sure we’ve had worse… or as bad
@BShark said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
🐦 View Tweet Buckle up boys @BeddieKU23 @Kcmatt7 @FarmerJayhawk
Imagine just asking him to play like a wing instead of whatever tf that Memphis offense was…
This is the crown jewel of the portal this year.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Kansas safety Johnquai Lewis is 8th football player to transfer in 5 days:
Lawrence Arnold in. That one really sucks. Probably need two portal WRs now.
This one stings... Staff just needs to hold on a few more weeks.
@Gorilla72 said in Kansas safety Johnquai Lewis is 8th football player to transfer in 5 days:
??? Why so many all of a sudden? Is the incoming class that good?
I would imagine Spring practice and activities showed some guys they're bench players. And the reality is that you don't really come to KU to sit the bench...
@BeddieKU23 said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
They taking it as well as KU fans took Bryce or Grimes leaving?
I do find this situation a bit odd. As you mentioned he stuck with ISU even after his coach was fired, had to establish a new relationship with TJ & then played under him and led them to the Sweet 16.
It was already social media rumor that Hunter was being courted by other programs without being in the portal officially. Now he's in and its high bidding time. Not sure that's someone I actually want from the portal. We all see he's a really good player that's going to get better but from an 8 foot view it certainly seems like he's chasing a bag more then chasing other things. Who knows.
I fully think loyalty is to the biggest paycheck. But he'd be locked down here. It would be either the NBA or stay for three seasons. And he plays his ass off so I'm good with it. Not like a guy who has talent but plays when he feels like it.
@BShark said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
@Kcmatt7 Ha.
ISU, maybe correctly so, puts quite a bit into football these days. It might be a struggle for them to maintain relevancy in basketball unless they divert more there.
Personally I rather enjoy KU's appoach to limited funds. Be great in basketball.
The brand recognition alone from having an actual top tier program vs. trying to be Wisconsin-lite is a no-brainer to me.
I've got a feel good for you @BShark - Mrs. Kcmatt7 is with child... And on the same day I got to see the heartbeat for the first time I hit my first (probably only) hole-in-one of my life. Funny when you have a day you pretty much know is going to be one of the top 10 days of your life no matter what.
ISU fans are cracking me up still. Hunter obviously went to ISU, without ever stepping foot in Ames previously, for free. And he stayed with the coaching change, for free, because he loved that school he's never seen in person so much.
@mayjay said in KU Twitter/Memes:
@Jethro I just meant the amount of hyper-analyzed disgust for their own coach. Too familiar.
Obviously a guy who has finished 3 of the last 4 seasons in the top ten, been to 3 national championship games, and won one can't win a National Championship.
Also I don't feel bad for ISU at all.
70% of their points last season came from transfers. No chance Brockington ended up at ISU for free.
@BeddieKU23 said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
Have to feel for ISU here, legit tampering going on. Just how the game is going..
Having said that. Sup Tyrese!~
It does take 2 to tango though. I'm sure the Hunter's were pretty receptive... If not proactive.
The only thing I'll say about Dennis - we do sort of need a 3 and D guy on this roster. Not necessarily a sniper, but you saw how that role helped with JCL and Moss. And neither of those dudes could defend. If he can hit 3s at a .380 clip and bring a spark on D, I'm interested.
There are not a lot of minutes left to give out. If Dennis wants to spend his 5th year as a mature bench piece, I'm good with it.
@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
KJ's shooting form looks way better lately... @BeddieKU23 @Kcmatt7
Would be a really good problem to have if he can just hit a wide open 3. That problem being how tf do you get everyone minutes?
I think being at KU should be a very good barometer for KJ and his mom. If he can't get on the floor here isn't going to go pro. Bill can and will absolutely take advantage of having a 4 who can score. He did it with the Twins, T-Rob, JJ and Jalen. He definitely needs to add some skill/develop an offensive game that can be more than catching alley oops at this level. Wouldn't argue that.
But I do pretty much reject the idea/notion that he is "basically a 5." The guy has above average handles for his size. Enough that Bill trusted him in the weave as a freshman. His shooting form (based off of HS tape) is better than Jalen's. He shows plenty of signs of having a good BBIQ (4.1 Assists per game in HS and showed plenty of IQ this season). He has soft touch and looks to be very coordinated.
The talent is all there. He just has to basically stick it out next season behind Jalen (hopefully) and then 2023-2024 will be his year. He is basically a jump shot away from being a ++ defender and 10ppg+ offensive threat. It'll take some work, but from what I can see the tools are all there.
I really, really hope he is back. I'm super high on him if he is willing to tough it out.
I rarely find that this route is "the right way" but I feel like it is in this particular case. In order to be forced to develop offensively, he needs a place where talent is there to push him each day. If he leaves and goes a step or two down, I just don't see how he ever is pushed enough in practice to develop his offensive game. He can get on the floor at a lot of schools. But he can't be GREAT at a lot of places. Just my two cents at least.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
I wouldn’t expect much to come out on KU targets. They’re playing this really close to the vest
Yea I'm guessing we don't want to scare anyone out the door until we've got someone in the bag.
Looking at KJ and Yes specifically. Definitely guys you want on your roster unless you are landing an obvious upgrade.
Well all I can hope is that he sees an easier path to the field at Buffalo than KU. At least that is what I'm going to tell myself.
This was a travesty.
I understand why the decision was made, but it was the wrong one.
@BeddieKU23 said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
Love & Davis also may return. Not unprecedented for UNC to have this happen. All 3 are fringe NBA guys right now
Somehow always the best at recruiting guys who are great CBB players but not NBA players.
Book your tickets now. What an insane field.
- Gonzaga
- Tennessee
- Marquette
- UCLA
- Purdue
- Syracuse
- Kansas
@BeddieKU23 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Keep seeing Tshiebwe may return to UK for a multi-million dollar NIL deal. Any truth to this? Wild
I'm curious to see the amount. But I think returning is in his best interest if it is even just $1M.
@BShark said in Thinking About Past Teams:
16 was cooooooooooold. I think that squad gets overlooked because of how it ended. They got jobbed in the EE in a FF caliber game against the eventual national champ. 5th best shooting % from the floor and 4th best from 3 in the NATION. Oh and a top 3 defense too.
I will always wonder how that season pans out if Diallo is cleared in May and able to participate day 1.
@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
NIL could make college basketball much better again.
My only argument against it at this point is it caused TOO many dudes to stay lol. In combination with extra covid years we had so many vets playing ball, guys who can play college defense, and it made the games SO boring. The tournament only had a few teams willing to run. (Oddly enough those teams faired pretty well).
But yea the NIL stuff is going to get a lot more guys to stay. Especially those borderline draft guys. It was and will be great for the sport/player retention.
@BShark said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
@benshawks08 Very sure. There is no scoring punch in those 3 (Joe scored off very high volume in a stretch where Drake had no one else). Could see Joe leaving after we bring in another small guard.
The only reason I see Joe staying is that he can either sit a year somewhere else to keep eligibility vs. getting at least a little bit of run here. Then he can transfer after next season as a grad transfer.
He's in a really tough spot and I feel bad for the guy. I think he is a better player than he got the chance to show. KU is just a tough place to play. Bill Self is not for everyone.
At the same time it might not be up to Joe. I don't know that Bill wants to carry 4 small guards.
@rockchalkjayhawk said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
Could we make a decent starting five with transfers? :)
PG: Charlie Moore
SG: Bryce Thompson
SF: Tristan Enaruna
PF: Silvio De Sousa
C: Gethro Muscadin? Any others?
Bench: Tyon Grant-Foster, Latrell Jossell
KJ Lawson put up good numbers at Tulane this season
@BShark said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
@chriz said in 2022 Transfer Portal Thread:
@jayballer67 would not be surprised at all to see him replace Remy. Jankovich connection.
Methinks you’re onto something
Looks like there is some mutual interest here..
Yea would take
@Kcmatt7 well. bad example of a person we want on campus. but you know what i mean
@FarmerJayhawk Bummer... Just going to have to live in the transfer market for a while. At least we have that instead of JUCOs now. Production at the P5 level vs. hope and a prayer you got the next Alvin Kamara.
@bskeet said in What's our fate?:
In a way, it was a bigger slap to Mizzou who has claimed KC as their market..
I never will understand why they haven’t latched on to the St. Louis area.
St. Louis is such a fertile recruiting area, only has the Hockey and Baseball pro teams, and is a great TV market. And St. Louis is closer than KC.
@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@Kcmatt7 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@bskeet said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Personally, I've always felt that Dave is a better NBA prospect than Doke. Defensively, they were about equal. However, Dave has more offensive skills and they've been there from the very start. Even as a freshman, it was clear that he was an entirely different 5 than Doke. Dave scored on short jumpers and jump hooks as well as dunks. Doke was pretty much just a dunk dude.
Dave can shoot it from distance, but we had enough shooters so he was never asked to go beyond the paint. Plus he hits FTs. All in all, Dave has potential to be a better pro than Doke IMHO.
I'd love for him to return, of course. But what we saw in this tournament was Dave with a bad foot... then what he could be with two good wheels should be plenty good enough to be a pro. If he gets healthy in time for the NBA tryouts to showcase his abilities, I think he'll be a low first / early second rounder.
I can respect the opinion but their athleticism is on a different planet. I will be very surprised if David gets more than a cup of coffee. Rooting for him though.
Yea Doke setting combine vertical records really put that in perspective. It has made it hard to evaluate post players because you don't realize how imposing he actually was.
Block rates, KU career
Udoka 9.4
Dave 4.1
Cole 9.9
Jeff Withey 14.3 (OMEGALUL)
Withey's timing is the craziest thing. Dude could catch a fly with chop sticks.
Craziest thing about Doke is that he added 10 inches of vert between combines...
@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@bskeet said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Personally, I've always felt that Dave is a better NBA prospect than Doke. Defensively, they were about equal. However, Dave has more offensive skills and they've been there from the very start. Even as a freshman, it was clear that he was an entirely different 5 than Doke. Dave scored on short jumpers and jump hooks as well as dunks. Doke was pretty much just a dunk dude.
Dave can shoot it from distance, but we had enough shooters so he was never asked to go beyond the paint. Plus he hits FTs. All in all, Dave has potential to be a better pro than Doke IMHO.
I'd love for him to return, of course. But what we saw in this tournament was Dave with a bad foot... then what he could be with two good wheels should be plenty good enough to be a pro. If he gets healthy in time for the NBA tryouts to showcase his abilities, I think he'll be a low first / early second rounder.
I can respect the opinion but their athleticism is on a different planet. I will be very surprised if David gets more than a cup of coffee. Rooting for him though.
Yea Doke setting combine vertical records really put that in perspective. It has made it hard to evaluate post players because you don't realize how imposing he actually was.