@BeddieKU23 Trying to find out his age. That would be key for reclassing.
BShark
33646 posts
@BeddieKU23 They definitely know each other, how deep it goes idk.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Eh, never know.
KU just offered: https://247sports.com/Player/Dawson-Garcia-46050093/ ↗
Surprised Duke isn't involved considering the success they've had with Minnesota kids recently.
Duke comes in and gets players whenever they want, they don't have to be involved early. I'm sure if they have to move down their want list, they could get involved.
@BeddieKU23 The main hope would be that he is close to McBride. If there is a shoe thing and he wants KU, then it wouldn't be hard to get him switched. We see it happen all the time when a kid wants a school but people involved also want to get paid.
@FarmerJayhawk Looks like a beast to me, pogo stick. Appears to be Adidas for now, I like our chances against Marquette and Indiana if that holds.
@BeddieKU23 Eh, never know.
KU just offered: https://247sports.com/Player/Dawson-Garcia-46050093/ ↗
Sure seems like Self is just going to leave the scholarship open now.
@Crimsonorblue22 more flooding
@Crimsonorblue22 Many within the fan base have been calling for Howard's head.
approxinfinity said:
https://n.rivals.com/news/freshman-tre-white-commits-to-kansas ↗
Beat out TT.
Beat everyone if he develops like he could. Low risk move imo.
Tre White who knows the Wilson family well. Says something about how long Jalen plans to be here perhaps...
Well we have a commit so I guess we need a thread.
@Crimsonorblue22 he is. Probably having fun with his friend Mayberry. Close this one Bill.
@drgnslayr last yr and wigs are the only two recently. Usually Self teams play very hard.
Wooooo
Boooooom
@drgnslayr Duke 2015 was a OAD party too.
ITS RAINING COMMITS
nuleafjhawk said:
@drgnslayr said: "Isn’t it possible we are giving too much attention to rankings over what the players actually bring to the table?"
Yes.
Way too much attention given to "rankings" and not nearly enough to work ethic, character, team play - things like that. Is it my imagination or is this going for the rankings (OAD) thing a relatively new thing for KU? Especially the past 10 years or so.
Not really. KU has always had high ranked guys. The last 15 years or so rankings have been much more national though. The internet changed the game.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BShark was easy for me, Ben Mac looks good, nice tribute to his brother! Life is so hard sometimes. I hope some team gives him a chance.
It was just some self deprecating humor. I'm actually pretty good with names and faces.
@drgnslayr I do think hustle was an issue at times last year. Grimes and Vick were prime offenders. Last year also had some of the worst team Chem I have ever seen under Bill.
justanotherfan said:
From L to R - Mario Little, Russell Robinson, Mario Chalmers, Ben McLemore, Jamari Traylor, Sherron Collins, Tyshawn Taylor.
I actually got it all right on first glance, a true miracle.
Can't recruit every 3* just how it is.
Agree with looking at foreign recruits if they are looking to play college ball.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
@kjayhawks 2009, ESPN closed their live broadcast with that nugget.
I'm shocked.
@jayballer73 looks like it will be a life long struggle for him
@Fightsongwriter Plenty of athletes capable of playing elite defense playing at TTU and Virginia. Unless you mean only current players at KU.
@drgnslayr Dedric WAS trying hard. He was just that slow and unathletic. He again, along with Grimes had some of the absolute worst measurables at the combine.
@Crimsonorblue22 Self should have adjusted to the rule changes by now. No more excuses it's been many years.
@dylans What Bill says vs what Bill does.
@approxinfinity HOWLING.
@jayballer73 Sherron
Marco said:
@jayballer73 Man, I hope. Last I heard there was some kind of scheduling conflict.
He's making it this weekend. Gotta hit a HR.
Bois back in LFK
![alt text](img src="https://media.giphy.com/media/sOGgevbtBDYKQ/giphy.gif" style="max-width:100%;")
HawkChamp said:
approxinfinity said:
Texas Hawk 10 said:
@FarmerJayhawk It's not really about Dave starting over Silvio because that's not likely to happen. It's more about whether or not Dave could back up Silvio. If Mitch redshirts, a back up 4 is the one potential weakness on this roster. Jalen Wilson's athleticism is a big issue because he's in the Brannen Greene, Quinton Grimes range of athleticism.
Yeah I'm already wondering how taking on Jalen was a good idea. This kid better have steel nerves and dedication. More Perry, less Q and Green.
Why would it not be a good idea? Best case scenario, he can play between 10 and 20 minutes a game, play decent D and make some threes. At worst, he's a backup when someone gets in foul trouble who you can put it to steal a few minutes. Sounds like a win-win to me.
I like taking him because Self should try to field the best team he can. I do however see Texas Hawk's concern as these kind of players have mostly not worked out under Bill.
@drgnslayr We needed Dedric last year, but I think everyone was ready to move on by the end. A big part of the defense suffering was Q and Dedric. Dedric produced, but then gave it back on the other end. I can understand why Self favors athletic guys that can defend.
jayballer73 said:
Nice recruit coming in this weekend for un-official. -- Keenan Caldwell pretty good size boy -- Nose Tackle - would be a nice addition - says been having seen pretty decent offers. - -out of I believe Monroe Louisiana - - Another possible Louisiana Animal - -hell ya - hit it out of the park Les - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Big want
KUSTEVE said:
@Kcmatt7 I assumed Charlie would be better, and that Devon would be worse. Devon was much better than I could've dreamed of- never seen a freshman point guard come in from Day 1 and play like that.
Look, I hate to say I told you so on both counts...wait I don't hate to say it at all. :p
I think that is a great role for Garrett. Also helps to be able to start the game by not having a terrible offensive line-up on the floor. I think Bill needs to be careful with who Garrett plays with.
@Texas-Hawk-10 It's definitely another issue. I like what I was starting to see last year with him working on screens and being able to recover. He also looks like he has slimmed down pretty well.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Supposedly he's the best shooting big on the team, better than Silvio.
@Kcmatt7 10 or so minutes and all at the 4.
@drgnslayr Jalen is 6'8''. The sooner he realizes he is a 4 the better imo.
HighEliteMajor said:
Doesn't this team cry out, louder than any recent predecessor, to play conventional? To feed the post? 3/2?
And as mentioned above, defense, defense, defense. Great summary on the KenPom rankings - @BShark. Really enlightening.
I like the 4/1, but when it comes down to it, I still believe nothing beats the 3/2 high/low. But you have to have the regular and constant use of the kick out three. Inside out. And make that a primary weapon.
That was @BeddieKU23 on the kenpom averages.
This is why Moss is such a great fit. If this team is going to bang and bash he is a perfect fit as the old spot up 3 guy in Self's offense. I think it will be the majority, with most likely Wilson being the back-up 4 which gives a lot of flexibility. Mitch will be the back-up 4 if he doesn't RS but I believe that is happening from what I've heard.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
@Marco Marcus Garrett will average over 25 minutes per game this year and none of the freshmen are better than him.
Yep.
Let's think about it, this was a weak class. Wilson is by all accounts skilled and obviously has great size. So then, why is he still ranked in the 50s in a bad class. Imo it's due to his lack of lateral quickness and he isn't the best athlete, not enough so to immediately play the guard/wing at this level. I think his time will be spent at the 4, ala Marcus Morris/Perry.
nuleafjhawk said:
@Marco We need to sign Dante.
I hear he's an inferno...
No chance for more than one reason.
Yeah, just didn't have the bodies plus playing small w/o the pieces to defend small in 17 and 18. Last year was encouraging in that KU got back into the top 20 despite having two well below average athletes starting and playing big minutes.
@BeddieKU23 Hoping Self has realized this after being smoked in the tournament two straight years...