@Statmachine I thought the concetns over the PG "misses" were way overwrought. I was a fan of both Mason and Graham long before they "blossomed" but Frank's wild drives to the rim drove me crazy for a couple of years until he figured out how to protect the ball and finish. Then he looked like a wizard who could magically move the ball through opponents' bodies until he was at the rim. And then he pulled his second magic act--tumbling to the floor 4 to 6 times a game all season without getting hurt.
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Remember the Sherron factor, I'm telling you... He wouldn't have rec'd Moore if the guy is a chump!
Devontae and the New Miracles!
@KUSTEVE I am still awaiting the complete story from BP's mom.
Not presumptuous at all. Remember, he spent all weekend and half of this week not coaching. Just being outraged. I assure you he spent far more time this week with his lawyers than would have been necessary to get a lawsuit ginned up. What, a five page complaint with a couple of affidavits affirming the factual basis and service on the defendants? If he was innocent, truly innocent, any attorney with experience in federal court could have drafted that in 2 hours.
@KUSTEVE What if they aren't connected but are parallel events? And what if the NCAA made a little deal with Trier for some inside info on the program?
I think it more likely that those issues we previously discussed on the drug test played a role. He has been subjected to random unannounced tests, and these were only trace amounts. Now they are saying of an undisclosed drug, which may be a change or just a slight backing away to protect him from further public speculation.
On Stumpy, I was awaiting a ten million dollar libel suit. If he is innocent, that would have been the logical step (it should have been filed on Monday when the court opened) and ESPN would have had to make a complete retraction and apology (might not stop a suit, though), or reveal its source in discovery or face sanctions including a possible default judgment.
When someone doesn't sue when they are so "outraged" I always stay skeptical of their unwillingness to have discovery served on them. Phone records? Calendars? Emails? Texts? Usually a treasure trove of interesting info.
@HighEliteMajor He will be the sleeper of the 2020 draft.
KC is 5-0, with a 3 run average differential per game. Soler has 3 HRs.
@SlickRockJayhawk No lawyer! Why not make as strong a statement denying it as possible? He can't lose anything more if he is guilty by shouting loud and hard that he isn't! Press conferences can sway people long before charged are filed.
@JayHawkFanToo Did he deny taking it?
@jaybate-1.0 Why? Because I think sometimes there is a dialogue on an interesting topic, and I am a hopeless optimist that maybe you finally set aside your petulant side in favor of trying to get along.
You are right, that is on me.
The "painting" comment was only in response to your post describing what you do. It had nothing to do with length or content. I meant you put some things out there and instead of discussing them, you are like the painter who says everyone with questions about his art has to answer them him, or her, self.
Finally, what is the Buffer thing all about? I can't go look that up anywhere!
@Kcmatt7 CF? I mean, I like 2 left fielders but only pitching fast pitch softball against a totally LH lineup.
BShark said:
KU players play with amputated limbs regularly.
That explains why they are shorter by the time they have NBA combine measurements than when they enrolled at KU.
@KUSTEVE It doesn't have to be the game itself, just a con similar to the good old investment advice reverse pyramid. Could be he gives touts to an equal number each way and only keeps contacting the people who won on their last bet and keeps doing this until he has lost this group and sets up a new one, replenishing all the time. Often starts with a free one to prove how good he is and pull people in. The ones who lose toward the end don't quit after winning a bunch of times in a row, because they figure he just had bad luck once. A good one can milk it for awhile with his trusting "winners".
@jaybate-1.0 And your approach could be called painting, not sharing. When someone asks for more information, sometimes they just are interested in where you saw something. If they suggest they disagree or disbelieve, and ask for where you saw something, they are asking for elaboration. Sometimes they are asking simply because it differs from what they thought before, but asking indicates an open mind.
You post the lengthiest discourses that supposedly invite discussion, but you flip off JHF2 all the time, and me half the time, and some others occasionally. But I think you don't realize that many people might have similar thoughts or questions to the ones we raise.
@approxinfinity Us real life JAGs resent that! C'mon, you saw us on TV hanging out with Marine JAG babes and saving the country from nuclear sabotage and stuff!
@JayHawkFanToo Actually, those charges happen more often than you think. Usually it is the result of having credible witnesses to the crime but the physical evidence is in the hands of, and belongs to, the alleged perpetrator. Bringing the charges ensures that if the evidence gets destroyed by the accused he can then be prosecuted for obstruction of justice. Independently of the underlying crime.
You might say they can get the evidence using a search warrant, but there might not be any ability to narrow down the places it could be.
I have no idea what happened with the Gov, but I have seen cases brought where the perp took pictures without consent and then bragged about them and showed them to people. Finding posts of the pics on the internet made taking the pictures chargeable even without the originals or the camera.
@jaybate-1.0 I am always happy when I get back on and find 10 to 15 upvotes because it is the assurance I need that @Red.Rooster is back on checking things out!
An interesting comparison, my warm feelings about Rooster vs my antipathy toward the other member of Gallus gallus domesticus, the evil el pollo!
@HighEliteMajor Heck, then you can practice law (and keep practicing until you get it right), sue anyone whenever you feel like it, and provide weighty answers on the Internet like real people!
@Kcmatt7 Come to think of it, it might also be to avoid having to give Ned CPR whenever he looks around.
@Kcmatt7 Another factor re Escobar (and Salvy) is keeping enough familiar faces so fans keep tuning in. If it is a wholesale turnover with crappy performance during the rebuild, the fans would leave in droves. Having a few WS winners still there gives everyone a feeling of a link to the past even as the new tide washes most of it away.
@jaybate-1.0 Don't know anything about that. I was hoping you would treat JHF2's question seriously, like the rest of us do all our lives when someone says something startling (Huh? Where'd you hear that?), so I could do further reading. Your responses to him are really really odd.
@dylans He actually had Texas as co-champs with us twice during the Streak.
@jaybate-1.0 In practice debates in HS, whenever we got caught making an assertion without authority, we used to say, Why that's just common knowledge! In the case of the NIT in the late 40's I think that works. Dunno about the others, though.
@Kcmatt7 I don't think stats in the "Not Intheother Tournament" should count toward career, season, or game statistics, anyway. Call it an exhibition.
@KUSTEVE And UTenn is tied for first in the SEC. It would be nice to see Barnes break through.
Andrew White III got called up to Atlanta from their G League this week. They have a small forward who has an injury. He played 19 mins with 4 pts Monday night. AW3 was not active for their game last night, however.
@HighEliteMajor That site is great. Took me a long time to get an idea how much is there. It really is fun exploring the different drop downs. And you can do searches that filter out info.
@BeddieKU23 Hard to imagine a Shaq sprout being too light!
@BeddieKU23 How is his FT skill? Did he inherit the bad gene?
@BeddieKU23 Maybe they can pay 100 large to get a big from a local program?
@jaybate-1.0 None. The annual TiddlyWinks competition was the most corrupt.
I hear players were flipping all over the place.
@KUSTEVE Actually, I never bought the whole story from the beginning because I am always skeptical of stories based on "sources claiming knowledge of the tape". I think they went with someone who claimed to have been told by someone else what was on the tape.
It is far more credible when they claim that two or more sources heard tapes directly or watched video.
It is the difference between hearing something from the first person who was told something in a game of Telephone, and hearing it from someone 5 links down the line. Unreliable.
It sounds, though, as if UAz does not yet think Stumpy is cleared. This may be a smoke/fire situation. So, I won't go so far as to say a complete pile of steaming crap, but ESPN should just retract it completely while they review it.
Bought a pair of Brooks running shoes yesterday, just to be safe, though. Have never supported Nike. Brooks is owned by Berkshire Hathaway. Just don't tell me Warren Buffet did this to help Creighton down the street in Omaha! (Just funnin' ya!)
@jaybate-1.0 But at least when the NCAA was sued for putting the NIT out of business the NCAA did the honorable thing--they bought 'em.
@Buster-1926 Ah, yes, the famed sequence of homo blonde-iens versus the sadly extinct tortiseus Tarkanianus.
@BShark Tastes like . . . . chicken.
@wrwlumpy About that topic title....
@KUSTEVE Complete vindication! Wow! All the details about Nike's involvement, and how Phil Knight pulled strings with ESPN to screw AZ in the game....oh, wait. There aren't.
In a more serious vein, did anybody here disagree with the part about problems with the report? Or just about your Knight suggestion?
@DoubleDD Seth Greenburg is now pushing Self for National COY.
Lots of commentators and writers are saying this is Self's best coaching job ever.
Go figure: You get inducted into the Hall of Fame and you follow it up by doing even better? Unbelievable!
Well, the Royals went for big and right handed.
http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2018/02/28/royals-sign-lucas-duda/ ↗
He is the guy who tried to throw Hosmer out at the plate in the 9th inning of the 5th game, and now he replaces him. Funny connections in this game!
@KUSTEVE Oh, that's right--we got Withey as fallout from the scandal involving Arizona's last coach when he resigned....
@KUSTEVE Thx!
@bskeet As I see it, we don't get credit for elite wins essentially because the teams we beat haven't beaten enough teams themselves. That is, of course, due in no small part to the fact that we beat every team in conference at least once, so we have reduced the eliteness of our opponents.
They apply a transitive property of eliteness. Getting more credit works like this:
If more teams had beaten us twice, they would be better and rise to elite status. We are all that is keeping teams from doing that. So, we need to lose more often to teams we beat so they will have better records.
@drgnslayr Weren't we the ones who got accused of something suspicious by Steve Fisher when we allegedly took Withey away from USD?
@jhawk7782 Yeah, the explored hinterlands really have been picked over like a yard sale at noon.
@elpoyo What the hell is wrong with you? That post was completely out of line.
@elpoyo They may have mentioned the weather. Or the tornados. But not Sharknados, apparently.
More seriously, I suspect a kid who has grown up surrounded by wealth and celebrity in the entertainment capital of the US was not real interested in leaving it all behind for the unexplored hinterland.
@KUSTEVE Correcting timelines on a story like this, and backing down from a statement of fact to a statement that a source says something, is precisely what happens when a journalist has written a story based on a source who later turns out to be not credible or corroborated.
That is why I think it was released erroneously before higher level editors could assure themselves it could be corroborated.
It is also why virtually no major news organization releases anything until they have one or even two corroborations.
Now, Jethro, I think it is fair to examine the original source's motives in telling ESPN about the alleged wiretap. We could well infer that source was connected to someone who was hoping to make bucks on the game. If so, they duped ESPN, I think. That only requires a crooked source either connected to the FBI or pretending to be, a gullible reporter, and an anxious editor. This makes more sense than having a conspiracy between someone at Nike, Knight, and a number of people at ESPN.
Just experimenting closer to international game. Should go to the trapezoid lane and shorter clock.
@KUSTEVE No. ESPN likely screwed this up on their own. Phil Knight stands to lose more money if he screws a big client and a player likely to bring in millions to Nike over the years. If the story got out (and why wouldn't it?) he would be risking being barred permanently from Oregon basketball to help Ore win a game it won anyway w/o Ayton being absent. Stumpy being on the court could not be the huge edge Knight was seeking.
Occam's Razor.
@dylans So did Svi right before he thanked the fans for supporting them through everything and filling AFH.