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A Fifth Year for Doke? β€’ Mar 16, 2020 02:50 PM

@dylans That is a very strange thing to say: "gets it wrong"? No, not at all. The tournament crowns the NCAA
champion. That is its only purpose. People who think that it is supposed to reveal anything except the winner should just never watch it and not let UA, UNI, and VCU ruin their impression. Get rid of the tournament, and go back to polls.

I agree that the tourney has crazy results, except for 2008, when it was only crazy in the F4 because we were the 4th #1 but won.

But the results are valid, not wrong. "Who can win 6 (or 7!) pressure win-or-go-home games in a row?" is just as valid a test for greatness as season long results.

A Fifth Year for Doke? β€’ Mar 16, 2020 02:13 PM

I don't like watered down championships. Neither of our recent champions would have won a "declared champion" tournament. Let's just gracefully accept that it took a global crisis to stop college basketball, and while we can trumpet our rankings superiority, let's not invite conversations about how KU has done in the past as the overall #1 seed!

I don't want any pretending crap decorating our rafters. Is the need to scream "We're #1!" that strong?

A Fifth Year for Doke? β€’ Mar 16, 2020 03:33 AM

@Crimsonorblue22 According to my damned google instant answer, either is a damn fine usage!

A Fifth Year for Doke? β€’ Mar 16, 2020 02:46 AM

Plus the best damned mascot in the business!

Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19 β€’ Mar 16, 2020 12:25 AM

Looks like someone hacked the best statistics site:

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Mourning our loss β€’ Mar 15, 2020 07:03 PM

@approxinfinity said in Mourning our loss:

Now if we could get the messaging right about social distancing before everyone infects everyone else

So, to be clear, we are all coming together for a common purpose and agreeing to stay apart!

Mourning our loss β€’ Mar 15, 2020 05:04 PM

@dylans I cannot possibly be arrogant. I was raised better than that.

A Fifth Year for Doke? β€’ Mar 15, 2020 02:26 PM

I think the players on this team will be remembered with their own legacy. With everyone talking about "The Forgotten Team," the ironic result of having a unique season will be that they are mentioned forever.

Dok Dok Dok Dok Dok β€’ Mar 15, 2020 12:47 PM

I hope that someday he will be able to walk down the hill and receive the degree he has earned. I doubt Sping grad ceremonies will be held this year. 3 time All Big 12 Academic team. We don't pay as much attention to that as we should, but to me it is the highest recognition of the effort some students put in.

NCAA Tournament: Should it happen? β€’ Mar 15, 2020 12:36 PM

@KirkIsMyHinrich Cannot miss a tournament that was not held. Our streak will just be measured in consecutive tournaments not years.

Everybody's Talkin 'Bout.......... β€’ Mar 15, 2020 04:02 AM

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Mourning our loss β€’ Mar 14, 2020 11:41 PM

So, @jayballer73, since you follow other school's boards... Is the Silo Tech fanbase celebrating the coronavirus because it managed to do something KSt couldn't do...beat KU?

Mourning our loss β€’ Mar 14, 2020 03:35 AM

@wissox Very nice. My wife says that now there is a time to paint, too. Sigh....

Everybody's Talkin 'Bout.......... β€’ Mar 14, 2020 03:13 AM

Here is something fun. Many versions of this out there but this one is, I think, a good one.

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2020 Bubble Watch β€’ Mar 13, 2020 10:04 PM

Face it, no one would want to win a truncated tourney marred by choosing just a few teams, or a tournament that excluded players because they are moving on with their lives.

For crying out loud, it hurts but we really need to get over it. Much more is at stake in this than the desire to win a trophy.

Everybody's Talkin 'Bout.......... β€’ Mar 13, 2020 05:47 PM

Fishing stories! I caught one THIS big one time!!

Would you believe This big? How about THIS small!

NCAA Tournament: Should it happen? β€’ Mar 13, 2020 05:39 PM

@dylans There were no other options. Every sports organization realized this after the NBA guy tested positive. If there had been a reliable projection of how long the virus would continue to increase spreading, options could have been discussed. But with China taking 3 months to control the spread, the most reasonable projections are several months away. That is way beyond the ability of the NCAA to schedule anything, and then meanwhile schools would have to continue to house teams somehow while graduating athletes would normally be moving on to careers. All with the possibility of it crashing down when even one teams gets quarantined.

It happened. Life goes on--fortunately.

KU & SC being champs works for me!

NCAA Tournament: Should it happen? β€’ Mar 12, 2020 08:31 PM

So, is anyone thinking KU should have just caved and accepted a postseason ban this year?

NCAA Tournament: Should it happen? β€’ Mar 12, 2020 04:15 PM

Big 12 cancelled.

NCAA Tournament: Should it happen? β€’ Mar 12, 2020 04:13 PM

Rick Barnes says the UT players were very worried about playing. ESPN reported their Asst AD for communications is very relieved: had a liver transplant in 2018 and is still on immuno-suppressing meds, and is one of those ancillary people who would be affected by any decision to play.

Jazz players report Gobert was touching everyone in the locker room, and the news conf showed him picking up all the reporters' mics (not sure when). What an ass.

NCAA Tournament: Should it happen? β€’ Mar 12, 2020 03:16 PM

A second Jazz player just announced to be positive.

NCAA Tournament: Should it happen? β€’ Mar 12, 2020 03:00 PM

@dylans Do you deal in your job with agricultural diseases, or just crops? What happens in a situation where one cow dies of anthrax?

Is Silvio finito? β€’ Mar 12, 2020 01:50 PM

@dylans I understand what you are saying, but think of the burden of proof as a teeter-totter. The text does not weigh on either side of the balance point. When evidence is submitted to prove wrongdoing, the fact-finder is not supposed to assume it proves guilt when it is just as consistent with innocence. We say "not inconsistent with innocence" not to muddle it but to emphasize what is really at stake with the notion of burden of proof: here, the NCAA has the burden to prove the wrongdoing, which the text does not do.

It is usually used more in criminal cases where the burden on the prosecution is to overcome the presumption of innocence.

Is Silvio finito? β€’ Mar 12, 2020 11:52 AM

@BeddieKU23 As I have previously stated on that text: classic example of a statement which could support an inference of knowledge, but standing alone does not establish knowledge, of a particular illicit act.

Another way to say it is that the statement is not inconsistent with innocence.

NCAA Tournament: Should it happen? β€’ Mar 12, 2020 11:42 AM

@bskeet Maybe if it is cancelled the NBA combine will be, too, and Doke will get a redshirt, and Dot will come back, and I will win the lottery, and .....

NCAA Tournament: Should it happen? β€’ Mar 12, 2020 11:39 AM

@Crimsonorblue22 Glad to hear only the flu but his health history makes it more serious.

The film of him on the bench looked just like a guy who was coming to do a home inspection on my house. He waited a few mins to get out and said he just needed a few more. I asked if he wanted 911 and he said no. Sweating, gasping for breath... called 911 immediately anyway. They were there in 3 mins, and took him to the hospital. Seizures with 2 heart attacks on the drive there. Lived to tell about it.

An allegory for our own time, perhaps? Sometimes people don't recognize when their determination to bull ahead is just not enough to beat down a major health threat.

NCAA Tournament: Should it happen? β€’ Mar 12, 2020 04:40 AM

I am thinking no tournament this year. Everyone disappointed, but it reduces the chances of seeing Roy and Huggy and Leonard Hamilton die. Among 200,000 potential others.

Commentators on ESPN were predicting NCAA will cancel before tomorrow's games.

NCAA Tournament: Should it happen? β€’ Mar 12, 2020 03:11 AM

@dylans 6 days, actually, not 2 weeks!

NCAA Tournament: Should it happen? β€’ Mar 12, 2020 02:18 AM

@kjayhawks The doctors in Italy are trying to get the word out that the virus can be extraordinarily miserable for younger people, too. A thing to remember is that it is averaging something like 20 days from diagnosis to recovery for people surviving, even younger ones. In some hospials, they are triaging by not even intubating elderly or putting them on respirators so they can devote ICUs to people with a better chance of survival. One doctor sais he is furious about people saying it is like the flu or a cold. It is not.

NCAA Tournament: Should it happen? β€’ Mar 12, 2020 02:12 AM

So, we have 9 presumptive cases here in SC, and 7 of them were in the next county over, but if hospitalized come to ours. It is a county where about half the workers come here to work. Makes you really think about the many ways you could connect with this. We are laying low as much as possible for awhile...

NCAA Tournament: Should it happen? β€’ Mar 11, 2020 11:26 PM

@jayballer73 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

There is always a chance possibly that this may be straightened out some by the time we get to the great 8 final four - - maybe fans could still attend those games

No, there is no chance, barring divine intervention with parting clouds and a giant syringe descending from the skies.

NCAA Tournament: Should it happen? β€’ Mar 11, 2020 09:31 PM

@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

Imagine how it will be winning a title for the team that does in an empty arena.

"And both fans go wild!"

One of the Wildest Turnarounds, Saint Peter's β€’ Mar 11, 2020 09:11 PM

@wissox They must have really thought this book was petty silly!

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NCAA Tournament: Should it happen? β€’ Mar 11, 2020 05:31 PM

Maybe we shouldn't be discussing these runs so much.

2300 more cases in Italy in just one day.

NCAA Tournament: Should it happen? β€’ Mar 11, 2020 05:27 PM

@drgnslayr TP is even funnier during forecasted snowstorms. At least this one could involve being quarantined for weeks. Snowstorms, not so much...

NCAA Tournament: Should it happen? β€’ Mar 11, 2020 04:44 PM

@drgnslayr Much of those reactions are due to society, government, and business refusing to prepare for this. Heath officials and epidemiologists have warned of pandemics for years. Many have warned that disruptions from being unprepared will be catastrophic compared to prepping ahead of time and getting people conditioned to the necessity of coordinated responses that include restrictions on gatherings and movement.

NCAA Tournament: Should it happen? β€’ Mar 11, 2020 04:15 PM

@drgnslayr It will probably have to run its course this time around before any reliable stat is finalized.

Lack of accurate testing is a big bugaboo. For all of our uncertainty about unreported cases where people got no med care, there have got to also be deaths in some locations that no one even associated with COVID-19. Someone already ill with pneumonia or other resp distress that just took a turn without any known contact with travellers, etc. I even wonder if the flu stats have been affected by misdiagnoses. Lots of misunderstandings were evident in news reports in Jan and Feb.

Someone on my cruise forum just posted a rant about this just being a news hype and saying it is not even a epidemic. 120,000 infected, 7 billion not. More of a chance to be hit by lightning. Claims to be a first responder.

I asked him if the extremely low chance of being hit by lightning meant he stands under tall trees or on open hilltops during thunderstorms, or if he takes reasonable precautions like a sane person would?

NCAA Tournament: Should it happen? β€’ Mar 11, 2020 02:57 PM

@drgnslayr You may find it interesting to read the section on how they calculate the lethality rate in this site (which is the best site for all stats and info showing how it spreads, too; many links there full of great info).

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/#correct β†—

My NCAA Prediction . . . β€’ Mar 11, 2020 02:38 PM

@drgnslayr said in My NCAA Prediction . . .:

Moved this to a new thread...

And then someone stole my Helms line. Sniff... πŸ˜₯

One of the Wildest Turnarounds, Saint Peter's β€’ Mar 11, 2020 02:34 PM

@kjayhawks After seeing the reference to Kentucky earlier in the thread, the Robert Morris connex to ousting St. Peter's, is interesting. They took out UK in the 2013 NIT in the first round.

Looking it up, I was surprised to see the game was in the little town, Moon Township, PA, where Cal grew up and was named prom king. "You can't go home again."

NCAA Tournament: Should it happen? β€’ Mar 11, 2020 02:21 PM

@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

If you are sick or elderly, I’d advise not to go.

Your post reflects a common if understandable misperception. The problem for large events isn't primarily the risk to attendees. It is that perfectly healthy people get infected at a high rate, then infect others, some of whom are high risk.

Consider, the New Rochelle, NY, area has been locked down Italy-style due to an outbreak that has been traced to a single⁸ 50 year old lawyer. First his entire family -- son, wife, daughter -- then the friend who drove him to the hospital, then other friends, colleagues, and synagogue acquaintances all ended up positive in less than a week. 108 cases in the county! And they don't even know where he got it.

So, assume just 5 people who unknowingly have been exposed go to an arena with 20,000 people--and they go to both sessions on a weekend. With the fast spread rate of this thing, assuming each sick person infects only 2, how many could be infected within a week? And how many down the line might visit a nursing home or live with cancer patients or, travelling to or from, just touch things at the store or the gas pump after coughing into their hands?

Unfortunately, there is a reason why eliminating large gatherings is virtually always a vital step in stopping epidemics--because it works. It slows down transmission so that resources can be marshalled and so the disease can be studied and more effective treatments can be developed for the symptoms, and eventually, hopefully, a vaccine.

Bottom line, many perfectly healthy people can acquire the virus and end up killing a large number of others. Will the NCAA want to deal with the PR of dozens, perhaps hundreds or even thousands, of cases ultimately tracked to the tourney?

My NCAA Prediction . . . β€’ Mar 11, 2020 12:45 AM

@Marco said in My NCAA Prediction . . .:

Are we even going to have a tournament?

Let's think this through...if it is cancelled, maybe we can get another Helms Championship!

NOA response from KU discussion β€’ Mar 11, 2020 12:43 AM

Wonder if any students were retained from then, and if they got "Silvio-ed" for receiving that cash?

I love the defense--"didn't know I couldn't give cash to my players." Anyone hiring this clown should just be put on probation for being stupid.

2020 Bubble Watch β€’ Mar 10, 2020 07:01 PM

@kjayhawks SC is toast if they don't win the SEC tourney. Women's team going strong, though!

NOA response from KU discussion β€’ Mar 10, 2020 02:36 PM

@nuleafjhawk I think it is impossible to get rid of corruption in politics.

Stupidity in politics is a good target if you can tell me how to fix stupid in the voters!

NOA response from KU discussion β€’ Mar 10, 2020 01:44 PM

Just a quick observation: KU depending on the appeal of the federal case not being final sort of depends on that case not becoming final while ours is still pending. What happens if it does?

I am also wondering something about my fellow readers: how many of you supporting KU's objection to the NCAA's use of the not-technically-admissible evidence have ever expressed anger about a criminal defendant getting off on a technicality if a judge threw out a technically illegal search?

I am a full defender of the exclusionary rule, but I seem to vaguely recall that not everyone is....

Is Silvio finito? β€’ Mar 09, 2020 08:26 PM

@chriz said in Is Silvio finito?:

Heck, they originally cleared him and then reneged on that later.

He was never cleared of alleged receipt of funds by his guardian. People constantly think an initial eligibility determination when entering college sports is some white glove test that explores all aspects of players' and their families' lives. Not so.

NOA response from KU discussion β€’ Mar 09, 2020 01:16 PM

@Bwag Gotta like the Mafia-style sales pitch, though. "I found a problem for you. A few mil and it goes away."

He didn't understand that the mob has an alternative when they offer a deal that makes it one "that they can't refuse."