Just get Jalen on campus with RJ.
I do think Iggy staying in the draft may have an impact. Nobody wants to go suck. And that UM roster looks pretty rough right now. 3 scholarships left and basically only two players worth a damn returning. Nothing else coming in. Not exactly an ideal situation to get yourself in.
Interesting... I absolute hate Boras, but there is a reason he is THE baseball agent. He takes care of his clients 99/100 times.
There is also talk of making international players go through the draft and getting rid of the International signing pool. Probably not a coincidence that it is getting talked about just as a Boras client does this and perfectly skates around the 6 years of club control rule that the players will be fighting against.
I sort of expect the next MLB CBA to be WILD. I could see a lockout and a truncated season tbh. Players do not like the current free agent system because it keeps guys from getting big pay days they would have seen 5 or 10 years ago.
I loved the White Walker battle episode. I'm shocked how many people thought it should go on for like 3 episodes and were super unsatisfied with the ending of that particular storyline.
I'm more upset that Arya basically didn't have another storyline afterwards and that was the climax of the character without many of us realizing it.
KUSTEVE said:
@Kcmatt7 I'm sure he indirectly manipulates the roster, but he never comes out and says you aren't welcome here. Not to 5 star recruits.
Well he directly manipulates the roster. And if Self doesn't want him back he won't be back. You can call it whatever you want. Recruited over. Manipulated the roster. Kicked out. Not welcome. Etc.
Results are the same.
Jaden McDaniels to Washington was a nice kick in the crotch to UK. Hope EJ leaves too. That'd be real nice.
KUSTEVE said:
@Marco If we didn't let Q come back, then every coach in America would tell a recruit..." If you go to KU, and you test the waters with the NBA, Coach Self won't take you back, even if you want to return". We would never get a Top 100 recruit again. That's a really questionable idea, imo. Maybe Q isn't as bad as you think. Perhaps he gets better...alot better by coming back.
This is simply not true. Bill kicks players out almost every season. And If Q was just testing the waters that’d be different. But what people have heard is that’s he’s gone, and told Self as much. I’m sure he’s free to return to KU, and ride the bench. I’m sure Self would be okay with that. But is Q?
Now did Self kick him out or did Q just not want to ride the bench if Q ends up transferring?
Because this is how it would get worded.
Dotson is an example of testing the waters. And I’m sure Self encourages it. And I’m sure he’s okay with a guy unexpectedly leaving because they got a first round grade. But the intent in declaring is what changes the entire scenario.
Cal literally runs guys out every season. Several guys said they wanted to return but Cal said the same. You can come back and ride the bench, stay pro, or transfer.
BeddieKU23 said:
Hopefully that doesn't impact Wilson.. but have a feeling it will. If he hires the Assistant definitely worried
Just get him on campus.
HighEliteMajor said:
@Kcmatt7 The narrative has been that Self has "had" to play Grimes because of his OAD status, thus not to impair his ability to lick the boots ... er, recruit such highly ranked guys in the future. Don't you think to reject Grimes' return would be suicide, not only with OAD fellows, but with the other guys that aspire to the NBA?
I would offer that, yes, we HAVE to take him back.
But to your position, are you thinking Self could strike a deal with him, one of those quiet, we all love each other deals, where we let him out of his scholarship and permit him to transfer without sitting a year?
Because I can't even imagine that Grimes' wants to come back, Self says no, and the backlash that would follow.
Am I missing anything?
It will never be worded as Self not letting him come back from a PR standpoint. But that would be the truth.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@Kcmatt7 you think grimes will at least go thru draft night?
Yes I do. I fully believe he will go through still. He has zero to lose in his mind. Either he gets drafted or he still has all options left if he goes undrafted.
@Marco I don't think it is Grimes' choice at this point. Self does not HAVE to let him come back.
I sort of expect Jalen and RJ to just stay in Lawrence.
@dylans I've heard a lot of crazy things about the first versions of the books.... Like GRRM is sort of a major perv and creep haha. But a hell of a writer.
I was very curious about the Emilia Clarke casting as well. But she did become the "fan favorite" for most women. She was an idol. Which is also why I think many people were pissed. They tried making it sound sexist and a bunch of PC bullshit that just wasn't true. Her going mad was painstakingly foreshadowed the entire series.
I do think I'll read the books this summer. But GRRM needs to get it goiing. He's 70, and doesn't exactly look like the beacon of health lol. I'd bet that the books unfortunately go unfinished and we are left only with the Series ending.
Hard to recruit guys to sit for two years. Believe what you want, but I'm telling you it is THE #1 most important factor. My little sister played D2 soccer instead of D1 soccer because she knew she'd get to start from day 1. My older sister transferred out of D1 softball to Community College after one semester because she wanted to play every single game. I was told by the 4 year colleges that I visited that I might not see the field, but the local CC was telling me I'd at least DH. So I went to CC first. (Before "retiring" and ending up in Lawrence).
Then consider this. A player like Grimes was never supposed to be a OAD when we first started recruiting him years ago. But then he blew up and others hyped him up outside of KU. You guys act like we just start recruiting guys 6 months out. But this is 2-3 years out where you're contacting most guys and seeing who is interested and then building that relationship. A guy could be 50th for the 2020 class right now and then explode this summer and end up 15th and have OAD expectations, but you've already built up the relationship for 2 years. Hard to all of a sudden tell them "you've actually gotten too good at basketball and we can't take you anymore."
@dylans Season 8 was definitely not up to par. Which sucks because obviously that's the last taste in everyone's mouths.
I think Endgame and Infinitiy War didn't see much criticism because they took the time (21 friggen movies) to get to that point. And they were all released at specific times in order to fill in gaps. The had the Universe laid out beforehand and followed the plan exactly (minus changing the Hulk's character).
I also think Endgame is harder to criticize. It's an action film. Game of Thrones was largely politics and VERY influenced by character development. Towards the end, they focused too much on battle scenes and not enough on content. I don't even really remember seeing much of the war that was going on the first several seasons and it was STILL a great show. So it is definitely safe to say they sort of lost their way at the end.
BShark said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
You think rj doesn't want d dot?
I don't think it's a huge issue. It's just both DD and Grimes can't return. I just think Dotson himself is leaning towards going. If he is going to get drafted in the first round he has to go. This is a super weak draft, it's his best chance.
@Kcmatt7 In that situation it's RJ, Garrett, Ochai, Wilson, McBride. I can see where you and I would be worried but adding Walker would be hard. He'd see RJ and Wilson as sure fire starters and Self LOVES Garrett and isn't far behind with Ochai.
If that's the case, good God RJ better be the next D-Rose.
@BShark What's the rotation in your mind rn?
BShark said:
Yes.
We need another guard still for next year though. I'd guess Kyree Walker ends up a Jayhawk too then if DD is gone.
@BShark Lol.
If DD goes, are we running RJ at PG?
I still fully expect Grimes to follow through on the draft.
However, with the new rule can't he return to school if he goes undrafted?
SPOILER ALERT
It was a great show. I was hopeful that Season 8 would be better, and remained positive through the entirety of it. But, overall I'm very disappointed in the ending. It was a fine wrap up but it needed another full season of development I think. Sounds like we might be on the same page.
On the bright side, I believe they are turning this into a full-on Universe and creating spin-offs already.
Of course, their biggest problem was their own success. The ballooning costs of production absolutely killed them from a creative standpoint. These past two seasons It wasn't just "write whatever you want.' It was "write whatever you want that fits within this budget." That to me is what really hurt them the most. It seems obvious that this caused them to avoid certain storylines for an episode just so you didn't have to pay two or three of the actors a million dollars a piece so you could fund the CGI for the battle scene instead.
Another issue that they also ran into was the books not being finished and them having to go "off-script." This lead to a framing issue for me. Jon and Dany were framed for 7 seasons as heroes and WAY more important than Bran. And then Bran is the one who ends up on the Throne. I need more of Bran's story. I need to know more of his "powers". I need to know what all he set in motion to make everything happen. I need to know why he set himself up to be king. And I'm afraid we may never get that closure.
Ultimately, the show was fantastic when all of the pieces were working together well. The writing, the editing, the shooting, the acting, etc. But logistics killed them in the end.
I'll probably rewatch it all again soon. We've watched the first 7 seasons now twice. But I'd like to take it all in consecutively and binge basically all of it in a two week span to really see how I feel about the 8th season.
@BeddieKU23 I just think we have a weird roster at the moment. We have those tweener guys that scare players away. You're not telling anyone they're starting over Ochai in 2020. McBride should scare some PGs. Braun is a 6'8 Wing player with a stroke. Garrett will be a Senior Wing player. Enaruna a guy plenty athletic to have a good Sophomore season at PF. Big Dave at C.
I guess I personally just don't see 5 starting spots to sell at the moment. I see a lot of competition.
BShark said:
Woodrow said:
BShark said:
Woodrow said:
Corey Evans tweeted that Jalen Wilson has scheduled his first visit, but it’s premium so I couldn’t see where. Anyone know ??
Kansas. May 30 through June 1.
Awesome.
Yep. Love that we are getting the first visit.
Thankfully the info was also posted by Evan on 24/7 in the VIP section of the KU board as I do not have Rivals premium but I don't mind 24/7 for the full site access. Just posting about this so people aren't wondering if I have Rivals premium. Always happy to share 24/7 stuff.
Edit: Found a free article as well posted recently: https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Jalen-Wilson-Kansas-North-Carolina-Visits-Top-50-prospect-132157106/ ↗
Looks like KU or UNC. Hopefully Self tells him he will play a lot here. UNC has a starting wing spot up for grabs.
I like that there is no time frame to commit, hopefully Self and co crush the visit.
Can finally sell a recruit PT and show them Grimes and bash Roy for not playing Little.
I do not know who would want to take Dotson in the first. He can’t shoot the NBA 3 yet and he will not finish at the NBA level like he did last season. He’s not a prolific passer.
I’d be shocked.
KUSTEVE said:
@BShark Question.... let's say we get Jalen and RJ. Then DD and Q decide to come back. Are we running with DD/RJ/Q/Jalen/Doke, or does Ochai start ahead of Q?
If all of that happens you run 4 guard and bring Jalen off of the bench. But I don't anticipate that happening.
I don't think they'd be sitting on it one way or the other. I don't see how that benefits anyone.
BeddieKU23 said:
There is 0% chance Precious and Lester went there for free. My friend knows their former coach in NJ.
Doesn't seem like Tucker was going anywhere for free either...
That Memphis squad seems like it has too many mouths to feed and a LOT of personality to deal with.
BeddieKU23 said:
Gorilla72 said:
Evan Daniels reporting on Twitter that Precious committed to Memphis a little after 11 am today.
Finally dodged a nightmare for once
Less than heartbroken about this one.
wissox said:
This is what pisses me off about KUBuckets. The other day someone said Grimes is gone, like it was a fact. I thought it was true. Now I'm reading here about Grimes could be back. Knock it off people! Stop acting like know it alls and stating your wild speculations as fact. I'm sure it happens at other sites, but I don't read other sites. This is where I get my KU news. I don't go wandering through social media and a zillion other sites like some of ya'll which is fine. But stop making these statements. If Grimes does come back he's the second player to come back that I've read on these pages, Doke being the other.
This post pisses me the F off.
If you don't appreciate people sharing the information they're hearing (often from good sources) than what is even the point of this board? Especially during the offseason.
They're posting this stuff for YOUR BENEFIT, NOT THEIRS. Very rarely is anything posted here "WILD SPECULATION."
This board is not tailored to you.
Coach Howard is Jalen's most recent Instagram follow...
I’d absolutely take a motivated and down to Earth Grimes back in a heart beat. As good as landing RJ imo.
Brandon Jennings went to Europe and basically said not to do it. I still am not sold on it happening without some record breaking $2M deal.
dylans said:
@Kcmatt7 I didn’t get one last year, but there are official KU sanctioned autograph men’s (and women’s) basketballs you can buy. I’m not sure where you get them online (used to be kustore.com; it’s changed), but you could pick them up at the allen field house gift shop.
You can, and the proceeds actually end up going to charity. Minus a small 10% markup on the cost of the ball.
The floor spacing in two years is going to be absurd.
He's going full on Mark Few but in a Power Conference. It's impressive as hell.
@HighEliteMajor No, the school is the one who does not and will not sell autographed balls or jerseys with names on the back. (I know this because I worked for the KU Store while I was in school).
Why are they not able to sell these items if they own the players' likeness?
HighEliteMajor said:
@Kcmatt7 First, start with my questions. That will lead you to the correct conclusion.
Second, no, your statement is completely wrong. Just like the incorrect rulings made by judges related to our president, that got overturned, one judge's ruling does not mean that the interpretation of the law is correct. The NCAA settled the case when it came to claimed damages (which amounted to a measly $7500 per player involved, or right in that ballpark). Then, the NCAA decided to just stop the video games altogether and just skip the appeal.
But the teeth of lawsuit involved the use of the likeness of former NCAA athletes, not current. Current ones were brought in, but that didn't have the same legal positioning.
The difference there is obvious. It was Sam Keller, and older Nebraska player and Ed O'Bannon, again a former player, that brought the suit.
The NCAA can absolutely create a contract that provides that the athlete sells his likeness to the NCAA. So no, your relatively simplistic response is incorrect. I can sell my likeness, and so can you.
And everyone should remember that the NCAA does use athletes likenesses all the time. Watch the TV commercial, look at the ads. And they use those likenesses all the time -- look at our videos before the games at AFH, or look at the lead in highlights from seasons and tournaments in the past (such as Chalmers shot, or Manning pumping his fists).
So, back to your statement, if the player can't sell his likeness, how does the NCAA use a players likeness now, and after they are out of the game?
Feel free to also explain why they can't sell a jersey with a name on the back or basketballs with autographs for profit.
HighEliteMajor said:
@drgnslayr Isn’t it in-American for a citizen to not be able to enter into a contract to sell his likeness?
They aren’t selling their likeness or else we’d still have NCAA video games.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Or Jalen or Barnes or Cunningham.
We will end up only getting the one guy we don’t want this class lol
Could you imagine? These young kids, making money off of their own likeness. THE MADNESS. Surely this would create an imbalance in D1 Sports.
It isn't like we ever see a major imbalance in Women's basketball, Men's lacrosse, Men's Hockey, Baseball, Women's Soccer, Men's Soccer, Softball, Volleyball, Rowing or Wrestling.
Pels should seriously try to get another Max contract guy in to come play. Holliday, Zion, Davis and another formidable player could actually be a decent team. And if you suck, you trade Davis before the deadline and still get a big haul because the reason to trade for him is to be able to offer him the biggest contract.
But they could legitimately end up with two transcendent athletes on the same team. They're really only one piece away from being good. I'd legitimately target Klay, Jimmy, Tobias or Deangelo Russell.
HighEliteMajor said:
If one cares about CBB, they would oppose such a reckless rule change.
Or all one cares about is the students who are playing the game above the product of college athletics. I could care less if a few less people watch college sports because they are mad a few more guys a season transferred. I do care that the players, who are the ones putting blood sweat and tears into this for 40+ hours a week, are given every freedom a normal person is given. They are the only ones limited by the system. Not other students. Not coaches. Not administrators. Not professors. Not referees. Not another single person involved.
And, to say that it would create complete chaos is simply untrue. Already, 40% of players transfer by the end of their sophomore year. If anything, this rule change would improve the game because we wouldn't have such a significant amount of talent sitting out each season.
If you can't get players to stay as a coach, maybe your program just sucks. Maybe your an asshole of a coach. Maybe you're a liar. Maybe you're just not a good coach and players think they can develop better somewhere else. Either way, if a coach needs "leverage" in order to keep players, than he probably sucks at his job. Hell, it's part of the reason someone like Mike Rice was able to get away with abusing players at Rutgers.
It's a dumb rule, and assuming it would create anymore chaos than exists isn't supported by anything in the real world. The average person with freedom to change jobs, literally whenever the feel like it, still stays at the same place for 4.6 years. Any logical person wouldn't transfer after their junior season because they would only be 30 credits from a degree and transferring would mean they'd have to go to school for another year without having it paid for by scholarship. So that eliminates a quarter of potential transfers.
I would LOVE to hear why you think it is so reckless to CBB though.
I feel like you'd have to be stupid to hire Pitino, but he's second favorite at the moment.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@Kcmatt7 think he'll take it?
I don't know, I'm sure there is a reason Vegas has him as the current favorite.
Chris Beard the Vegas favorite for the job...
jayballer73 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Silvio DID work out for the Jazz yesterday.
you blame him? - quite Frankly I sure don't
Just updates. Not saying or guessing anything one way or another.
Silvio DID work out for the Jazz yesterday.
Fwiw, Evan Daniels interview on CBS says he has been texting Wilson directly. The interview was from yesterday morning, but knowing that he has some direct contact makes me feel pretty good about him changing his pick last night...
BShark said:
@Kcmatt7 Hell no, just having some fun. All Memphis people seem to think it's KU though for whatever that is worth.
I thought maybe I was missing something lol.