Young will make some serious dough making commercial for hair club for men in the not so distance future.
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My Sling stream is 45 seconds behind, I can watch LiveStats and predict what will happen on the broadcast. :smile:
Lightfoot getting mugged in every rebound and no foul called.
Peaked too soon? They are playing themselves out of contention if the have not done so already.
Have you tried running the numbers for conference games only? The pre-conference numbers agains weaker competition always make stats look better.
Vegas says OU by 2. I say KU grinds it out and wins a mid 80s game by 3.
I bet the OU arena will be packed...
Oh boy...like Christmas in January.👍🍾
Well, Trae had a bad week and dropped to #12 and #11 in both polls...I meant to say OU dropped...:smiley_cat:
Excellent post. College basketball this year is unlike any other year insofar as there is no dominant team or teams. If I recall correctly, last Tuesday 6 ranked teams lost to 6 unranked teams; how often have we seen that before? This season we have seen the earliest when there were no undefeated teams.
There really is no question the Big 12 is the strongest conference, maybe it does not have teams in the top 5, but when 9 out of 10 teams are in the top 50 according to computer and other polls, the top to bottom strength is obvious.
You make excellent points that go to the meat of what I asked. I have seen Doke shoot FTs during warmups and he uses a decent form which would appear to indicate the staff has worked with him, but once the game starts, he reverts to that god awful and flawed form of his.
There are several areas where Doke’s game can be improved and I am sure the staff has looked at the return on investment and determined it is much higher improving other parts of his game. At this point, I would be happy if he could improve his rebounding; I watched the TCU - WVU game and made me wish we could rebound as well as those teams do.
I see lots of post indicating how and how often the coaching staff should be working withe Doke on his FTs.
Honest question: Do you really think the staff has not been working withe Doke on the FT issue? Do you really think it is that incompetent that would say forget FTs let's work on something else? Do you really think you know more than they do when it comes to Doke's issues at the FT line? do you really think they don't see the poke-a-Doke looming ahead as a serious strategy by opposing teams?
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The strength of the Big 12 is once again proving to be mediocrity. May the SEC Challenge and NCAA Tournament prove me wrong.
I guess you see it different than everybody else. Every story I have read in every publication and sports site has been talking about the strength of the Big 12 top to bottom. I have yet to see one that calls it mediocre.
I would make on comment on Mitch on his play after the TCU game. In the West Virginia game there were 3 things that stood out to me.
Momentum changing play of the game - Devonte steals the ball from Carter drives to the other end and completes the 3 point play drawing the 4th foul on Carter to make it a 7 point game with 8 minutes left in the game . The play rattles the veteran Carter who is not nearly as effective after that.
Most important 2 point of the game - Mitch dunks on Konate with 46 second in the game to make it a 3 point game making sure there is no room for a block - unless you stick your arm through the hoop - and completely deflates VWU who would not score again in the game.
Most quiet but solid stats of the game - Mitch, 11 minutes, 5 rebound including 3 ORs, 1 steal, 1 foul and 6 points.
Mitch did have a very solid but quiet game.
I agree. KSU did the best job by getting on his grill and switching, double teaming and isolating him off the screen. Garret can do the guarding with Graham and Newman switching off the screen, helping with the double team, forcing him to the sideline and isolating him there where he will be forced to either take a low parentage long 3 or forcing a poor pass. If KU can force him into 10+ turnover and keep him at or under his scoring average the odds of winning are good...although KU has this nasty habit of allowing one unheralded opposing player to have a career day.
Down by 10 with 10 seconds left and still fouling? Uncalled for...
Make that down by 9 and 4 seconds lef and still fouling? ...dick move...
WVU in full mugging mode and getting away with it. 10 point lead with 2 and a half minutes left.
I’ll take it.👍
Every other team saves its best shot for KU. This is the way it has been for a while now and the way it will be for the foreseeable future. The curse of being an elite team.
A loss by WVU tonight and a win at OU and the conference is KU’s to lose.
TCU up by 18 with just over 7 minutes left.
Doke is doing what most humans do when under stress, reverting to his confort zone which I am sure drives the coaching staff crazy.
Let’s be happy we are not UK ↗ with all that wasted talent.
Don’t fret, soon enough Coach Self will figure out a way to get him more involved offensively. He might guard Trae tomorrow and shut him down which is better than any offense he can contribute. KU has plenty of shooters/scorers but not enough defense.
Cunliffe averaged 25 mpg for a second tier ASU team and probably saw his time not increasing there. Unrealistic to think he would transfer to an elite program and expect equal or more time. No question that missing the fist part of the season where all the experimenting and tweaking is done hurt him, on the other hand, he was not particularly impressive in the Italian tour either.
As I understand it, after this season he will have completed one season of play (2 halves) and one of red shirt sitting (again, 2 halves) and used up 2 of the 5 calendar years, so he will have 3 years of eligibility and 3 calendar years...but I could be wrong.
It does get very confusing. This link ↗ lists him just like Moore who after this season will have 3 years of eligibility and 3 calendar years.
I am right there with you. In my case I also have a bias towards students staying 4 years in college and getting a degree in the process. :smiley_cat:
Playing at home though always changes everything.
I guess KU did not get the memo.:smiley:
Are we talking about the same player? Garret is 6’-5” and inch-for-inch perhaps the best rebounder on the team. Only Doke, Vick and Newman have better averages and they play a lot more minutes per game and Doke is half foot taller.
At the end of the season we will have 3 years left of eligibility and 3 calendar years to complete them. At the end of the season he will have been in college 2 years, so, if he graduates in 4 years, that is 2 years after the season, he will gave 1 year of eligibility and 1 calendar year left...like Coleby did
Charlie Moore was #55 on Rivals... ↗
Great write up on the FT technique; if the forum had a “sticky” option that is where your first post would go. I did not see a picture either.
I am sure the staff has worked extensively with a Udoka on his FT technique but I will guess that despite all that practice, at game time he goes back to what he has always done and with which he has a level of comfort. I will also guess that the staff has made a decision to concentrate on other parts of his game that he is subconsciously more open to follow than the free throws. I don’t expect to see a change and I hope it does not end up costing games. In close games KU migh end up shuffling him in for defense and out for offense.
Big Dave was selected to the McDonald All-American which selects the top 24 players so enough people in the know see something and believe he belongs there.
The class rankings give you an idea of the quality of players a team is getting based on play at a much lower level which sometimes does not necessarily projects to the higher level and by no means tells you the quality of the roster.
Fo example, Mason and Graham were not highly ranked out of HS and both turned out to be outstanding player with Mason beings selected as the POY las season. Compare those rankings with Alexander, Diallo and even Newman who definitely did not live up to their high rankings.
The other big shortcoming of class rankings is that they do not consider transfers. Dedrick would be consider a 5-Star, Moore who was a 4-Star out of HS and with 1 year of actual playing experience and one additional year training at KU would also be a 5-Star and even KJ might be one and all 3 of them will be part of the roster but not counted. I said it before that I would like to see an enhanced ranking where “all the incoming” players are considered and not just the ones out of HS.
Like other have mentioned, FT are a lot more predictable than other shots since the only variable is the player himself and, once his average has been established through enough attempts, the percentage tends to remain fairly constant (it is called regression to the mean) with the variation accounted by the standard deviation which, for a situation like this, would become narrower with a larger sample; 19 games give us a decent size sample.
My point was that although a 60% FT shooter can make 2 FTs, the odds are not as good as they would appear. Sending an 85% shooter to the line instead doubles the odds from 36% to 72%. Now Doke has made 2 FT in a row before but I would not count of him doing it more than roughly 25 out of 100 tries given his average of 50%. A made layup is the best shot and this is why teams prefer to foul rather than allow the layup.
Enough math for one day.:smiley:
I agree. ESPN has an agenda and so do many of its top announcers/analysts so it is difficult to take anything ESPN posts that is not strictly number seriously.
All 3 players have been getting decent playing time when healthy, Selden has started several games.
That is NOT what I said; I am just using plain statistics.
It is like flipping a perfectly balanced coin, the odds of getting head or tails is 50% every time and if you flip a coin 100 times you will get pretty close to a 50-50 distribution. Now, the odds of getting either side 2 times in a row is not 50% but 25% and the odds of getting either side 3 times in a rows is 12.5% and so on. This DOES NOT mean that you cannot or will not get one side 2 or 3 times in a row, only that the likelihood becomes smaller.
In comparison, a 70% shooter has a 49% chance of making both shots, an 80% shooter 64% chance and a 90% shooter and 81% chance. I would want Malik or Devonte at the line and not Doke or Garret.
Not quite. If a player is shooting 60% from the line, the chance of making BOTH shots is only 36%.
WSU, you are not in the MVC anymore, welcome to playing with the big boys.
No matter how you spin it, when you get the top 3 players of one class, inspite of what he will have returning, it makes you the top recruiter. FWIW, Calipari complains to the refs every bit as much as Coach K or Huggy do.
I see where the poke-a-Doke finally was used with success against KU and it will likely be used again; if the staff has been unable to fix his FT stroke, which is as bad as it gets, chances are it will no fix it this season. Now KU is in a catch 22, take Coke out and its best rim protector or risk empty posessions with Doke at the line.
KU’s margin of error is razor thin. It has yet to play a conference game at home where it built a comfortable lead and games will not get any easier moving forward, particularly now thT teams are figuring out its weaknesses. Luckily, KU seems to be playing better on the road but the schedule looks tough; a couple of weeks ago I would have penciled the game at Bramledge as a potential win, now not so much. Someone needs to resend the memo to the players about playing at AFH where it is not supposed to lose, least of all to Baylor.
@Fightsongwriter If you are referring to the inbound play by Baylor where the ball was thrown to the sideline and deflected by KU out of bounds, that was a really good play as it put Baylor on the KU side of the court with no time off the clock; I believe the announcer/analyst said the same thing.
Duke? You gotta be kidding...Duke? I have to say I did not see this coming. Now they have the top 3 players of the 2018 class and Coach K has officially replaced Calipari as THE top “recruiter” and maybe it will place a gigantic bull’s eye for the FBI to go poking around. I just hope our 3 recruits play much better than their recruits at the All Star game.
East Coast schools have a recruiting advantage just by virtue of geographical location. Other schools also have similar issues, we are jus more familiar with those close to home.
Perhaps the question should be, can you offer any proof that KU or its recruits have been unfairly targeted? Diallo had issues with transcripts and his handlers, Alexander admitted that his mother made a big mistake and sounds like Billy and family got greedy and withheld information from KU...how is the NCAA to blame for just doing its job?
I seriously doubt Coach Self would ever agree to anything even remotely close to what you mentioned; the truth would eventually come out and his credibility and reputation would be destroyed. I just don’t see it being feasible.
I agree with you 100%. It is easy to blame the NCAA because it is a convenient target that does not comment on issues such as this; as you know, I have always maintained that the NCAA just does the job it was tasked to do. At this time I am inclined to think that the Preston clan withheld critical information from KU and went into full CYA mode once the story broke and in the process cost KU a lot of time and effort and wasted valuable program resources. As a fan I am pi$$ed; I bet Acura has Self is livid.
P.zs. At least we are now caught up with scholarship for next year even if nobody leaves.
I pointed out that the process is like a trial where the defense presents its case based on the information submitted by the defendant which may or may not be true. I bet KU was pretty confident that it presented a good case and this is why Billy practiced and travelled with the team.
I will guess that early this week the NCAA showed KU evidence it did no have and this is why Coach Self stopped saying...any time now. I also thought that if he was not cleared by the start of classes which was last Tuesday, he likely would be gone and based on the timing of the signing appears to be correct and this is why I said I would be very surprised if he played this season at all.
This is one of those times I wish I had been wrong.
KU spent a shitload of money, I read $500K, that could have used for more worthwhile causes; I wish KU could recover the money. Maybe elite programs should band together and agree on a contract that prospects must sign that states that if they do not disclose conditions that would cause them to not qualify, they must reimburse the school for expenses incurred on his behalf and they can collect from future earnings. Preston and possee screwed KU big time.
I am a late night type of person; seldom go to bed before 4 AM and I do some browsing before going to sleep. Normally up by 8 or 9.
If you follow the links in the article on the first link you provided, the comparisons to LeBron are there and they talk about Clemson, SC, UNC and even Duke but not KU.