Kcmatt7 said:
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/zach-johnson-2.html ↗
WOULD TAKE FO SHO.
Could be a great fit given that he played for Dooles already for 3 years.
Kcmatt7 said:
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/zach-johnson-2.html ↗
WOULD TAKE FO SHO.
Could be a great fit given that he played for Dooles already for 3 years.
Kcmatt7 said:
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/justin-coleman-2.html ↗
WOULD TAKE.
I think I mentioned him before. KU offered out of HS.
BeddieKU23 said:
Cunliffe that was in witness protection in chain shoes most of the season? I get the feeling Ogbaji passed him on the depth chart just signing his papers to come here.
I think KJ's primary position is predicated on what Doke does. Can't see him being his brother's back up at the 4, there's definitely more minutes for him on the wing currently. If Doke doesn't return I can see the Lawson's being the next Morris combo..
I agree, I see Grimes & Dotson being our 2nd & 3rd leading scorers.
It's Agbaji btw.
Agree on Cunliffe. KJ is a guy that should find minutes, regardless of if its at the 3 or 4.
BeddieKU23 said:
Self seems to be really high on Ogbaji.. Can see him being someone who gets himself on the court quicker then his ranking would suggest. Fits the need we have. Athlete, shooter. Good attitude
His ranking is going to go up anyway tbh.
BeddieKU23 said:
Bragg announced and said Kentuck..I mean I'm going to Kansas. That was bad too
Now he's at his 15th school
I think Bragg legit wanted UK and didn't have a commitable offer. Jmo though.
Kcmatt7 said:
If that ends up being his choice, I will be a little butthurt just because he would have unnecessarily drug out his recruitment. I wonder what our backup plan for the 13th scholarship is. I really don't want to take a transfer unless it is Dedric or Newman level.
Grad transfer guard imo.
JayHawkFanToo said:
I believe the show is called between the lines and goes from 2 to 6 in the afternoon and is led by Kietzman.
Trash radio lol
BeddieKU23 said:
They are announcing at his HS and its open to the Public. This one is over reading the tea leaves
This was always the plan though. I don't think it's KU because well yeah but this bit actually doesn't change anything imo.
@JayHawkFanToo Lol. Was Parish on KK's show? Can't imagine more hatred for KU in one place....
Ralster said:
Someone explain to me why some here are considering Malik, Devonté, Svi, Frank, Vick, as “less athletic” than Villanova’s NONkentucky level athletes? Just where does that come from? So I suppose that UNI team with Farokhmanesh, O’Rear, Egelseder was more athletic than our guys...just because they beat us??
Because Svi and Graham in particular are not great athletes for this level.
The UNI team was not more athletic. They slowed the game down to a crawl and had a big guy that rarely took them drain some threes.
I can't speak for anyone else but I don't use athleticism as a built in excuse, it just so happens to be true in this case. And true to have even higher level with Landen Lucas vs Bell of Oregon.
The players are not interchangeable. College basketball would plummet if the players were D2 level.
@approxinfinity That would be a nice bonus.
@Crimsonorblue22 From the statement Silvio's guardian put out.
“Your first reaction is being upset. You work hard for something. You sacrifice so much. I know Silvio’s family, where she (De Sousa's mom) lives. If you saw where she lived right now (Angola), that article would really make you upset because he is going through what he is going through to pursue his dreams and take care of his family, take care of his mom. He is doing it the right way. For people to take that away from him and away from me, it is crazy.” Of KU, Falmagne said: “Coach Self is not about that (paying players). That is one of the things I really appreciate about him. He is, like ‘Coaches are gonna offer you this. What I'm going to say is I am not going to jeopardize my livelihood for that. I can guarantee you if he really wants to be an NBA player, I can make him NBA. It’s going to take a lot of work from him, but I can get him there. That’s when his reward is going to come. Right now is not the time for it.’ I was like, ‘Wow, Coach Brown was right about this guy.' That’s when we went over there (to visit KU).’’’
@BeddieKU23 True but KU would let them out of the LOI if they wanted to. No reason to believe they do though.
@FarmerJayhawk Man, if Self pulls off Romeo in the middle of this shitstorm...
BeddieKU23 said:
Romeo will announce April 30th
Interesting timing to put it out there. Hope the recent news didn't effect anything. :/
jayballer73 said:
Well I know that Ochai Agbaji is signing his LOI tonight so looks like he is sticking around. Has anyone heard anything from the other three's camps about when they are signing their LOI - or if they might be possibly be re-considering? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
All will be fine. These kids mostly committed when KU's name was being slung around in the initial reports. Have no reason to believe they are not solid for KU still.
@Buster-1926 Well if Doke goes pro and Silvio is suspended, Mitch is suddenly the 3rd or 4th big. He'd certainly get some tick.
Too much to backread in this topic with how this board loads. That's really my only complaint with this forum software.
BeddieKU23 said:
Red Flags, amateurism, Rick Stansbury. Boy I hope we kick our tires somewhere else.
Agree. Go after clean(er) targets.
@BigBad The structure of shoe deals with the universities would have to change.
Sorry for getting a little chippy earlier btw.
Yeah I really don't see how Silvio knew about it, because it sure reads like he put a wrench in the plan by wanting to go to Kansas.
No idea on Billy, but we all pretty much read the bad vibes coming from his mom from the jump.
Kcmatt7 said:
If the NCAA would just let them fetch endorsements in the open instead of creating rules that caused this black market for recruiting to take place, we wouldn't have an issue. People want to pay the players, let them get paid. It would cost the school, literally, nothing.
Agree.
Also that the rules apply to only athletes is part of what makes it so stupid. There is nothing stopping a music major from performing a concert and making money off that.
There is clearly a market for these players. That's really all that needs to be said.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Sounds like KU is kicking the tires on top 5 big man Charles Bassey. I'm sure they're treading carefully.
As weird as it is, isn't he pretty much a WKU lock?
Does anyone still actually think college basketball is amateur athletics?
drgnslayr said:
Did our coaches know that Preston was driving around in a car he couldn't afford?
It seems like if he didn't have the little accident, Preston would have played all year and nothing mentioned of the car.
lol
BigBad said:
@Kcmatt7 You know what I'm sick of? The soft bigotry of low expectations. I'm sick of the media and fans bad mouthing the value of an education. I'm sick of these players going to 2 plus years of college and not being able to speak proper English. You hear coaches talk about holding them accountable on the court, well how about in the classroom? How about teaching these kids REAL life lessons that most if not all of them are not going to make enough money from basketball to provide for themselves until they die at 85. The idea that you get a valuable degree first to set yourself up, then if you are good enough, playing pro ball as a bonus is gone. Whats even sicker is a lot of these kids have parents who teach them to grab the first pile of dough they can and dont worry about the future.
College basketball is becoming gross. I need a break.
Are you 80 years old?
Completely disagree with this take except the last bit about the parents. Most of the kids are majoring in basketball, no need to be delusional about why they are there. Kids like Mitch are the exception at major programs.
Kcmatt7 said:
I will say that all previous cases, the athlete was caught by the NCAA. With no real way to prove that the school or a coach wasn't directly involved or aware.
This case may very well be different because the FBI has came out and declared that KU had no knowledge of either situation. KU has proven as well that they will go to great lengths to not play someone when they do have knowledge. To punish our program because of Silvio would shock me. Especially if he is ruled eligible to play this next year. If Quinerley and Nas Little can get cleared to play, Silvio will as well, and at that point there would be no vacating of wins. I'll be surprised to see us vacate anything.
This is where I'm at with it.
dylans said:
Brunson’s done will hire an agent.
Good
Not that worried about it. The team will make some threes.
@mayjay The NCAA is a powerless joke.
@mayjay Auburn, Cam Newton.
@mayjay Cliff situation too.
I have a tough time finding real victims in this other than the IRS not getting their tax money lol.
BeddieKU23 said:
ReggieKansas said:
@Kcmatt7 she wont be in trouble because hes in the nba now. Ku on the other hand could be
The most troubling part of this to me is that KU's name is involved at all. You don't have to search too far to find less then amusing headlines aimed to make the casual person believe KU is involved. I'm certain this isn't the last we hear of things
Yeah this might be the worst part about it for now.
Also I wouldn't count on elpoyo posts any time soon. :P
BeddieKU23 said:
Blown said:
Also If Silvio is not an amateur, I assume we vacate wins.....
It doesn’t matter if the school knows or not.
Better check these top recruits we are getting this year. seems odd we are getting a medium stack out of nonehere.
Also batestradamus has been talking about petro shoe company for a very long time.
They checked him, the NCAA checked. They cleared him.
Exactly my earlier point.
Not even clicking that trash from Parrish.
HighEliteMajor said:
@BShark Which makes me question the total indictment — if University actors knew, how is the university a victim? Or where does it become relevant how much the university knew? And who is the university? The case seems to want to disassociate the university from it chosen representatives. Of course, the entire deal rides on the concept that a player is ineligible because of internal rules. Just a sham case anyway.
Yeah, it's a complete joke.
wissox said:
@BShark The article I read says it doesn't name specific players.
Yeah but it's super obvious who the players involved are. You just have to piece it together.
Even ESPN managed that.
HighEliteMajor said:
@BShark The entire indictment claims all universities are the victims, not just KU. This is the first I’ve seen where no university employees supposedly knew, like an assistant coach.
Fair point. The verbage in the release did at least say that it was done w/o KU's knowledge.
@wissox I read the indictment. I mean I guess there is a non-zero (like 0.000000000001) chance that she didn't but I have a hard time seeing it any other way.
mayjay said:
If Billy's mom took the money, it took some huge amount of chutzpah for her to bitch about the investigation like she did!
She did, don't really think it can be disputed. And she's completely crazy.
@wissox I didn't say the statement proved anything. Just posted it because KU put out a statement. KU was named as a victim in the release though, fwiw. Take from that what you will.
See also: Duke and Corey Maggette.
@mayjay Are they going to sanction everyone? Schools could just tell the NCAA to pound sand.
@Statmachine I don't think "you all" is fair. Plenty here defend the choice of these kids to start getting paid.
@kjayhawks I'm going to have a ceremony where I burn mine. Way too late to return.