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@jaybate-1.0

He is currently playing for the Erie BayHawks of the NBADL and doing reasonably well. Hopefully he gets a shot to play with the big boys in the NBA.

HEY GUYS • Dec 02, 2016 11:02 PM

@Texas-Hawk-10

Moving the mechanical equipment is a relatively simple procedure that is done all the time.

My math is not wrong. there are current;y 15 rows on each side or 30 total that account for 2,000+ seats, or roughly 66+ seats per row. adding 8 rows per side or 16 rows total of 66 seat each (same total width) adds 1,056 seat for a grand total of just over 3,000 seats.

Again planning ahead before dealing with the condition at hand is a worse business practice...ask Hillary how well it worked out for her; she thought she had the election won and it came back to bite her in the arse. Newsweek apparently printed 1M magazines with the cover "Madam President" before the election and had to recall the entire batch. The football team needs to show it can win at least 6 games before any work is done on the stadium and any other conference feels it is worth courting. There is a better chance of the Big 12 expanding than KU going to the B1G...in my opinion, of course and I could be wrong.

Big weekend in college hoops • Dec 02, 2016 09:37 PM

@Crimsonorblue22

I bet he get a standing ovation when he is introduced...

kENTUCKY/LOL • Dec 02, 2016 08:59 PM

@Kcmatt7

I have a lot of respect for Frank Martin. Even when his on court demeanor would indicate otherwise, he is one classy individual.

Big weekend in college hoops • Dec 02, 2016 08:55 PM

@Crimsonorblue22

...you get the entire package.

WHEN IN VENEZUELA.... • Dec 02, 2016 08:53 PM

@KUSTEVE

We have been living on borrowed money for way, way, way too long; sooner or later it will be time to pay the piper and then all hell will break loose.

WHEN IN VENEZUELA.... • Dec 02, 2016 08:49 PM

You should have seen Argentina when it had its hyper inflation period. The amount of money that would buy you a house, a couple of weeks later would only buy you a car and a week later it would maybe buy the tires for the car...this is what I call having big time problems.

HEY GUYS • Dec 02, 2016 08:38 PM

@Texas-Hawk-10

This is not correct. All the mechanical equipment is located East of the building between Horejsi and AFH and it can easily be moved and the arena expanded East to that location and seats added at the end and the sides also expanded. It can also expand to the West where the access road is ( it can be relocated to the north end) and seats added to the end and sides; both options would increase the capacity by 50% to 100%.. Finally, it can also be expanded to the south where the existing street is and expand the number of rows on both side above the existing; currently there seem to be about 15 rows of seats on each side, by adding and extra 8 rows on each side you are well over 3,000 capacity. Obviously these options would require modifications of the surrounding structures/roads.

Horejsi is just a big steel structure that can be easily raised and moved using hydraulic jacks, a fairly common procedure; I will guess that if an expansion is considered, one of the scenarios above will likely be selected....and yes, I am a Civil Engineer and I know it is doable.

Like I said, a good run in the NCAA might create enough interest to raise enough $ to fund the expansion without affecting whatever effort is in place to raise money to renovate/enlarge Memorial Stadium.

Looking at the Big 10 reminds me of all the pool players that paid for most of my beer in college, they were always looking to the leave for the next shot and missing the ball at hand; I always played the ball at hand and won the great majority of the time. We are in the Big 12 for the foreseeable future so let's deal with it now and worry about the Big 10 when the time comes. The Big 10 recently expanded to 14 teams and it is highly unlikely they will expand further and dilute payouts to the current programs. The only conference with more than 14 members is the ACC with 15 and Notre Dame does not compete in football but does it as an independent.

Does Racism Exist On The Court? • Dec 02, 2016 07:23 PM

IMHO, there is little if any racism in major college or pro sports when it comes to refereeing. Most of the bias we see in refereeing is based on the program/coach and the reputation of the player. More specifically. we all know that refs do give the benefit of the doubt to superstars and players ,such as Jordan and LeBron, got/get away with heck of a lot more than the average player. Same thing in major college basketball where the calls seem to be more program/coach related; we all know how coach rat face works the officials and gets the favorable favorable calls regardless of race. Wisconsin is a good example; it s the only major college basketball team I can think of that at times plays 5 white players, I cannot think of another major program other than the Ivy League and other minor leagues with a similar make up. If racism would exist in refereeing, then Wisconsin would have not gotten the shaft by the refs in the title game against Duke, a team with considerably more black players.

If you take any program in isolation, such as Duke, I am sure you can get some hints, but when you look at the sport as whole, it is hard to tell there is racism, considering the all the major programs in the major sports (football and basketball) have a large component of minorities and there is way too much scrutiny and exposure for it to happen.

HEY GUYS • Dec 02, 2016 12:45 PM

@mayjay

The scheduled times of JuCo games should not be that complicated to change...with some compensation, of course. KU's men's basketball
game, on the other hand, is on national TV on ESPN and changing the time would affect the entire ESPN schedule for that day that was set up months ago...not doable.

Indiana Is Trying to Sabotage KU's RPI • Dec 02, 2016 03:44 AM

@Crimsonorblue22

The magic moved to Chicago, now all they have left is smoke and mirrors.😎

HEY GUYS • Dec 02, 2016 03:36 AM

@Texas-Hawk-10

The cost of enlarging Horejsi is very minor compared to upgrading the stadium. Like I indicated, a deep run in the tournament would allow the expansion to pay itself, as long as the program stays successful. The increased income from, say an additional 1,500 seats, would easily pay a bond issue in 10 years, but I think the money could be raised without the need of a bond and with no negative effect on the fund raising for the stadium.

HEY GUYS • Dec 02, 2016 03:20 AM

@kjayhawks

I am surprised they did not check with Johnson County Community College, their gym hold 3,500 and has held numerous national tournaments in various disciplines...less than 30 minutes from the KU campus.

HEY GUYS • Dec 01, 2016 07:02 PM

@mayjay

Tickets for the Texas game were going for well over $100 although they are usually a lot less. Obviously no one advocating building AFH 2; however increasing the capacity to 3,000-4,000 can be done by enlarging the current facility. I looked at the satellite images of Horesji and I believe it is doable. The original facility was built for $3.8M and I would think the mods can be made for around $2M which with another deep run can be easily raised...I would think...

Does Racism Exist On The Court? • Dec 01, 2016 06:55 PM

@justanotherfan

I agree with you. BTW, the NBA now reviews flops and player get fined for obvious flops; it has cut down flopping quite a bit.

Who gets an interview first? • Dec 01, 2016 06:51 PM

Let's face it, with its current status, KU is unlikely to attract successful, top shelf talent, regardless of how much we think about it; plenty of more successful and more attractive programs out there. KU's best bet is to find an up and coming younger coach, a diamond in the rough as it were, willing to work his way up and make a name for himself and use KU as a springboard to bigger and better positions. Does anyone really believe that a coach that took a team to the national championship is going to take an assistant coach position at KU? I certainly don't...but I could be wrong...

OK yes I know but/ recruiting • Dec 01, 2016 06:25 PM

@BShark

Shaka has had plenty of talent at Texas and so far has nothing to show for it and some pretty embarrassing losses to boot; how long before it starts hurting recruiting? I am sure...what's his name...wishes he was playing at KU.😄

Kaepernick on Castro • Dec 01, 2016 04:53 PM

@mayjay

He also could have been laying the groundwork to blame politics instead of field performance for his probable release/trade. Remember that when he stared this circus act he had been replaced as starter by a QB that many consider a bust.

HEY GUYS • Dec 01, 2016 04:42 PM

@dylans

Once again...

KU made a bid along with many other programs to host tournament games. The NCAA has requirements for the venues that will host the games; early round games can be played pretty much anywhere but the regionals have a 3,000 minimum capacity and the court must be available at certain times for practice and so the teams acclimate to the venue. Horenjsi worked fine for the early games but did not meet the requirements for the regionals, so, a different venue was required.

KU is hosting Nebraska that day at AFH and the game is nationally televised and was contracted well in advance and cannot be changed.

KU checked the convention Center in Topeka, where they played before, but it was booked and not available. They also checked Municipal Auditorium and Sprint Center in Kansas City and both were booked and unavailable. By NCAA rule, if KU could not provide a venue, like in this case, the games are played at the venue provided by the next lower seed in the region, in this case Texas.

If KU was seeded #4 instead of #5, we would have the exact same situation where the regionals would have been played at the venue provided by the next lower seed which would have been Texas. KU does not get to pick a neutral venue, it must follow the rules that are in place. If KU would have been able to find a venue that would meet the NCAA requirements, it would have been different but since it could not, it ended up being a moot point, right?

A few weeks ago, before the Texas game, I mentioned that KU needed to start thinking about building a volleyball venue with a 3,000 to 5,000 capacity and it was taken by some posters as blasphemy, look it up. It seems that a larger facility will now be considered in view of the success of the program. The advantage of a small venue disappeares when you cannot play NCAA regional games there, wouldn't you agree?

Again, I have nothing against the volleyball program; in fact, it is my favorite program after men's basketball and I have mentioned this before and long before it became popular. I understand that the team would have preferred to be seeded higher and I would have too, but in this particular case it turned out to be irrelevant.

Now, back to basketball.

Kaepernick on Castro • Dec 01, 2016 11:45 AM

@justanotherfan

Owners, GMs and coaches do not like players that create news for the wrong reasons and become cancers in the locker room...unless they are great on the field. Kaepernick is there and he is now average at best on the field and if he gets cut, the opportunities will be few and far in between.

HEY GUYS • Dec 01, 2016 11:00 AM

@dylans

Read my reply to @Crimsonorblue22. If KU was ranked #4 the game would have been played at Texas anyway since KU could not find a location that met NCAA guidelines.

HEY GUYS • Dec 01, 2016 10:57 AM

@Crimsonorblue22

As a matter if fact I did play sports including varsity in college. The point I was making and that apparently got lost in the translation is that KU could not find a facility available for the regional in case they were given the overall #4 seed and they even checked as far as Topeka and Kansas City; by the way AFH was booked on that day for the KU-Nebraska basketball game. According to what I have read, if a team cannot provide a venue, then the games area played at the venue of the next lower seed, which would have been...Texas and we would have ended up in the exact same situation, hence the "moot" comment.

Remember last NCCA tournament? KU a #1 seed was sent to Lexington, Kentucky...of all places...instead of Chicago. It happens all the time, even to big time programs like KU basketball.

HEY GUYS • Nov 30, 2016 06:38 PM

@dylans

Even if KU was the overall #4 seed, it could not have been able to play the regional at Horejsi since it does not meet the NCAA guidelines. KU looked at Topeka Convention Center, Municipal Auditorium and Sprint Center in KC and they were all booked as was AFH. The only way to play at AFH was to get a special variance from the NCAA to change game and practice times. If KU was the #4 seed and advanced, it would most likely have had to play at the locations of the next lower seed in its bracket anyway, so all of this is really moot.

HEY GUYS • Nov 30, 2016 04:01 AM

@Crimsonorblue22

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KU vs LBSU • Nov 30, 2016 03:41 AM

@approxinfinity

The check cleared so the refs will not be calling anything on Duke...

KU vs LBSU • Nov 30, 2016 03:38 AM

Duke-MSU is on ESPN right now...38-38 beginning of second half.

HEY GUYS • Nov 30, 2016 03:33 AM

@Crimsonorblue22

Be very careful with mice; they will chew wiring like there is no tomorrow and they can get through the smallest openings.

HEY GUYS • Nov 30, 2016 03:00 AM

@mayjay

You gotta love @Crimsonorblue22, no body loves KU more than she does...she is also the de-facto forum mom that keeps us all unruly kids in line.❤️💙

KU vs LBSU • Nov 30, 2016 02:45 AM

If you are going to draw fouls you have to make the Fts...

KU vs LBSU • Nov 30, 2016 02:40 AM

Just joined in...is KU hitting on all cylinders or what?

HEY GUYS • Nov 30, 2016 12:57 AM

@Crimsonorblue22

I have no doubt that the team was disappointed by the seeding but it was based on RPI and SOS; Texas was #2 and KU was #6.

"There’s more that goes into it, though. KU coach Ray Bechard admitted that he’d spent a lot of time trying to pick out strong nonconference foes to help his team’s RPI, and many of those squads didn’t perform as expected."

As a result, the last RPI posted on NCAA.com had Texas second and KU sixth.

Unfortunately, KU's opponents did not perform overall as well as Texas; nothing anyone can do about it.

As you know, programs schedule opponents with an eye on the RPI. KU Basketball, according to HC Self, has one of the best schedulers in the business in projecting where teams will be and scheduling accordingly; consequently KU always end up with a very high SOS and a a good RPI resulting from winning most of those games. Look at it this way, the season before last KU and ISU split in men's basketball in the regular season and ISU beat KU in the Conference tournament and won the title; however, KU had a #2 seed and ISU a #3 since KU had the better RPI. Like I said, it happens all the time and sometimes you benefit from it and some times you don't..

Would I have liked to see KU as the #4 seed? abso-frigging-lutely YES. Do I feel KU got shafted by the NCAA? Emotions would lead me to say yes, but the numbers and logic -in my opinion- would seem to indicate no.

@wrwlumpy

...you mean other than they still suck and they only showed up when they played KU because it is as close as they got to the NCAA and now they don't even have that? JK.

HEY GUYS • Nov 29, 2016 09:26 PM

@Crimsonorblue22 @kjayhawks

Like I said, the best way to prove them wrong is to win. Remember the 2007 NCAA when #1 ranked KU had to plat #2 UCLA in their backyard? or 1988 when KU got to play the Final Four in Kansas City? It happens all the time, in all sports; KU basketball is shafted location-wise by the NCAA on a yearly basis and it sucks but it deals with it.

Kansas head coach Ray Bechard

On not being a top-four seed:
"You split hairs between the fourth and fifth seed, probably, but let's really rejoice in being the highest seed in Kansas volleyball history: a five seed. With the type of regular season we have had, hopefully we can keep that momentum going into a really strong NCAA tournament."

BTW, i could not find a link that indicates that KU was seeded #5 instead of #4 because of its small arena; maybe someone can provide a link?

In any case, I mentioned before that KU should be playing some games at AFH and I was told by several posters that Horejsi Family Athletics Center represented a distinctive advantage for KU...well, apparently playing in a small arena does have advantages but it also does have some consequences. I am a big fan of the Volleyball team and I hope they kick butt in the tournament; I have the procedure to by-pass the black out down path and I will be using it for men's basketball this evening and if needed for the volleyball games as well. I think this is a team of destiny and it will do juts fine wherever they play.

HEY GUYS • Nov 29, 2016 08:48 PM

@Crimsonorblue22

Do you think that the difference between the overall #4 and#5 is that big? I certainly don't. Best way to prove them wrong is...win baby win...

HEY GUYS • Nov 29, 2016 06:28 PM

Back to Volleyball...I understand that many fans feel that KU got...pick your own expression...but I really don't believe is that bad. Texas beat KU 3-1 in Austin and lost 3-2 in Lawrence, so slight edge to Texas. Texas lost to Defending Champion and #2 Nebraska and #3 Wisconsin and one bad loss to ISU. KU has one bad loss to Purdue.

In the rankings, KU was #4 and Texas #5, but these are rankings voted by the coaches and do not include things like strength of schedule or RPI. For the tournament, forum posters listed KU as a #5 seed which is misleading and perhaps the reason for the dissatisfaction; KU was not just a #5 seed but the "overall" #5 seed and simply switched places with Texas which the NCAA estimated had a tougher schedule. Being 1 position off the ranking does not seem too bad to me. Can anyone explain to me why this is so egregiously bad?

We see this all the time in basketball; in 2015 Wichita State, a team that had been at times in the top 10 and all season long in the top 20 got a #7 seed, which means it was somewhere between 25-28 overall, that is probably 10 spots lower than it should have been...did not work well for KU, BTW.

Danny Manning • Nov 29, 2016 06:08 PM

No question that Manning needs to start winning soon or his seat will get warmer. He is probably safe this season but if there are no tangible results after next season then his job would be in jeopardy.

@dylans

He is already aware of his fouls. In an after game interview he indicated that the was aware that his silly fouls were costing him valuable playing time and he has been doing a lot better lately. He seems to be a quick learner.

couple of amusing /interesting games • Nov 29, 2016 06:00 PM

@jayballer54

I saw the Brown-Bryant game in the news, pretty funny to outsiders but that kid will never live that down...ever.

If I Were In Charge At Misery • Nov 29, 2016 05:53 PM

@justanotherfan

I agree. Most college towns are usually very liberal, a result of natural youthful rebelliousness and liberal teachings that seem to have taken over academia; the political reaction was not necessarily unexpected but in the end pretty harmless.

The racial issues, on the other hand, are considerably more serious and with much direr consequences as it involved considerable physical damage and huge financial loses. What happened at MU was an extension of Ferguson, a situation that was escalated by professional agitators with no ties to the town itself. I know someone that is in the Missouri National Guard and the stories he tells about Ferguson makes you cringe and the worst was not even covered by the press. It really left the state with a bad image that it will take a long time to overcome. The extremely poor handling of the extension of that situation at MU made things that much worse and it will also take a long time to recover. There is no question that Pinkel's departure was due to a large extent to his handling of the football team position, something that the big donors saw as unacceptable; I understand that this health situation was publicly used as the reason for his departure but people close to the program tell a different story. I am glad it left for the SEC, the conference has its hands full with Baylor.

Protecting the Merchandise • Nov 29, 2016 05:33 PM

@BeddieKU23

Yep, agree.

Question • Nov 29, 2016 05:31 PM

@BShark

I respectfully disagree. I divide coaching into two areas, the actual on the court, X and Os coaching and the recruiting. This phenomenon is prevalent mostly in Division I college since recruiting is less important in the lower division and in the NBA, the General Manager has a lot more influence on who is part of the team than the coach.

Now, most elite programs have personnel that does the bulk of the recruiting and the HC is what we might consider the closer. Without the recruiting personnel doing the ground work and identifying prospects, the HC is not nearly as successful. KU has two outstanding recruiters in Roberts and Townsend and both have been selected as top recruiters by publication at various times; Snacks...not so much. Without these coaches, KU would not recruit nearly as successfully as it does; no question that Coach Self closing the deal goes a long, long way. No question that recruiting -wise KU has a big advantage over KSU.

As far as recruiting to Manhattan/KSU and Lawrence/KU not being that different, I just have to ask...have you been to Manhattan? First, no question that KU has a huge edge in history and tradition, second AFH is the Cathedral of Basketball and considerably better than the Octagon of Boredom; 16,000 Jayhawk fans will always be leaps and bound better than 12,000 KSU fans and the accommodations for basketball players are arguably the best in the country; huge advantage KU. Next, Manhattan is a nice country town literally in the middle of nowhere and with little appeal to elite prospects, the closest big town, if you can call it that. is Topeka which is one hour away and provides very little over Manhattan; as they say, how do you know when you are in Manhattan? When you smell it your are near, when you step on it...you are there. Lawrence, on the other hand is a more cosmopolitan town and basically a suburb of Kansas City, a real big city with a lot more appeal to elite prospects; from my home in Olathe it takes me roughly 20 minutes to downtown Lawrence...big edge to Lawrence over Manhattan.

I am not even going to address the coaches a we know KU has a gigantic advantage in that area as well.

This is of course just my opinion and I would like to know on what you base your premise that they are not that different.

Protecting the Merchandise • Nov 29, 2016 04:58 PM

@justanotherfan

I agree. Vick is really a SG bu I believe than in a pinch he can play PG reasonably well; he is a combo guard with little more SG than PG. In my opinion, he is more athletic than Releford or Woodberry and a better shooter than both of them; he has a chance to be a real great college player and he might be the best player next year. Obviously I am pretty high on Vick.

If I Were In Charge At Misery • Nov 29, 2016 12:11 PM

MU is in falling apart at the seams. What they thought would be a masterful move to the SEC has not turned out well at all. While they started being competitive in football, the program is now in a free fall with no end in sight. The basketball program they proudly announced would be the main competition to UK is now the punching bag.

The University as a whole is in full disarray after the demonstrations and demands lead the president to resign and it showed the inmates were in charge of the asylum. A drop of 3,000 new students that decided to go elsewhere resulted in a $40 million shortfall and the closing of 3 dorms, something unheard at similar institutions.

As Clint Eastwood would say...a cluster f**k.😄

Embiid and JJ? • Nov 29, 2016 11:36 AM

@ParisHawk

The Sixers gave been very good dealing with Embiid. Some teams would have bailed out after his second non-playing season but they stuck with him and the have brought him along slowly limiting his playing time until he is fully healed. There is no question that They consider Embiid their franchise player and Duke's Okafor and UK's Noel, both former #1 picks, are now considered expendable/tradeable.
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Protecting the Merchandise • Nov 29, 2016 11:07 AM

@justanotherfan

Chalmers was supposed to be KU's PG but he did not do well at that but was great as a SG and with RussRob at the point they made a great team. Of course he had to become a PG to play in the NBA and he did that reasonably well...maybe Malik will follow the same path.

Question • Nov 29, 2016 10:50 AM

@ralster

I agree with you on KSU. I gave seen a couple their games and they seem to be playing together a lot better than most teams this early in the season. I understand that their schedule to date has not been tough, except for the Maryland game, like you, I will wait until I see how they do against tougher competition.

Many posters seem to equate good coaching with good recruiting and consider Weber a poor coach because his subpar recruiting, I disagree with that, many also consider Calipari a poor coach, even when it comes to recruiting he is in a class all by himself, I also disagree with this. In my opinion, they are both good coaches, one a great recruiter at an elite program, the other a poor recruiter at a middling program. I understand that in today's environment a being good recruiter seems to trump coaching ability and obviously an elite program needs a coach that does both; however being a poor recruiter does not necessarily make you a poor coach and vice versa. By the same talk, Scott Drew is a well above average recruiter but a below average coach; other than KU and at times Texas, he has had the most talent in the conference and really not a lot to show for it.

So...we are not last? • Nov 28, 2016 05:18 AM

Apparently Baylor is last in the latest conference football power rankings...I am not sure I agree with it but I will take it.

link...

Embiid • Nov 28, 2016 03:20 AM

@mayjay

I agree.

Question • Nov 28, 2016 03:19 AM

@BShark

Obviously KU and KSU do not go after the same players so it would be unlikely that a KSU recruited player, with a couple of exceptions, would get playing time at KU.

Like I said, Weber is a good X and Os coach and he has done relatively well with what he had at hand. I agree that his recruiting is sub-par but recruiting to Manhattan cannot be easy.

Embiid • Nov 28, 2016 03:03 AM

@Crimsonorblue22

He is a pro player now and these players are his co-workers and some day even teammates. He needs to control his emotions or risk alienating players...and this is the last thing a pro player needs. Just my opinion.