The Spanish flu pandemic of 1918, the deadliest in history, infected an estimated 500 million people worldwide—about one-third of the planet's population—and killed an estimated 20 million to 50 million victims, including some 675,000 Americans.
Good thing we all have access to healthcare and modern medicine now.......
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@Crimsonorblue22 thanks for this
@Crimsonorblue22 we gotchu! Keep posting. I'll keep up.
@DoubleDD this is where having a president as a thoughtful leader matters.
My neighbors, good people all, are still standing in the cul de sac as we speak talking to one another at close distance while their kids play together. If we had a president whom they respected mandating that they not do this, they would not be doing it.
He's both stupid and malicious and it's some combination of ignorance and narcissism that had led him to avoid mandating social distancing. The path we are on will not lead to flattening the curve, as Director of Institute of Infectious Disease, Dr Fauci would like to do. This thing will still "flow through the country like a wave" as Trump said but the casualties and strain on the health system will be bad. And if he realizes this, then he is ok with many more deaths than are necessary when the health system is overwhelmed. Maybe he thinks the strain on the economy will be less? He had a "natural talent" for being a heartless moron and many will likely needlessly die because of him.
I'm blown away that we are not mandating a social distancing policy. I hope the labs start testing soon.
They haven't talked about the restaurant industry but it's going to get crushed. Nobody will want someone else preparing their food.
Florida State would be a tough out and Hamilton had them playing at a high level for sure. But Kansas was better.
@Texas-Hawk-10 lol. Leave it to the crazy Floridians.
I think the NCAA will back the f down after this. Nobody is going to be calling for bloodletting. BC (Before Coronavirus) vs AD (After Da Coronavirus)
@jayballer73 all good. You stocked up to ride this one out a while?
@jayballer73 actually if you agree that the issues I listed are important right now, I am arguing that these are the exact issues Bernie Sanders has been talking about and focused on for 30 years. Nobody cares more about these issues than Bernie Sanders.
Give me Sanders in the White House and a democratic house and Senate. The House and Senate will be close to Center and a lot will get done.
To clarify, my point is Bernie would murder Trump in a debate right now. In the general, I don't know. I wish people would realize that the issues raised by progressives are the real issues even if the solutions aren't as practical as they would like.
We need to strive for the right goals right now.
@jayballer73 the important thing, in my opinion, for regular Fox viewers to consider is that the reasons behind the progressive agenda are valid.
We need to ensure the health of our citizens (see our current predicament).
Our citizens need enough wealth to be able to deal with unforseen circumstances without financial ruin (see our current predicament).
Our citizens need healthcare and time off from work that is adequate (see our current predicament).
The financial powers behind the Republican party and Fox news do not want any of these problems addressed. If you don't agree with Bernie Sanders solutions that does not make these problems go away. But notice no mention of any real solutions to these problems coming from the right.
This is the boiling point.
Consider one man who wants to do something about it and another that wants to pretend the problem doesnt exist (see Trump saying that there are 15 cases and that number is going down 3 weeks ago when this problem could have been contained) and now is showing complete incompetence in handling the issue.
Give me the guy who actually gives a shit about this country and other people.
Bernie Sanders would murder Donald Trump in a debate.
A good summary of the many failings of Trump over COVID-19 response as written by a lifelong Republican:
Bernie would murder Trump in a debate after this. His address today was on the money.
💯 happy bday!
There should be no more talk about postseason bans for Kansas. It should end here.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in So ya, there ARE still people out thre with Big hearts and kindess:
@approxinfinity The Tigers owner gave Rosa Parks a rent free apartment in Detroit until her death.
That is fantastic. :heart_suit:
https://nhl.nbcsports.com/2020/03/13/no-fans-no-work-arena-workers-caught-in-sports-shutdown/ ↗
Love, Giannis, Zion, Redwings / Tigers owners paying for remainder of season (?). Yup, there are some big hearts amongst the rich, no doubt (it also makes sense to take care of your staff. WE ARE ALL CONNECTED!). There is a silver lining to everything!
I can agree that mortality rate among the young could be ok. However, unless the estimates from the CDC for total deaths and hospitalizations get revised, they're still staggering.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/487489-worst-case-coronavirus-models-show-massive-us-toll ↗
Statistical models meant to project the potential reach of the coronavirus and the COVID-19 disease suggest more than a million Americans could die if the nation does not take swift action to stop its spread as quickly as possible.
At least three different models built by epidemiology experts suggest that millions of Americans will contract the coronavirus, even in optimistic projections, based on what they know of its spread in China and the United States so far.
One model from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) suggested that between 160 million and 210 million Americans could contract the disease over as long as a year. Based on mortality data and current hospital capacity, the number of deaths under the CDC's scenarios ranged from 200,000 to as many as 1.7 million.
It found as many as 21 million people might need hospitalization, a daunting figure in a nation with just about 925,000 hospital beds.
Almost all the people I have talked to in public the last few days have been dismissive of the severity of COVID-19. I just went to pick up my wife's car and the mechanic told me his father in law went home sick. I told him good on him to send him home. He seemed embarassed to have done so. I brought up Coronavirus, and he started telling me numbers about how many people the flu killed last year. So far, when it has become clear that people are working with talking points from a position on the right I have disengaged, mostly because I want to get home. But I've felt that maybe I should be arming them with an alternate view.
So I told him coronavirus has a 2% mortality rate in China, and that is 20 x that of the flu. And that i'd assumed China had a worse healthcare system. However, in Italy it is 6% mortality. So if we don't take care like Italy didn't take care, it's going to be bad. I told him that the secretary of health in Ohio estimates the number of ohioans with coronavirus to be 1% or 116000 because of community transmission and that we should wait until tests are administered before we know the stats accurately around coronavirus. At that point he barked at me twice "WASH YA HANDS!!" as I walked out the door.
Have we been conditioned to believe that all truth is subjective?
Can this guy emotionally handle the truth that Coronavirus is a serious threat if he came to accept it?
Do I need to be careful what I wish for? What exactly would people like this guy do when people start dying around him and our infrastructure is overwhelmed by sick people?
Is it better if some people remain in the dark, always?
Cancelling the KU Buckets meet and greet! :face_with_tears_of_joy:
@jayballer73 wishing her the best man. Scary times. Get in and get out. :crossed_fingers:
He should have declared shutting the schools down the first time around. But he's a stupid a-hole, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
Bernie Sanders to talk at 3 about the crisis.
CDC chief has the right vested in law to declare that he will pay for all coronavirus tests and promised to do so when questioned about it.
@Texas-Hawk-10 It seems like the right hting to do is to not cancel the tournament. I wonder if they can walk that one back if things get under control.
I kind of expect him to come back. Please come back @jaybate-1-0 !
@DoubleDD said in Donald Trump's Public Service Announcement:
What is really sad? You guys are hoping trump fails. So many Americans can die. So you can get a president more to your liking. So sad
See this is exactly the problem that I previously stated. Trump is a floundering blackhole that sucks all attention away from the actual issue at hand. I don't hope he fails. He fails regardless of how I feel. I just want him and this twisted Stockholm sydrome logic to get out of our lives. Do you honestly think I want people to die so we can get rid of Trump? Might want to walk that one back.
@Texas-Hawk-10 nice avatar!
@bskeet I appreciated Colbert's commentary on that:
“Here’s the thing,” Colbert said Monday. “We can criticize Trump’s golfing and tweeting. But when he hunkers down and focuses on the problem, that’s when he really sucks.”
To illustrate his point, Colbert cited Trump's appearance at the Center for Disease Control in Atlanta on Friday, which included the president claiming he might have a “natural ability” for science in part because his uncle had attended MIT.
“I don’t care how smart your uncle was—epidemiology is not genetic,” a flabbergasted Colbert said on Monday. “You don’t get your mother’s eyes and your father’s Ph.D.—knowledge does not get passed down. That’s why, no matter how much we all know it now, future generations are going to have to learn for themselves that you’re an idiot.”
It's ok that the tournament was cancelled because, you know, there weren't any dominant teams...
@DoubleDD Listen to this for an explanation of how our policies are falling short: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/12/podcasts/the-daily/coronavirus-pandemic.html ↗
@DoubleDD the problem is that every single thing this president has ever said or done is through the lens of what is best for him. Responding to coronavirus cannot be about him. But he makes it about him, choosing self-flattering words and policies. he's a floundering blackhole that sucks all attention away from the actual issue at hand. It's absolutely not what we need right now.
Rudy Gobert tested positive. NBA season
Suspended.
Well look @kjayhawks . We're past just closing the borders. We are past just quarantining individuals.
The disease is spreading in the wild and we need a clearly defined social distancing policy, if not enforced then strongly recommended. He doesn't want to eat his words about having only 15 cases in the US when he was sticking his head in the sand. He needs to act like a leader and communicate the best policy, which is social distancing.
His advice to Americans: use proper hygiene. No explanation of a social distancing policy. Tax breaks and 50 billion dollars for select businesses, blocking all incoming from Europe including goods.
This seems completely ineffective.
I'm going 100% remote at work starting today. Social distancing is the only sure answer.
I hope the debate on March 15th isn't a disaster for the Democrats, however it shapes up.
It's a pleasure having Chris Beard in the league.
@DanR has it been 5.1 days since you got coughed on?
Should I start selling "Obama Biden Klobuchar 2020" bumper stickers now?
@kjayhawks said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:
@approxinfinity bully haha 😂 😂😂😂
Nah man you got me wrong :)
@jayballer73 Please excuse the edit. Moved to Politics and World Affairs category and made it clear that it's the coronavirus thread since it's become that.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Bernie vs. Biden:
They all are to old!
:face_with_tears_of_joy: if only we had a candidate that was less than half their age ;)
@FarmerJayhawk if Biden has a very bad senior moment then things can change. Other than that I agree with you, it's over.
@FarmerJayhawk there is still the possibility that Bernie murders Biden in the debate March 15th.
@FarmerJayhawk wellp. Biden better not F this up.
Good analysis, all!