Yeah this team just didn't have the defensive pieces that Nova does. It was more like the Hoiberg ISU teams.
Doke is a very poor rebounder for his size. Dedric, Silvio and KJ are all ++ rebounders though.
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@BigBad Vick NEEDS money.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Very much agree and I have insinuated as much before.
@HighEliteMajor If ever there was a tournament that showed just how much of a crapshoot it really is, it was this one. Nova winning the title aside it was crazy.
@BeddieKU23 Pretty ridiculous tbh. And yeah lots of kids transferring that would have started, I don't get it in most cases. With the grad transfers I totally get it though.
@jaybate-1.0 No bombs. Only duds.
@BeddieKU23 Not sure. He looks round. I'm sure Nova will get him in better shape before he ever plays. Rivals lists at 250 pounds as well.
Which reminds me, give me the basketball lifer with a great feel for the game. Especially at the guard position. Unless the player is a total freak like Embiid.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Pretty sure the whole world knows doke is not them.🤔
Self might not given how much Doke posted up in some games.
BigBad said:
I agree small ball and a spread court is great, but are you saying there is no place in even college basketball for a Doke type?
Not at all. He's a rampaging dunk monster. I'm just saying posting him up is generally a bad idea at this point.
KUSTEVE said:
@BShark You're forgetting we have other options down low. They won't be feeding Doke unless they're driving...they'll be feeding Dedric, who can take it to the hole, or take his defender out to the 3 point line, and make a 3 pointer. With Dedric shooting 3's, small ball becomes big ball. Now, you might see an occasional entry pass, but now Doke has a ton of help down low if he doesn't have a clear shot.
30% career 3pt shooter Dedric Lawson? I like his game and I'm sure he has been working on his shot but I hope he doesn't take too many threes.
Agree with feeding Dedric. I think he will be the main focal point of the offense. Lots of post moves, good passer and a great feel for the game. I feel like you can give him the ball and good things will generally happen.
I'm hoping Grimes is good enough to be the secondary focal point of the offense. He has great body control and like Dedric a great feel for the game.
@BeddieKU23 Both of those are totally stunning....
Just an interesting nugget I stumbled across and we've been talking about this lately so I figured I would post it.
Only 9 players in the NBA this year registered 400 or more post-ups.
Lamarcus Aldrige, Dwight Howard, Joel Embiid, Nikola Jokic, Anthony Davis, Karl Anthony-Towns, Marc Gasol, Enes Kanter and Zach Randolph.
That's it. That's the entire list.
As an aside, Aldridge is a really special player. He has the lowest turnover percentage among these players by a mile. His ppp is almost 1 on post-ups which is pretty damn good and actually better than some pretty good players shooting out of pnr which kind of surprised me.
Unsurprisingly KAT and Embiid also score fairly well in these situations.
Doke is not KAT, Embiid or Aldridge.
I hope Self realizes this if Doke comes back. I hope we still see KU play some small ball when needed here and there. Play efficient. Don't make the game harder than it is.
@nuleafjhawk Might I recommend the KSU or WSU programs? Almost all their players stay 4 years!
Nah if it was me I'd take credit for it lol.
It's probably the same people. There are some differences that I see.
Newman can hopefully linger around the NBA but worst case scenario he is playing pro ball somewhere else for 1 million+ a year. He was smart to leave now.
@FarmerJayhawk No I mean I'm surprised he played in college. I was thinking he might go the Mudiay/TFerg route and play somewhere else for a year and get paid.
@truehawk93 No one can doubt his love for KU. It's pretty damn awesome.
@Fightsongwriter I mean it's kind of entertaining.
Link for anyone that wants it: https://omny.fm/shows/between-the-lines/playlists/podcast/embed ↗
@FarmerJayhawk Quite frankly I was surprised he did.
Albany grad transfer Joe Cremo told ESPN that Chris Holtmann, Greg McDermott, Shaka Smart, Pat Chambers and Steve Wojciechowski will also be visiting him in Albany the next few days.
@Kcmatt7 KK trolls him so hard every time.
@kjayhawks LOL. He gave a B because he is a raging MUtard. Also I know you were joking about ESPN but he is retired and I don't think he would come back even for a national job like that.
@Buster-1926 Mawdo Sallah already run off. He wasn't a contributor though.
@Blown Full up (13) on scholarships as of right now. Vick should leave though, thus room for Romeo. There is room for Romeo either way though. :pick:
@jayballer73 Someone always has to be identified as the main challenger to KU for some reason. I mean of all the teams next year, KSU probably does pose the biggest threat which...yeah just lock up the title now. Bruce isn't taking it.
Fun fact: Dean Wade the purple savior is 0-7 against KU. Not counting the last Big 12 tournament game where he did not play.
Not sure how KSU fans could get their hopes up at this point.
@Kcmatt7 The other thing is, if they had a great year and were seeded highly, they'd get the same treatment. Which they fail to grasp.
Much ado about nothing, imo.
jayballer73 said:
@Statmachine Surprise - - Surprise - - -hmm who seen that coming LOL - - well there is step 1 - Next LaGerald? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Vick won't be here next season one way or another.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BShark I like Malik, a lot! Gonna miss him. I hate this time of year.
I would have loved him back as much as anyone but this is the correct decision for him and was, like I said, the worst kept secret in Lawrence.
Statmachine said:
BREAKING: #KUbball guard Malik Newman will enter the NBA Draft and plans to hire an agent...
Vick will soon follow.
I don't have to self ban, as expected.
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2018/apr/04/kansas-guard-malik-newman-enter-nba-draft/ ↗
@Crimsonorblue22 Just retired. :p
chriz said:
He gave us a B. I always assumed his Jack Smack shenanigans were just for TV. But this was on 810 with Kietzman. Even Kietzman implied he was delusional.
So it's confirmed: Jack Harry is delusional.
Obligitory links
It's that time of year again.
https://www.thetournament.com/ ↗
Usually there is a team with former KU guys on it.
Kcmatt7 said:
We basically always play in our own backyard up to the FF,
This destroys the minds of KSU and WSU fans btw.
Unlocked. I don't want to disable discussions, let's just try to keep personal insults out of it please.
https://247sports.com/Player/Eric-Dixon-45572931 ↗
Will be committing to Nova soon. This is what we were talking about with Nova. Taking a top 100-ish 6'6'' center early. I'm sure he will redshirt and be a PITA as a JR/SR.
CJ Jones and Darious Hall leaving Arkansas. Neither moves the needle much.
Their class is decent. To me Marsha is like Huggins at this point. I trust that the low ranked guys they get can play better than most think.
Bossi came on a local radio show and predicted Indiana for Langford but also mentioned that Romeo's dad believes that Romeo "needs Self's coaching".
@JayHawkFanToo But when UK had a bunch of players drafted that was the best day in UK basketball history according to Cal.
Thread locked at the request of posters.
BeddieKU23 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Cal getting desperate lol.
I think I've read Cal has never returned his leading scorer since coaching Kentucky. I don't know what to believe but there are some UK people believing he's coming back..
Drugged by Cal.
@Kcmatt7 Rough by UK standards I suppose. Still a lot of talent. Post situation won't change a ton either way.
@justanotherfan He shot well enough in HS from mid-range. I think he can get his 3pt% up to about 33-34% which is livable.
@Kcmatt7 Yeah, the 18 class is pretty bad. Looks like he really won't take a big this class so it will be interesting to see who goes and stays.
Kcmatt7 said:
@BShark I actually do think Charlie will be better than you are giving him credit for. He is better than Tharpe ever was, and that is my bar for backup PGs lol.
I think he's fine as a back-up guard (1 or 2). I actually think he is pretty comparable to Tharpe and Nic Moore. Hopefully more to the Nic side.
I don't think KU is in a good spot though if he is ever starting and/or "gobbling up minutes".