Iām sorry be the refs just turned this game wow.
@BeddieKU23 that was a weak T on Marshall the team lol right there.
@BeddieKU23 I think theyāll be fine once someone tells them at half time that no one on Marshallās team can stop Shaq. Marshall should be up more WSU is shooting 32% right now.
WSU just chucking 3s from the cheap seats, down by 6 late in the first half.
@wissox I filled out 4 brackets this year, have Arizona in 2 of my FFs, lol the last time I lost a FF opening round was MSU in 2016.
@BShark Yep I agree, if you look at our early losses, most of them happened when a big guy was hurt or couldnāt play. I think we definitely have a chance to win, Iām just concerned for Dokes status and what I mentioned previously.
@DanR @ZIG I not sure whatās with this new my opinion is right and yours is wrong stuff that I see so much around this site and in this country. Some people myself included call it as they see it. Did you think we played good today? I will be watching the game Saturday, hell I may go and Iāll be cheering like crazy. But Iām still not gonna sugar coat it, we canāt play the way we did today and win. Bill Self has struggled the most in this game and EE games since heās been here, thatās a fact. As stated the tournament is hard, itās really hard if you donāt have a starter on the floor or know how much he can play. 9 losses in those rounds compared to 4 in all other rounds. I donāt think anyone is insinuating that we have no chance of winning, some are just predicting a loss and I donāt blame them with how we played not only today but several other games this season where it looked like the whole team had a date with Kate Upton 30 minutes after after the game.
I would be shocked to see any coaching changes in the B12 at this point. @justanotherfan I think Prohm is pretty save at this point, one bad year after who they lost. I think the seat is getting hot on our buddy Lon down in Norman. He returned everyone from a year ago for the most part and added a top recruit. They really stunk up the place the last 2 months of the season, everyone knows they only got in for viewership and ratings, any other team in that situation not being a blue blood (big fan bases) most likely is in the NIT.
@BShark @Crimsonorblue22 I would be shocked if he stayed, he said projected in the top 8 picks in every mock draft Iāve seen. I personally wouldnāt draft him, heās a Steph Curry but doesnāt shoot it near as well or have the handles that Curry does. The NBA drafts off of potential but never gives anyone time to develop.
Unfortunately I donāt think we will win this one, Iād be glad to be wrong tho. I honestly thought we were super lucky today, Penn shot 5-14 from the line and 6-16 on layups according to ESPN. I still think we wouldāve most likely won but they hurt themselves for a team that struggles to score. We need Doke to be ready to play a good chunk of minutes. The good thing is Doke only averages 24 minutes a game so if continues to progress he maybe able to come close to that come Saturday. We will need Mitch to repeat his preformance from today or Silvio even if Doke can play. One things forsure regardless wether it was nerves or whatever else, we flatout can not play the way we did for the first 13 minutes, especially offensively. 11 flipping points, we were lucky to not be down 15 or more to that point. The good news is DG playing pretty well and will hopefully rally the troops. Does anyone know when they will release the game time?
@BShark MJ is announcing games now, the ceiling is the roof!!! Lmao
@JayHawkFanToo Does the better seed always win? No further questions your honor.
@JayHawkFanToo Ranking mean absolutely nothing in the tournament, donāt care which ones you look at.
Just watched the hawks arrive in Wichita, Self had a brief interview. Doesnāt sound like Doke wonāt play Thursday but maybe suited up just in case. Self he wouldnāt have practice by Thursday so he not in favor of playing him. Sounds like he said heād like to get some pt Saturday for sure but seemed hesitant on how much. Iād expect him out Thursday forsure now and probably not start Saturday, will probably depend on how things go on how much he plays then.
What in tarnation! How could you live in this country and not know KUs mascot, especially if you cover or write on CBB.
I would be shocked if he played thursday but more so if he didnt play against NC State or Seton Hall.
@justanotherfan I donāt think itās a small town HS thing ether, we used to get pretty rough with each other out here in the sticks with elbows and some pushing, maybe a kidney shot but thatās as extreme as Iāve seen. When I was coaching we used to press late in games if we was up by a possession or two. We wouldnāt guard the in bounder, would switch everything and have one back deep to protect from the home run. We always told him no one gets a easy bucket, even if you have to foul but I also reminded him not to tackle someone. Just contest the shot as best as you can and if you foul it better be a foul that he canāt get an and one. The kids I coached were younger than high school all but 1 year, by that time most people know you canāt hit someone in mid air because thatās when someone is most vulnerable, it doesnāt take much contact to accidentally foul someone hard. To put both hands on him and not know that would happen, the kid wouldāve been in highschool for 10 years.
@wrwlumpy I guess I think itās stupid to worry about whatās going on in the cities, most the time the players spend most of their day in the hotel room. I guess big lights are fun to look a lol, Iād say if a guy is so worried about that he has his focus in the wrong area forsure.
@wissox good info, I almost wonder if last year didnāt put more pressure on us being pretty much a home game. Oregon wasnāt supposed to be that far anyway and was playing with house money.
Many win enter, one will win!!
@BShark like I said earlier IMO, MSU and Dook are the most talented teams in the bracket. Doesnāt necessarily mean they are the best but itās does looked like we got jobbed from the stand point that MSU, Dook are ranked in the top 5 in the latest AP and Coaches Poll. I personally feel like we get the toughest bracket about 80% of the time but there isnāt a easy road bye any stretch and if youāre the best you got beat the best.
@wissox @Kcmatt7 Nebraska got robbed IMO, whenās the last time a power 5 team had 13 conference wins and didnāt get in? While teams like Syracuse, Oklahoma, Texas and Arizona State all had finished 2 games below .500, Arizona State while playing in the weakest power 5 conference. I donāt like the idea of rewarding teams for wins in November and December because most teams get better as the year goes on, these teams got worse. Does anyone think we would lose to Washington or Arizona State if we played ether right now, I sure as heck donāt.
@BShark Is Penn seeded wrong? Yes, should we be scared of them? Hell No, we have been here before with under seeded 16 in 2013 when beat Western Kentucky by just 7 points. We also barely squeaked by a under seeded 15 in Utah State by 3 in 2003. Even without Doke it should be a double digit win IMO.
Ya I donāt really think Vick is a head case at this point, he is a really quiet guy and does seem to show a whole lotta emotion. I follow him on snap chat and I think he is home sick sometimes and misses his daughter. Iād never fault the young man for that, I think he could be a lottery pick with a good year next or even be a first rounder this year if he is a key part of a deep run.
@Kcmatt7 they did lose to Toledo, a team we beat by 40 points. Not that carries a ton weight as early as those games were.
@Gunman itās hard to narrow it down to toughest or saddest. They all hurt a little I think, that 97 team was amazing, all the Final four loses hurt especially the title games because itās so hard to get there and you never know when weāll get back. The 05 and 10 upsets hurt because we had guys that had N.C. experience on both teams and talent to beat anyone. 11 and 13 hurt because we had such favorable roads if we were to pull of those wins. The last two years hurt because the guys like Perry, Mari, Frank and LL worked so hard for years and come so close to getting a big banner.
If I was to move to a bigger city it would probably be LFK. My wife actually applied for a job in the area several years ago but didnāt get it. I donāt think weād move anytime soon, we have a kid now which makes it harder to move. Lawrence definitely has some shady part too but over all the crime is considerably less there compared to KC, Topeka and Wichita for it being one of the bigger cities in the state. Plus if we moved up there Iād go broke going to KU games and my wife would kill me lol. @BShark I live in a town of 600 people, Wichita is an hour away and Salina is 30 minutes away so it not to far to do anything and living in a smaller town is way cheaper than the city. Weād loved to live out in the country but itās too expensive.
@jayballer73 Everytime I go down 21st in Wichita right off the interstate toward Koch Arena, that little gas station is loaded with cops for one reason or another. Iām a small town guy, I love peace and quiet. No bass bumping all hours of the night and itās a safe place for kids.
@KUSTEVE We all would expect that from you haha.
@truehawk93 The neighborhoods I could afford to live in Wichita, Iād get my TV stolen every night lol. WSU is in such a crappy part of town, I had some friends that went there it was prefectly normal for their cars to get broke into. Old Town used to be decent when I was younger, now someone gets shot or stabbed almost weekly there.
@Crimsonorblue22 Never been to a tournament game Iāll be happy if I can go at all.
@BShark Ya, you could say that lol. Itās just to close no to go, intrust is an hour from my driveway. The trouble is right now tickets are $250 and Iām too poor for that.
@Crimsonorblue22 No lol
Crappy game time lol, I think @cragarhawk and I may try to go Saturday, if we win of course.
NC State is also a team that we canāt sleep on, they beat Dook and UNC this season so they wonāt be intimidated by any stretch. If we can get passed that second round match up I like our chances of getting to our 3rd straight E8. Bill Self and this staff seldom lose in first games of the weekend, 9 second game losses compared to 4 first game losses.
I said on the other thread that you could make a strong case for Penn as a 14 seed. Maybe it will help keep us focused, one thing forsure we donāt wanna be the first 1 seed to lose to a 16.
@BeddieKU23 anyone can be beaten lol
@BeddieKU23 Michigan State is much much better this year obviously they have a 3 seed not a 9. That and we are no where near as athletic as a year ago. It really itās gonna depend on how we shoot, one game at a time.
Iām a little worried about a Duke or MSU match in the EE, those two teams may have the most talent in the field. But weād have to get there first.
I think we got the best 16 seed bye leaps and bounds, none of the roads are easy letās go.
So the B12 get 7 teams in: Kansas, West Virginia, Texas Tech, Kansas State, Texas, TCU and Oklahoma. Iād wouldāve took Baylor or Okie State over Oklahoma with how they finished. Interesting that Syracuse got in.
@BShark Tyshawn shouldāve been an All-American with how he played the second half of his senior year. I love the Self quote on Ty āHeāll make plays that canāt be coached, then heāll make plays that make you wonder if heās ever been coachedā. Ty was a fun guy to talk to when I briefly got the chance and was very important to that FF run in 12. I hate all the negativity Iāve seen from our fan base this year, it has really rubbed me wrong. Iām kinda worried if we donāt stop with it, we could end up like the UK scum.
@BShark this year the bubble is crazy, the committee will leave out some guys that thought they were in. It will be interesting to see if the B12 gets 6,7 or 8 teams in. Iād say most likely 7.
If we have a good run heās gone, look at the 08 title team and some of the numbers those guys had that got draft werenāt crazy numbers. They just good when it counted and the NBA seems to like that.
@JayHawkFanToo If itās orgins UCLA is easily out, they pretty much stank before Wooden, than have stank every year but about 6 since the mid 70s.
See that Texas Southern got in today, Self is always smart in scheduling a few teams that are likely to make the dance as a 16 or 15.
@BShark looks like SFA is gonna pull it off, so many good games this time of year. The little leagues sometimes give the wildest finishes, making the tournament is such a big deal and thats part of the reason you see upsets. All the pressure is off them and they are playing with house money from there on.
@BShark yes very close lol when my wife was at KU they always called Lecompton āThe French Ghettoā, not for any particular reason just as an inside joke.
Kelly Unruh for 1 year and Chuck Kern for 3 years.
@Crimsonorblue22 @BShark what high school did yāall attend, I went to Canton-Galva.