@Kcmatt7 Adidas couldn't get us Zion or even worse Hurt. That said, RJ seems to like KU a lot so that really helps.
@FarmerJayhawk The Josh year would have majorly sucked without him.
Kevin Young revealed today.
Kcmatt7 said:
Recruiting this year has been depressing af. Legacy misses. Top target missed. USA Basketball bearing no fruit. Duke is going to steal Stanley away last minute. We clearly wasted time on guys like Wiseman we knew we had no shot at.
Yeah it's a steaming pile, hopefully Self salvages something.
On the last part, I never understood it. I guess because Self ended up with Wiggins and Josh he feels he has to try in any recruitment.
HighEliteMajor said:
@BShark Sorry, what "Sam" are you referring to?
Sam Williamson, ended up at Louisville.
Marco said:
Let's keep track, shall we? JRE, gone elsewhere. Williamson, gone elsewhere. Hall, ditto. Hurt, yep, gone elsewhere. Three out of those 4 along with Braun and McBride sure would've been nice. We dropped the ball bigtime in recruiting this year. Hell, Hall and Williamson were all but begging to be Jayhawks, and I think JRE bolted due to our infatuation with Hurt. Let's hope that coach Self has learned something (regardless of whether we land Precious and Hampton at this point) from all of this. I sure as the hell have.
The rumor is that Self screwed the pooch with Sam by pushing too hard for a commitment on the visit. Ticked off his mom.
With JRE his mom is part of one of the absolute biggest KU families there is. It seems likely to me that they might have bought into the Self leaving rumors that were hot and heavy and that could be a big reason we lost JRE.
Missing on two legacy recruits is pretty rough for sure.
Definitely didn't show enough interest in Hall.
Ultimately it doesn't really mean anything but it is nice to see. Long and Self came out swinging on this subject tonight and I would bet a large part of it is to quell the rumors and calm the some of the donors. Hopefully the ball gets rolling on some player additions for next year's team.
HighEliteMajor said:
Strangely silent? The athletics director.
If Self’s possible departure has been used against him, why wouldn’t the AD make some public statement related to a united front with Self?
One possibility — they ain’t. There is more chatter about this. They could quell it quite easily.
That extension would be one solid way to take care of it.
What?
Oh and please everyone if you can support the team on the TBT website. Doesn't take much and they still aren't in yet.
https://thetournament.com/teams/self-made-kansas-alumni ↗
Excited to see more reveals. Hope they get in and do well.
dylans said:
Out of curiosity hard commit means exactly what? Less likely to flip? Signed a loi?
It means verbal/not signed.
Gorilla said:
@BShark . The player BIO states from Warren Easton HS. Isn't that the high school that Tony Hull coached before moving to KU?
Yes. It's the only reason KU is still on his list I would imagine.
stoptheflop said:
@jayballer73 Who is Clayton? Position, etc. Thanks, Gerry.
Considering what Dayton has to work with, I'd say he has done just fine.
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
Seems like KU has a real good shot at Holyfield fwiw.
Agreed. I think he's best as a utility man off the bench. Bring back Doke, get Blackshear, sign Holyfield as the first big off the bench. Prosper.
I would stab someone in a dark back alley to make this happen. :eyes:
jayballer73 said:
BShark said:
Seems like KU has a real good shot at Holyfield fwiw.
well that may not be such a bad thing right?
Would be a high quality addition imo. We need some dudes in the front court for sure.
Seems like KU has a real good shot at Holyfield fwiw.
BeddieKU23 said:
pay him whatever he wants to come here. I posted the comparison of stats between him and Lawson. Almost identical
Did it in the ACC and slightly better advanced numbers.
But yeah, w/e it takes.
FarmerJayhawk said:
No reason not to at this point. He's better than Hurt will be.
Absolutely. He is better than any HS SR KU could add at this pt.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Kerry Blackshear evaluating both grad transfer and pro options.
He would be the kind of addition that would make KU super salty next year. Hope KU gets involved.
Kcmatt7 said:
They would fit here though. Sounds like they didn’t want to play with Howard again. Just wanted to play good team basketball, not watch Howard play hero ball.
Bill should give them a call if this is the case.
Oh and would take either of those two but I think I would actually prefer Holyfield. Achiuwa might be high drama/maintenance.
@FarmerJayhawk Can KU beat out Miami and Creighton for this kid though? We know both will back up the cash dump truck.
Staff has to get creative I guess. Hope it happens, I like him long term.
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
BIG time transfers right there.
Yup, one play, one sits right
Both sit actually.
BIG time transfers right there.
Woodrow said:
Looks like Beverly is committing today and Miami is the choose. Running out of options.
Looks like we aren't paying, which hurts our chances with ANY recruit.
Sad.
Will KU sign another recruit ever again?
FarmerJayhawk said:
You act like there aren't a gazillion good players still left out there that KU is in a good spot with. Dotson will almost certainly be back. KU is in a good spot with Precious, Hampton, and some grad transfers. I guess if things are that bad you can always follow dook.
I'm just feeling zany because everyone is jumping ship (even if DDot comes back as expected) and KU hasn't added a player since the fall.
Self gonna hit up the Topeka YMCA? Maybe some church leagues? Certainly not signing any high schoolers or impact transfers to get on this sinking ship. Assuming Self is still here.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BShark stop!
Stop what? Not sure KU will be able to put a basketball team on the court next year.
Yep. Everyone is leaving, no one is coming in.
no one
Or Self really might be leaving. Not adding anybody and with everything else it does kind of add up to that.
Maybe the hammer is coming. Rumors have been swirling since Nov/Dec.
Is this the wake-up call Self needs? Might miss the tournament next year but if it creates some long term change and rejuvenates the program maybe it's worth it.
WOOF
@nuleafjhawk the Chiefs have had a great off-season so far
Next year might be rough.
Lol at adding Duke to his previously cut list. Crap.
Dunking on a Missouri player. Me gusta.
bIlL sElF iS a LoCk To CoAcH tHe BuLlS
@Kcmatt7 Exactly where I'm at with it. Going to need bodies/numbers so a couple grad transfers make sense to fill out the roster.
@KirkIsMyHinrich You stop it with your fancy math.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
He'd probably average 4 blocks per game in the Southland conference.
Fair. He would also probably average like 5 pts. Mitch is basically just a zero on offense.
Idk about Mitch.
But can he jump? I assume he can jump. That was the issue for Dedric and why his blocks tapered off at the B12 level.
He is visiting Illinois as well and Underwood recruited him to SFA so this actually could be a tough pull.
BeddieKU23 said:
All time leading shot blocker at SFA
I got aroused by his defensive stats on sports reference.