@Jethro Any limits on getting players from the portal would have to allow for more if a team has an unusual number of departures, I would think.
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@Kubie said in Annual KU Buckets awards:
It’s the Mitch Lightfoot Crimson and Blue Blood award
Has to be awarded by our own resident @Crimsonorblue22 or it aint legit!
@Kcmatt7 To be clear, the record set was not for a men's champ game in general. Only a record for one carried on cable, which has a much smaller sample! Nowhere near the audiences in the broadcast era. Still good.
@Crimsonorblue22 Might be the best farewell I have seen. I like the challenge to the next group of Jayhawks to take it to the next level!
@Texas-Hawk-10 And it is nice to know we have never gone to the IARP because of either secret weapon.
Until he shows more aggressiveness and an ability to take and hit quick shots, I just cannot see the first round. If he does that in the combine, sure, but I would pass. NBA teams need every player to be a threat.
As I remember JCL has 2 masters degrees in finance and computer something or other. I think he has developed a software program for teaching college kids about handling their money, and is using it with athletes. I think it was a KC Star article, but my subscription has lapsed so cannot check the details.
Interesting datum: Mitch has been at KU for 31.5% of the time Self has coached here.
You don't need to get into the lottery. Just the 1st round to get guaranteed money, right?
@Crimsonorblue22 Maybe call it the Lightfoot Longevity Award, and include a Social Security card.
In other news, it can now be revealed that Squeaky boycotted all of the Final 4s since he was hired at KSU in protest of other coaches not being suspended...for being so much better.
@dylans Probably still in an FBI file. Or maybe the NCAA files from looking for dirt in the fanbase.
@Kcmatt7 Congratulations! You are racking up debts, you know... First, we get a cigar when the baby is born. They come in handy on the golf course to keep mosquitoes and gnats away.
Which takes us smoothly to our second topic. The long-standing (just made up) tradition is for the ace-golfer to buy drinks for everyone in any championship basketball team forum in which he participates. We can just send you the bills.
@rockchalkjayhawk said in What's our fate?:
Here’s a nice, simply stated story on what KU faces.
https://www.npr.org/2022/04/06/1091334394/university-kansas-ncaa-violations ↗
That story is misleading. It summarizes the FBI case by lumping KU into the allegations where school employees were directly involved in the Adidas payments. The FBI investigation concluded that KU did not know of them and, in fact, was the victim of the scheme.
The article also fails to address the unique theory that attempts to make KU liable for the Adidas scheme, i.e., that Adidas was a booster solely because we relied on Adidas help in recruiting, and we had a duty to detect and report Adidas misconduct.
The booster thing is important because it creates a special type of agency. In the law, you are responsible for things your agent does in the course of agency. But agency also requires a showing of control over the agent. Someone who does something for another, even by request or contract, is not automatically an agent if they are independent. (The fact that Adidas did not recruit exclusively for KU does not defeat agency, but it is a significant factor against it.)
The NCAA is trying to label Adidas as our booster, and from there to bootstrap all the attributes of agency into the relationship, including the duties to supervise all their conduct, put protections in place to prevent misconduct, and detect and cure any violations found. How in the world could KU supervise a multinational corporation?
An analogy would be any other procuring relationship. Take Boeing, for example. Let's say in the 80's Boeing needed more chrome, which was harder to get from South Africa when sanctions for impartheid were being enacted. They go out and hire some guys from the mob who have a reputation for being able to find things via underground connections, and they tell them to get South African chrome "no questions asked," i.e., on the black market. The mob sneaks chrome in in obvious S African crates, bypassing customs. Yes, Boeing has contracted with authorization for illegal transactions and could be held liable. But if Boeing hires another company that specializes in identifying and finding legal sources of materials, with a long history of working with lots of companies and having ongoing relationships with suppliers, and contracts to puchase chrome, then Boeing has not created an agency relationship rendering them liable for any illegally procured chrome received in legal-appearing crates. They are merely a customer, not charged with knowledge of where it came from since legal sources existed.
And yes, they would be the victim if their new supplier defrauded them by procuring chrome that might be seized if it was illegally imported.
KU's "admission" that Adidas was a booster was for the purposecof the Silvio case only. There are ways that lawyers can do "limited purpose" admissions that absolutely prohibit collateral use, but I have no idea if KU did theirs properly.
One other thing that needs to be addressed: if the IARP exceeds its authority or violates its own procedures, the unappealability of its decision goes out the window. Private organizations are required to follow their own rules, and any findings/sanctions, have to be grounded in the referral charter/warrant/whatever. Waiving the right of appeal would not, for example, authorize the IARP to prohibit KU from participation in all sports, or require closing the Student Union.
If the booster theory works, I want the NCAA to charge Oregon and other Nike schools with aiding and abetting violations of child labor laws in getting their shoes.
No opinion on anything not specifically discussed above!
@Jethro I just meant the amount of hyper-analyzed disgust for their own coach. Too familiar.
@BShark Wow, a whole thread full of HEM and KUballing clones!
Would Yes be able to transfer without sitting out a year? I thought you can only do it once?
Thank you! Yet another bout of that damned dust in my eyes....
@wissox Understood! Roberts might have given him a choice, too. Kershaw had a no-hitter in 2014, so that might have played a role.
@wissox Kershaw had only thrown 101 pitches in spring training, and has not pitched a complete season since 2015. First start of the season. And he was ok with the decision because of the lockout stopping off-season workouts. Big picture a bit more important.
The KC mistake is very common for people who don't live there. Not a big deal nationally--just feeds KU paranoia.
My wife is a pure adopted Jayhawk (probably more passionate than I am) and makes this mistake all the time. Calls the Chiefs "Kansas" and KU Kansas City.
As a judge I learned a lot about how people remember things. One thing was about how we "file" certain words in our memories. "Kansas" and "Kansas City" end up interchangeable in the minds of people not from there. Not a big deal. Really!
@BShark Outside shot is great, but we need some big bodies down low. He got pushed out of position a lot this year. Needs to put about 30 lbs of muscle on, especially in his leg strength.
@BShark I know where this is going...Can I join? Please? Man, you cool guys always form a secret clique... Will you have decoder rings???
@jayballer67 Most viewed cable title game in history.
Funny that there is no 6 game MVP. I was surprised when I first learned that.
Maybe with a 200 to 300 million dollar donation to the NCAA you can get them to start one, and it can be called The Remy Award!
Yikes! Found a bullet embedded in our roof once, but never experienced live shooting. Scary. Glad you are ok.
@Crimsonorblue22 Well, as we have laughingly pointed out this week, these kids are not the KC Jayhawks, so they certainly are not required to show loyalty to the Royals!
Article in the KCStar today covering all the details of the MOP voting. Voters were told voting would be closed 2 mins before game ended. 25 voters, Och got 5 more than Dave. Didn’t break down anyone else.
Voting was definitely before Dave's last 2 shots. I suspect there was a big split between Och and Bacot. Och got KU started right in both F4 games, and played good defense with some crucial plays in the NC game.
I would have been ok with any of the 3 of them winning with the current premature voting system. But the vote should be after it is over---then, Dave.
@FarmerJayhawk To have a consistent metaphor, the cat would now be out of the hat, but that would upset Dr. Seuss fans.
I think anyone who went to bed, or quit watching, at halftime, and then either tuned in after we caught up, or who has watched the second half after knowing we won, has CHEATED!
You people didn't have to suffer through all the highlights of the 1st half, the shaking heads, or all the effing commercials!!!
You haven't earned that comeback until you watch halftime, and suffer, suffer, SUFFER!!!!
@Gorilla72 How about the Bill Self Banner Array?
@BeddieKU23 Fortunately, I am not that fond of spaghetti.
@wissox Hmmm...I've enjoyed 2 Chiefs SB wins, 2 Royals WS wins, and 3 KU NCs. Michigan winning in 1989 meant nothing to me---never attended a game in my 3 years there and didn't really identify as a Wolverine.
Random thoughts now that the adrenaline has finally dissipated:
---KU's rate of winning is getting faster, incidentally. 36 years after the first, 20 after the 2nd, and "only" 14 after the 3rd before this year's. I'm 66 now, so I would like it to speed up some more!
---Has anyone celebrated the fact that we won this year, which is the 70th anniversary of our 1st NC win? Did KU have a tribute at a game?
---Finally, I am looking forward to Maui in 2023 because we might be visiting the gkids for Thanksgiving anyway. Might try to get to Bahamas this year. Will be interested to learn if anyone else is thinking about these.
@Crimsonorblue22 Well, that emoji you used did look like what I would describe as an angry scowl! But I agree with you--never give up!
@dylans It went out at 4.6 seconds. Here is a screenshot after Manek's turnover during the loooonnnnngggggg period before Harris got the ball OB. They explained in the broadcast that a minimum of .3 secs must occur on any inbounds play with possession, so thus the .3 sec change.
Incidentally, there is a 17 minute video replay of the final 3 mins at the NCAA website:
Let's guess! 18?
Thought about it at halftime. Mostly b/c the blowout by SC in the women's tourney the night before made me see too many doomsday possibilities about ever coming back--if UConn and Auriema can get blown out....yikes.
Glad I stayed up!!!
Sports Illustrated included questions about the possible sanctions in two of its articles.
Considering how many comments are made about KU being cheaters all over social media and in comments to every article in The Athletic, I think these are legitimate questions.
It might feel jarring to see them brought up now, but I have the same questions to be honest.
Since it has been reported that we still have a hearing this spring in front of the IARP (Infinitely Agonizing Reproval Procedure), I find it difficult to believe sanctions have already been chosen, or that CBS or anyone else has a freaking clue about it. If the report of a hearing is not true, all bets are off, of course.
The vote for MOP was before the last couple minutes. In another article, it says that Self gave Dave the net, telling him "Och got the hardware but you get the net. You deserve it."
Okay, maybe all you bias-detectors are onto something....
I just received a daily email from The Atlantic, received just a bit before 11 this morning. You can see from the screenshot that the lead headline is still pushing UNC's chances to win an NChamp as an 8 seed.
You can also see that the headline writer/page editor should have perhaps read the article further down on the page about the KU win.
Mea culpa...we DON'T get no respect!
@justanotherfan Interesting thought...and goes full circle back to him being the highest ranked recruit on this year's team (if I recall correctly)!
And, geez Louise, the memo must have gotten eaten by somebody's dog... Straight from ESPN, the home hive of the KU-hating fraternity, their lead prediction article has Medcalf, Borzolo, Cagaway (sp?), and Lunardi all picking KU, too.
Well, when one bad call is made, we can still raise the usual chorus about biased reffing!
The CBSSports.com chapter of the biased sports media (Gary Parrish, Norlander, etc) apparently didn’t get the memo. Their predictions are unanimously in favor of KU.
@stoptheflop The rebounding of Wilson and Rodman both are fun to watch. A huge difference in the two is that I would not be afraid to start a conversation with Jalen....
@jayballer67 Here's a fun ESPN story about someone who really believes in KU:
(Note: it is about 3.3 mil, not 33. The link cannot have a period in it)
@jayballer67 And it would have deserved it. It was a huge game, and amazingly close. Brilliant comeback for UNC after going down by 7 at 41-34. You don't like the ACC and Duke, but they have deserved monster attention since the mid-80's.
Think of it this way: When Bill Self retires with 5 NCs, you would be very pissed if the undercard battle in the F4 got more attention than his last game were we to lose in our semi. Note: when, not if, he has 5....
How many cc's did they use to get Bacot back on the court and able to run and jump so fast?
@BShark On second thought, maybe it is HEM-Jr. God helps us.
@BShark said in Jay Wrong Game Thread:
Also, that account is 99.9% to be HEM. I’m done engaging with racists.
I wondered about that but I think HEM popped so many gaskets in his farewell screeds about me that I cannot imagine he hasn't totally flipped out in response to my mentioning blocking him. Some sarcasm from this guy, and a similar sense of "who, me?" but none of the profane comments.
More of a "You are all so wrong" comment that, yes, gets so tiring I don't want to read it, than the "You are all leftist assholes" we came to expect from our own Voldemort.
Draftkings has KU as a 4.5 pt favorite over UNC.