Now we need a good long drive and take 6-7 minutes off the clock and get at least a FG on this drive.
Gotta be aware of a fake punt attempt here.
Big time wasted opportunity there.
Ball don't lie!!!
@DanR said in Will weather be a factor tomorrow /predictions:
Plus the ball was across before his knee touched
The rule is where the ball is when the slide begins, not when the knee touches. Bailed out by the targeting call though.
He fucking hit Bean in the head first!!!
That's fucking targeting!!!
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Will weather be a factor tomorrow /predictions:
Bigger than not having Daniels issue maybe is that we are missing our DTs and can't stop the run. We are going to have to do better in the 2nd half and hope for some penalties or turnovers to get our defense off the field.
KU's run defense even when fully healthy wasn't exactly good at stopping other teams.
This could be beneficial to slow OU's momentum right now.
Worst outcome after giving up that TD. Short drive and not giving the defense a chance to rest.
@kjayhawks said in Will weather be a factor tomorrow /predictions:
@Texas-Hawk-10 why wasn’t it reviewed is my question
Refs said forward progress which isn't reviewable.
That ball was out before the whistle. KU just got fucked on that one.
This is about as great a start as possible for KU. Dominant running game keeping Gabriel off the field and the defense not giving up explosive plays.
Hunter Dickinson named AP preseason 1st Team All-American.
Also, allegedly KSU lost their secret scrimmage game against SMU according to Mike Vernon.
I don't care if Dickinson is edgy unless he beats his chest instead of getting back on defense. I do want to see why Self is so enamored with him.
He's 7'2", averaged 19-9 the past two seasons, can shoot 40% from 3, and is an elite passing big. There's a reason he was chosen as the preseason B12 POY and if he plays to his potential here, could very well end up winning NPOY under Self.
With Dickinson and KJ on offense, we are going to see a lot of high-low involving those two. Dickinson's 3 point ability also means we should see a lot of lobs as teams have to guard him away from the basket opening up backdoor cuts for McCullar and others.
The reason he's not in the NBA right now is that he isn't a great natural athlete. Basically I'm expecting to see a lot of elements of the 2022 offense and going back to the Aldrich, Morris, Robinson era of having two capable post players on the floor together. It should be fun to see what Self comes up with for this group on offense.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Being a Chiefs fan, I feel otherwise. We get on the wrong side of the calls.
I didn't say the Chiefs don't have bad calls go against them, just that the perception is the Chiefs get all of those calls just like the perception was Brady and Patriots got all the 50/50 calls.
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Interesting Games Today?:
Please God, let this be UCF's first B12 win.
Do we really want OU coming into Lawrence pissed off after losing to UCF?
@Jhawk69 said in Some People will spew out anything, who actually believes this BS:
On a somewhat related note, who is the QB of our future after Jalon leaves and does he suffer from injury issues?
I believe the coaching staff is viewing 2024 recruit Isaiah Marshall as the QB of the future. With the improvements in the program, I could also see Leipold going out and getting at high level QB in the portal as well as a stop gap to get Marshall ready.
@approxinfinity said in KU is #1:
@Texas-Hawk-10 What makes the Chiefs the villain under Mahomes? Do you mean because of their success, they're disliked?
The Chiefs have become the villains of the NFL because they're basically the final boss now. They replaced the Patriots in that if you want to win a Super Bowl, you have to go through the Chiefs. There's also the perception that the Chiefs get every questionable call and that Mahomes is as protected as Brady was now. Basically, the Chiefs have the refs in their pockets now.
@Texas-Hawk-10 You embraced a team cheating their way to a world series?
Every team had their system of sign stealing in place. Nobody gives a damn that Yankees and Red Sox were doing it too and mentioned prominently in that report or that Red Sox won the 2018 World Series by sign stealing as well because it's the Yankees and Red Sox and they're supposed to be great every year. People also forget or ignore that the Astros were a better team away from home in 2017 than they were at MMP.
Dickinson gives KU an edge and swagger and I'm fine with being the villain this year. Those of y'all that are Chiefs fans already know what it feels like to cheer for the villain because the Chiefs have become that team now because of their success under Mahomes. I've embraced it for years now with the Astros and I'm ready to embrace it with basketball this year.
I can't remember all of the games you mentioned but the losses against Oregon, Villanova and Arkansas were strikingly familiar in that Jay Wright, Dana Altman and Eric Musselman all exploited a player matchup weakness that KU could not stop. Maybe because of a lack of quality defensive depth.
I think you're thinking of the 2016 Villanova game when Perry Ellis's lack of athleticismwas exploited. 2018 Villanova was just a flat out better team than KU and nobody was beating them that tournament.
@wissox said in Some People will spew out anything, who actually believes this BS:
Wisconsin was the most logical jump last year if he was going to jump ship. Of course coaches make 'I'll die here in ....' statements and then a new greener pasture opens and they're gone. Lance won a lot at the D3 level. I'm just a little leery that he will not think he'll get to taste championships here in Lawrence and move on to a place where winning big is more possible. MSU? I mean you can't even win your own state. Not quite sure he'd ever think about that school. I think Wisconsin got the guy they wanted too so I think that threat is no longer.
@nuleafjhawk Say it!
Michigan St. is a place you can win at the highest levels. They've made the CFP and have more resources than KU does. MSU should absolutely be calling Leipold to gauge his interest because Leipold is a great coach and MSU is a place you can contend for national titles in football.
KU will begin the 2023-24 season ranked #1 in the AP poll. Duke is 2, Purdue is 3, Michigan St. is 4, Marquette is 5, UConn is 6, Houston is 7, Creighton is 8, Tennessee is 9, Florida Atlantic is 10.
There are 4 Big 12 schools ranked in the preseason poll with the other two being Texas at 18 and Baylor at 20.
The Maui field is going to be insane. 5 of the 8 teams are ranked in the top 11. For KU Tonkin Maui, they will potentially have to go through two top 5 teams as Marquette seems the likely second round opponent and potentially Purdue in the championship.
Illinois is ranked 25th so our first exhibition hame will be a ranked match up. In the regular season, KU will play between 2-4 ranked opponents with Kentucky and UConn being basically guaranteed ranked match ups and KU likely facing two more in Maui. Missouri and Indiana are both receiving votes so possibly two more ranked match ups, but not guaranteed.
@wissox said in Hypothetical re: Bean:
You can't say this is a dumb penalty. This is a block being made as the guy is being tackled. Play is not over as Lance was lied to by official. 🐦 View Tweet?s=20
It was a dumb penalty because it was a block in the back and should have been flagged. From middle school up, receivers are always taught that if can't see a defenders eyes, you don't touch them. Refs call wrong names/numbers on penalties occasionally, it happens.
You're trying so hard to blame the refs for the loss because of that call. That was a good call. Had KU not screwed up 3 PAT's or the Bean pick in the endzone, KU would've been sitting on 45 points at that point in the game and it would've been a meaningless penalty. KU beat KU yesterday, not the refs.
Yesterday is why I've been hesitant to say KU will win 8-9 games this year despite havingtge talent to do so. This team has still yet to show it can beat similarly skilled teams away from Lawrence with any level of consistency.
Can KU go into Ames in 3 weeks and beat a team that they should beat on paper, regardless if it's Daniels or Bean under center? Until KU gets to a point where their going at least .500 in those games, this is going to be a program that tops out at 6-7 wins per season.
@wissox said in Hypothetical re: Bean:
One offside call. We made some enormous mistakes and yet were still in great position to close it out and one offside the refs don't call and we lose because of one call. The unneccessary roughness call was a little shady to me, but one offside call. I do think we should have punted there TBH.
KU didn't lose because of one bad call by the refs. KU's own self inflicted mistakes took between 9-17 points off the board. The botched PAT's cost KU three points.
The pick in the endzone likely cost KU 7 points, 3 if we're being conservative. Grimm's late hit knocked KU out of FG range likely costing KU at least 3 more points, possibly 7. KU's own self inflicted mistakes ended up taking at least 9 points off the board and up 17 points off the board.
KU beat themselves today. 3 screw ups on PAT's, pick in the end zone, late hit on Grimm, and Bean's terrible decision making in the 4th quarter.
And Colorado has blown a 29-0 halftime lead to lose 46-43 to Stanford in double OT.
Colorado is really about blow a game they led 29-0 at halftime.
That's a contender for TD of the year!
@FarmerJayhawk said in Interesting Games Today?:
@Texas-Hawk-10 yeah that would be the only explanation unless the white hat can’t do math
I know what the kickoff penalty was. Stanford got a penalty for roughing the long snapper on the PAT and the penalty was applied on the kickoff.
Great drive by Stanford to tie the game.
That was a beautiful punt.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Interesting Games Today?:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I was super confused there as well.
The ref even said the penalty was 30 yards from the kickoff spot. Was there a 15 yard penalty on Stanford that play that wasn't announced or that I missed?
So apparently I don't understand the rule about a kickoff going out of bounds in the college game. Colorado squib kicks after they go up 10, ball ends up going out around the 5 yard line and Stanford only gets the ball on the 20? I always thought the penalty for that was the ball on the 35. It doesn't seem right that kicking the ball out of bounds is more rewarding than a touchback is.
Colorado working on blowing a 29-0 halftime lead. Stanford has down to 3 points with 12 minutes left.
I still need to see KU consistently win road games against the middle and bottom tier teams in the Big 12 Before I'd even think abiut that.
@dylans said in Transfer window shrinkage:
Speaking of the portal, Haley Cavinder has entered it and I am all in for her recruitment! 😂
Laugh if you want, but Haley was the leading scorer on an Elite 8 team last season. I know all the attention her and her sister get is because of their looks and social media presence, but her and her sister can both play. I don't know what the women's scholarship situation looks like, but I would absolutely take both of them in a heartbeat at KU of that's an option.
@mayjay said in IARP update:
@dylans So you think Self cheated? Nothing in the IARP findings establishes that.
Legally, this was a case where an outside consultant paid athletes to go to KU. His actions as a representative of Adidas were held to be the responsibilty of KU because of the bogus booster theory since Adidas helped KU recruit. Vicarious responsibility for wrongdoing is a status matter, not a knowledge matter. They specifically found no evidence that KU and Self failed to supervise adequately. Had there been any evidence of knowledge or involvement by KU and Self in Adidas's cheating, the Level 1 charges would have stood.
So how do you conclude Bill is a cheater?
Do you honestly think Bill Self was clueless about what was happening? Are you really that naive or just in denial about it? Name an all time great college basketball coach that never once had allegations of cheating in some firm or fashion thrown their way that didn't have something credible to support those allegations. The difference between these coaches is usually how well the cover their tracks and give themselves plausible deniability about the cheating.
@Gorilla72 said in IARP update:
Are we sure Silvio is “Player 1” and not Billy Preston?
There were 3 players mentioned in the original documents, Silvio DeSousa, Billy Preston, amd Cheick Diallo. Preston wasn't a factor in KU's punishment because he never played a regular season game for KU because he was held out as soon as the circumstances of him getting the Dodge Charger swere investigated.
DeSousa had a significant amount of money change hands between Adidas and Under Armour to get him out of the arrangement with Under Armour to go to Maryland and come to KU.
Pretty much the penalties I said would happen years ago when this process started. Scholarship reduction and vacating the games Silvio played in during the 2017-18 season.
I guess this also means I didn't really see KU get their asses handed to them by Villanova in that 2018 Final Four.
Shocked Parrish didn't put Kentucky as the top staff since Parrish lives to ride Cal.
@jayballer67 said in Ok so now here we go. Don't shoot the messenger.:
for you guys that don't want to see this-v--- maybe you get your wish, Matt Norlander is reporting that the votes aren't there right now-- not to say it won't happen just not immediate future.
Really can't see the resistance for this but whatever, Brett trying to make this conference even more stable. Again Gonzaga has the FIFTH most TV power exposure. For those that say they play in a crap Conference- ok maybe - -maybe not , probably so. Yet I'm here to tell you Gonzaga would play anyone anywhere just like Ku. - This year non con they have Purdue- -( Mr Zach Edey ) - U Conn , the defending National NCAA champion -& Kentucky -pretty decent. - Am I a Gongaza ass kisser- umm no, but this mov has Pro's written all over it.
Yet breath easy may not be tomorrow, - just want stability. Again they just want 3 mega conferences and this would only add to stability for the Big 12, but at the end of the day -- ROCK CHALK
Stanford is always a contender for the Director's Cup which is given to the top overall athletic department based on success in athletic competitions. Stanford is generally considered to be a top 5 academic university in the U.S. amd has an endowment of $36 billion. Gonzaga is a strong school as well rated in the top 100, but only has an endowment of about $400 million and doesn't compete for the Director's Cup yearly because they don't have enough sports because they are a small, Catholic school.
Long term, Gonzaga isn't worth the add as a basketball only school because if they screw up Mark Few's replacement, they will be at the bottom of the Big 12 annually similar to how TCU was for awhile when they joined and UCF likely will be this year.
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Jayhawks in the pros:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Jayhawks in the pros:
@BShark said in Jayhawks in the pros:
Really don't see a problem with smoking marijuana as long as you are doing your job.
It's illegal for recreational use in Germany so that would be a problem for Garrett. That was also just one of several issues it sounds like with Garrett.
I know people who love to claim weed isn't addictive, but if you can't give it up for a few months because it's illegal for recreational use in the country you're going to be playing in, you might have an addiction problem.
I also find it very difficult to have any sympathy for Garrett in this situation because it sounds like he did zero research about what life is like for pro basketball players in Europe.
This whole thing just sounds weird. Smoking weed? Ok, I get that. Seems like drinking water for a ton of athletes.
Out of shape and lazy? Don’t by that at all. That sound like Marcus Garret to anybody? Weird.
If he's smoking that much weed now, then I absolutely believe that because one of the potential side effects of smoking that much weed is losing your motivation and drive to do things. It's also possible that his lung capacity isn't as good any more because of how much he smokes.
I obviously don't know the specifics of what's going on with Garrett here, but making an educated guess based of what I've seen from friends who chose to be stoners and smoke a lot of weed because that's what looks like is happening with Garrett here.
@BShark said in Jayhawks in the pros:
Really don't see a problem with smoking marijuana as long as you are doing your job.
It's illegal for recreational use in Germany so that would be a problem for Garrett. That was also just one of several issues it sounds like with Garrett.
I know people who love to claim weed isn't addictive, but if you can't give it up for a few months because it's illegal for recreational use in the country you're going to be playing in, you might have an addiction problem.
I also find it very difficult to have any sympathy for Garrett in this situation because it sounds like he did zero research about what life is like for pro basketball players in Europe.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Say Goodnight to the Knights:
@Texas-Hawk-10 we beat ksu 51- 22 2008 biggest win
The Colorado comeback game was in 2010 with Gill. Has KU scored 50+ in a Big 12 game since that 2010 Colorado game though?
When was the last time KU scored 50+ in a Big 12 game? Was it Colorado in 2010?
Too bad we couldn't get a holding penalty on that drive so we could top 400 rushing yards and get McDuffie to 100 yards also.
Definitely didn't expect an ass whooping like this in the 1st half. Thought it'd be a mich more competitive game based on UCF's running abilities they had shown so far this year.