@DoubleDD President of South Korea. Has done a better job handling the coronavirus.
@DoubleDD Moon Jae-in
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 Thereâs a difference between being united and having blind faith. Voicing frustration does not mean we arenât united. You proved how to do that yourself. You voiced your problem with what someone said while maintaining your connection through basketball. Unity is good but doesnât absolve someone from bad leadership.
Bad leadership? Says who ? You. When did you become an expert on leadership? I mean your boy Obama and the Biben team did a worse job on H1N1.
I donât know, how about the American citizens join forces And keep a virus at bay. But no letâs play politics.
Absolutely amazing that you advocate not âplaying politicsâ in a post where you use the classic what about Obama tactic.
Shutting down flights from China was a good move. But can you honestly everything sense then has been âperfect,â â10/10â? Yesterday he put recommendations for an unproven medication combination to treat the virus causing a run on essential medication for people with Lupis. Heâs taken every opportunity to âplay politicsâ and bash Biden whenever he has a chance. Just blind worship from you on trump at this point.
You bring up transgender people for no reason at all and then whine and complain that this isnât a safe place for you and itâs not âfair and balancedâ (wonder where you got that one...). Whose the real snowflake here? This had been a pretty civil thread until you took it off the rails. Most of us arenât actually talking republican vs dem but you choose to see it that way. Look above for praise all around for a variety of republican governors from myself and others. So who is really âplaying politics?â
Also, interesting you donât protest the racist and sexist accusations. If you donât like being labeled such things, maybe donât spew hateful rhetoric.
If you want to see what real thoughtful debate and disagreement looks like, check out @FarmerJayhawk. A real pro at disagreeing with someone, providing true support for an argument, and never making it or taking it personal. No point trying that with you in your current state.
@jayballer73 Thereâs a difference between being united and having blind faith. Voicing frustration does not mean we arenât united. You proved how to do that yourself. You voiced your problem with what someone said while maintaining your connection through basketball. Unity is good but doesnât absolve someone from bad leadership.
Pretty good game on Cbs right now! Rock chalk.
Hereâs another article with some interesting takes.
https://medium.com/ â@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56
@BShark said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:
A guy I know has a two year old daughter with a 105 degree fever. Hoping it's not the rona.
I hope this kid is going to the ER despite rona concerns. Iâm not a doctor but isnât 105 burning brain cell territory? Hopefully itâs actually 100.5? My mom used to say the latter as âone hundred and fiveâ and will argue to this day that âandâ represents the .
Hope that fever comes down.
Went to the store in Austin yesterday. Plenty of food if you arenât too picky. A LOT of fresh food but out of specific things like eggs, pasta, cleaning supplies. Restaurants still serving to go and drive through. Iâm betting the runs at stores will slow down in the next 3 weeks once people start to realize the food isnât going away and at some point you have to eat all the crap you just bought!
@FarmerJayhawk But why would there be incentive for someone to share inside information? Doesnât the value of that information decrease the more people who know it? Iâm confused what you think I got right! Your ceo example just gives me even more reservations because again the person at the top with the most power, influence, and information about a company has an advantage over say a worker who is invested in their own company. If the ceo starts selling doesnât that devalue the stock for the worker down the chain who has shares? And if the ceo were to share that information widely, who would buy the stock sheâs trying to unload?
I am really trying to understand this and am doing some extra reading on the google machine but I still end up thinking insider trading is bad and what these politicians did especially so. Didnât their actions lead to the increase in market volatility? Again. I am an English major reading articles on twitter and the rest of the internet for my information so I could be off here. (I did win my class stock market game in 5th grade...)
@FarmerJayhawk Ok admittedly Iâm a bit of a finance dullard but if someone is selling stocks they know are about to drop isnât the victim whoever buys it? If that buyer is another mutual fund, arenât all the investors in that fund hurt? If itâs just an individual, isnât that individual now less likely to invest in the future and doesnât that cause the public to lose faith in the âfairnessâ of the overall market as a whole?
And o get that the whole idea of the stock market is trying to invest in stocks you think will do well and sell ones you think might drop. But I guess Iâm more afraid of corporate greed than I am of regulation. That seems to be the big crux of it right? I know specifically in this instance with the senators we have examples of the failings of government certainly working to invalidate my own point.
Side note: it is very refreshing to disagree with and question someone and for the dialogue to stay friendly and informative.
I would say the public is the victim much like the environment in my example. Itâs a big victim that is difficult to attribute acute damage but the overall damage over time is apparent. Insider trading leads to more inequity as it allows the rich and powerful to mitigate losses and get in early on gains that normal folks canât. And while there will always be inequity, once it gets to a certain point it becomes unsustainable.
@FarmerJayhawk For me the example you gave is exactly why I think insider trading is bad. The example with counting shoppers at Walmart could technically be done by anyone with the creativity and drive to do so while getting a text from the waltons is totally based on power and connections. Just in my gut one feels like working for an advantage where the other doesnât.
Personally, Iâm against giving people who already are privileged with so many advantages over normal folks even greater advantages. But thatâs my bleeding heart lefty liberal that drove HEM mad. I recognize that the world and life are inherently unfair but that doesnât mean we canât create rules to try and make it at least a little more fair.
Itâs like golf restricting club makers to build new clubs within a certain tolerance. If they didnât regulate materials, constructions, and tolerances, the game would be completely different and likely not be able to exist anymore as balls would go further and further requiring courses to get longer and longer in a game that already has an environmental sustainability problem.
@FarmerJayhawk $10,000 a table doesnât seem like ânormal folksâ to me. But maybe thatâs just me. Iâm interested to know more about why you think insider trading should be legal. Specifically in a situation like this where politicians are getting access to possibly classified information (certainly no available to normal folks). You believe they should be able to profit on info like that? Just curious why?
Ok I havenât even looked at the letters next to their names yet but every politician that set in a meeting about coronavirus, dumped stock, and did nothing to warn the public or prepare the government to combat the spread of COVID-19 is just trash. As of now it looks like there are at least 4 senators who set in on a briefing and then pulled big money from the stock market and/or invested heavily in telecom companies.
The dude who told all his donors at his $10.000 A table lunch is maybe the worst offender as he clearly took it seriously In private but not in âpublic.â
Am I wrong here? Are they just making smart business decisions with their ex theme wealth?
@approxinfinity Case in Texas traces back to someone returning from south padre. The beaches were definitely a bad choice.
@jayballer73 Same here man. Staying in is not as easy as just pop on Netflix and itâs all good. Really sorry if I contributed to any further anxiety for you. Not my intent.
Some interesting stats on media coverage and peopleâs response to the pandemic. Just stats for the most part with little commentary. Thoughts?
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@jayballer73 wasnât trying to criticize friend just pointing out how fear and panic spread. Didnât mean to imply you shouldnât share your thoughts and feelings. Just trying to think collectively right now in an individualist society. Again, nothing but love, stay safe, rock chalk buddy.
@BShark I had success last week with a late night run and over the weekend mid day at the Asian market. Racism of others helped me get good groceries.
To be fair I havenât tried this week so I donât know the current state of things. I usually buy groceries for a week at a time. And am guilty of over the weekend probably getting 2 weeks instead of one.
Here are some things the government could be doing now but arenât apparently. I will applaud the administration of these things get handled in a timely manner. If looking forward is the only way letâs do that.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/coronavirus-surge-hospitals-trump-beds-respirators-ventilators-fema-cdc.html â
And @jayballer73 letâs try not to add any more fear to this situation. Giving voice and legs to stuff like you wrote above is how that stupid stuff starts happening. The grocery stores continue to be empty only because people keep posting pictures of empty grocery stores. We have a responsibility as citizens to maintain order ourselves and not devolve into chaos. Itâs totally understandable to be scared but we canât let that fear overtake reason and order. The more people discuss the scenario you mention above the more likely it is to happen. So please consider that before posting more worst case scenarios. Nothing but love for ya. For real.
Kansas schools closed for the rest of the school year. Distance learning plans being created now. First state to do that.
Another good one with first hand accounts for a doc in Seattle.
https://www.gq.com/story/inside-americas-coronavirus-testing-crisis â
@DoubleDD I totally agree that everyone makes mistakes and that a bad decision doesnât make someone a bad person most of the time (obviously depending on the severity of the decision). However, for me, failing to admit ANY mistake or failing does make someone a bad person. How can a person learn if unwilling to admit fault or error? I make mistakes all the time. Sometimes those mistakes hurt other people. I expect from my president what I expect from my family, my colleagues, myself, and my students. Admit when your wrong and learn from it. Itâs not an easy thing to do but it is always the right thing to do.
I also agree that our focus needs to be looking forward on how to best combat the spread of this virus. But if we go forward blindly without acknowledging where and when mistakes may have been made, we are likely to continue to see a similar pattern of failings in the future. Itâs why coaches and players watch game film of their previous games not just their upcoming opponents.
Self reflection is a powerful tool for learning. I sincerely hope our president uses it to be more successful moving forward. (Evidence indicates he wonât)
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
âI donât take any responsibility at allâ pretty much sums it up.
Yea thatâs a pretty broad statement. Care to be more specific?
Itâs what donald trump said when asked why he gutted the cdc specifically the pandemic Response team in 2018 and if he took any responsibility for the delay in testing availability in the USA (you know, the country he runs).
More than that it seems to be his general attitude toward any happening that isnât a great success. Further evidenced by his rating of his own response to this crisis as a â10 out of 10.â
Who needs sports?! We can all just watch mental gymnastics all day long.
âI donât take any responsibility at allâ pretty much sums it up.
And just to show this isnât Democrat vs republican, there are many Republican
Governors across the country stepping up, taking advice from scientists and leading the response in their states. The governor of Ohio has done an especially good job maybe the best in the country so far in my opinion.
@approxinfinity donât forget the careless language and inability to read a teleprompter leading to mass confusion in airports, on airplanes, both here, abroad and in between.
The lies about âtestingâ everyone returning from overseas.
The failure to beef up staffing to handle the influx of people going through customs at DFW, Chicago, and elsewhere forcing hundreds to maybe thousands of people to stand shoulder to shoulder amid a pandemic.
@DoubleDD Never admit your wrong. Deny deny deny. Deflect deflect deflect. Blame blame blame. Attack attack attack. Get a new playbook.
On a less serious note I donât think many of you are clicking on the link I shared above and I would highly encourage you to do so for a good laugh.
@FarmerJayhawk donât worry. He said itâs under terrific control. That must mean it is, right?
Edit: tremendous control. Got my Trumpisms mixed up. (See how when I mess up I acknowledge the mistake and try to correct it?)
A very important Coronavirus update:
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@FarmerJayhawk Yeah just reading more about the corona virus sick leave bill and feeling disappointed that dems allowed the republicans to get an exemption for employers with more than 500 employees which ends up being about half of all workers. And honestly if Super Tuesday were this coming Tuesday I think the dem result might be a little different.
Itâs not really a dem v rep thing and leaders all around need to step up right now or step aside.
And this I think is not good.
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@DoubleDD said in Donald Trump's Public Service Announcement:
Sounds like to me they are on the same page. In fact it appears they are changing how America handles these outbreaks in the future. Crazy thing a lot of countries are following suit. Interesting?
Is this what delusion looks like? Kind of validating that whole âshoot someone on broadwayâ line from several years ago.
Two official cases in Austin now. They got it from the Houston rodeo. School cancelled today starting spring break a day early. With the current lack of testing we have no idea how many people really have this thing right now. The barriers to getting tested are just ridiculous.
There is a real part of me that is still holding onto hope that Dotson comes back. He as much as any player this year had that chip that @drgnslayr loves to write about. He wanted to prove he was capable of leading a team to the championship. It didn't sit well with him that his team lost KU "the streak" and his goal was to get a championship to repair his legacy. If you go back and watch games, as much as Doke was starting to dominate, Dotson was really coming into his own as a leader. Whenever KU needed a bucket, he went and got it. Every run by opposing teams in the last month was halted by a Devon Dotson drive or 3 pointer. I really hope he comes back but if he doesn't I will miss him.
@bskeet It's official. It's cancelled. Not sure if you heard.
@DoubleDD Also, curing cancer doesn't absolve you from the responsibility of being a decent human being, which is I think most people's real problem with Trump.
@DoubleDD Trump certainly isn't the ONLY problem but arguing he isn't problematic at this point is pretty absurd.
@bskeet said in Donald Trump's Public Service Announcement:
I think the biggest thing a president can do is set an appropriate tone by speaking clearly and speaking the truth.
That starts with putting the interests of others ahead of his own. It means listening to experts and not dismissing and contradicting them. And it means avoiding over-statements, exaggerations and hyperbole.
I think this president has pattern of behavior that proves he is incapable of meeting ANY of these requirements.
In ANY business in the world other than a family-run business, this kind of incompetence would get you fired.
Yeah pretty much this.
@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:
If they want to make an actual impact stoppage of a few basketball games isnât it. Thatâs just optics. All flights need to be stopped. All public transportation needs to stop. Ban groups of over 100 - sucks for bigger businesses as they wonât even be able to run right. Stop all inter-state traffic. Donât allow people into or out of areas with known infection. Etc.
Cancelling games is window dressing and frankly a bunch of crap unless itâs just the start of something more sweeping.
That's how they seem to be flattening the curve elsewhere. Exponential growth is hard to wrap a brain around.
@bskeet Yeah totally. I'm on a group text with a concert promoter, a project manager at a major movie theater company, a lawyer, a non-profit employee, and a film editor, and just about all of them are voicing fears about the immediate future of their employment and livelihood. Those fears are very real but also hard to gauge the true future impact of this pandemic. Most of us in that text thread have purchased houses within the last 5 years and are still paying mortgages, two couples have kids under 1 who require daycare. And while you might say why would they pay for day care if they have to stay home, well, don't pay for day care in a city like Austin and watch that spot disappear.
I'm certainly not going to bash what I think is a pretty sound observation that fear of a thing is usually worse than the thing itself.
@DoubleDD Serious question unrelated to our differing political beliefs. Do you think this currently is people keeping calm?
@Crimsonorblue22 One kid got a fist bump...
@Texas-Hawk-10 My spring break is next week. I definitely didn't shake every kids hand as they walked in the door today! Stood there with my hands in my pockets and said "Good Morning!"
@dylans The CDC tested 8 people yesterday so testing EVERY player would be a huge increase in the current testing going on right now.
This is very well written with great charts and graphs. https://medium.com/ â@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca
Heard families will still be allowed in to watch...
I love that we never have to worry about "bubble watch"
I will say within my liberal bubble of media consumption I hear a lot about Biden's fitness in regards to his age and possible cognitive decline. I heard the same about Trump a couple of years ago but have heard less recently. In general, my opinion is you don't hear too much about any one Trump incident/scandal/mishap/lie because there are simply so many. It almost seems like the strategy these last several years is just to bombard the media with so many things that have never happened before/been done before that traditional media and the human brain simply can't keep up. Again, this is all from an admittedly liberal bubble consisting of my twitter feed (where I choose who to follow based on the voices I want to hear), NPR, an occasional visit to cnn.com, this site, Last Week Tonight (though less so recently) and news and articles recommended to me by friends and colleagues (mostly in Austin, TX or Wichita, KS). The last one and twitter are where I am most likely to encounter views that challenge my own as I make a point to associate with people (in person and online) who don't look and think just like me.