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Who is responsible? • Dec 24, 2014 10:16 PM

@justanotherfan : Great post. I have a feeling next Tuesday we will be pounding the ball inside. And this is very unfortunate.... Self has a hard enough time changing things up at half time (waiting too long to press, not switching Ds, never switching Os....). And wasn't it last year that he mentioned something about the amount of plays they have that makes it difficult to relearn a brand new O or D mid-season??

@KUinLA : Unless we implode and go sub 0.500 in conference play I don't see how we don't make the NCAAs. Out of the top 25 KenPom RPI teams we've played the toughest schedule and are 9-2. The only teams that we've played that aren't in the Top 100 are Lafayette at #137 and Rider at #182 so we've haven't played any UMKC or UNC Asheville cellar dwellers. We're 4-1 vs the top 50 with URI almost in the top 50 at 53.

Insufferable Shocker Fans • Dec 10, 2014 01:41 AM

@drgnslayr said:

@Kip_McSmithers

I didn't realize the bounty was that high in the Bahamas.

"Not sure how H/H/H is less than H/N/A??? "

Here is the math:

3 games at AFH
16,300 X 3 = 48,900

3 games, 1 AFH, 1 Sprint, 1 Wichita Intrust Arena
16,300 + 18,972 + 15,000 = 50,272 and two of those games include no low cost student tickets

Are you implying that in this hypothetical series that KU would get all of the gate at the Sprint and Intrust??? But not only the gate the concessions, merch, parking, ect.? Jayhawkfan claimed KU makes around 600k per home game and 200k for Sprint so really there's no way we can make cash on this. Just because the other arenas have more seats doesn't always equal extra cash because it's split way to many ways. It's too bad but there isn't cash to be made playing this series unless tv chips in the difference. You know anybody from ESPN?

Insufferable Shocker Fans • Dec 08, 2014 09:55 PM

@wissoxfan83 : Not sure I follow you. Currently KU has the number 10 SOS with the number 4 RPI. Last year the same. So we aren't playing a non-con full of cupcakes like Syracuse. Currently teams can schedule 29 games (28 if you play in an early season tourney since tourney only counts as 1 game). KU has 18 conference games. 9 at home, 9 away. So of the 10 non-conference games KU typically plays 6-8 at home, the 2 neutral court games (CC and Sprint Center), and then two return games with teams in a scheduled H/H. Like someone pointed out. I'd rather we play a game in a place were we can gain MORE exposure like Philly or So Cal where there are always big time recruits in the area.

Insufferable Shocker Fans • Dec 08, 2014 05:09 PM

@drgnslayr said:

Every year we play turkey games, like in the Bahamas, that actually COST Kansas money. Those are not even revenue games.

Not sure why you think the early season tournaments are costing KU money. As it's pointed out in the link I'm providing, What's up with all these tropical early season basketball tournaments ↗, we do get paid to play in these games. And if UNI is getting 150,000 of the 2,000,000 then I'm sure your payout is based on your worth to said tourney. It also states that most conferences require member schools to participate in them.

Gate has nothing to do with this. And if it did, we would already be involved in this series, because the math has been done, and a home/away/Sprint deal makes more money than playing 3 games in AFH. Already proven.

I'd like to see the numbers on that proposal for myself. Not sure how H/H/H is less than H/N/A??? Are we getting $$ and then some for the away game that would make up for one less home game???

I stumbled upon this when looking for a photo of Bowen in his playing days... Has anyone brought up the fact that KUFBHC Bowen is obviously a great salesman/recruiter??? How else did he get Miss Kansas in 2001 and Mrs Kansas in 2014 to marry him?? Congrats on that Coach Bowen!

KU interim coach Clint Bowen ready to bring enthusiasm to job ↗

Bowen savors match made in Kansas ↗

I'm glad to see he finished the play.

@jaybate-1.0 : I'll answer one of your questions... Academic fraud is illegal if you're paid to teach a class and never actually teach a class. NY Times: A's for athletes, but charges of Tar Heel fraud ↗ Of course charges were dropped once he signed on to spill the beans.

And I guess if you want answers to all of your questions it would be best for you to contact a local university's compliance office. I'm sure they'd be happy to help you out with your questions.

@jaybate-1.0 : Maybe you can find what you're looking for here. It's about independent study courses and on UNC site.
Independent Study Policy ↗

This CNN article has more details than most. This section is what @justanotherfan is talking about.

Underpreparedness is reflected in emails from advisers, particularly those from Boxill, who suggested grades and at least once acknowledged that a paper was plagiarized.

"Yes, a D will be fine; that's all she needs," one email from Boxill to Crowder says. "I didn't look at the paper but figured it was a recycled one as well, but I couldn't figure from where!"

In another email, Boxill wrote that one athlete was only taking "two real courses."

CNN: UNC athletics report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing ↗

@jaybate-1.0 : You can find these articles in the other post of yours. These are just two of the articles that shed light on this whole situation. The first paragraph I'm going to post is from the TIME article:

In November 2009, two counselors led a meeting with the football coaching staff, including then-head coach Butch Davis. They showed the coaches a slide, warning them that these paper classes NO LONGER EXIST. “What was part of the solution in the past?” read the slide. “We put them in classes that met degree requirement in which they didn’t go to class, they didn’t take notes, have to stay awake, they didn’t have to meet with professors, they didn’t have to pay attention or necessarily engage with the material.” The counselors then showed two more slides comparing the GPA of eight football players in the paper classes with their GPA in other classes. The average paper-class GPA was 3.61, their GPA in other classes was 1.917.

And this paragraph is from the USA TODAY article:

For years, people working closely with athletics took advantage, and academic counselors for the football program even pushed Nyang'oro, the department chair, to get the so-called "paper classes" up and running again after Crowder retired in 2009. The semester following her retirement, the football team's average GPA dipped to 2.121, Wainstein found, the lowest in 10 years.

What's in question here are undergraduate classes where obviously A LOT of these athletes are getting Cs (2.0) and Ds (1.0) because their cumulative GPA wouldn't be in the toilet otherwise. So there is no "unwritten UNIVERSITY law" that these students get As and Bs. There was however an AFAM unwritten law by those individuals that ran this scandal for students to get a GPA boost.

@jaybate-1.0 : I don't think it's so much that the "paper" classes are under scrutiny as much as what was required for said papers and how said papers were graded. You can read more about what went horribly wrong here: North Carolina Real College Sports Scandal ↗ and here North Carolina Probe ↗

@jaybate-1.0 : it's my understanding that they viewed several of the 'papers' that were turned in for a grade and several of them were exact copies of other published works. Just pretty much photocopied. Didn't even try to change some of the wording.... And on said papers students were giving passing grades. Usually As and Bs to boost GPAs for athletes.

2005 UNC Basketball Team, 2 semesters, 35 bogus paper classes ↗

This can't be good for UNC. What are the chances their 2005 title is toast???

LJW did an article two years ago on "clustering majors" by athletes. It has numbers on majors from 2004-2012 for the whole Big12. Here's the link: Athletes' tendencies to 'cluster' ↗

It's pretty uncommon to get to watch a guy for 7 years, I'm looking at you BStar...

That's crazy about the kid taking others ACTs. I can't recall the protocol for when I took the ACT wayyyyy back in the day but when I took my boards 7 or so years ago they didn't mess around. Just short of DNA testing to prove my identity :)

NCAA didn't investigate Shady's grades. Dallas schools did. Why Detroit? Why not Milwaukee? Fort Wayne? Madison? Somewhere not 4.5 hours away?

Celebrities at AFH • Nov 07, 2014 11:23 PM

Aaron Rogers. George Brett. Multiple Chiefs players over the years to name a few.

@justanotherfan : The article I linked claims Rose's SAT score that made the cut for the NCAA was taken in Detroit though. Does that not seem odd to you? Is there not a testing site closer?

Here's more on World Wide. GQ article ↗ IMO, just being associated to this guy makes you shady. Funny how Selby was suspended but Wagner wasn't back in the day?

You bring up Shady. Did you know that he was actually cleared. Rose wasn't though. That's the difference. Arthur's Grades Cleared ↗

I've brought this up before and I'll say it again. Cal + UK = $$$ for NCAA. The NCAA are gold diggers. You think they want to divorce their sugar daddy??? ;)

I can't prove anything with either Camby or Rose. But like @JRyman says, if you find yourself routinely walking out of houses with dead people inside people are going to start to wonder about you. This article links D. Rose to Detroit, which is WWW's hometown. And WWW is Sleaze's BFF.

This article claims Cal had a hand in the SAT ↗

When these scandals follow you around it's hard for most to believe you had no part in it. Does HCJC actually have that bad of luck?? If HCBS had a kid get paid by agents at Tulsa and then another kid have a falsified SAT plus high school transcript at Illinois would you have your doubts??

@jaybate-1.0 : you might like that article. Has a connection with WWW, Nike, and one of our former recruits Malik Hairston.

I hate to give this video it's own thread so I hope you don't mind if I tag it along here. It's about Sleazy Cal and addressing his vacated FF.

Sleaze Warning ↗

In the video JC talks about "getting players to the NBA". This has always bugged me when people (coaches, sports reports, fans) talk about a coach getting kids to the NBA. Does anyone here in Bucketland :tm: actually think Bill Self got Andrew Wiggins to the NBA? Was Wiggins not already a for sure thing??? Just like Anthony Davis, D. Rose, Nerlens, DeMarcus Cousins, John Wall, ect... Did Rick Barnes get KD there? Did Frank get Beasley there? Did any of these coaches really get these already top level talented guys to the NBA? Can Kobe's and KG's high school coaches say they got them there? If the NBA didn't have the OAD rule and all of these guys could have gone pro right out of high school would any of them went to their respective schools??

Chuck Neinas to help with KUFBHC search • Nov 06, 2014 10:34 PM

I'll agree he did a lot of great capital investing for KU Athletics INC and his backroom dealing got us into the Orange Bowl but I still can't forgive him for his handling MM and gutting our football program. Especially in the "Age of Realignment" were a turd of a FB program relegates you to a Mid-Major conference. :scream:

@JRyman : I too thought maybe he put that out there to confuse ESU... ;)

Chuck Neinas to help with KUFBHC search • Nov 06, 2014 03:58 PM

KC Star: KU hires Chuck Neinas to help KUFBHC search ↗

Not mentioned in this article is that Chuck and his company helped KU find our wonderful former AD 'ol Lew back in the day. And with Uncle Fester came the crapping all over our FB program, ticket gate, points for seats (which blows for us poor folks), free workout equipment for Lew, and all the other backroom deals for his cronies... I still can't fathom how he was not thrown out by his big ears after all that and was given a 2.6 million buyout!!! Pure con man. Lew was a fundraiser that didn't hire one single winning coach for KU. Looking at you Bonnie.... When Lew was our AD he generated a lot of money, too bad it all didn't make it to the university.

Hopefully Chuck and Co. can find KU a coach that can win and he's not a con artist like their previous AD hire.

Strange that Bill says this when we just had three returning guys known for 3 balling leave the team. Hopefully we can connect on a good percentage of these added threes!

It's not mentioned but Bill also talks about the timing of the Frankamp transfer during Q&A and injury updates for Greene and Lucas.

Greene suffers concussion against Washburn • Nov 05, 2014 08:38 PM

@wrwlumpy : I put the video up for you because I loved it! Thank you for that link!!! Smart, being Smart. Looks as though he hasn't changed a thing. Glad to see the refs didn't fall for it either. Here's hoping he gets fined!

Greene suffers concussion against Washburn • Nov 05, 2014 08:33 PM

@KUSTEVE said:

@jaybate-1.0 The Washburn player was trying to slap at the ball, and got Devonte's face instead. Not sure why he was grabbing the back of his head- maybe he got hit there as well. Those are some bad ass Ichabods.

Maybe he watched the World Cup this summer???

@Crimsonorblue22 said:

@HighEliteMajor bww?

Buffalo Wild Wings

Tomorrow and other topics • Nov 03, 2014 09:33 PM

@JayhawkRock78 : I knew you weren't. And all the guys I mentioned left well before graduation.

The Only Question Was "Who" • Nov 03, 2014 09:26 PM

@ralster said:

Here's a better comparison to CF: Brannen Greene. At work now dont recall his 3% last season, but he got just as scarce mpg (it seems) as CF did, but Greene seemed to connect on 3s alot better than CF. And both were coming in cold off the bench. And Greene got quick yanks too. So if anyone can comparo Greene's mpg & 3% then we'd be enlightened.

Additional corrollary to this cold3%shooting, is it reveals a player who is efficient of mechanics, to the point it can hit off the bench. Recall frosh Teahan, frosh Sherron were straight up money(!) from 3land off the bench. CF, methinks, is a volume shooter.

And we are really only discussing CF at all because of 3 made-3's in a lost game. My hopes for him died with each and every 3 miss all season long, just as my hope for Greene rose with each made-3 all season long.

Greene played 2 minutes less per game and hit 0.02% better from 3. BG also had a better FG% and FT%. He did average 0.5 to's to CF's 0.1 to's.

Tomorrow and other topics • Nov 03, 2014 09:18 PM

@Crimsonorblue22 said:

@Kip_McSmithers I've never heard of so many transferring after graduating, fb and basketball.

I don't think I follow. Are you referring to kids like Tarik?? Or did I not make a clear point?? If it's the later I put the blame on daylight savings.... Here's the link: Tracking transfer in Division I men’s basketball ↗

And another... Transferring in college sports can’t become free-agency ↗

Tomorrow and other topics • Nov 03, 2014 07:33 PM

@JayhawkRock78 : We've always had transfers. Appleton, Q Thomas, Micah Downs, D. Padgett, CJ Giles, Alex Galindo. I think it's becoming more common everywhere though. I read a report on it last season about the number of players that sign with one school as a freshmen and actually graduate from that school. Numbers were staggering.

Tomorrow and other topics • Nov 03, 2014 07:27 PM

@KULA : I take CF leaving as a sign of CF and the CF family seeing that he wouldn't and/or wasn't going to beat out the guys ahead of him this year or the next. Are you blaming coach Self for recruiting better players?? I want Self (and we all should) to fill his 13 scholarships with the best players he can get. Are some of those guys going to come here with a high ranking thinking they're a big dog only to find out that what they did in high school just doesn't cut it anymore. You bet your ass. And are those same guys going to tighten their shoelaces and bust their ass to beat out the guy ahead of them or are they going to go somewhere else so they can be "the man" and beat out a lesser player for their time?? Which player would you rather have wearing a Kansas uniform??

You should really go read the latest article about Cliff if you haven't already. Cliff dominated high school because he was a big body and he knows it. And now he knows he can't rely on just out muscling the other guys. He's got to learn the skills that will help him pay the bills. This year he's going to go against some of the best and most athletic big men in the country. He can't just use his size against Turner or UK. He got to work on his post moves if he wants to score on them!

As for CF, I do not think Self showed him the door. I do think Self was honest with him about his minutes. Just like he was honest with AW3. And Royce. And.... ect. And it's not like Self is playing Tyler over CF. He's playing guys that Self sees as a better combo for the kids he has. I get it that CF had great numbers against guys in high school that weren't D1 defenders. But now he's playing against D1 guys everyday in practice and in games and he seemed rattled. His shot was off most of last year. Could it be the quick jerk or the length or both??

Now I understand CF leaving to go do his own thing. Would I rather he stuck around? Yes, just like I hope (almost) all of our players stick around to become big time players in their senior years. But CF got to do what CF has to do. He knows he's only going to be a KU 6'0" so he has to weigh those options of sitting and partially contributing or going somewhere else that suits him and fits his style and size.

Finally, CF is going to go somewhere else and steal playing time from some other player that went to a school because he thought he was going to get to play. Does that make CF a dick for stealing his future teammates minutes??? I mean that kid did go to said school to play and when that kid signed his LOI CF wasn't there...

NBC Sports report on Cliff • Nov 03, 2014 06:44 PM

@globaljaybird

MSN link to KC Star article ↗

Photo is wrong. That's Hunter....

Found the following on Baylors site. Sounds like there is a two year period. I've always heard that. Figured it was true. The wording on the big12 site is vague.

Pursuant to an NCAA rule interpretation from May 1988, universities have the right to place restrictions on the Permission to Contact. It is the general policy of Baylor Athletics to place the following restrictions on all student-athletes who are wishing to transfer, regardless of their sport:

• Generally, the student-athlete may not have contact with any member schools of the Big 12 Conference, and
• The Head Coach of the program, at their discretion, may impose further restrictions on the Permission to Contact.

Please also note that the Big 12 Conference has an "Intra-Conference Transfer Rule" which may affect the eligibility of a student-athlete wishing to transfer from one conference member school to another, depending on their chosen sport.

The Only Question Was "Who" • Nov 01, 2014 08:02 PM

@HighEliteMajor : Does a smaller, younger and comparably ranked (espn 33rd) Dorsey (fr) beat out Greene (jr) next year? Maybe he's better than his espn ranking but I think Greene plays more than Dorsey if he's here. I do think comparably sized, higher ranked, fellow Georgian and presumed OAD Brown would play over Greene though.

Conner gone? • Oct 31, 2014 09:24 PM

I would have liked him to stick around 5 years because I think he could have been of some use as a ball trustworthy, lights out three shooter in his RS JR and RS SR years. But in reality he lacks the size, muscle of other glue guys we've had in the past (Reed, Releford, BStar) so he's gone. As far as the NBA I really don't see it. He's too small and not quick enough. He can probably go overseas and make a paycheck after his college days are all done though. I wonder if Self doesn't know of future commits already and that was an influencing factor too.

The best 100 players in college basketball • Oct 30, 2014 03:28 PM

@KUSTEVE said:

@drgnslayr I have a different list for POY... My top 3 list is as follows:

1) Wayne Selden
2) Perry Ellis
3) The rest of the KU team

Our goal should be to win the SEC in non- conference games, then win conference, then win the NC. We will be a lean, mean, winning machine.

At first I thought you meant we were in the SEC and I started to wonder if you weren't Cal?? Now I get that you mean beat UK and UF.

The best 100 players in college basketball • Oct 30, 2014 01:58 PM

@JayHawkFanToo : I can't be for certain but I take @justanotherfan 's analogy of school yard balling is in reference to when you are in grade school and picking your team. I don't think @justanotherfan is referencing the actual style of school yard ball that has lots of ball hoggery, no out of bounds, imaginary three point line, ect..

I think you could also use a fantasy football analogy in this situation too but since I don't play FF I don't know what it would be. ;)

Place your bets here... • Oct 29, 2014 08:22 PM

@HighEliteMajor : UConn women won it that year too. If female sports matter. SARCASM!!

Place your bets here... • Oct 29, 2014 07:18 PM

@drgnslayr said:

Could this be the year for the Kansas City area?

Royals

Chiefs

Jayhawks

How about 2 out of 3?

Seems like both good and bad luck often comes in bunches. Maybe it is our year for good luck! I'm hoping the Royals will trigger it off and we'll be celebrating in April!

Add in Sporting KC. They won the MLS Cup last year and are the play-in game of the playoffs this season.

Congrats to @Jesse-Newell .

KU Buckets T-Shirts • Oct 27, 2014 05:05 PM

@JayHawkFanToo - When we say that kubuckets.com would not benefit from the t- is partially correct. Darn auto-correct! I think going with a vendor and even having KU's blessing is a wise move. Do you think doing something like this UT fan site is a good idea? Horn Sports ↗ Looking at this UT fan site they have this "HornSports.com is an independent source of news and information and is not affiliated with or endorsed by any school, team, or league" posted. I didn't contact them to see if they were required by UT to do it or just did it to "CYA". Also I noticed a lot of boards have Terms of Service and Rules** pages. Good idea? Bad idea??

Here's an example of one I found:
The providers ("we", "us", "our".) of the service provided by this web site ("Service".) are not responsible for any user-generated content and accounts ("Content".). Content submitted express the views of their author only. You agree to not use the Service to submit or link to any Content which is defamatory, abusive, hateful, threatening, spam or spam-like, likely to offend, contains adult or objectionable content, contains personal information of others, risks copyright infringement, encourages unlawful activity, or otherwise violates any laws. All Content you submit or upload may be reviewed by staff members. All Content you submit or upload may be sent to third-party verification services (including, but not limited to, spam prevention services). Do not submit any Content that you consider to be private or confidential. We reserve the rights to remove or modify any Content submitted for any reason without explanation.

KU Buckets T-Shirts • Oct 27, 2014 03:06 PM

@drgnslayr : I agree with you on the use of KUBuckets.com not being in violation as a webpage. Especially when you compare ours to other schools fan made webpages. If it were a problem UT and UK fans would be in trouble.

Now if it were me I'd steer clear of using the same fonts as KU does on shirts. Although I like the Naismith and Wilt shirt I think it could cause problems with confusion for lawyers/judges between us and KU. And whoever mentioned that we should have a legal page that states we are not in any way affiliated, endorsed, or whatever... with the University, KU Athletics Inc, Williams Fund, ect. has a good idea.

KU Buckets T-Shirts • Oct 27, 2014 02:29 PM

@drgnslayr : I pulled that information from the University of Kansas Athletics - KU Trademark and Licensing - FAQ page. Here's the actual page that I linked. Appendix B I just copied and pasted the verbiage part.

I found the trademark for Kansas here: Trademark Electronic Search - Kansas ↗. I think using Kansas on items in the colors listed in Appendix B without consent from KU would get any seller in trouble. Same goes for KU. Here's the trademark for Trademark Electronic Search - KU ↗.

@eastcoasthawk : Cummings dropping the snap on the shotgun then picking it up to throw an interception killed me. I agree, his decision making needs to improve on long throws.

KU Buckets T-Shirts • Oct 22, 2014 09:42 PM

This is from wikisource so take it with what that's worth....

!Naismith ↗

-Some or all works by this author are in the public domain in the United States because they were published before January 1, 1923.

The author died in 1939, so works by this author are also in the public domain in countries and areas where the copyright term is the author's life plus 70 years or less. Works by this author may also be in the public domain in countries and areas with longer native copyright terms that apply the rule of the shorter term to foreign works.

I know there is the magical line of pre-1923 copyright. I wasn't sure if 1912 'Hawk would fall under that or not??
!1912 'Hawk ↗

I can't say I'm shocked to see Perry's offensive number being that high. Offensively I feel he's great. He needs to be more assertive but we always have players (Ben, Andrew) that aren't. Defensively is where I worry about him. He's a 'tweener that can't muscle low post 4s and he's too slow for stretch 4s. Looking at him he looks as strong as an ox but he sure doesn't play like it. He really needs to be more aggressive against big 4s and not be afraid to mix it up with some wide bodies. And he needs to work on his lateral quickness for smaller 4s like Ejim and Niang that killed him.

KU Buckets T-Shirts • Oct 22, 2014 06:58 PM

Here is the guy we need to obtain written permission from:

Paul Vander Tuig, Trademark Licensing Director

The University of Kansas

Office of Trademark Licensing

1601 Irving Hill Road

Burge Union, Room 306

Lawrence, KS 66045-7557

Phone: (785) 864-4650

FAX: (785) 864-3877

e-mail: pvt@ku.edu

Here's the list of verbiage that is trademarked:

  • The University of Kansas ®
    (Use "THE" when possible)
  • KU ®
  • Kansas Jayhawks ®
  • Jayhawks ®
  • The Crimson and the Blue™
  • Kansas ®
  • Beak 'Em Hawks
  • Rock Chalk Jayhawk®
  • Allen Fieldhouse ®
  • Kivisto Field ®

On the KU Athletics page they have a FAQ page and one of the questions is about royalties and what happens to the money raised from the royalties. Proceeds generated by the trademark licensing program are returned to KU students through academic or athletic scholarships and student programs administered by the KU Endowment Association. All net royalties are deposited into these funds annually.

This is some more info on my Fair Use stance.

Some courts have recognized a somewhat different, but closely-related, fair-use defense, called nominative use. Nominative use occurs when use of a term is necessary for purposes of identifying another producer's product, not the user's own product. For example, the newspaper USA Today ran a telephone poll, asking its readers to vote for their favorite member of the music group New Kids on the Block. The New Kids on the Block sued USA Today for trademark infringement. The court held that the use of the trademark "New Kids on the Block" was a privileged nominative use because: (1) the group was not readily identifiable without using the mark; (2) USA Today used only so much of the mark as reasonably necessary to identify it; and (3) there was no suggestion of endorsement or sponsorship by the group. The basic idea is that use of a trademark is sometimes necessary to identify and talk about another party's products and services. When the above conditions are met, such a use will be privileged. New Kids on the Block v. News America Publishing, Inc., 971 F.2d 302 (9th Cir. 1992). Read Here for more... ↗

KU Buckets T-Shirts • Oct 21, 2014 10:17 PM

Anyone ever watch the "Nathan for You" Dumb Starbucks episode?? He opened an "art gallery" called Dumb Starbucks in which he sold coffee much like the real Starbucks and was legally able to do so. The logo was pretty much the same as Starbucks but had dumb in front of it. The same with all of the items the store sold. The episode was pretty funny and the show in general wasn't bad at all. Check it out. But to my point...

Under Fair Use you can:

One of the rights accorded to the owner of copyright is the right to reproduce or to authorize others to reproduce the work in copies or phonorecords. This right is subject to certain limitations found in sections 107 through 118 of the copyright law (title 17, U. S. Code). One of the more important limitations is the doctrine of “fair use.” The doctrine of fair use has developed through a substantial number of court decisions over the years and has been codified in section 107 of the copyright law.

Section 107 contains a list of the various purposes for which the reproduction of a particular work may be considered fair, such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Section 107 also sets out four factors to be considered in determining whether or not a particular use is fair.

    The purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes
    The nature of the copyrighted work
    The amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole
    The effect of the use upon the potential market for, or value of, the copyrighted work

The distinction between what is fair use and what is infringement in a particular case will not always be clear or easily defined. There is no specific number of words, lines, or notes that may safely be taken without permission. Acknowledging the source of the copyrighted material does not substitute for obtaining permission.

The 1961 Report of the Register of Copyrights on the General Revision of the U.S. Copyright Law cites examples of activities that courts have regarded as fair use: “quotation of excerpts in a review or criticism for purposes of illustration or comment; quotation of short passages in a scholarly or technical work, for illustration or clarification of the author’s observations; use in a parody of some of the content of the work parodied; summary of an address or article, with brief quotations, in a news report; reproduction by a library of a portion of a work to replace part of a damaged copy; reproduction by a teacher or student of a small part of a work to illustrate a lesson; reproduction of a work in legislative or judicial proceedings or reports; incidental and fortuitous reproduction, in a newsreel or broadcast, of a work located in the scene of an event being reported.”

Copyright protects the particular way authors have expressed themselves. It does not extend to any ideas, systems, or factual information conveyed in a work.

The safest course is to get permission from the copyright owner before using copyrighted material. The Copyright Office cannot give this permission.

When it is impracticable to obtain permission, you should consider avoiding the use of copyrighted material unless you are confident that the doctrine of fair use would apply to the situation. The Copyright Office can neither determine whether a particular use may be considered fair nor advise on possible copyright violations. If there is any doubt, it is advisable to consult an attorney.

Link to that text... ↗

I can't believe we don't have a lawyer on this site!?!?!

Lose the Chicken • Oct 21, 2014 09:26 PM

Where's Jaybate with his money angle on this?? I don't live in the prime Jayhawk apparel market so I can't answer this but do they sell all of the styles of jerseys and helmets in stores (KU Bookstore, Sampler, JN, Dicks, ect.)??? The more unique or collector jerseys out there the more money they can get out of us?? So instead of owning the home and away now people are buying the red, powder blue, and black so they stand out in the (in) crowd? Will going back to just blues and whites decrease the likelihood of a jersey sale thus decreasing football (athletic dept) profits?? I'm sure as long as we don't pay the next HC to coach for 5 when he only works for 2 we can take the loss on apparel....