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@BShark said in Border War Game Thread:

Didn't want to bother with making a thread about this so I'll put it here.

That Missouri team is one of the worst coached teams I have seen us play against this year. I only watched a bit of the end of their game against Wichita in addition to this so idk how indicative this has been for them overall but it felt like the Texas Southern game again only Missouri was somewhat more skilled but quite possibly less athletic. I went and looked, Gates had a 55.6 winning percentage at Cleveland State. Interesting hire.

There was a lot of ridicule when he was hired because it didn't feel like they improved their coaching situation. I said above, yesterday was amazing from a coaching perspective because Missouri did everything you shouldn't do against this Kansas team. That was some of the worst game planning I've ever seen so I don't know which coach did the scouting report for KU, but that person sucks at the aspect of their job.

@Jethro said in Border War Game Thread:

@rockchalkjayhawk said in Border War Game Thread:

@justanotherfan said in Border War Game Thread:

KU cruised easily, but a couple issues to worry about for later in the season.

1. Self only trusts 7 guys on this roster, even in a blowout. Harris, Adams, McCullar, Dick, Wilson, Yesufu and Pettiford are the only guys Self is willing to give any run. We are vulnerable to injury or foul trouble because Self has set a tight seven man rotation. If we are healthy, we are fine, but if any of those 7 aren't available, that's trouble.

2. Lack of size is getting us beat up on the glass. Mizzou had 12 offensive boards. Irrelevant in a blowout, but without any size to go to off the bench, that is a continuing concern.

Great to blow out Mizzou (always). But KU has some things to sort out to prepare for March.

Yup, No. 1 above sure is bothersome. more Rice! today would have been a great game for him to get some run, in that free flowing offense at times. his specialty i'm guessing.

Cam had his chance, but Self got scared when they trimmed the lead a bit. He didn't really get a chance to show us what he can or can't do.

Odd take after a 29 point victory. So you think Self was "scared'? Really?

That was the point when Missouri got the lead under 15 and Cam had just given up an uncontested 3. He did not look like he belonged out there athletically. So I think Self was definitely a little nervous at that point because there was still more than enough for Missouri to come back with the momentum they had at that time. Bringing KJ and Harris back in is what stopped that run.

Today was exhibit A on why you don't press a running team. KU destroyed Missouri's press tonight. The way you beat Kansas is get back on defense, pack the paint, guard Dick, and force KU to play half court offense in a rock fight.

Missouri getting a full force blast of Gradey so far!

@FarmerJayhawk said in Border War Game Thread:

Why do they keep showing the couple times Miz got us

Because it's much rarer when they win.

Louisville and Florida St. are playing each other today with a combined record of 1-17. I know Louisville's issues, but I'm shocked by how bad FSU is because they're usually a pretty strong team.

@AsadZ said in Kansas basketball coach Bill Self says Jayhawks are healthy and ready for Saturday's showdown with Missouri:

I have not followed much so checking in from others on expectations from Martin?

If he plays, it's likely a good sign KU has repeated what they did to Misery last year.

KU by 27 over #12 in Tucson!

KU women are whooping #12 Arizona's ass by 21 after 3 quarters in Tucson.

He committed today

I have a ticket for the game and will be in Memphis from the 26th-29th. I've never been to Memphis before so would appreciate some ideas on things to do while there. I'm going to the Suns/Grizzlies game on the 27th and will probably go down to Beale St. after the game. I'm also planning on going to the Civil Right Museum.

I'd like ideas on some other things to do while there. Sight seeing, places to eat (I'd love to go to a top BBQ place there to see how Memphis BBQ stacks up to Texas and KC) or anything else that would be of interest to a first time visitor.

@Jethro said in Rice?:

CBS now has us playing against 5-7 Rice in the First Responder Bowl. I'm trying to suppress my ingrate tendency by not discussing how bummed I would be if this holds up. Rice? Really?

Payback would be nice for them beating us twice a few years back.

@mayjay said in 2022-23 stats-PER, Kenpom etc:

The next time I watch one of our 3 pt shots come up short while the shooter stays outside the arc, I am probably going to hurt myself hitting the tv.

The only person who has direct knowledge of a shot's likely distance is the shooter. Follow your short shot, get the rebound.

Guaranteed that's deliberate on Self's part as part of his team philosophy for this season. No team, unless they're just absolutely clueless, which this group isn't, is that bad without it being intentional strategy to get back on defense.

@benshawks08 said in Bowl bound!:

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I think one of Bill Self's favorite terms for soft applies to Missouri here. That's a match up that would've gotten me to drive up to Memphis and spend the money to go to that game. Much less likely I'll travel to Memphis now that that match up is seemingly off the table.

@wissox said in Other games:

Last season of the ACC/BIG challenge as the ACC backed out. Not sure it had to do with the BIG signing with FoxSports or if it was the BIG has regularly won the challenge the last 10 years or so. BIG not doing as well this year and will need to pick up some wins against the big boys of the league in order to win. Curious to see Indiana against Duke.

The ACC didn't back out. It's being replaced with an ACC/SEC challenge and it's because of the B10 no longer having a TV deal with ESPN and the ACC and SEC still having ESPN deals. It also means the B12/SEC challenge is coming to an end this season as well. I would expect the B12 and B10 to start something in the next year or two.

@Jethro said in Anyone concerned about losing Leipold to Nebraska?:

They have to improve the facilities asap. It's sad that it has to take a coach putting in his contract he'll leave if they don't improve the dang stadium. We're Kansas- we're not Ft Hays St.

What I've argued for years on different sites. Facility improvements are something that need to be proactive, not reactive. We saw a spike in recruiting a few years back when KU upgraded the locker rooms despite still being a mess on the field. With a quality staff and better team, having upgraded facilities will go a long way in keeping KU consistently of the basement for a long time.

It will also give KU the best shot at staying in a P5 league in the future.

@Gorilla72 said in Other games:

I see Houston is #1 on CBS Sports. They’ve played an easy early schedule and only have two ranked teams to play this year, at this point.

I’m going to watch tomorrow’s game. Has anyone watched them? Give me some hints as to what to watch for?

There's a reason they're a title favorite this year. Marcus Sasser is NPOY levels of good. They still have a few players from their Fonal Four team two years ago so this team is battle tested. They also have Kelvin Sampson who is a top 5 coach right now. He's done something even Self hasn't done in taking multiple schools to the Final Four. This is a team that has a shot to run the table year and are better suited to do so than Wichita St. was a few years ago.

I don't like our starters playing 30 minutes in this game, even with McCullar out. Yesufu doesn't bother me playing those minutes because he had to play multiple roles tonight, but definitely would've preferred Harris and Wilson being around 25 minutes.

It's also concerning that in a game like this, Clemence, Ejiofor, and Udeh played a combined 28 minutes and only took 3 shots. It's looking more and more like tge 5 spot is going to be an even bigger black hole on offense than when Landen Lucas was playing.

Hopefully this was Rice's coming out party and he can be the spark off the bench KU needs, but the 5 spot should be an even bigger concern after tonight's lack of offense behind KJ.

Also, didn't realize Shaq's son was on TSU.

@Kcmatt7 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

When does the MJ>McCullar talk start? Because I’m almost there myself

Depends on which end of the floor. MJ is the better offensive player, but McCullar is the better defensive player. Really might just come down to what KU's needs are on a given night who should get the crunch time minutes.

This is a game nobody should be playing more than 25 minutes unless it's a bench player. Yesufu needs to be playing a lot of PG tonight especially if Pettiford's going to be out awhile because that's the back up right now and he needs to get used to running the show instead of playing off ball because there's not another option right now. I'd also like to see all the post options play as well with KJ getting the fewest minutes. I'd also like to see Zach at the 4 for a few minutes because that's the position his game is most suited for. I'd also love to see Rice get a lot of minutes tonight and even get Jankovich some minutes because we're not far away from a scenario where he may have to play real minutes and tonight should be a low risk game to get him 5 or so minutes with non scout team players.

@BShark said in World Cup thread!:

Canada effed around and found out with Croatia. A game that should clearly dispel the "if the best athletes played" garbage but the people that spew that don't understand athleticism and aren't interested in discussion either.

I don't think yesterday disproves the best athletes thing because it's more complicated than just that. I don't think Canada's best athletes play soccer, hockey is their #1 sport and basketball, especially in the Toronto area where the biggest population pool is, as the second biggest sport.

Also, infrastructure and money matter at national team levels. How many Canadian soccer players are playing over in European top divisions compared to how many are playing in Canada or the MLS?

Compare that to Croatia and how many of their top players are playing in top leagues in Europe?

Canada's soccer program is where the US was about 10-15 years ago. If they keep investing, they'll have a chance to advance to the knockout rounds next World Cup because they have a lot of really good, young players. Davies is an incredible player and not even in his prime yet at only 22.

@wissox said in Other games:

Yeah I'm thinking that tournament might be seen as too good. UNC walks away with 2 losses which is survivable for them I guess. But most teams aren't going to like the potential to lose two games. MSU has to play Portland in a meaningless 5th place game and nearly lost to 5-4 mid-major Portland. Kudos to Sparty for beating Oregon in their homestate, but it makes me wonder how many teams are going to want to travel to the Pacific Northwest and risk two or even three losses.

Meanwhile Indiana holds their own 'invitational' and is 6-0 without having played anybody. And like the last 30 years since Bobby left they're being overrated. But Indiana fans won't tell you they're overrated. They think, to their credit I guess, that Indiana basketball is still relevant.

That tournament is two 8 team brackets and not any more loaded than other higher profile tournaments can be. One of the brackets had 4 ranked teams and the other had 3 ranked teams. That's not uncommon for some of the higher profile tournaments like Maui, Atlantis, or Orlando to have fields like that as well.

I also think tournaments like that early on are beneficial because it really exposes a team's strengths and weaknesses.

The only game I've seen of Indiana this year was their game against Xavier and IU looks like a solid team that should contend for the Big 10 this year and if KU plays like they did against Tennessee, IU could KU off the floor as well.

@wissox said in Other games:

@Texas-Hawk-10 Unless something changed that I'm not aware of we're still Adidas?

If Phil Knight is allowed to do that should the NCAA allow it? I'm no lawyer but it almost sounds like an anti-trust type thing or something. Maybe the great legal minds here can speak to that.

It doesn't violate any anti-trust stuff and it's not set up any different than the other November tournaments. Teams are invited the same way they're invited to Maui, Atlantis, KC, or any other preseason tournament.

@wissox said in Other games:

Anyone know if only Nike schools are being invited to Phil Knight's ego driven tournaments?

Yes, it's only Nike schools.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in KU vs ksu 🦃's:

Be nice to know if Hishaw will ever play again. Need an ace kicker! Was talk of Jalon moving to west coast, closer to family. He has gotten back to his old self. I'm hearing BYU, responders bowl?

Jerry Palm of CBS has that projected match up. ESPN's have KU in the Armed Forces Bowl on Dec. 22. One of 247's writers has KU in the Guaranteed Rate Bowl in Phoenix. Nobody has the Liberty Bowl against Missouri right now.

Looks like Wisconsin is going after Luke Fickell from Cincinnati.

The rebuild is headed in the right direction and a little bit ahead of schedule too because there weren't many who had KU pegged as a bowl team this year, most thought that would happen next season.

At the beginning of the season, the Athletic had an article about what a good rebuild should look like for a team as bad as KU has been. The first step was just building the confidence of the players to where they believed they could compete, not even win, but just compete. The OU game last year was huge for that and beginning of moving into that phase. The UT game obviously was huge as well because it was a breakthrough for this group. The following 2 games were even more important to this rebuild than the OU and UT games because KU followed the win up with playing close, competitive games to close the season. The TCU and WV games last year were the true turning point because usually whenever KU pulled an upset, it was just a one off performance and KU was back to getting blown out the following week. Those last two games backed up the UT win and showed there was real progress being made and a mentality shift happening with KU.

Coming into this season, we all knew the first half of the schedule was where KU's potential wins this season were coming from because it was against teams of similar talent level to KU. We saw that mentality shift in game one against Tennessee Tech where KU looked dominant over an inferior opponent that hadn't happened in recent history. The most important game this season for KU was the West Virginia game where backed up its week 1 performance and managed to win a road game early and built their confidence and KU beat everyone that was of similar caliber to them.

Even when Jalon Daniels got hurt, Bean was a capable back up who kept KU competitive and got the 6th win against an injury depleted OSU team. Most importantly for the rebuild though, even in KU's losses, they were mostly competitive and had a chance in the 4th quarter against everyone but Texas. Only one true blowout this season should have everyone excited for the future of this team.

We know the areas of weakness that need to be addressed and recruiting shows Leipold knows that too as most of the incoming HS players are on defense. I expect to see him keep building depth on the defense which was the biggest issue this year as they would just wear out bybthe 4th quarter because the depth isn't there yet.

We also know special teams needs to be addressed because that unit was a negative factor for KU far too many times and I'm not referring to Borcila exclusively, our return game was well below average most of the time, and our punter struggled to punt more than 40 yards on a consistent basis well so Those are things that need to be addressed in addition to Borcila.

I'm looking forward to seeing who Leipold adds to the defense and kicking game through the portal and what we look like in the bowl game this year as those practices are going to be huge for the future.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Anyone concerned about losing Leipold to Nebraska?:

@Texas-Hawk-10 I don’t think so. Utah isn’t a bad loss, but neither is Michigan.

USC has the better resume to me. Each has an 11 point home win over Notre Dame as their signature win, Ohio St. has the better 2nd best win with PSU being a better win than UCLA, but the nature of the losses make the difference to me. USC lost by one on the road to Utah on a 2 point conversation at the end of the game while Ohio St. got blown out at home by Michigan. USC is also playing for a conference title and Ohio St. isn't and that's traditionally mattered to the committee.

Does USC jump Ohio St. in the playoff rankings this week?

@wissox said in Anyone concerned about losing Leipold to Nebraska?:

Hard to overturn the Casey catch.

Casey wasn't celebrating like he caught it after that play. I thought it was a good overturn.

Hopefully Neal just misses a play or two. That's who KU cannot afford to lose even more than Daniels.

Not sure what they're reviewing, clear fumble and KSU recovery unfortunately.

That's a momentum killer.

@rockchalkjayhawk said in Anyone concerned about losing Leipold to Nebraska?:

If we hadn't given away that free touchdown early on, a KU FG could win it! :)

Should be tied. A special teams mistake also set up the safety.

The two other areas of focus need to be special teams because that's hurt KU a bunch this year and not just the kicker. We also need to clean up penalties because it seems like we usually have 2 or 3 per game that end up being drive killers and are dumb mental mistakes.

KU is close to being a really good team.

I think KU beats KSU next season. Our offense is good enough to hang with everyone else in the B12. Give Leipold and Borland another off-season to upgrade the defense (DLine specifically) and next year could see KU finish top half of the league and flip a couple of the close losses this year into wins.

@jayballer67 said in 2023 croots:

Guys got two questions .One is , isn't Spencer Rattler - - Didn't he use to play for Oklahoma the QB ? - -& 2nd if I'm not mistaking and very easily could be but If I'm not mistaking I think we have played TCU the closest anyone has played them this year right ? - 38- - - -31

We're at best TCU's third closest game. Last week, they kicked a game winning FG as time expired down 2 to win by 1 against Baylor and they went to double OT against OSU after erasing a 14 point 4th quarter deficit.

@jayballer67 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:

@Jethro said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:

@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:

@FarmerJayhawk not at all I explained to you. Just because you are in a power 5 conference doesn’t make you legit competition

Maybe we'll let you polish our national championship trophy!

Jethro , you didn't listen we not winning a National Championship with Coach Self - not with a Bill Self team. Ol wise one said so

This team without developing the bench and developing at least one other consistent scorer isn't winning a national title this year and may not win the B12 this year. This team has all of the hallmarks of Bill Self's teams that have suffered early exits in the NCAA Tournament.

We only have 5 games left before conference play starts and TSU on Monday is the only cupcake of those 5 games. Seton Hall has a good defense and good coach that took St. Peter's to the Elite 8 last year. Missouri has a looked good so far, albeit against cupcakes, but it's a rivalry game on the road. Indiana is more than capable of running KU out of the gym like Tennessee did. Harvard should be a cupcake, but they've given KU issues in the past so we'll see.

Point is, Self may not have the opportunities to develop the bench without potentially sacrificing some wins which goes against Self's philosophy.

@jayballer67 said in Anyone concerned about losing Leipold to Nebraska?:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Anyone concerned about losing Leipold to Nebraska?:

@jayballer67 said in Anyone concerned about losing Leipold to Nebraska?:

Wrap up the regular season tonight. - - Hoping to be competitive. Afraid Vaughn runs wils , Howard picks our secondary apart been pretty shaky all year, I thinks that's where we need the most help , the defensive side of the ball

I think a lot of how this game goes is on how KU approachs it. - -Do we play Jalen take the chance on he re-injuring and then not be available for the Bowl game ?
Do we play Bean and sit Jalen ? -- OR do we sit both Jalen & Jason - -play our freshman Vasko , give he gain experience & stil not lose his red shirt and save BOTH Jalen & Jason for the bowl?
Hoping for the best. Play competitive - -play hard -- look forward

A KU win A) ends the 13 year streak, B) knocks KSU out of the B12 title game, and C) IT'S KSU, GO BEAT THEM!!! Beating KSU doesn't happen with Vasko or Bean starting at QB.

I pretty much agree. Only question is Jalen 100 % now ?

Nobody is 100% in game 12 of a season. Unless the bowl game ends up being against Missouri, I don't really care about winning or losing that game as much as I care about beating KSU. Getting the extra practices from being in a bowl game are far more important than the outcome of that bowl game right now for KU.

@jayballer67 said in Other games:

Can someone please define the responsibilities of a PG ? - -there seems to be a difference of opinion with some here.
I always thought and or heard that a PG duties was to run the team like a QB - set the offense , distribute to others getting them shots , open looks & some Scoring , making the assists

People saying 9.0 is NOT enough - -need to score more. - If you have your others doing what they should then 9 points a game should be sufficient.

As ew know are we should know this team right now has serious limitations. As been mentioned before -we have got to get somebody else to be able to score the ball. Most of or at least a lot of the problems center around our 5. -we have just got to get something out of them - -we have to get something out of our bench. -other then last night with Joe scoring and that was out of necessity with Juan foul problems we have gotten zelch from the bench.

I would think Zach would be the logical choice. - -Seen a little flash last year, hasn't really shown yet this year , but if he is on he is a big that can stretch the floor, pull opposition away from the basket - -Ernest & Zuby better rebounders - -just no offensive skills at this point at all. - If we could get Zach off the snide other tteams would be more forced to play honestly instead of sagging off others

There's different styles of PG and Self has traditionally preferred PG's who look to score so Harris definitely breaks that mold of what we expect out of a Bill Self PG. Under Self, he's had what I would consider to be 4 PG's that don't fit the mold of a score first PG. Aaron Miles whom he inherited from Roy. Russell Robinson who came to KU with a reputation as a big time scorer, Naadir Tharpe, and now Harris amd none of those 4 were Self's first choice at PG other than Miles because he inherited him. Robinson was known as a scorer in HS and when that didn't translate to KU, Self tried making Chalmers the PG first before handing the keys to Robinson. Thorpe was something like the 7th or 8th option in his class and KU ended up with him because of a bunch of recruiting misses around the time Self was way off on recruiting and had a bunch of misses and desperate signings. Harris was pretty similar to Tharpe in that regard in that he wasn't Self's first choice and done more as a favor to Braun, but has obviously far outperformed his recruiting ranking.

As far as actual on court style, Harris has a very similar game to Aaron Miles in that neither were good shooters, neither looked to get their own shot first, and both were happier to create for others. A lot of the complaints against Harris stem from the fact we're so used to seeing our PG be either first or second in scoring because that's Self's preferred style of PG play.

I will also say that the roster composition for both title teams was very similar. A play making PG with the scoring PG as the 6th man (Robinson-Collins, Harris-Martin), a second guard that could shoot lights out (Chalmers, Braun), a wing that could do a little bit of everything (Rush, Agbaji), a 4 that could drive and clean up on glass (Arthur, Wilson), and a 5 that was serviceable, but not flashy (Jackson/Kaun, McCormack). Obviously those two teams had their own individual strengths and weaknesses (2008 was much better in defense and 2022 was much better on offense), but there were a lot of similarities with how those teams were constructed in March.

@jayballer67 said in Anyone concerned about losing Leipold to Nebraska?:

Wrap up the regular season tonight. - - Hoping to be competitive. Afraid Vaughn runs wils , Howard picks our secondary apart been pretty shaky all year, I thinks that's where we need the most help , the defensive side of the ball

I think a lot of how this game goes is on how KU approachs it. - -Do we play Jalen take the chance on he re-injuring and then not be available for the Bowl game ?
Do we play Bean and sit Jalen ? -- OR do we sit both Jalen & Jason - -play our freshman Vasko , give he gain experience & stil not lose his red shirt and save BOTH Jalen & Jason for the bowl?
Hoping for the best. Play competitive - -play hard -- look forward

A KU win A) ends the 13 year streak, B) knocks KSU out of the B12 title game, and C) IT'S KSU, GO BEAT THEM!!! Beating KSU doesn't happen with Vasko or Bean starting at QB.

Matt Rhule has officially been named the next head coach at Nebraska.

@dylans said in Other games this week:

I’d hate to be a Texas fan depending on KU to beat KSU in football. Yikes. They typically wax KU like it’s their national championship. It’s crazy they get hyped like KU is relevant every year. Leipold is correct it’s time to hold up our end of the deal, but that may be a year off.

I think it'll be a much more competitive game than last week. Probably a KSU win, but I think KU covers.

@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:

@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:

@Texas-Hawk-10 it isn’t all Harris fault but if he’s the winner Bill says - winners take over when the other guys can’t score.

I also generally believe that unless the bench is developed, this team has a hallmarks of a Round of 32/Sweet 16 team.

Don’t say that too loud you’ll be blocked and labeled not a fan for being realistic

I agree unless bigger bigs and mj get going we are an early out

I'm used to it. I was one of the few that said KU would get run by USC a couple of years ago because they were a terrible match up for that team. This is going to be one of those years where we see KU play a lot of games in the 50's and 60's and have to play Badball to win.

@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:

@jayballer67 I agree with this win and lose as a team just more fun to analyze the why’s

Kj gets so many offensive long rebounds but is awful on the defensive it which I don’t understand

KJ is 6-7 with short arms, that's why he sucks at defensive rebounding. I'd be curious to know what his wingspan actually is because I'm guessing it's probably about 77 inches which would mean KJ plays at about 6-5.

@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:

@Texas-Hawk-10 that and UT clogged the paint playing off everyone except Gradey so Wilson and Mccullar’s driving lanes were non existent

I said it will be a long night for Wilson and Gradey which means other guys have to score

Our scout is easy

Let Juan shoot as many times from deep as he wants

KJ - only scores on lobs

Kevin - let him shoot

Wilson - double him every time he drives

Gradey - whoever guards him does not help

Juan’s guy helps when Wilson drives or Kevin’s.

I don't disagree with that scout because I've said basically the same thing multiple times and you know that and why I've been big on getting Clemence going because his game is what helps everyone because he's a big that stretches the floor and would open the lanes up for Wilson and McCullar to drive more.

@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:

@Texas-Hawk-10 it isn’t all Harris fault but if he’s the winner Bill says - winners take over when the other guys can’t score.

Good teams will slow Wilson and Gradey down as they can out athlete them. Kevin is the third scorer but if you know the game or watch he’s a defensive specialist and rebounder not some 15ppg guy.

Teams can matchup better with Wilson and Gradey and Juan must score more

Gradey will hopefully be harder to slow down as the year goes on and he gets more comfortable with the offense and learns how to move without the ball better. I generally agree about Wilson because I've always said he was a below average athlete and is a slightly better version of Perry Ellis.

I also generally believe that unless the bench is developed, this team has a hallmarks of a Round of 32/Sweet 16 team.

@jayballer67 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:

@jayballer67 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:

@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:

@jayballer67 erase it nah - Zuby will rebound he’s the best of the 4

Well not sure if you know or not but that 6'7 guy your talking about KJ is KU's leading rebounder tonight - so ya lets take him out and put Zuby in. - -I know maybe Zuby gonna score more then KJ - -doubt it - sure Kj only has 4 points - but again leading rebounder this game and thats what we ARE talking about he has 7 rebounds and 4 points. -Right now it takes Zuby or Ernest 5 games to score 4 points. -& KJ much much better defensively then Ernst or Zuby is close to being. - -So really not sure what the hell your thinking is thinking we would be better with them in

All but 1 of KJ's rebounds are offensive tonight. He has only 1 rebound on defense. And this is a big problem for KU because KJ is the worst defensive rebounding big Self has ever had. KU absolutely has to get one of the other post players going because KJ's defensive rebounding is an issue that has to fixed at some point.

It wa the ENTIRE teams was an issue tonight - as bad as things were , they would of been a ot worse with 2nd and third chances if it was for KJ's rebounding

Again, KJ only had 1 defensive rebound tonight. Tennessee grabbed 15 offensive rebounds to our 17 defensive rebounds tonight. It was basically 50/50 on who got the ball after a Tennessee miss tonight and KJ did nothing to help that because he got 1 defensive rebound tonight.

@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:

@jayballer67 you forget your own posts? Put the bottle down man

You said 9 ppg from Juan would cut it

I outlined how that only gets us 57 points in reality which ain’t winning many games this year against real competition

So your theory that 9 ppg Juan is enough I “outlined it” for you that the math doesn’t work. Dude has to score more

Harris scoring 9 ppg is where he should be as the 4th scorer on a this team amd don't use the worst game of his career tonight as justification when Wilson was 13 below his average tonight and Dick 10 below his.

If Harris was the only player with a bad game tonight leading to this loss, then you'd have a point, but other than Yesufu, everyone else for KU played like shit tonight. Our starters were 10-37 from the field and 3-13 from 3.

We all know that something needs to happen with the bench to develop some more depth and scoring, but trying blame tonight on Harris is just plain ignoring everyone else that played like shit tonight too.