@jaybate-1.0 Totally off topic but comparing coaching styles of Henry Iba and Larry Brown and Roy Williams, who do you think Coach Self took more from? And, wouldn't you also classify Self as being under the original coaching tree of Naismith and Phog allen via Larry Brown and Roy Williams?
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Dont know if anyone cares or not but Kobe tore his right rotator cuff. The specifics arent out yet but it could put him out the rest of this season. Feel bad for the guy, ya know? One of the Goat's ever and he has to maybe go out on yet another injury.
@drgnslayr Are you guys making a mascot for all 3 "petroshoeco" Nike, Adidas and UnderArmor? LOL! Thats funny Sh!!
@jaybate-1.0 ALL your points are very valid. I see the path too and it is nearing a legendary status. 11 in a row? Thats Coach Wooden type stuff there man. Even if KU does get bounced early in the tournament this year and it gets # 11. I say that is something to be extremely proud of. I think they can do it, even with a couple more eggs laid.
@benshawks08 Perry last years team was better this far into it. no question but it was from who he had around him. Wigs and Beed and Selden that made him better.
JoJO vs Traylor isnt even close
Jojo vs Cliff. two completely different bigs with their own set of strengths. I say draw.
@benshawks08 Agreed with your 1 thru 3. Mason over Tharpe, Selden is pretty much a draw but he has more experience this year, so slight edge to him this year, Wigs vs Oubre? Tough call for me to be honest. Wigs broke the freshmen scoring record, the single game scoring record and the free throws made/ attempted record if Im not mistaken. Although he had tendencies to not play well during stretches. We havent seen that disappearing act from Oubre since he has been starting. Dude's got the fastest feet and hands on the team and we haven't seen someone at KU so adept at picking the other teams pocket since Chalmers and RussRob. Oubre is tough as nails and that gives him the edge IMO.
@jaybate-1.0 Im still worried about WVU at their place, Texas at their place, OU will want some pay back and Kstate is no pushover.
@jaybate-1.0 Awesome post as usual dude. "Self can now put 4 credible trifectates on the floor at a moments notice." Since when have we had that many? And, one can argue that Self can put 5 down, no sweat.
@wissoxfan83 agreed Wissox. We may not even get to the sweet 16 this year but with our backcourt getting more experienced, Yah, Im thinking we bring another title back to Lawrence in the not too distant future.
@konkeyDong Im not totally sold on 300lbs either. I am sure that he did gain weight as evidenced by ummmm... his foot being broken and not being able to exercise! Oh and he had a death in the family too. That's a lot of stress on a guy. One of those alone would make anyones weight fluctuate, add another and its sure to be worse. No one here should worry about JoJo. he will be fine. If the management and trainers in Philly really care about their #3 pick, they will make sure he is at game weight and shape when he has to be, and not a minute sooner.
@KUSTEVE HA! Love the Grandpa Ray story! I'll be giggling about that all night ;0)
@Jesse-Newell Its awesome to see you post on here Jesse. Keep it coming! When you can of course.
@bskeet Oh yah, we will get payback in Lawrence. It will happen.
@jayhawk-007 One thing sticks out from last night. Cliff was out on the perimeter and couldn't keep Niang and Long from drilling three pointers right in his face.
@REHawk Didnt Graham have a couple TO's last night? I thought he did. That was his second game back, Im betting he will improve. I read an article on S.I. that said KU doesnt have a true PG. Thats a load of BULL. We have two very good PGs and they will be around for their senior seasons too! We get the right kind of chemistry going and the right circumstances present themselves and KU brings another trophy back to Lawrence before Mason and Devonte' are gone.
Consider this my premonition of the future.
@dylans Im not bagging on Coach Self for losing this game, I just think he could have gone small sooner than 2:30 left in the second half to make the game out come in our favor. We could have won that game, although as I said, i never expected us to win it from the tip.
And you are right Dylans, we are going to be even better next year. I am betting we get nearly everyone back next time and add a couple key players.
@HighEliteMajor Dude, fully that was exactly how I felt. Although your version is quite a bit more technical and eloquent. I KNEW we werent going to win this game. I knew it. I knew it would be close too. 5 point loss. I also know our guys are tough, no quit indeed.
What I didnt see coming was the ineffectiveness of our bigs beyond Perry, and the laziness of our defensive rotations. I thought our boys would have done better at that.
Are you going to call in to Hawk talk and press HCBS on the main issue at hand here? He is clearly a genius level coach but he needs to quit banging his head against the door to open it and turn the knob. He needs to let our offense loose. He needs to tailor his line ups and plan of attack based on the team he is facing instead of doggedly relying on Lucas and Traylor to be our best bigs.
Coach K on the other hand, I saw him scratch his normal game plan for the Louisville game by playing Zone defense and it worked! The guy just totally threw a curveball and made an on the fly adjustment and it worked, it worked out bigtime! HCBS needs to take a few pages from Coach K's book. Im not saying he needs to play zone D, what I am saying is he needs to be more flexible with how he schemes to beat the next team and the next one after.
@drgnslayr Do we have a guy that can go off for 30+ this game on this team like EJ or Wigs or Ben?
@KUSTEVE Seriously, I don't honestly envision a win for KU tonight. If KU can keep the game competitive to the last second, or even force OT and still come out with a loss, BUT our coaching staff shows they can adjust on the fly, then I think it bodes well for our season this year. If KU can come out of January at 6-2, I'll be happy. If KU can play to its strengths this game instead of doggedly feeding the post, and lose a close game, I'll be happy. If KU can shoot 18 3's instead of 12, I'll be happy. If KU can at least attempt to do what you all have outlined in here thus far, I'll be happy.
IF KU actually proves me wrong and Wins tonight? Gravy.
as an afterthought. Have we not seen KU play a game or two Outside In this season? Yes, we have right? What is Coach Self's normal tendency? Inside Out. The Okie state game was one ugly, feed the post game for KU. Maybe, just maybe Coach Self thought, " hey we have home court advantage and I already know how Ford's crew is gonna come out to play tonight. I believe we can throw a curve ball to the conference and fake them out by playing Inside Out this game and still come out with a W. Still protect our house. Then, the next game, which will be harder to win at Hilton, we will toss another curve ball and play the game the exact opposite. ISU will scheme to stop us playing Inside Out, but we'll go all Opposite Day on them."
I dunno if its sound reasoning or not but we must consider all options.
One last thought, to me, Basketball is a game of finesse and skill and beauty and toughness which creates a miriad of designs in offense and defensive schemes akin to that of the most priceless works of art in the Louvre. Thats why I love the game. Everything else just pales in comparison in my opinion.
This article by the master himself, Jay Bilas, is a glaring indictment of the NCAA Basketball powers that be. It also deftly touches on a theory by @jaybate-1.0. I'll keep my laymans opinion of college hoops out of this and let you guys see for yourself.
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After decades of hearing the football cognoscenti moan and complain about how a playoff would never work at the highest level of college football, despite the fact that all other levels of football (from high school to college to the NFL) have workable and popular playoff systems, the College Football Payoff -- I mean, Playoff -- was an incredible success.
Both on the field and on the balance sheets of NCAA members (who will simply be referred to hereafter as the NCAA -- remember, the NCAA office in Indianapolis is constantly telling us that the member schools ARE the NCAA), the CFP dominated the ratings and the national sports conversation, generating billions of "new" dollars into the already obscenely full coffers of the NCAA. It will also be the driving force in huge salary increases for coaches and administrators, whose pay has always been tied to the market rather than the NCAA's high-minded rhetoric. The CFP is significant change for crowning a champion in football, but it will also be a driving force in significant change across the college sports landscape.
The College Football Playoff will change our old ideas about the game, and it will help drive change in the way big-time football and basketball are administered. It might even drive change in the structure and size of Division I basketball.
A funny thing happened on the NCAA's road to the College Football Playoff: The NCAA's narrative about being able to pick the two best teams died a swift death, and the NCAA's core ideology was proven to be nothing more than mindless babble.
First, the idea that college football is somehow different than other sports, specifically college basketball, has been disproven. The football literati have always said that college football is compelling and people watch it because "every game counts." While a nice sentiment, it is -- and always has been -- total nonsense.
In the BCS era, by that standard, hardly any of the games truly counted. Once a team lost a game, or unquestionably after losing a second, it was effectively eliminated from contention for the BCS National Championship and none of its remaining games "counted," other than when it was playing teams still in contention. Loads of teams had no chance whatsoever to compete for a title even if they won all of their games. And, if people tune in to watch games that count, how do we explain the public consumption of so many meaningless bowl games? Since the CFP is set in early December, all bowl games outside of the CFP are nothing more than glorified exhibition games. Yet, people watch and consume the product in record numbers.
As it turns out, college football is just like college basketball. We have opinions on which teams are best and have the best chance to win, but we have no earthly idea what teams will actually win once they step onto the field. Ohio State provided significant evidence toward proving that fact, and it seems equally clear that other teams, if allowed the chance, could successfully compete in the playoff arena, just as they do in the Football Championship Subdivision and the NFL. In other words, if you think TCU had no chance to pull an upset and send one of the final four packing, you're wrong. Upsets would happen in football just as they happen in basketball. If the CFP goes to eight teams, which I believe it will someday, we will see teams seeded from 5 through 8 pull upsets. That is the way sports work. College football pretended to be different, but it was not, and is not.
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After years of excuses, a playoff in college football became a reality.
Those in charge of college sports made it seem like a CFP was completely impossible, a pipe dream that could and would never happen. They cited the bowl-game structure, the difficulty of finding television windows, competing with the NFL, concern for wear and tear on the players, and the prospect of missing school. All of those concerns were tidy little excuses, but nonsense. Adding an extra game was hardly a hardship, and it has led to billions of dollars and even more exposure and goodwill for the game.
The CFP has done something else significant. It has widened the gap between the way college sports actually operates, as a multibillion-dollar professional sports enterprise, and the rhetoric college sports uses to camouflage its status as big business. The tension between running a playoff system that rivals the NFL and the NCAA's amateurism narrative has never been wider, and it is almost impossible to defend with a straight face.
Look how fast the NCAA trotted out a payment to the parents and guardians of players for travel expenses to the CFP title game. Have you ever seen the NCAA act so quickly to provide such a "benefit?" I certainly cannot recall one. In doing so, the NCAA has proven beyond all doubt that amateurism is not a "bedrock principle," but an elastic notion that sways in whatever direction the wind blows.
When compensation to players is discussed, it is dismissed out of hand (as the notion of the CFP used to be) with nonsensical responses such as, "Where will the money come from?" And, "Do we pay everyone the same?" And, "If we pay the men, we will have to pay the women." And, "What about the player at the end of the bench? He or she works just as hard as the best player, so shouldn't he or she receive the same amount?"
Those ridiculous questions could be asked of this new CFP payment to players' parents. Where will the money come from? The same place the money comes from to pay everyone else. Nobody ever asks where the money will come from when Nick Saban or Mike Krzyzewski sign new contracts, or when an offensive coordinator signs for over a million dollars. Do we pay everyone the same? Despite the fact that no multibillion-dollar industry pays everyone the same amount, this CFP payment does not now extend to sports beyond football and men's and women's basketball. Why? Are the other 90 or so NCAA championships considered lesser events in the lives of the parents and players? Do they not want to see their kids perform on a championship stage? If this CFP payment is not "pay for play," it is certainly "pay for winning." If you win, your family gets paid. It is certainly not enough, nor anywhere near what these players are worth, but it is a step in the right direction.
Lastly, and perhaps most important, the success of the CFP might actually be a driving force in shrinking the size of Division I sports. In the 1980s, the NCAA lost control of football. The College Football Association was formed, and many opined that, when football was being wrestled away from NCAA control, the CFA schools should take basketball with them, effectively ending NCAA control over the money and autonomy of the big shots in college sports. To this day, many lament the decision not to take basketball with football to be one of the biggest mistakes college sports made during that period.
Now, after the BCS era, the CFP era will change college football scheduling, and there will be disincentives for top schools to play smaller schools in "guarantee" games. No longer will Alabama take a breather against Charleston Southern without consequence, giving its cupcake opponent a fat check and padding its win total and giving its players a break during the SEC season while it bores the daylights out of its fans. Those days are coming to a close. Nobody wants to watch those games, and players don't want to play in them. The smaller schools that are using their players as traveling tackling dummies to get an $800,000 check will have to find alternative sources of revenue.
Similarly, in the footsteps of football, college basketball will be following a similar path. Division I college basketball is simply too big. There are 350 Division I teams in basketball, and large conferences that require 18 to 20 conference games. Conferences have become so big that "home and home" or "round robin" play is as extinct as the dodo bird. The proliferation of conference games has impacted nonconference scheduling such that over 33 percent of all nonconference games featuring a Top 25 team are played at neutral sites. And, while I believe that major conference players are exploited (but certainly not mistreated) because they are denied the right to fair compensation, the players from these smaller conferences are both exploited and mistreated.
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Texas Southern's upset of Michigan State masks the deeper issue of guarantee games in college basketball.
Take the case of Texas Southern of the tiny Southwestern Athletic Conference, a school that has never won an NCAA tournament game in the main draw. Texas Southern was celebrated for beating Michigan State in East Lansing and Kansas State in Manhattan this season even though the Tigers were drilled in most of their other games, including a 40-point loss to Gonzaga, a 25-point loss to Florida and double-digit losses in six other games. Entering January, Texas Southern had played only one game at home. Just one.
The Tigers played 12 nonconference "true road" games in the months of November and December at Eastern Washington, Indiana, Tennessee, Norfolk State, SMU, Baylor, Florida, Gonzaga, Michigan State, Auburn, Kansas State and New Mexico State. On Jan. 17, Texas Southern will play its second home game of the season. In the regular season, Texas Southern will play only 10 games at home.
Schools like Texas Southern are doing this for one reason and one reason only: to make money. Putting an unpaid, amateur student on the road for two straight months like a minor league baseball player is unconscionable. There is no legitimate reason for such games to be played when the universe of Division I can be easily reduced so that schools with similar resources and missions can play each other and business can be conducted in a fair and open way.
What is inevitable in college basketball and college football, in addition to player compensation, is the contraction of the ridiculously large field into fewer units. College basketball can reduce the size of Division I and have more competitive play among teams that have more in common. It will make the product better. Fans will buy tickets to better games, because they are clearly not consuming these "guarantee games" the way they used to. And, players want to play in big games, not in these guarantee games. If Division I is reduced in size, players will be spread across fewer units and there will be better teams and better competition.
And, those who believe college sports should be played like it is at the Division II or Division III level can conduct their business in that manner and let the moneyed big shots compete among themselves without crying foul every time someone wants cream cheese on a bagel. It all makes sense, and it is coming to theaters near you. If you believe Williams and Amherst "do it the right way," then play in that division. But, if you want to play high-level, Division I sports, you should be able to perform at that level on the field and devote the same amount of resources.
Reducing the size of Division I is not that difficult, in word or deed. Being extremely generous as to inclusion, if the NCAA were simply to take the 65 teams from the five "power conferences" (ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and SEC), the 11 teams from the American Athletic Conference, the 14 teams from the Atlantic 10, the 10 teams from the Big East, the 10 teams from the Missouri Valley Conference, the 11 teams from the Mountain West and the 10 teams of the West Coast Conference, Division I would have 131 teams. That is a manageable number, and one from which every team could put together competitive nonconference schedules to go along with their league slates.
And, if you examine the teams among those 131, you will find that the overwhelming majority of at-large teams and teams that actually win games in the NCAA tournament come from that group. Of the over 200 teams outside of that group, there is not a long list of teams that have had any reasonable degree of success in the NCAA tournament beyond the occasional upset. It is incredibly rare for any team from that list of over 200 teams to reach the second weekend of the NCAA tournament. If parity indeed exists, wouldn't such teams win more? The truth is, they don't win more because they cannot be expected to be competitive with a universe of 350 teams.
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Limiting automatic bids could keep teams like Albany from sharing a court with Florida.
The biggest obstacle is the "mental hurdle" some would have to clear for there to be any change at all in the makeup or execution of the NCAA tournament. They would argue that any such change would ruin the tournament and kill the goose that laid the golden egg (even though the golden egg was apparently laid for the benefit of only administrators and coaches). They would also argue that such a system would lock out proud programs that have competed in the Final Four, such as Dartmouth (1942), Princeton (1965), UTEP (1966), Western Kentucky (1971), Charlotte (1977) and Penn (1979). Then they would finish off tugging at your heartstrings by saying it would ruin the beauty of Championship Week and effectively end any notion of Cinderella.
Such doomsday prognostications are simply not good enough. The conduct of the regular season should not be based upon the diminishing chances of an upset bid by teams in the bottom half of Division I. Plus, while the 131 teams referenced above would make up Division I, there would be nothing stopping the NCAA tournament committee from inviting whichever teams it wanted to participate in the national championship event without having to include so many lesser teams as automatic qualifiers. The large amount of noncompetitive automatic qualifiers make the NCAA tournament less competitive and less interesting, rather than more competitive and more interesting. So, if you want Mercer, Norfolk State or Lehigh in the NCAA tournament, invite them. But, giving an automatic bid to every conference in a field of 350 teams is not giving us the best teams competing for a national championship.
And, if you argue that asking the 200 or so teams to compete for a Division II or Division III title diminishes them and is unfair, then you are arguing that the Division II and Division III championships are lesser events and not as meaningful as the Division I national championship.
Many coaches will sneer at reducing the size of Division I because they fear it will mean the elimination of "cupcake," nonconference wins, which will cause coaches to lose more games and will lead to more coaches getting fired sooner. While it is hard to imagine that coaches would get fired more often or with even less patience, that might very well be true -- to a degree. Is that reason enough to continue to carry a bloated Division I so the big shots can pad their schedules and over 200 schools can get fat guarantee money off the backs of their players? No, it's not.
The College Football Playoff has made one thing crystal clear: We are not headed in the direction of fewer conference games, reduced revenue generation and an adherence to the antiquated and clearly false rhetoric of the NCAA power structure. We are headed to bigger games, bigger spectacles, bigger conferences, bigger conference schedules and bigger paychecks. The paychecks will be so big that more will inevitably trickle down to the players. And, the competition on the field and on the court will be enhanced and improved. The biggest winners there are players and fans. It's about time.
@jaybate-1.0 You know what else might happen is that Perry gets over looked because he hasnt been performing well at all. His percentages plummeted and they ( ISU ) might feel that he isnt the guy they need to focus on to stop. That might give Perry the room he needs to break it loose. My only question is can Perry contain Niang on the other end AND have a killer offensive game? We will need him to. Im betting that Oubre could switch onto Niang and contain him pretty well, so that might be an option.
Ive seen it mentioned quite blatantly in everyones other posts on topic, and I feel the same. I honestly believe that to beat ISU AT their place tomorrow. Coach needs to be able to play inside out AND outside in. He needs to throw some curve balls at Freddy boy. Because it is for certain that curveballs will be thrown at HCBS and our boys too. With ISU losing its last game and not wanting to lose at home for 2 L's in a row, its going to be a battle. If KU can keep it close in the first half and make a run at the end, They could come out with a W.
I hope I am wrong but Im not seeing a win for KU this game. I think ISU is going to be locked in cuz they need this win more than KU does right now.
@jaybate-1.0 Oubre isnt really tall. 6'7" but a 7'2" wingspan? Thats long. His hands and feet are lightning quick too. If I am not mistaken, over the last few games or so, he has averaged atleast 2 steals per game and a block or two also.
BUt, I was thinking about our '16 class. By then we will need bigs and wings. All with length preferably.
@jaybate-1.0 Nice post dude! Man that game was awfully painful to watch and yet entertaining at the same time.
Selden can still dunk! Wow!
Perry, man he keeps stinking things up, 5 to's? and 4 in a row!? but yah he did give solid effort defensively and came up with a couple good hustle plays.
Oubre made me laugh when he nudged Cobbins and got pushed. Did ya'll see his face? He was like, Whaaaat? I didnt do nuthin to that guy! Pity his 3pt shots werent falling, or his FT's he probly would have score 20+
Cliff, man that flex after his gorilla slam, I didnt think that was Tech worthy. What a bs call.
Anyhow, I'll see your 2 conference losses @jaybate-1.0 and raise you two more. WVU is playing lights out right now, gonna be hard to beat them in their place. Same with ISU and Texas. I'll leave one loss undecided, cuz you just never know. But, I still think we Atleast share the conference title. But that opinion is subject to change. Will reassess after January.
@JayHawkFanToo HA! That was freeking awesome!! Rick Flair, man thats oooooollld school
@HawkInMizery Im with you dude
@jaybate-1.0 whose KU's coaching chair?
@jaybate-1.0 Coach Self wants another ring and banner to hang in AFH. In addition to your prediction Jaybate, I raise you that HCBS will get his next ring in 2-4 years. Final Four appearance maybe even sooner.
@wrwlumpy Oh! my question has been answered.
@wrwlumpy Devonte' is a STUD! Im soooo glad he is back in time for the meat grinder that is to come starting tuesday
@wrwlumpy SVI is 6'8" I wonder how tall his parents are?
@jaybate-1.0 Waayyy off topic but it was and is literally frozen rope here in Vermont. a few nights ago it was -15 plus windchill and its still barely in the teens here.
Ok, back to topic @DinarHawk I think @HighEliteMajor is right. They played basically the easiest team in the big 12 and they didnt just pound it inside. I didnt see hardly any hi lo action being run. There were a ton of drives into the post for feeds in the post or kick outs to shooters.
IMHO they were Practicing what they will need to do against the brutal schedule coming up in order to get some big W's. They are going to need all that practicing. As we have seen so far, Anybody can beat Anybody. No game is a gimme, from here on. TCU and TxTech are still 0 fer but Kstate, who also was 0 fer just beat a very good OU team. And Okie state just beat Texas. As I said, its going to be a dog fight unto the breach of Big 12 play. Now that CS has apparently realized this teams strengths, truly, and seems to be scheming his game plan fluidly, from team to team. They are going to be hard, hard, to beat. Perry NEEDS to keep picking and popping for treys and needs to keep getting his quick post spin moves for And ones. WIth Devonte' back and Mason being Mason, we are back at the top of the conference race once again.
If we can get thru January protecting our home court advantage and steal a couple W's on the road, I really like our chances to bring home #11. And, I really like our chances to make a longer run in the NCAAs.
I think our big guy is all healed up. I just saw a photo of a post game after the 76ers won. "Biid" was out there on the floor in tennies, with no boot on! Jumping around celebrating with his 'mates. Wonder if He will see playing time this year??
Also, after seeing Tarik do so well and of course JOJO will be a stud. I think we can put to rest any notions that KU can't churn out NBA bigs.
@jaybate-1.0 dude. you have a good point there. I mean even Scott Drew can get some of his guys NBA ready....I think.
@KUSTEVE HA! Well it is tied right now. So it could be a close game at the end.
I was just at the gym watching Texas A&M hand it to Kentucky, up at the half by 5 or something. Then I left, got home and now Kentucky is up with 7 to go? Geeeeeez. They can play the sloppiest game and come away with a win against a far lesser opponent. Not taking away from A&M, they didnt seem to be backing down from Kentuckys footers and Length. But it just chaps my hide to see them slogging thru conference play and probly not going to get beat. They'll get the top over all 1 seed in the big dance and have the easiest path to the Final Four. What a load of crap!
@Crimsonorblue22 Oh yah, then ISU
@JayHawkFanToo Agreed, funny thing is though, when either of those teams play KU, its always a dog fight, competition always ramps up for KU. Wonder why that is? ;) I just hope our boys are ready for it. ISU is up next after TxTech if Im not mistaken.
@wrwlumpy Dude, KU better be On that kid right freeking now.
@jayballer54 Speaking of Iowa State, Im watching the replay of Iowa state/ Okie state game. At the half, Ive seen nothing of both teams that screams impending losses against either team. Im thinking KU should hide Ellis on defense if they can, use Traylor and Oubre and Greene to defend against Georges. Definitely shoot more 3's, So far in the game, The Mayor hasnt used his footer once yet against Okie state.
@brooksmd What ever it means, we know Devonte' isnt getting a medical rouge smoking jacket. He may play today but I doubt he gets more than a few minutes to spell Mason.
@icthawkfan316 Cool! Im totally pulling for Wigs to get Rookie of the Year. And Im totally pulling for Tarik to stay with his new team. He's a beast. maybe not as athletic as Randle but he is a bigger and stronger dude out there. Rock chalk you guys!
@JayHawkFanToo If Mason guards him? No way.
@justanotherfan Im not saying we are going to beat Okie state but they just dont seem like they will be as big an upset threat as they were the last two years with Mr Flopper king Smart.
@ralster I saw Isaiah Austin giving his...teammates? the what for during a time out also.
@BeddieKU23 Cool post! Great points, all of them. What the heck is wrong with Perry Ellis!?!? Dude just has not had a good game in like half the season so far. I see him drop his head on missed shots and missed D & missed boards? Maybe he is realizing he isnt NBA material? I have no idea but its hard to watch. He is a good player, a good one. Very good. But he isnt playing like it. Its like he is psyching himself out before the game starts, anticipating that he'll fuck up somewhere and just lets that keep him from playing to his talent level.
@drgnslayr "Kelly... wow... 4 steals! When was the last time we had a Jayhawk get 4 steals?!"
Im betting not since the Brandon Rush/Mario Chalmers/RussRob era. Ive said it before. I think Oubre has the quickest hands since Russ and Rio. Ive seen someone else compare Oubre to Rush and his quick tenacious D.
@drgnslayr WORD to yo mutha! Not meant as an insult, quite the opposite in fact. Killer post game summary dude. Man, Greene and Mason are end of the game studs! Selden's late flurry and Oubre's lightning quick hands were game changers as well. That game was bonkers! Both teams held to what, 30% from the field? KU wins yet another opener. Have since 1991. Did Kenpom predict a Baylor win in this one? Bet he did cuz vegas line was like -3 to BU.
You called it Slayr, Coach Self > Coach Drew on any given night.
RCJH!
@JhawkAlum Hot stuff!!