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KirkIsMyHinrich said:

HighEliteMajor said:

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Anyone else think we should play a 4-guard lineup tomorrow and put Garrett on Hurt? I'm very much in favor of this. Match-ups might look like:

Dotson - Jones

Moss - Stanley

Agbaji - Moore

Garrett - Hurt

Azubuike - Carey

That would put our best defender, Garrett on who I think will be Duke's best offensive player, Hurt. It would just make rotations for our defense easier in general, and it would probably make it easier for Doke to guard Carey. It would also give us another ball-handler on the court so that Dotson doesn't always have to bring the ball up against Jones, who is a very good on-ball defender.

You asked a question, it would appear. Thus, I gave my opinion related to the answer. While I did not say that you stated the 4/1 was best, your post does indicate that preference. Again, though, I didn't say that.

Not sure what you were looking for and now, as I think about it, I don't care.

It indicates that preference against Duke, not against every team we play or in general.

I'm glad you don't care. I do enjoy not having to read long-winded posts from a racist person.

Well, that's it. Cry yourself to sleep buttercup.

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Anyone else think we should play a 4-guard lineup tomorrow and put Garrett on Hurt? I'm very much in favor of this. Match-ups might look like:

Dotson - Jones

Moss - Stanley

Agbaji - Moore

Garrett - Hurt

Azubuike - Carey

That would put our best defender, Garrett on who I think will be Duke's best offensive player, Hurt. It would just make rotations for our defense easier in general, and it would probably make it easier for Doke to guard Carey. It would also give us another ball-handler on the court so that Dotson doesn't always have to bring the ball up against Jones, who is a very good on-ball defender.

You asked a question, it would appear. Thus, I gave my opinion related to the answer. An answer I strongly believe to be correct based on our personnel.

While I did not say that you stated the 4/1 was best tomorrow -- that goes to your reading comprehension point -- your post does indicate that preference quite clearly ("very much in favor". Again, though, I didn't say that. Work harder on your end.

Not sure what you were looking for and now, as I think about it, I don't care much. If you were trying to be jerk, you sure got there easily.

@KirkIsMyHinrich Our best lineup is absolutely NOT a four guard lineup. Our best lineup is a traditional 3 out, 2 in look. Self's hi/lo is the perfect fit. We just have to impose our will and stop saying we can't guard the 4. We can.

That doesn't mean we can't or won't play four guards. In fact, switching it up here and there is certainly reasonable.

But to impose our will, and not be imposed upon, it's 2 bigs all the way.

FarmerJayhawk said:

HighEliteMajor said:

I wouldn't crown the guy or Bill Self on this just yet. We wouldn't be in this neighborhood but for your predicament.

He went 9-19 overall and 1-5 from 3 against in his previous game against .... Pratt CC. He's had 7 turnovers in about 50 minutes of play this season. Of course, that's nitpicking and means nothing in reality. Doke looked bad vs. Ft. Hays and that doesn't mean much.

But the praise is just a case of premature coronation is all.

At this level I’m looking for tools and the ability to dominate lesser competition. He definitely has the tools. He’s starting to show he can dominate that level. Then you see what you have when he gets to campus.

Sure, makes sense, which is why in my opinion any praise of Self (or the player) now is wildly premature.

I wouldn't crown the guy or Bill Self on this just yet. We wouldn't be in this neighborhood but for your predicament.

He went 9-19 overall and 1-5 from 3 against in his previous game against .... Pratt CC. He's had 7 turnovers in about 50 minutes of play this season. Of course, that's nitpicking and means nothing in reality. Doke looked bad vs. Ft. Hays and that doesn't mean much.

But the praise is just a case of premature coronation is all.

... or missing last second shots.

kjayhawks said:

I agree with it but man it would stink for him if we get a postseason ban next year.

Ruling on penalties likely April. We appeal and appeals are usually done in 6 or so mos which would be before the 2021 tourney. Your concern about missing the 2021 tourney is a very real possibility.

In fact, with the current NOA, it seems like a certainly.

FarmerJayhawk said:

BShark said:

@FarmerJayhawk to be clear I meant the having sex with your underlings part and not the nudes leak part. I don't even remember the guy you referenced here.

Exactly. To me it’s more a people like to check out photos of a hot 30something Member than a 70 year old dude.

I do think if someone like Rep. Stefanik from NY (married to a KU grad) did the same thing the press would go thermonuclear over the GOP’s problem with morality.

I don’t think the press is explicitly out for GOP blood. I think they unconsciously find center-right people weird and think any transgression among “the other” is news while the same acts by a center-left person is business as usual. It’s not malicious, just tribal.

Sorry, it is entirely malicious.

jayballer73 said:

The one main concern right now that I see and not new. - - Doke's free throw shooting is going to cost us. - -Some where down the line, unless he can figure out a way to do better , he is basically taking himself out of the game in a hotly contested contest.

You know -- -and I know - - we all know if it's late in a game/crunch time Doke is in -- Coach is gonna have to yank him out or it is going to be classic hack Shaq. - -They made the statement that in practice he is hitting in the 60's close to 70 % - -well news flash these won't be practice. - Mercy I hope somehow this guy can get this figured out - They say well it's in his head - -well it's a new year,- - so should be new approach --

Anyways seen some things looks nice - -Braun looks like he is going to be helpful, - - more then I thought for this year - - -Silvio still looks a little rusty, got work to do on his shot - -BUT now it get's real.

Also I mean I understand why we play these games - -helping the smaller in-state Colleges with the pay out for playing - -But other then that -not just sure how much we gain from a game like this - -just pretty much a glorified scrimmage. - -Ha the play by play just said the one worry that has come out of these exhibitions has been? - - - -The free throw shooting by KU - - - 9-19 against Fort Hays State - - - 5-12 tonight 14-31 for the two - -got work to do - - - anyways roll on guys - -it's almost show time - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

We seem to have won half the battle. Garrett's shot looks competent. Much smoother. Some really good work by the staff there. Terrific work actually.

Doke, well, you're right.

Kcmatt7 said:

HighEliteMajor said:

@bskeet Right, "Trump attacks media, rants about claimed bias" OR "Trump champions impartial, fact based reporting"

We get 95% the former in the mainstream media, and 5% the latter.

This fake news is no different. Except that we all recognize this as "fake."

Snorts from laughter*

Yes, Trump is the champion of honesty and transparency.

I’m not a Trump defender. So not the point. He has been under constant attack from every mainstream media source except for one. The mainstream media as a left wing engine of propaganda creates most of the problems. If the faults, dishonesty, etc from both sides were treated the same way, we’d have a much different discourse right now. Hey that’s far from the case.

@bskeet Right, "Trump attacks media, rants about claimed bias" OR "Trump champions impartial, fact based reporting"

We get 95% the former in the mainstream media, and 5% the latter.

This fake news is no different. Except that we all recognize this as "fake."

@bskeet Your last comment, "This “Image and Likeness” rule is the tip of the iceberg. The NCAA needs to go through transformative change to become contemporary with its constituents.'

I'm sorry, it's just laughable. Constituents? This is all about the poor black athlete. That's it. Of course, without understanding how "help" will negatively impact.

But constituents? What, you and me? No, the athletes, of which nearly all of them are served greatly by the current NCAA rules. Not just Andrew Wiggins. But the rower, the golfer, the baseball player, the soccer player, all the women's sports, and all non-revenue (i.e. other than men's CBB and FB). You just operate as most do on an incorrect premise.

You asked, "Other than the sake of devil’s advocate, or unless you are their lawyer and you’re testing some arguments, why on Earth would you defend the NCAA’s definition of a booster?"

Because I think a more strict NCAA model is the best model. I think the basis of the rules is best for CBB. I think paying athletes is asinine.

But I also recognize, which perhaps you don't, that if you don't have such a definition, then you aren't casting a wide enough net as a rule making body to support what you intend to support.

To the point, if you have a third party doing your bidding, and you can't get in trouble for it, then why have a rule in the first place?

I also think Bill Self violating the rules and lying about it is horrible conduct. Some don't care about that.

The NCAA's rules aren't unfair. Their rules are very fair. The fact is the model has worked for, what, 80 years?

Everyone can despise the NCAA all they want. But look at what the NCAA has provided us. And look at what it provides athletes, schools, and the student population in general. But no, you won't look at that. It doesn't fit the anti-NCAA narrative. So if it doesn't fit that narrative, it gets ignored.

And the obvious and logical arguments in support of the NCAA get ignored. I'm getting pretty tired of typing them. THEY OWN THE FACILITIES, IT'S THEIR PRODUCT, THE ATHLETES ARE REPLACEABLE, THE ATHLETES DON'T OWN ANYTHING, THE ATHLETES AREN'T MARKETABLE WITHOUT THE NCAA PLATFORM -- it goes on and on. All conveniently ignored.

And now it will be really fun to see the NCAA write a rule. Good luck. How about shoecos just paying athletes then to go to schools for their "name, image, likeness." Again, we'll see the rule and it won't be enough. I've already seen ESPN crowing about whether the suggested rule change "goes far enough." I already said that. It will never end until CBB is a shell of it's former self.

The difference is -- and it's a big one. The left wing has moved to the deep, dark and anti-American pool of socialism. That threatens our nation. The left now is so far left of where Bill Clinton was it's not even recognizable. The right, conservatives, have clearly moderated on many issues but aren't moving further right of the Reagan standards. The left and right aren't comparable in that regard.

@BeddieKU23 Because we need to look at the bright side, I love the opportunities Moss’ absence presents. Braun and Wilson. I also like it when pressure is applied to presumptive starters like Agbaji to produce at a higher rate. Not saying we don’t need Moss, but I do question his relative value. We’ll see.

@kjayhawks Hammies seem to be three types — 10 days. Three weeks. Or six weeks. But all the injuries they sure do seem to be highly susceptible to becoming chronic vs other injuries.

@BShark What should really make one think is what the revenue was used for. It’s much different than goals of the left now. The discussions of public expenditures has changed more on the left in the last 10 years than the prior century. That’s the issue.

@FarmerJayhawk Ok, thanks. Yes, I am. I thought the social welfare economics reference was likely geared toward the government pressure.

But I agree, the NCAA making the decision on their own, is fine with me. However, it's a horribly bad decision.

@benshawks08 Kind of boring. Those horrible rich people. You know, those folks that actually pay salaries and keep our economy going? You speak ignorance. Actually, not really ignorance. But a purposeful disregard for the truth. It's what you folks do. You do understand --- maybe you don't -- that investing also includes putting money in a bank, right? That folks taking their money and simply depositing in a bank IS investment? That it capitalizes a lending institution? And don't really suggest you know, because you don't. I know. I see it. I deal with it. But I'm sure you teach your dishonesty to our children/your students. Pathetic really.

FarmerJayhawk said:

HighEliteMajor said:

Just remember the rule of unintended consequences and see me five years after this takes effect.

Will do. Remember welfare economics and see me five years after this takes effect.

I wish I knew where you were going with that. Free market? Gov't intervention? Redistribution?

I'll just say that how many times does government intervene, thinking it's helping, but in the end, it damages the situation? This isn't food safety.

"The steep average salary for the head coaches of men's teams at KU is heavily affected by men's basketball coach Bill Self, who, according to USA Today, made $4,954,877 in 2018, and Les Miles, who makes $2,775,000 a year as the football coach."

Right, the two sports that actually generate revenue. It's just comical the continuous deluge of alleged "news" mean to try to stir the pot.

Just remember the rule of unintended consequences and see me five years after this takes effect.

Marco said:

dylans said:

Blue counties, yeah that’s how I determine where the educated upstanding people live. No decent people in the red counties, just a bunch of backwards hicks that cling to their guns and Jesus...

Lol....! You caught that too? It is interesting how often times those that claim to be the most tolerant and open minded are in reality not.

You are right on point there. It is just amazing.

I about said, "can't we all just be purple here?" But then I thought about that. I prefer Red and Blue. RCJH

@Crimsonorblue22 They did not check into the car until after the accident. Self said right after the accident “They started doing the checking on the car and wanted to get a clearer picture of how some things were done and we couldn't get it cleared up,” Self said. “That's basically all there is to it.”

But I see your point in the context of my post related to the info in the article you cite. Meaning, my post had indicated it wasn't registered. I had read that it had not actually been registered before the accident.

@Crimsonorblue22 Yea, the 30 day permit tag. What's on your mind there?

That's a bit cryptic. Why did you make that suggestion?

@bskeet @tundrahok The booster definition is wide, but remember that the programs suffer very limited penalties if there is someone that is "rogue." It is actually quite easy to enforce. When there's a violation you penalize.

The big issues come when the programs know what is going on. So if I go and pay, say, Mitch Lighfoot, to get a real haircut. And I make sure he sees the right barber ever three or four weeks and I pay for it, Mitch will miss a few games and pay back the money. But if Self knows what's going on, that takes it to different level. Or if Townsend knows. Or if there is a clear policy that didn't get followed that could have provided the knowledge (like Preston registering his car), then that's real trouble too.

Remember, the penalties are geared to the crime. We've had players miss games and pay back money and the school suffers no penalty in various scenarios.

Don't get bogged down in the breadth. That's just to case a wide net. They have to.

But the clear category at issue - "Assisted or has been requested by university staff to assist in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes."

We asked, Adidas helped, we knew they helped, we were intertwined with their efforts. They paid players. The issue is, much like the getaway driver in the back robbery, are we just as guilty (hint: the getaway driver is just as guilty -- and that's why we are where we are).

Don't blame the rules. Blame the folks that violate the rules.

@kjayhawks The Sorenson comment made me chuckle. I saw Thornhill come up and drill a guy in the legs two yards short of the marker. Sorenson would have tried tackle high and been drug for the first down. He is just horrible.

But I don't think Hyde is "much better" than McCoy. I really do think McCoy is better and more versatile, such as catching the ball out of the backfield. The Texans use Duke Johnson for that. And I don't think McCoy should be cut or traded -- yet. But to your point. Reid should DEMAND that he carry the ball high and tight or he is done. Period. The first thing my younger son and I talked about when we saw McCoy carry the ball was how loose he was, swinging it around. You just can't have that. That changed the game last night. I'd be fine just going with the Williams boys and Thompson to be honest.

Kcmatt7 said:

BShark said:

Dave isn't going to rs because he isn't a five year guy. Fact of the matter is we have 3 centers on d and Mitch is a center on offense.

This.

And Silvio is athletic enough to guard a stretch 4 if he is engaged. I personally think the reason we can't guard the 3 is our system is just too help-oriented. It's a Bill philosophy thing more than being incapable of doing it.

Right on ... our help has put us out of position. Our help has been geared to defend inside working out. Our help has not funneled shots to the 8-18 foot range.

Our defense needs to be geared to defend two nearly co-equal threats — 1a dunk/layups, and 1b three pointer. We should encourage and help create two point jumpers for our opponents as the better alternative.

We haven’t been able to guard the three because we have not had a defensive philosophy that treats deep outside threats — the three pointer — on par with dunks/layups.

dylans said:

So why did Withey, Charlie Moore, Dedrick Lawson, KJ Lawson, every KU transfer in ever have to sit? The NCAA is a big freaking joke. No consistency, I don’t care what the rule is just enforce it evenly.

I think there is a great argument to be made that Moore should have sat two years.

How did teams survive all those years without a big with range? In 2012 we were a few buckets away from a national title. The game is the same. We just have to impose our will. Versus a 4/1 team, offensively, it's easy. Defensively, you have to play some zone. You have to. Playing man you have to sacrifice what you want to sacrifice. Protect the line and the hoop. What's in between is fair game.

And all Garrett has to do, really, is shoot well enough so his man will guard him on the line. That's it. When a player is under 33%, 1 out of 3, you then think about ignoring him.

@BeddieKU23 I totally dropped the ball not mentioning Mitch’s hair. It was the main reason I mentioned others’ hair — and then I got rushed/distracted by of all things, work, and forgot. But that is the worst hair. Easy.

@BeddieKU23 Great post. The biggest takeaways for me -

1. McCormack still has trouble hanging onto the ball.
2. Braun (Brown) has bad hair but is going to really be a contributor as a four year player. Seems an adequate ball handler in a pinch, and Self mentioned him first in the pregame as the next ball handler. His mom needs to wear a shirt, though, that is closer to her neck line.
3. Garrett has bad hair too. And the shot is different. Let's give it 10 games. I do disagree with @Bosthawk. Garrett's shot is incredibly important. Defenses can ignore Garrett at the line if he's shooting like last season. That hurts our entire offense. If he's at, say, 33%, it's much different. Garrett looked great overall but his ball handling will be interesting to see vs. high pressure.
4. Doke still has no touch at the line. And I agree with @Bosthawk on his assessment there. "Foul magnet" is an understatement. And boy, he was off his game.
5. Wilson has good hair. Looked pretty good to me. Like with everyone else, hard to gauge positive stuff vs. inferior opponents. But again, the hair was good. That travels.
6. Agbaji still has the making of being "the man" in crunch time. But his three point shooting bears watching. The perpetual world of low 30% is nowhere for a shooter to live. I think he's a stud.
7. DeSousa seemed off. It's why we have exhibitions. He seems like the streaky kind. Get the ball to him when he's got it going.

That’s Brown.

@BeddieKU23 I don't defer on Self's judgment, or most coaches. Here's why. Very few adapt to win. Most focus on their style, what they like to do, what they think is best. They don't look at their team, determine that team's best opportunity for success, and the tweak/modify their system to best adapt. Zone defense is a great example. Many coaches, like ours, just don't like zone D and rarely play it. To me, that's crazy. If you have a team whose skill set, personnel, etc. doesn't match what the coach wants to do, the coach needs to adapt. Lots of gray area, I know. I watched this team for years play Self's style, because that's how it had to be done, all the while ignoring better alternatives -- the three point shot. Now, amazingly, Self is convinced on the three point shot. That means his hard-headedness was not particularly prudent.

@drgnslayr You're right in how you see our D. Our three point defense is case in point. Self is an old school man to man defense teacher. I went into this in more detail a number of months back. But "old school" is treating the closest shot to the basket as the most dangerous. That "teaching" focuses on the player's relationship on the floor to the basket -- for spacing, help, hedging, etc. I know it's been adapted to the three point era to an extent, but I see a team that doesn't not fully appreciate the threat from three in its scheme. It doesn't treat the three ball as the second most dangerous threat (behind the lay-up/dunk).

@BeddieKU23 The strength of the team appears to be Dotson + the bigs. That's a winning formula. We can destroy 4/1 teams if we defend adequately and thus not permit 4/1 teams to force us to play 4/1.

I'm not a fan of four guards 20 minutes a game. Oh how things have changed with coach Self. Can't imagine those words, say, 5 years ago.

@Crimsonorblue22 Three guards, two bigs -- as opposed to four guards, one big. 3/2 zone, three guards out front, two bigs in back.

One wish for tonight. Only one wish.

Zone defense.

When it became apparent that our best lineup was 3/2, it was also apparent that there would be challenges guarding the 4/1 lineups with the straight up man D that Self loves to play. We had discussion about that a number of months ago.

At 3-2 zone, a mix of Doke, DeSousa, and McCormack in back, with our guards working to guard the perimeter seems like the be set option. The ball side big would help out to the line as well.

It's the only thing I really want to see tonight -- some zone defense.

Other than, finally, KU BB again.

**I broke down, bought Roku, and with the help of more competent family members, I am now all set up with ESPN+ on the Roku "device". Lucky me.

@Woodrow You're absolutely right. It would apply to every school, every shoeco that is relied upon to help in recruiting. I think Lawson's point was that KU is denying that Adidas is a booster, but then putting out something in writing suggesting that Adidas is a booster.

And Bill Self, who said he couldn't talk about the case, talked about the case.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2019/oct/23/ku-coach-bill-self-defends-texts-led-notice-allega/ ↗

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news-leader.com/amp/330877001 ↗

https://m.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2013/02/20/photos-top-twelve-craziest-meth-busts-in-missouri-the-meth-capital-of-the-us ↗

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.columbiatribune.com/news/20190213/study-ranks-missouri-1-in-meth-manufacturing%3ftemplate=ampart ↗

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.si.com/college-football/2016/01/26/maty-mauk-drugs-video-suspension-missouri-football-teammate ↗

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSTRE78J63F20110920 ↗

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/meth-again-a-dangerous-scourge-in-missouri/article_e19cd2cd-3f67-5182-b496-10c89b33790b.html ↗

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/missouri-couple-home-meth-lab-baby-tests-positive.amp ↗

https://www.ky3.com/content/news/Police-find-144-pounds-of-meth-at-Missouri-home-563229821.html ↗

@Woodrow He's not a D-1 level PG, for sure. Just an adequate extra ball handler from what I've seen. Will be interesting to see how he handles it. There are some guys that with the increased level of play, they too take it up a notch. But D-1 PG is a high, high stress position -- trying to dribble, protect the ball, deliver spot on passes, all while having some quick, freak athlete in your face. It's real. Probably the guy I'm most interested in seeing vs. competition.

I'm interested to see the next option after Garrett on the ball ... might be Braun.

@FarmerJayhawk ...and we don't want him spilling the beans on how much we ... er, Adidas .. paid him.

FarmerJayhawk said:

Kcmatt7 said:

Woodrow said:

@Kcmatt7 as has been said by multiple people KU basketball doesn’t need national exposure. They don’t need to play Mizzou. This game is going to do far more for Mizzou basketball then it does for Ku basketball. It will get ESPN game day talking about them giving them exposure that they would not have had without this game.

What does KU the program gain from this??

Mizzou sucks at basketball. So everyone saying it is better than playing XYZ school is it really? This isn’t going to bolster KU resume for the tournament.

I watch every single KU game so I am not going to circle this game. I look forward to playing Duke, UK, Villanova, Sparty, etc... will I watch the game sure like I said I watch all of them.

But what is the downside for KU?

The argument against this game from everyone is that it helps Mizzou.

How does it hurt KU?

We have to associate ourselves with the slavers again. Weakens our strength of schedule since we always play a better team than them at Sprint. It costs a lot of money to disinfect Allen Fieldhouse. And we have to associate ourselves with the slavers again. This is like going back to your desperate ex who ran over your dog and gave you the clap.

Don’t you know MU likes to claim Missouri was really anti-slavery? That the Tigers nickname came from a group abolitionists in or around Columbia — all 10 of them.

I heard MU’s AD say today that those KU crackers be shakin’ now with the border war coming back, or maybe I misunderstood?

My guess is MU fans at every bar in the state are estatic. Meth on the house!

Word is the state legislature in Missouri is disappointed because now they’ll have to actually pay to re-pave I-70 between KC and Columbia.

But the MU fans are wary. Worried that they have, once again, shot themselves in the foot, Stipo style. Or that a camera might catch another athlete in the act — you know, finger in nose, object excised, insert in mouth. What do you use to Chase that? Natty light? Ask Eustachy.

I hear some oppressed rich kid is going to go on a fake hunger strike to protest our appearance at Paige arena even if the cause is fictional. Find a professor to call for some “muscle” to protect him just in case.

One thing though. We know we will never be a game on the way to an MU final four. Over a century of incompetence assures us of that. But each day the coaches drive on Champions Drive. Like naming a street after Casper the friendly ghost. Fictional and lacking substance.

That 1964 indoor track championship remains the shining light for a self proclaimed softball school. And has been the shining light for now for over five decades. Quite an accomplishment to be sure.

MU fled to the SEC because they couldn’t spell BCS if you spotted them the B and the S. Though they’d recognize that scent. Just don’t mention the smell of oranges.

Bad opinions everywhere ...

I love the "opinions" that the rivalry doesn't do anything for us.

It is the one rivalry that I've been a part of as a fan, along with Royals/Yankees in the late 70s, that has bordered on hatred. With perspective, I don't really "hate" MU. I do "hate" them in the sports arena. Without perspective, as a kid, I felt that I really hated the Yankees (and MU at the time).

What does it do? It gets the blood flowing. It creates great enjoyment and great disappointment. That's being alive. And yes, we were all quite alive when we won that last game at AFH in 2012 vs. MU. And we were quite devastated when we lost in OT in 1997. I found myself during that 2017 scrimmage wanting to win that more than any other upcoming regular season game. Live and enjoy.

Something that was unjustly taken from us has been returned.

drgnslayr said:

Just my opinion, and everyone in here has the right to their opinions.... but I'm glad the rivalry is back!

Is it worth it? Do we gain from this?

Let me put it this way.... how many of you, regardless of what side you take, will circle the MU game every year?

Right... every single person in here will! It's a game that matters. Sports is so much about rivalries...

Well, some opinions are right and yours is right.

No law against wrong opinions though, thankfully .. at least not yet.

Finally. I guaranteed after the exhibition game that it was over and that the series would resume. The evidence was undeniable and clear.

This ends an embarrassing chapter of Bill Self driven butt-hurt. We played the part of the bitter and vindictive ex-wife. Not a flattering look. Read the utterly silly quote below. He says he knew the fans missed it. The players missed it. And he missed it. Yet one man deprived us of years of enjoying the rivalry. Just plain stupidity.

And the interest in the exhibition was "far greater than (he) envisioned it would be?" Good grief. What planet does he live on?

“Jeff and I discussed the idea of playing Missouri on many occasions, including speaking with other coaches here at KU, and we all felt the timing is right to renew the rivalry,” Kansas head coach Bill Self said. “Even though we haven’t played the last few years, I know it was something our players and fans missed, and so did I. The interest generated in the 2017 exhibition game was far greater than I envisioned it would be, which made it obvious to me that our fans were eager to see a Border Showdown matchup."

Of course, the cynical @Kcmatt7 may have the distasteful answer.

He bent over backward, and some might say in the end, he just bent over for Q. He gave him every opportunity. Too much opportunity. It's crazy, I was always whining about the quick hook back a few years ago. With Q, I was begging for it.

I agree with @Crimsonorblue22 about Q wanting to be the man. But as someone once said, to be the man, you gotta beat the man. He and Dotson aren't the same level.

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Scott city

Born in Hays.

Ah, the season has begun. Wouldn't be the same without it .. thanks @wrwlumpy.

Last I cheicked, Diallo was still in the NBA. So that's good. Let's just hope there are no (alleged) player votes.