Said he wants to come back to KU as an assistant coach. Well Bill shall we?
BeddieKU23
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Cowerd, if he takes a visit anywhere could be telling to his destination according to Joe Tipton. He may already have a team in mind. We shall see. Also going through the draft process. His injury that he suffered early in the season sounded significant and reportedly was a 6 month recovery from November when he got injured. I'd like to say I'm not concerned about a dude coming off a major injury but then again we already got a few of them on the roster and you really can't be fooling around with getting another guy that might not be healthy when he gets here
Ewin committed to Arkansas.
Cowerd down to 5 including KU, if he comes back to college
So yeah. #1 player in the 26 class SF Tyran Stokes is visiting KU this weekend. He's heavily considering a reclass to 25 class.
@MR11 said in The portal.:
@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
If he was healthy there would be more to talk about with him. Unfortunately, he came to KU early from the HS ranks still recovering from a major ankle injury, never got cleared during the semester and now has had surgery recently which is going to put him out another few months. So, we are talking about a player that has missed now at least 1 full calendar year of playing basketball and will be out until early summer. I think it’s just wise to say until he can actually play that nobody has any idea, not even the coaches. You’d hope he could be a serviceable 3rd/4th big next season but even that seems like a stretch. I’m not sure he’ll be a focus for the upcoming year. TBD I guess.
Yeah fair assessment and very well could be the case. Even if Tiller is the 2nd big on the roster I can see wanting to have a good rotation option behind him as Flory can be foul prone and don't want to be left with just relying on Tiller.
I am hoping a backup 5 role is a reasonable expectation for him though so it allows us to put energy/NIL on shoring up our wing position over using a big chunk of that on a 3rd big.
I still think they need to get a legit backup big and then find another big body just to have as insurance purposes imo.
Cedric Coward- KU has made contact. One to monitor.
@MR11 said in The portal.:
@SlimShaddy54 does Tiller not qualify as a 2nd quality big? Know he is a freshman but seems like he could be a serviceable backup 5. Granted I don't know much about his game but his scouting reports all sound like a better fit for the 5 over a 4.
If he was healthy there would be more to talk about with him. Unfortunately, he came to KU early from the HS ranks still recovering from a major ankle injury, never got cleared during the semester and now has had surgery recently which is going to put him out another few months. So, we are talking about a player that has missed now at least 1 full calendar year of playing basketball and will be out until early summer. I think it's just wise to say until he can actually play that nobody has any idea, not even the coaches. You'd hope he could be a serviceable 3rd/4th big next season but even that seems like a stretch. I'm not sure he'll be a focus for the upcoming year. TBD I guess.
He's probably a college 5-man tbh. There's some skills there of a 4 but probably a ways off from that being utilized, if at all here.
Just wanted to mention for @wissox that Adam Miller in the portal again.. don't know how he has eligibility left. Might as well soak in that NIL one last time
Kevin Overton from Tech in. Thought he was a solid guard for them off the bench. Perhaps an option if we are still looking
Paul Mbiya is another name to watch. 20 yr old is looking at visits to KU and a couple others. 6'10 is a backup big target perhaps. Also declared for the draft
Went to a semi pro game in North Carolina last summer with my son and turf no dirt. Couldn't understand it myself but I guess that's just how it is places. At least the players and such were nice after the game let my son run the bases, take photos and such. He enjoyed it
Ewin was good for FSU but their fans complained of effort with him which you won't see in highlights but apparently was there in a lot of their losses. I wouldn't read so much into it based on how negative the situation was there overall.
Look they had a coach who was on his way out after a great career there and it took them 2 yrs too long to make a change.
Watkins was fantastic his JR yr and while he scored more this yr his efficiency dropped due to the above and having to carry such a big role. I think he's a very good Robin to someone's Batman and that's what I potentially like about him here but again no reason to care unless it heats up.
Just a different perspective from a FSU football fan that ends up lurking on their basketball program at times.
@BShark said in The portal.:
Kansas is also recruiting Jamir Watkins, per source @TYOHawk @BeddieKU23
Not getting my hopes up but he's a major ceiling raiser if we do get in this
Whoa, Xavian Lee visiting this weekend as being reported by Tipton
KU has been in contact with Duke Brennan.
Council visit now on for Monday
You definitely got me.
Wondering if they are awaiting for the Portal season to wind down. Would make some sense based on the volatility of this while the portal window is open
He is young and only played basketball in the States for a few years now. Just part of his growth that's to come.
Sounds like if the visit goes well for Council he will be a Jayhawk.
16% FT rate seems to be a real sweet spot for success for Self teams
Good video of how poorly we continue to guard the perimeter
Wouldn't be surprised if he averaged close to 3 or more blocks a game next yr.
We have to keep in mind having to basically pay Flory double what was perhaps expected has changed things. I still think it was the right decision but it's making it harder for KU to pursue certain players we thought might be attainable
Evans went to UNC for 1.5 milly
Allen should be the 14th guy as being reported by Swain currently
@Jhawk69 said in The portal.:
If we cannot afford a wing that is quite alarming, considering that we still need to fill about half of our scholarships
Yeah if we think we are getting the top available wings out there that are going to command top NIL that's probably not in the bingo cards after the Flory/White/Dawson decisions. If they do find a wing it's probably going to be someone that isn't in a bidding war and likely isn't a top end starter type.
I do hope they get a wing because they need one. Your not roster balancing if you don't.
It does sound like the next two bigger NIL spends will be a combo guard, if not Council then who knows and the backup big where there doesn't seem to be a clear target at the moment. Sounds like the pool of those types is even commanding starter level NIL from last year and now the price is double etc
@TYOHawk said in The portal.:
@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
Council visit confirmed on this weekend
6’4 and 6’5 guards in the backcourt who can attack and create in iso situations who can guard…
I get what Coach is going for…just need an athletic wing and a backup 5
Doesn't sound like we may be able to afford a top Wing at least from current info.. Sounds like Council and a backup 5 are the next focuses. We'll see, maybe they are still awaiting more portal entries or to see the fallout from the draft on what is out there.
Council visit confirmed on this weekend
Probably too expensive but Jamir Watkins come on down..
Finally!!!! Well deserved and earned
That will be Flory next year. Just needs some weight and seasoning
Quintance to Kentucky. Rumor is 3 million... Yikes
UK also landed Dioubate from Bama who would have been nice at the 4 spot..
UK so far is king of the portal on paper it looks
Diggy to Maryland, apparently got a nice payday
Yeah his game is nice however it doesn't sound like KU has made a dent in that recruitment, if they are. There's still a prevailing thought he's window dressing others just to drive price up to end at Nova with his coach. We shall see.
@BigBad said in NCAA Tournament Discussion:
Modern basketball in a nutshell. Down 2 in the bonus and you get nothing going to the basket. You attempt a half ass elevator screen to free up a 28’ three. Yes I know there were other options before that last one. But this modern chuck every 3 imaginable has just led to kids settling for bad long shots.
Perhaps a bad shot in the bigger picture but was it a bad shot for Sharp? Kid takes a lot of those kinds and hits them too. Play call wasn't great, but perhaps just better execution by the defense. Sharp doesn't get the shot off due to a great close out.
I'm warming up to him, I was hoping we'd get a playmaking combo guard that was solid from all 3 levels but obviously those are expensive and who knows what our budget looks like after having to pay Flory. If he could get above that 30% from 3 and be respected by defenses, then I'm fine with it because I think his value in a lot of other areas is a hit. I just can't go another season watching us having starters out there that are not 3 level threats in the 1-4 positions. It's going to take years to get over that I think. I know he's made 71 3's in two years but 26 and 29% is not going to cut it at this level.
I can definitely see the Garrett comp with Council. Good rebounding numbers, assists (2.3 ast/to rate), steals, career 77% at the line. Played a ton of minutes for the bonnies (37.1 per game).
A nice breakdown of a few players. Council I think is a floor raiser but not a ceiling raiser here. Still need an additional "star" type player to play with Peterson.
I am wondering if Council is a bit of a value play in regards to NIL, not sure of his market but perhaps getting him still allows the budget to throw big money at a star Wing and backup big.
@Kcmatt7 said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
@approxinfinity Just hard to say it was a big issue imo. The offense was bad (not surprising) and the defense when they had to get a stop was actually quite terrible. The defense I do think was a mirage all year. Part of that is Bill being a good coach.
I'm ready to play fast again. Defend. Two way players. I like the portal approach so far.
I really like the Melvin Council guy Bossi put up on the other board. Can run, can defend, and finishes at the rim super well.
Yeah seems like a decent defender as well. His shot is not great, film wise it looked like he could at least hit an open one at 30% clip or so.. Alarming was his ability to get into the lane with his athleticism and having such a low FT% rate. You'd expect someone who gets downhill to get to the line more. He also was like 31% on drives then end up in midrange shots. I'd like him as another rotation piece but not a starter. I really think we need another sure-fire dude that can complement Peterson. I did like his size, athleticism and quickness. Transitioned to PG spot and showed pretty decent ball skills and passing ability out of pick and roll. I guess he's a wildcard, he's got some traits that really fit here, some weaknesses that I don't think get any easier stepping up in competition level that are concerning enough to wonder about what role you ultimately would want him in.
Old friend tyon grant foster in the portal again. Crazy thing is he might have 2 more seasons with juco rules now
Pack to Oklahoma, phew.
K-St's Brandon Hausen in the portal. Really good shooter. Poor kitties
Swain reporting:
Starting Wing- KU will be patient here. RJ Luis and Darion Williams are potential targets until they are not currently.
Kyan Evans had a zoom call with KU, there is interest. His coach went to Minnesota but possibly playing closer to home could be in play (he's a KC native). Missouri, Iowa, Minnesota also involved.
Nigel Pack is another with confirmed interest but sounds like KU isn't pushing here at the moment.
As for bigs- Shawn Phillips from Arizona St for the backup big spot.
Also a new name Utah's Ezra Ausar
@Crimsonorblue22 said in FLORY FLORY FLORY FLORY FLORY:
@BeddieKU23 Diggy?
Think the main difference here is Wright was a starter and expected to be the face of the team next year while Coit was expected to be a role player next season if he stayed. I know Coit said to the media he planned to return but we don't know that he renegotiated a deal or anything to stay. Wright apparently was committed to staying, signed a new NIL deal, received payments on his new deal and then up and left.
@approxinfinity said in NCAA Tournament Discussion:
@tundrahok lol. I knew it was a fake the minute Scheyer showed any personality.
Your definitely in tune with Scheyer! You spot a rat a mile away
@Jhawk69 said in The portal.:
Now that JUCO players have 4 years of eligibility, should we consider looking into JUCO transfers more often?
Could be an option but perhaps it's best to look at Juco guys that have proven themselves moving up first. Coit is an example of that.
Told Baylor team he was returning and reupped NIL deal. Baylor didn't recruit other PG's. Now in portal and hearing a certain team lured him in.
Great Talent and was my favorite freshman from this year but I doubt we can afford him and our other needs. If what's out there is true about the events leading to his transfer, yikes. Nope
Just happy I'm not a Baylor fan. Robert Wright, wow. Now that's not a good look based on the info out there. Wright had said he was returning, apparently signed NIL paperwork for a new deal, got some of it and then is hitting the portal. Baylor apparently turned down some other prospects at his position due to him and now chaos. Baylor by my count does not have a scholarship player back from this years roster.