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Reflections in the afterglow • Apr 10, 2022 05:10 PM

@BShark Don't know if you know the answer to this, but I'm curious about the adj O and D when they are calculated through the end of season.

I've been curious if those calculations end up biased to favor the team that won last (perhaps rightfully). Is there anything to that? It seems particularly possible in a case like Gonzaga and KU where Gonzaga's last game is a loss, so that probably hurt their stats and KU played 3 more games, all wins, that probably helped their stats. Of course, the stats may also be biased when comparing the stats of Gonzaga's performance against teams in a lesser conference compared to KU, so maybe it all is a wash.

Reflections in the afterglow • Apr 09, 2022 06:53 PM

Amen @drgnslayr

Hey, we squeaked by Creighton. Let's be clear about it. Our shooters were tentative and passive with the very extreme exception of Remy.

Without Remy -- every Remy shot -- it's a second round exit. The margin of error in this tournament is insane.. maybe even more so than usual this year.

Next Year's Team Thread • Apr 09, 2022 06:45 PM

Personally, I've always felt that Dave is a better NBA prospect than Doke. Defensively, they were about equal. However, Dave has more offensive skills and they've been there from the very start. Even as a freshman, it was clear that he was an entirely different 5 than Doke. Dave scored on short jumpers and jump hooks as well as dunks. Doke was pretty much just a dunk dude.

Dave can shoot it from distance, but we had enough shooters so he was never asked to go beyond the paint. Plus he hits FTs. All in all, Dave has potential to be a better pro than Doke IMHO.

I'd love for him to return, of course. But what we saw in this tournament was Dave with a bad foot... then what he could be with two good wheels should be plenty good enough to be a pro. If he gets healthy in time for the NBA tryouts to showcase his abilities, I think he'll be a low first / early second rounder.

Next Year's Team Thread • Apr 08, 2022 06:58 PM

@benshawks08 yes!

Does Baylor's title make Self hungrier? • Apr 08, 2022 06:53 PM

that Chips and Pace post was so perfect. Those two things really did define our run.

Reflections in the afterglow • Apr 08, 2022 06:49 PM

@BShark said in Reflections in the afterglow:

Overheard in North Topeka Dillons/Kroger today

"I'm so done with these KU shirts. I hope they don't win again any time soon".

Must have been a Kstater HA.

LOL! Hope they have to get used to it!

My shirt arrived (in San Jose, CA) from Lawrence yesterday. These make up for that smiley scissors thing.

THANK YOU, JAYHAWKS • Apr 08, 2022 06:59 AM

At halftime, I was pretty concerned. We had guests over -- a friend who is a Duke fan who really hates UNC -- and I didn't want to get too morbid. I held it together and told them that we had comeback from a bigger deficit on the road at K-State earlier in the season. For some reason, that game came to mind. I listened to it on the radio and was just beside myself and almost turned it off.. but I stuck with it and when they came all the way back I thought this might be a special team. That said, on Monday night, as I recalled the K-State comeback, I also quickly realized the stark contrast between KSU and UNC. My spirits were on a rollercoaster, not knowing if I should be optimistic or pessimistic.

Then when they clawed all the way back to within a few points, I couldn't help but wonder if they could sustain it, or if they were spent from just getting to that point.

Once we were in the dogfight to the finish, I got pretty.. ah, vocal.. about the officiating. At one point, I directed some pretty choice words at a pretty high volume, with kids around. Got a few glances, and, yeah.. I took it a bit too far. But the officiating got a bit better after that.

Alas, the rest is history.

The yelling that followed were screams of jubilation.

2021-22 PER's & Stats • Apr 08, 2022 06:36 AM

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Furthermore, #KUBball finished the season with a 16 wins against Quadrant One opponents. Five more than any other team in America. Three more than Baylor last year.

Just a ridiculously tough team.

Would love for KU football to play in a bowl every year and eventually have a shot at the BCS. Every time I try to imagine it though, I can't help but recall how the BCS is dominated by a handful of programs in the SEC and ACC and Ohio St and OU (soon to be SEC too.) I don't know how realistic it is to imagine a team outside of the circle breaking through, especially a team so far outside of the circle.

Stranger things have happened.. but not in the BCS where it's all very homogeneous.

Next Year's Team Thread • Apr 08, 2022 04:35 AM

I think there is a key variable that could drive CB and/or Jalen to return that is easy to overlook/mis-estimate and that's NIL. NIL is new and we haven't seen its effect in the off season yet.

First, let me state that I'm not an expert on NIL.. I just have a perfunctory understanding of how this could work.

With that caveat, I posit that the NC is THE PERFECT opportunity for KU to help guys get sponsors and take advantage of their NIL. Branding/marketing is a follow the leader industry. If we can get these guys some success, it will lead to more success. That means it becomes an engine keeping the marginal NBA guys at KU just a bit longer as they develop to lottery picks and draws in talent that wants success in the sport and their NIL business.

KU should be working to get Remy connected to some brands right now to show transfers what is possible. And they should be working to get some brands interested in Jalen and CB and maybe even Dave. Imagine if all three had deals that let them earn some significant $$ while they played their final season and moved themselves into a lottery position. It could pioneer a new way of operating and allow college basketball to actually be a viable farm league for the NBA.

No unread topics • Apr 08, 2022 03:33 AM

LOL!

Reflections in the afterglow • Apr 08, 2022 03:24 AM

@wissox I think Ochai got MOP partly because confirmation bias (Ochai was the name the voters knew).

Another explanation: I've heard that the voters had to put in their vote prior to the end of the game -- like with 4-5 min left in the game. Even if that's true, I find it hard to make a case for Ochai, but who knows.

It's always possible that a voter might rationalize their vote for Ochai based on the combination of his consistent scoring in double figures while knowing that the defense was trying to shut him down... Or maybe he got votes based on the combination of his defensive and offensive performances. Or maybe it's his charisma.

All of these a possible explanations have holes and are easy to shoot down. Safe to say, it's a head scratcher.

Given the uncertainty, I would defer to the judgement of the team: Ochai said Dave would get his vote for MOP and Self acknowledged Dave's performance by giving him the net.

Dave was the FF MOP. He didn't get the official recognition, but his team and his fans know.

Reflections in the afterglow • Apr 07, 2022 08:40 PM

Thinking back across the season, and the tournament, I'd love to hear your reflections.

Big 12 Officiating

I will start my reflections with penance for my criticism of the Big 12 officials. I declared, right here in this community, that the physical style of game that B12 officiating allowed was going to hurt us in the tournament.

I was wrong.

That crazy crew created a crucible that forged two National Champions (Baylor and Kansas) in two years.

The officiating this year was a mess for everyone. It was not limited to the B12. I have no idea what is a block and a what is a charge... I had friends over for the NC with kids and I lost it with some f-bombs in the second half. Not proud of that.

But, it appears to have made the B12 strong and prepared KU well for the epic run. Even Iowa State, who was really not at the level they've been in the past, was well prepared to play incredible defense which allowed them to make a run.

If It Weren't For Bad Luck, I'd Have No Luck at All

After all the years of bad luck in the tourney, this year was different. Things broke our way. And this is not to take away from the team and their amazing efforts.. but sometimes thing just work out.

Our regional was the best setup I think I've ever seen. The matchups were, for the most part, favorable. Injuries made competitive teams (Creighton and Villanova) weaker and upsets removed a few challengers (Iowa LOL, Wisconsin and Auburn) out of our path. But no Kentucky, no Gonzaga, no Duke, no Purdue, no Illinois, no UCLA and no UNC.

Plus, we benefited from the Coach K drama combined with the typical march madness upset drama that overshadowed KU and allow us to stay "under the radar" all the way to the NC game. For a team that always has a target on its back, that target was a bit smaller and a bit more faded than normal.

Remy and the Immaculate Vibe

Let me start by saying the Championship was a Team Effort with a capitol T.

That said, WTF. The dude doesn't really play for the conference regular season. When he's in, it looks like he is out of sync with everyone else. Even as recently as the B12 tournament, there seemed to be confusion when he was on the floor. I recall more than once him looking for direction to the bench or Och pointing to where he's supposed to be.

We are left to wonder: Does he know the system? Is there friction with the other players? Can he, WILL he, ever play defense? What about that injury?

And then, suddenly, he began to fit with our offense or vice versa. Suddenly, our team had two gears. Two very different, distinct styles to the offense. This gave KU a unique advantage: teams trying to scout would look at most of the season and see a monster car. But then they would see the most recent games and see that we could mutate into a race car.

On a dime Remy could flip the switch. I'll be darned if that isn't a reflection of how this team flipped the switch in the second half against Miami and again against UNC.

We don't get past Creighton or Providence without Remy. And we don't beat UNC without Remy. He took the shots -- and MADE the shots -- that others were either unable to because the defense was keying on them or they deferred (afraid). Remy personified confidence and courage.

I have always hated hearing Rafferty say "ONIONS" when someone makes a clutch shot, but Remy delivered the quintessential example of that phrase. He forced tough, contested shots at absolutely crucial moments... and nailed them.

This is not to take away from Ochai who is THE MAN and did this multiple times in multiple games throughout the season.

But, consider this as context on Monday's performance: Remy shot 4/6 from 3; Mario shot 3/7 from 3 in the 08 NC. The drama of Mario's one shot is undeniable, but the stats should help us appreciate Remy's performance in this NC. Self — who so values blood, sweat and tears — seemed flummoxed and hesitant to shower adoration on Remy because he defied the formula; Remy still, absolutely crushed it even though he was coming off more than a month of lost practice and playing time.

Come to think of it, back to the luck theme.. let's put Remy choosing to come to KU last summer in that category. This is the conclusion we all dreamed was possible when he said he was transferring here. But I don't think anyone could have imagined Remy's journey.

Team, Toughness and Treasures

I heard one talking head on Tuesday credit the 2nd half comeback to "the law firm of McCormack, Martin and Braun." That sounds about right. Big Dave (Good Dave) finally gets the spotlight he deserves. Jalen Wilson was a rock throughout the tournament. Dave and Jalen are a perfect reflection of this team: under the radar all year. Part of that was their own doing. But midway through the B12 season, there was no reason for anyone to sleep on Jalen or Dave. They both did all the dirty work.

And speaking of dirty work, Dejuan: how I underestimated thee. (I'm so glad we don't need to talk about the final 4 seconds). The team credited his defense as the spark for the 2nd half run. And why not? Runs can't happen without stops, and his steals and energy triggered the comeback.

Finally, what a treasure to have kids that grew up wanting to be Jayhawks. Christian Braun, hailing from a small town in Kansas is the classic Jayhawk. Toughness incarnate. Mitch and Ochai fall in this category.

Again, how lucky are we that we had so much experience and so much love on this team? And how lucky are we to have this forum (thx @approxinfinity) and this community to share our love of the team and the program throughout the year.

Rock Chalk.


Ok, TLDR:

I apologize to the B12 officials. Remy delivered in the most heroic way. Jalen and Big Dave (Good Dave), flying under the radar, overshadowed, delivered again and again. I underestimated Dejuan. And FINALLY... KU had the stars align just a bit. Nice way to celebrate the 100th anniversary of our first championship.

PS:

Why couldn't the national announcers get the names of our players right (Braun, pronounced: Brown, Ochai Agbaji, pronounced Oh-chi Ah-bah-gee.) They had 3 weeks and 67 games.

That first half is fine until about 6:08 left. I think we're tied 22-22 at that point. They score the next 16. In less than 4 min.

That is hard to watch.

WE ARE NATIONAL CHAMPIONS • Apr 07, 2022 06:56 PM

https://kansas.n.rivals.com/news/for-kansas-the-dream-of-winning-a-national-championship-became-a-reality ↗

Are we happy? UNC? • Apr 04, 2022 02:45 AM

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Let the slobberfest begin • Apr 04, 2022 12:19 AM

@joeloveshawks1 said in Let the slobberfest begin:

@mayjay I think Bill might retire in a slightly less self congratulatory manner than Coach K. I suspect a quiet “What a great season this was. I’m retiring.” Sort of the way Roy Williams retired. With class and very little fan fare. Coach Ks insufferable ego forced this one year circus where the entire basketball world had to kiss his ass repeatedly. Thank god he will never coach again!

Coach K’s approach invited the circus and ESPN was more than happy to oblige. The sports media enabled this slobberfest. I’ve been disappointed with CBS in the past week and especially the last 24 hours getting so sucked in. And when they weren’t tied in knots about the Duke-UNC game, they were gushing about Villanova — even after the loss. It was embarrassing how Big East-centric their perspective was.

KU Twitter/Memes • Apr 03, 2022 11:18 PM

Duke fans now joining the KU wagon. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Armistice day for KU and Duke

The Also Ran Game • Apr 03, 2022 01:15 AM

Rooting for whoever is behind.

Drinking at every lead change and tie.

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 03, 2022 12:27 AM

Big Dave was Good Dave!

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 03, 2022 12:20 AM

@jessejayhawk ❤️🥂🎉

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 03, 2022 12:18 AM

MOP of the final four might get a jersey in AFH

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 03, 2022 12:16 AM

LOL! Yes!

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 03, 2022 12:15 AM

@benshawks08 said in Jay Wrong Game Thread:

@bskeet never filled out a bracket with Kansas not winning it all.

You and me, brother!

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 03, 2022 12:14 AM

@Bosthawk said in Jay Wrong Game Thread:

Talk about peaking at the right time…
That’s really the most important thing… just ask Gonzaga. On paper they had all the pieces to win this year.

Homestly back in November, how many of us really thought that we would be playing for the championship ?

I’m an idiot but I think we have a shot every year.

88 changed the way I think forever.

Matt Scott Appears To Be Done At 247 • Apr 03, 2022 12:12 AM

@sam2222 said in Matt Scott Appears To Be Done At 247:

Matt Scott and Scott chases are two of the most disrespectful people you will ever encounter. The rudest people I've ever met. They promote hate and disrespect no matter what they do. I hope they never find another job again

I can’t help but wonder what prompted this comment in the middle of KUs final four game? Curious timing.

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 03, 2022 12:09 AM

If UNC can’t do it, we can.

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 03, 2022 12:08 AM

@benshawks08 said in Jay Wrong Game Thread:

@bskeet they’re still hungry.

Oh yeah! So am I! So am I!

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 03, 2022 12:07 AM

Is it fair — is it selfish — to ask this team for a little more Monday?

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 03, 2022 12:05 AM

Pure elation!

This feels so good! I’m going to watch this next game with such a relaxed feeling!

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 02, 2022 11:37 PM

IT TASTES SO GOOD!!

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 02, 2022 11:32 PM

Not over yet. But another score and a stop would seal it

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 02, 2022 11:28 PM

Och with a great block

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 02, 2022 11:28 PM

Close this game out. Probably about to be a FT shooting contest

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 02, 2022 11:27 PM

This is what we can be!! Shooters everywhere on the floor!

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 02, 2022 11:26 PM

Awesome transition!!

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 02, 2022 11:25 PM

Boom!

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 02, 2022 11:24 PM

Dig in guys. Gut check time!

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 02, 2022 11:22 PM

Wow. What are we doing on offense?

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 02, 2022 11:18 PM

Och needs to get his shot but not force it.

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 02, 2022 11:17 PM

I didn’t think it was off Dave

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 02, 2022 11:16 PM

Just have to make the FTs because we know Villanova will make 90%

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 02, 2022 11:15 PM

Now we will see the fouls.

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 02, 2022 11:11 PM

No guy absorbs as much punishment as Dave without credit.

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 02, 2022 11:10 PM

@stoptheflop said in Jay Wrong Game Thread:

What is it going to take for Dave to get a foul call. Broken bones?

This is consistent all year long

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 02, 2022 11:09 PM

Holy crap! Officials clearly don’t want Villanova’s lack of depth to be an issue.

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 02, 2022 11:07 PM

BANG

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 02, 2022 11:06 PM

Geese. Unscripted

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 02, 2022 11:05 PM

Whew!

Jay Wrong Game Thread • Apr 02, 2022 11:02 PM

Respond.