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Dotson has 2 fouls already, ouch.
justanotherfan said:
I don't get the Shaka hate here. He's a solid coach. Is it really just because he got his team prepared to beat us on a big stage when Self fell into one of his old habits (i.e., playing certain guys too much). That's not Shaka Smart's fault. We complain about that on this board all the time. Shaka Smart had a team that exploited that.
Personally, I was unimpressed with his snarky remark at the press conference when introduced as the new Texas coach. A reporter asked if his brand of basketball would transfer well to the Big 12, and he responded, “It translated pretty well a few years ago in San Antonio.” And then he smirked, with the most punchable face I remember seeing.
I didn't hate him after we lost to VCU. I was pleased when he was hired at Texas because I thought he was a quality coach. But he could have handled that question with more class. I thought his answer was a dick move. One quality win did not justify his arrogance.
It was just one comment, and maybe he's paid for it by now. But I probably won't ever have any warm and fuzzy feelings for him.
@Crimsonorblue22 Well, that's a good point. Laziness could be infectious. I think our whole team kind of quit trying in the last several minutes of the game yesterday, and that was the most disappointing thing I saw.
But Lagerald's issue is usually lack of focus more than lack of effort, it seems to me. Self has often commented that players are putting forth the effort, but just aren't clued in to what they should be doing.
Yesterday was different. The lack of effort by Vick and several others stood out. It was pretty clear they had kind of given up. But that's not what we usually see.
I've been surprised by some recent box scores at the number of minutes Vick played because I just didn't remember him. He didn't do anything memorable, either good or bad. I don't think that's cancerous, just cluelessness. Lack of positive impact differs from a negative impact. Sins of omission rather than commission. Still sins, perhaps, but to me a bit different.
Yesterday, though, most of the team was guilty of both.
@Bwag You're spot on. All the current problems with our team are mental. That's something a good coach can fix, and we happen to have a hall-of-fame coach. We'd all prefer the fix happen sooner rather than later, but we just need patience. Last year's team didn't gel until late in the season, and we were a lot more mature than this year's team. I think we'll get there.
Great article too, thanks for sharing.
@Crimsonorblue22 Certainly senior leadership is lacking. Vick is our lone senior, and as a multi-year starter he should provide that leadership, but he's not going to. I just think failing to lead is different than sabotaging the team, which is implied by the term cancer.
I think cancer is too strong. To me, a cancer infects the whole team, leading to its demise. Clearly Vick is a head case, and unpredictable. But is he the reason everyone else is playing so poorly? If he were truly cancerous, last year's team would not have played in the Final 4.
I don't think he will be the go-to guy we were hoping for based on his performance early this season, but I also don't think his flightiness will prevent the rest of the team from starting to play together as a team. He may not be the answer, but he's also not the whole problem.
@Crimsonorblue22 Dedric and Quentin answered questions from the press.
I wish we wouldn't give up. Play with some pride, even if the outcome looks bad.
We're down by 6 and ISU has 16 points off turnovers. That's fixable.
@stoptheflop Rebounding is keeping us in the game.
Both teams have shot 11-24. The story so far is turnovers and rebounds.
@kjayhawks Now we're 3-8 on 3-pointers.
DanR said:
Could be worse!
Yep, we've held ISU to 12% shooting.
@Crimsonorblue22 Trying to decide what to do? I'm not sure.
Vick got away with a double dribble
@KirkIsMyHinrich Maybe they will score 20 points in 30 seconds.
Dotson isn't a lottery pick yet. He'll be back.
You can't compare a freshman to a senior. Time will tell.
Crap.
Garrett has 5 of our 10 assists, though.
@BShark In a row!
We got a FG! Only took 7 minutes.
Shut up Fran. It was a flop.
Glad UNC knocked off Harvard in good time.
We get Fran. Blech.
@drgnslayr Is that because Charlie committed a moving screen? Would that be the ruling, if an offensive player runs into a defender guarding the guy with the ball? Or the defender runs into him because he was in the way??
Whew!
DanR said:
Let's set up a play where Garrett gets an assist
Then he'd have 4 steals, 4 assists, and 4 boards. And one point.
@Bwag They are in a scoring contest, each with 25. I like it! Who will win?
@wissox But we think he's a glory hound and a weenie.
@DanR Voice of reason.
DanR said:
Good job Garrett third missed layup thougj
At least he got fouled and gets to shoot free throws. Because that always works out well.
Dedric and Vick now have 44. The rest of the team has 10.
@kjayhawks Plus our turnovers. Give them another shot.
@Crimsonorblue22 Passing to his own team is not a strength of his (Grimes).
@dylans Priorities.
Eric-san said:
Can Marcus like stop shooting 3s.
Hey, Garrett has been working hard on his 3-point shot, and you can tell by his improved percentage over last year – from 27% to 29%.
Well, we're ahead at half. That's unusual.
BShark said:
So Moore and Dotson 2 fouls each, let's play Dotson.
Nah, we're a second-half team. Our effort comes late in the game. Let's save the good guy for then.
Trying to come up with something positive to say about Garrett's offense. The only thing I can come up with...I really like his defense.
JayHawkFanToo said:
Villanova...
I called them nouveau riche, and Connecticut. Indiana is the nouveau pauvre.
@JayHawkFanToo Sorry, who? I'm unclear about the antecedent of your pronoun.
@mayjay The Calipari link taints everything!
Villanova is Nouveau riche. Also Connecticut.
Indiana is Nouveau pauvre, the bankrupt aristocracy, as @mayjay said.
"Knowing" something and having evidence are different. The most troubling "evidence" from that trial was from a wiretapped phone conversation by Kurtis Townsend. Were phones of Duke coaches tapped, or only phones of coaches from Adidas schools? I'd guess Nike schools have less to worry about. The FBI taps phone, but the NCAA does not. But the NCAA would have more information to use against Adidas schools, regardless of what they think they know.
@BeddieKU23 When somebody with lots of minutes has zero fouls, I usually think they should have been more aggressive on defense.
Errors of omission versus errors of commission. We had a lot of omission in the paint during the first half.
@SlickRockJayhawk He's apparently giving the post-season message now.
"I think the guys, if they can kind of play with more freedom mentally then we’ll play better."
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2018/dec/09/ku-coach-bill-self-seeking-mental-freedom-toughnes/ ↗
@Texas-Hawk-10 Good point. And hopefully mature students would be less likely to need remedial classes in basic human behavior.
We teach remedial classes in Math and English at KU. Nobody with a decent Jr High and High School education should have to take those classes, but not everybody gets a decent education in Jr High and High School.
So why not teach remedial classes in basic human behavior for those who need it? Apparently some people don't get a decent education in that either.
Took me a while to find Krzyzewski. He's right in the middle of the graph, but I thought he would be on the far right somewhere (large sample size). Only about 50 of his 1100 wins have been close? (from the graph, he's won ~53% of ~90 close games)