UConn is also under investigation by the NCAA, they just don’t learn.
JayHawkFanToo
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De Sousa is not ready for prime time, period. He needs a lot more practice, practice before he can be even somewhat effective on the court. I understand we all had high hopes but it will not happen anytime soon; with luck he can get some meaningful minutes by the end of conference play.
He really is not the rim finisher that Mason is, but then, very few are...:smile:
Humble pro athlete? You lost me at humble.
BTW, he had Wiggins traded before he even played one game for Cleveland. Short memory much?
Check this video ↗ of Doke shooting free throws.
In the previous game against OU, DeSousa played 1 minute and had 3 TOs and 1 PF; he needs a lot more practice before he can get more playing time.
I don’t agree. Teams always play League rivals tough. KU always gets the best game of the season from all the other Big 12 teams, likewise, UK tends to get the best of other SEC teams and just lost to South Carolina, a game it had no business losing and it also lost to Florida and Tennessee. Regardless of how bad ISU is, it will always give KU a tough game, particularly at Hilton, and so will KSU.
Florida and Tennessee are the #2 and #3 teams in the SEC while ISU and Baylor are the bottom 2 teams in the Big 12 so not necessarily unexpected. WVU, OU an TCU should have won. Disappointing show by the conference to say the least.
TCU should have won, OSU had several chances to win and could not score, two critical TOS by Young handed the game to Alabama. West Virginia desperately trying to give the game away with a little help from the refs; two of the fouls on Konate were pure BS, even Bilas took a time out from sucking up to UK to criticize the refs.
Lebron is a whiner and complainer that has frequently thrown teammates under the bus. As far as being more moral, I am not sure what that even means...like being more pregnant? We are all supposed to be moral, that is the standard, and either we are or we are not.
Kcmatt7 said:
@JayHawkFanToo Your hate for LeBron is perplexing.
Is that sarcasm or a true statement?
Kcmatt7 said:
Only thing keeping him out of the NBA is his attitude.
He would feel righ at home with LeBron.
Great first half, lackadaisical second half. Nice to see Garret score, Vick show up again, Newman continue with his solid play, Mitch still solid...but disappointed on how many times Devonte could not finish at the rim; he needs to talk to Mason and get advice on how to finish at the rim and draw the foul.
P.S. Svi-shhhhhh was great in the first half and Doke had a quiet but solid game.
KSU wins and Texas well ahead. OU in a deep hole.
Two bad turnovers by Young.
Probably more of nterest now that the teams have records than there would be at the beginning of the season when the potential is not known.
Chalmers missed the end of the 15-16 and the entire 16-17 season. Tough injury to recover.
I really appreciate the work you put in posting opponents’ pictures. I can only speak for myself but I would be OK if you just post the cheerleaders pictures and skip the rest. :smile:
P.S. ...and a few yell leader pics for @Crimsonorblue22 and the other females on the forum, of course. :smiley_cat:
Garret falls in the category of players that will not win you games but will not lose you games either. His defense is very good so it keeps him in the game; lots of other scorers to pick up the scoring load so his lack of scoring has not been critical...yet...
Nice win for Tech, they closed the game with a great run against a solid SC team. OU will bounce back in the second half. I don’t expect much from Drew or Smart and they don’t disappoint.
There are several KU related groups on Facebook.
They signed Esky just for you...:smile:
Good for Cain. He was a good player for the Royals but I am not sure worth that much and definitely more than the Royals wanted or could afford to pay.
I agree. Very few games and none recently when KU has been run in on all cylinders. Hopefully Coach Self can tune up the team and have running on all cylinders in the near future and definitely by post season.
Florida over Baylor
Iowa St over Tennessee - I would pick Tennessee but ISU is tough at home
KU over Texas A&M - Motivated KU team ready to show the loss at OU was not how the team rolls.
Tech over SC - Away game for the Tech. but they edge Martin’s team.
Texas over Ole Miss
K-St over Georgia
OU over Alabama
TCU over Vandy - Toss up game but I will give the edge to the frogs who are on a crusade to regain credibility.
Arkansas over Ok-St - Game is at Arkansas so they get the advantage.
WVU over Kentucky - No way, no how this UK team beats Huggy at home. I see the Wildcats being flustered by the press and WVU wins by a bunch. Most one sided game of this year’s challenge.
8-2 Big-12 best case, 6-4 worst case if ISU and TCU lose. Most likely outcome...Big 12 7-3.
Newman and Vick have been playing 180 degrees out of phase. When one is playing well the other isn’t, Vick is playing himself out of the draft and Newman is playing himself in.
Hopefully Coach Self cand get them both playing in sync since it would make the team that much better and increase the margins of error and, if this is the case, Devonte can get some rest and not have to play 40 minutes every game.
If they both play to their potential I can see both leaving. I am inclined to think that Malik will be gone regardless but Vick is a question mark. A senior Vick playing like we know he can would be a better option than any OAD.
At this point I doubt Udoka would be drafted. As much as he has progressed, his basketball IQ and understanding of the game still need a lot of work and one additional year of college would help fill the blanks; the scouts have seen enough of him to know he still is a work in progress. Diallo is a different story, scouts did no see enough if him to evaluate how green he was and a a result, eventhough he has done well in the G League, his playing time with the Pelicans has been minimal and I imagine he will be traded or released at the end of his contract. Unlike players like Arthur and Aldrich that have proven they can play and are kept as insurance, Diallo has not yet shown he can play at that level.
...and he was selected by the Celtics in the first round...
I was going to say the same thing. My teenager granddaughter and her friends favorite show.:smiley:
I saw the story on Facebook earlier and my first thought was...oh, oh, someone in the forum finally blew a gasket. :smiley:
Now, Vick does have the yips. :smile:
Any off-the-ball foul should be called exactly what it is, intentional, resulting in two shots and the ball.
The Big Dub was a very good FT shooter at 0.784, Withey 0.726, TRob went from 0.395 as a freshman, 0.510 as a sophomore to 0.682 in his Junior year.
I don't necessarily disagree with you. You know Coach Self personally and don't you think that he knew what he was doing knowing it could cost a game? It is not like suddenly Coach Self became completely incompetent, right?
I think you are all worrying too much. The next time a coach starts the poke-a-Doke, you will see a completely different strategy from Coach Self. Let them plan the full poke-a-Doke and be surprised. :smile:
The Sixers built their current team by tanking entire seasons. :smile:
Two of the great basketball bigs of all time, Wilt and Shaq, could not hit FTs and they booth have career averages of just over 0.500 with Wilt having one with 0.380; Bill Russell, another great big has a career average of 0.561. I personal;y think they developed mental blocks they were not able to overcome; obviously they excelled in other parts of the game.
Barkley has a career FT average of 0.735, not really that bad.
As you know. I am a fan of Lightfoot and even before the game, when discussion the poke-a-Doke, I wrote that at the end of close games Doke will have to come out when the team is on offense as much as possible and back in when in defense. It is just common sense with the available information.
Personally, I would have put Mitch in and kept Doke out the last 3 minutes of the game when it was clear what OU was doing..
Having said that and listening to Coach Self's explanation I can see where he is coming from and more importantly where he was hoping to achieve. To us, the loss is an inconvenience that prevents us from having bragging right at the office the next day but for Coach Self is just one move in game of chess in which he is a grand master and for which he is planning several moves ahead.
Coach Self might play dumb sometimes but we know that what he did last night was done on purpose and with an agenda in mind. We obviously don't have all the information on what goes on behind close doors but he does and he is thinking several moves ahead; we are fixating on one game and he is looking at the rest of the season and beyond.
I see lots of post that call for teaching Doke how to shoot free throws, even posting detailed instructions (great write up from @HighEliteMajor by the way), but really...do you all think that KU does not have a coach or several that know the technique inside out? Do you really think the staff has not worked with Doke in correcting his form? If they have not, then the entire lot, including Coach Self, should be fired for not doing their jobs. But I do not think this is the case.
I personally think there is more to it than we know. Sometimes the pre-shows show the shot around before the game and there are also photos posted in various sites and I seem to recall Doke shooting FTs with a somewhat decent form but somehow at game time he reverts to the crappy form we all have seen; he has actually made 2 in a row during a game so he is obviously capable. I will guess that up to this point, Doke has been a lot more receptive to improving and practicing his game moves and avoiding working on his FT shooting, perhaps because of a self erected mental block , and maybe this is a way of sending him a wake up call.
Remember a player name Wilt Chamberlain?... perhaps the best player ever and yet he could not shoot FTs and he tried all kinds of techniques and the highest season average he ever had was 0.613 and the lowest 0.38 and a career average of 0.511...sounds familiar? Wilt and more recently Shaq (career 0.527) had firm mental blocks about FTs that they never really overcame.
Most of us have played or watched basketball for many, many years, some of us older posters probably decades, so it is easier fo us to understand the game and all of its idiosyncrasies. Doke is relatively new to the sport and perhaps has not quite grasped all that is involved in the game. Athletic ability is one thing but basketball IQ is quite different; he obviously has the first but he is still working on the second. Have you ever tried to explain American football rules to someone that has not followed football before? Most of the time they look at you with a blank stare and say... why?...it does not make sense, but to us that are familiar with sport it is second nature and we don't even think about it.
Except for the elite programs, in HS there is not much strategy or fundamental being taught and a big player like Doke dominates without too much effort and, if he is lucky, he has a good coach that helps; most are part time coaches that also teach English and driver's ed and their coaching skills are limited. Coach Self has stated in the past that the staff spends the first part of the season weaning new players of all the and habit and defective techniques they acquired in High School
We all enjoy the luxury of watching one game at the time and openly criticize after the fact; the coaching staff has to look at the much larger picture and plan accordingly. Coach Self is no dummy and he took a calculated risk knowing the odds were not good but again, with a much larger picture in mind and with the intent of a much larger future reward.
That's is my story and I am sticking to it.:smiley:
I was going to say have the pep band learn the chicken dance and play it every time out while the cheerleaders dance on the floor but considering that rivals ...and Marshall tend to call KU Chicken Hawks it might not necessarily be a good idea...unless, instead of cheerleaders the yell leaders wear chicken costumes and do the dance in front of the OU bench...never mind
The way Newman and Vick have been playing lately, I can see Newman now having the better shot at the NBA.
Perry embraced the baldness and did not try to hide it. The question is...will Trae sport a comb over any time soon?
I could not believe they did that, extremely distasteful and the Conference should do something about it.
Interesting. Channel 5 in KC referred to the poke-a-Doke. Remember, you heard it here first. :smile:
And even after they showed it on the scoreboard screen the fans kept booing; pretty ignorant fans.
Mitch was having a real good game, only Newman and Svi had a better PER, only 2 players Mitch and Garret had a positive +/-. De Sousa, on the other hand had a miserable outing, 1 minute, 3 turnovers and 1 foul.
I posted earlier that Trae will be making commercials for the Hair Club for Men in the not too distant future.
I think there is a method to the madness of leaving Doke in. Coach Self is sending a Doke a message...I am going to leave you in so you better start hitting FTs like you do in practice. What else can it be?
Young getting the Michael Jordan treatment by the refs.
Gotta get Doke out of there...