@kjayhawks said in Let’s talk Illinois:
@Texas-Hawk-10 exactly, if you would told me this was his first season in football, I would’ve believed it no questions asked.
I'm not at your level of being down on the team. Not once have I said that Daniels should be benched or anyone be fired. Right now, you sound little like a certain someone who only shows up when there's something negative going on with the basketball team.
@FarmerJayhawk The lack of situational awareness from Grimes play calling is very concerning for someone in his 7th year as an OC.
@FarmerJayhawk The genuine concerns at this point are Grimes play calling and Daniels decision making. The play calling was atrocious and didn't play to Daniels or the rest of the offenses strengths at all. There was no reason last night for the run pass balance to be 50/50. It really should've been much closer to 60/40 in favor of running the ball. Also, the situational play calling was not good either. Grimes has one of the top backs in the country and threw on a third and short on both their second and third to last possessions. KU still had the lead on that third to last possession when Grimes threw on both 2nd and 3rd and 3 with Daniels hovering around 50% completion. There was still 13 minutes left so I get passing in 2nd and 3 and taking a shot, but passing on 3rd and 3 when you have Neal and Hishaw in the backfield is incredibly dumb play calling. Who cares if Illinois knows that ball should go to Neal or Hishaw in that situation, KU's line and Neal and Hishaw are good enough to get 3 yards. Devin Neal only touching the ball twice the entire 4th quarter is inexcusable.
Grimes also didn't call plays to Daniels strengths as a passer. Daniels has never had the biggest arm so why is Grimes calling so many deep passes? How many of those deep passes were incomplete because of being badly underthrown including Daniels third INT of the game?
The first two of Daniels INT's were really bad because of Daniels decison making. The first pick was Daniels trying to make a Mahomes style play/throw and he doesn't have the arm strength. The pick six should've been tucked and run because of that screen was a busted play from the start, but Daniels didn't recognize it.
There's genuine reason for concern at this point going forward because of Grimes play calling and Daniels decison making.
Daniels has never had the arm strength to throw all the deep passes Grimes wants to throw. How many of those deep throws to Skinner did he badly underthrow tonight? Our passing game needs to focus much more on the short and intermediate routes with only 2 or 3 deep shots total per game. Grimm and Arnold are good enough at those short and intermediate routes to cause secondaries lots of issues.
The pick six looked like it was tipped by an Illinois linemen. Skinner probably would have dropped it though.
As much as we all dislike KSU, in the long run, this was a win that'll benefit the entire conference. Tulane was/is a threat to get to G5 playoff spot so a road win from one of our conference contenders helps the B12's overall profile and possibility of getting a second team in the playoffs. Same deal with OSU over Arkansas, these are types of wins the B12 needs. BYU last night was big because SMU was a dark horse ACC contender. It'd also be really nice if ISU could pull the upset today.
@wissox said in Let’s talk Illinois:
@stoptheflop I agree. It’ll be the first non conference road win in in a long time. (If we win)
KU won at Nevada last season, won at Houston in 2022 and won at Boston College in 2019.
@jayballer67 UConn doesn't have anywhere near the value you think they do. The ACC has passed on adding UConn at least 3 times in the past so they clearly aren't interested in dealing with their football program either.
If the ACC implodes and all the powerhouses leave, especially their basketball powerhouses, why would UConn want to join a depleted ACC when they already fought to leave a depleted AAC to rejoin the Big East? UConn basketball alone isn't attractive enough to major conference to justify housing their football program.
@jayballer67 How many times did the ACC have a chance to add UConn and why did they pass on them every single time? It was just 2-3 years ago there was serious discussion about their football program dropping back down to the FCS level.
@stoptheflop That was our bowl game opponent last year so they aren't bad and UH was projected finish at the bottom of the B12 this year so not really a surprise today.
@kjayhawks This was never going to be a big stats game for Daniels. Sanders put up big numbers because he played a full game and CU needed every bit of his performance to win. It'd be a big problem if we needed JD6 to put up big numbers last night.
Last shut out was 29-0 against Louisiana Tech in 2008.
Looks like last time KU held a team to single digits was Central Michigan in 2018.
When was the last time KU shut a team out?
@rockchalkjayhawk said in UConn to B12?:
On UConn...
How quickly ya'll forget that Kansas football was at the BOTTOM of the NCAA barrel for a long time! Look at us now! Go Hawks!!!
A little cash infusion and UConn can get it together eventually.
How many opportunities has the ACC had to add UConn over the years? Why did the ACC, a conference known more for basketball than football repeatedly pass over UConn? That's how big of a black hole UConn football is.
@AsadZ said in UConn to B12?:
@Texas-Hawk-10 They plan to delay football until 2030/2031.
UConn is pitching to B12 how their FB program will become competitive by then.
UConn football will never be worth it. Even the one year they won the Big East and made the Fiesta Bowl, they lost money because they couldn't sell their allotment of tickets. The New England area just doesn't care about college football. Of the 3 FBS programs in the New England region, 2 are independent because no other FBS league wants them right now and the 3rd is an ACC doormat that's going to get left behind whenever the ACC implodes. People in New England just don't care about college football.
UConn football is an albatross that shouldn't come near the B12. This is where the B12 could get creative and invite 2 or 4 schools for basketball only. That would potentially open the door for Gonzaga as well went that route. Maybe Creighton and Wichita St. to round out a 20 team basketball league.
@stoptheflop said in Lindenwood Lions:
I assume the Lindenwood game will be treated like an NFL exhibition game: starters the first Q, 2nd string Q2 and reserves the rest of the way. Coach Self plays the starters most of the exhibition game, which always surprises me. I fully expect that Coaches Lipold and Grimes will show some mercy at The Mercy Park stadium.
This is not an exhibition game, it counts for real and Leipold will treat it as such. If KU builds a huge lead, then Leipold will start subbing in back ups. If the game stays close, then the starters stay on the field for the entire game. KU's schedule is very soft this year so they'll need some style points to help with rankings.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Lindenwood Lions:
@stoptheflop I like it too, especially Washburn. Do you suppose that game will disappear the more teams we add?
No, very few schools FBS schools don't schedule an FCS game. Only 15 FBS schools aren't playing an FCS school this season and USC is the only FBS school to have never played an FCS game.
The FCS games are not always added years in advance. KU currently has their FBS non-confernce schedule set through 2032 and have their FCS games scheduled from 2026-2029. KU currently doesn't have an FCS game scheduled from next season yet.
@Jhawk69 said in Jalon Daniels health:
I think now would be an appropriate time to ask. Does anybody have any insight into who will be our backup QB next year? Whoever it is could be the key to our season
Cole Ballard or Isaiah Marshall
This thread is a reminder of why we need ranked choice voting in this nation for elections and to heavily modify or abolish the Electoral College to more accurately reflect how the population of states actually vote.
@approxinfinity said in Comparing KJ Adams and AJ Storr:
@Texas-Hawk-10 other than the Lawson year 2018 when Kansas was 41st adjD on kenpom, Kansas has been top 25 for the last decade.
That team lacked the athleticism this team will have, i think. Will certainly be interesting.
The only reason KU finished top 25 last year was because of what they were prior to McCullar getting hurt. After his injury, that was the worst defensive Bill Self team I've ever seen.
This year, 3 out of the 5 starters from last season are back, Griffen and Storr figure to replace Furphy and McCullar as the other two starters. The starting line up is going to be worse defensively than last season because Storr is a terrible defender that can't hold McCullar's jock on that end. Griffen is a slight upgrade over Furphy, but not known as a good defender either. As for the other transfers, Mayo and Coit are in Storr territory for their defensive abilities while Moore is only top level defender Self brought in, but he's basically a Harris clone on offense so you can't play them together frequently unless defending a lead.
The offensive issues of playing Adams and Dickinson together won't magically go away unless Adams has developed 3 point range. Opposing defenses will still clog the paint taking away the ability to drive and iso a defender which will hurt Storr's game. It also makes force feeding Dickinson still a challenge because he'll still be instantly double teamed any time he catches the ball and this team still won't be a great shooting team.
Like I said, I think this team will be better overall because they will be better offensively and should have playable depth this year. Unless Storr and Griffen have made major strides on defense, I just don't see this team being good enough on that end to win a national title this season or even a Big 12 title.
It also concerns me a bit that AJ Storr has already said he's planning on headed to the NBA after this season, so how committed is he really to buying in to what Self does?
Adams and Storr are different players with different skill sets that play different positions.
The short version this without deep diving it is that KJ's offensive skill set isn't a great fit for what Self traditionally likes to run or with the other players on the court and AJ Storr's offensive strengths fill one of the biggest issues KU had last year in scoring.
I'm personally not as high on this team this season as many others are. I believe KU will be better than last season, but I don't see a championship caliber team this season like many others do. This team wasn't great defensively last season and most of the new players Self brought in are below average to terrible defenders so that's going to be a major area of concern this season.
@mayjay said in Generic soccer thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 From the perspective of the rest of the world, KU already has a men's "football" team. 🤷♂️
Actually, they would not have to add an actual team in other women's sports if they can show they offered the opportunity to women to play in other sports but could not draw enough participants to make it viable despite legitimate recruiting efforts.
Almost every school complies with the equal numbers test (which looks distorted due to college football teams having so many men), but there are two other ways schools can comply. One is the one I just referred to (it has been awhile, so my description is a rough summary), but I forget the third "safe harbor." No one wants to go to the trouble of using tests 2 or 3.
Your first part wouldn't fly in a federal investigation because there's several women's sports that KU could add that would absolutely have enough interest to become sustainable. Gymnastics would be the most likely program to add to balance adding a men's soccer team.
@wissox said in Generic soccer thread:
@AsadZ Does KU not have a mens team because of title 9?
Basically. KU would have to add more women's sports as well to support having a men's soccer program to stay compliant with Title IX.
The highest rated recruits of the Bill Self era are Andrew Wiggins, Josh Jackson, Josh Selby, Cliff Alexander, David Padgett (this is where an asterisk would go), and Xavier Henry. Darryn Peterson would be 3rd between Jackson and Selby if he committed. This is based the 24/7 composite ratings.
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
@BShark said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
So who’s destined for more playing time: Moore or Coit?
Moore, by a lot imo
Does Moore have any defense to his game? We’re gonna need somebody to play D.
Moore is an elite level defender. I would expect to see him and Harris on the floor together a lot closing out games because of their defense.
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Keeping track of the ever changing 24-25 roster:
So who’s destined for more playing time: Moore or Coit?
I wonder if it comes down to who’s hot plays, Zeke or Coit?
It's very possible neither ends up playing a lot minutes unless Self expands his rotation past 8. I think it's possible that happens though because on paper, this appears like a team that will frustrate the hell out of Self because there's a lot of below average to terrible defenders on this team this season.
@nuleafjhawk said in Need Games To Start:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I'm a little uncomfortable with your intimate knowledge of Michael Phelps' body....
There were a lot of studies in why Phelps was able to dominate swimming the way he did shortly after he retired.
This isn't a French pole vaulter situation.
I'm still bitter about 2005 so I'm not all that upset to see the Sox suck. At least y'all don't have the worst stadium in MLB, until this season is done and the A's leave Oakland.
People are born with natural genetic advantages. Michael Phelps is a perfect example of this. Phelps has a long torso and arms, he's 6-4 with a 6-8 wingspan, amd has short legs which means less drag. He also has big feet (size 14) and more flexible ankles than other people. Phelps also produces much less lactic acid than others meaning he can push himself longer and harder and need less recovery time. He's also double jointed in some joints that aren't typical of even elite swimmers which gave him more power in some of his strokes. He also has double the lung capacity of the average human.
Phelps was essentially the perfect swimmer because of some genetic abnormalities that were beneficial to him as a swimmer. Obviously, he also worked his ass off training to become the greatest swimmer of all time, but he also had some natural genetic advantages.
Imane Khelif was also born with some natural genetic advantages. Based on pictures, it looks like she's a bit taller than most of her opponents which means she has a longer reach to keep her opponents at bay. She's not a knock out artist, only 5 KO's in her career, so her genetic advantages didn't turn her into 1980's Mike Tyson when most of his fights weren't making past the first round.
Just a tiny bit of research would make people realize that Khelif isn't transgender because she'd currently be in prison for that since that's the punishment for being transgender in Algeria.
From the original post, I actually prefer the remake of True Grit over the original because I hated the Mattie character in the original and wanted her to die because she came across as such a whiny brat. I much preferred Hailee Steinfeld's performance because she made Mattie more sympathetic and likeable.
@rockchalkjayhawk Turn the match off and don't finish it.
KU played like shit during the Elam ending.
Mass St. down 8 at halftime amd they went off in the 3rd quarter to take a 7 point lead going into the 4th.
@approxinfinity said in Dream Team 2024 vs 1992:
@Texas-Hawk-10 interesting… this guy answers my speculation. domestic PER is still higher. Its the top international talent, not the mean, that is great:
https://www.bruinsportsanalytics.com/post/international-players-nba ↗
The PER numbers he used were from 5 and 6 seasons ago and the difference between both seasons was less than 1 point which isn't a significant difference in regards to PER. PER is also a flawed metric to base how good a player is overall because it's heavily biased towards offense.
Back in 1991-92, there were only 23 foreign born players in the NBA. This past season, there was 125 foreign born players in the NBA. The Dream Team was largely responsible for the growth of the game internationally and a lot of those players choosing basketball instead of other sports like soccer.
The overall quality of international countries has increased significantly in the past 32 years and that gap between the US and everyone else is nowhere near what it 32 years ago.
The days of expecting the US to blow everyone out by 40+ is over. It can still happen, but that's no longer the expectation anymore because the world is much better now than in 1992. The US should beat Serbia in their first game of group play, but they won't have the best player on the court that game, Serbia will.
@RockkChalkk Their RPI was close to 80 this year because they played a very week non-confernce schedule and the Big 12 wasn't good this year overall.
@kjayhawks said in Dream Team 2024 vs 1992:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I think that’s a fair assessment, this years team plays zero defense to me is the main issue. If they played Jordan likely goes for 60 plus.
We're also comparing this team playing exhibition games at less than full strength. I want to wait until after the Olympics to fully assess how good this group really is. Another major thing to consider is just how much better the rest of the world is now compared to 1992. Now, over 20% of the league is foreign born compared to less than 5% back in 1992.
@approxinfinity said in Dream Team 2024 vs 1992:
@FarmerJayhawk my son tried to argue as you did. We spent some time looking at Michael and Lebron highlights. Keep in mind that guys were in their prime in 92. Lebron Curry and Durant are not in their prime.
MJ is by far the best player out of either group. He was in his prime at that point and there is nobody that touches prime MJ.
The 1992 roster included:
C- David Robinson, Patrick Ewing
PF- Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, Christian Laettner
SF- Larry Bird, Scottie Pippen, Chris Mullin
SG- Michael Jordan, Clyde Drexler
PG- Magic Johnson, John Stockton
This year's roster includes:
C- Joel Embiid, Anthony Davis
PF- Bam Adebayo, Lebron James
SF- Kevin Durant, Jayson Tatum
SG- Anthony Edwards, Derrick White, Devin Booker
PG- Steph Curry, Tyrese Haliburton, Jrue Holiday
The biggest differences between the rosters is that the 2024 team is much more guard heavy because of the evolution of the game.
At the center spot, I think I'd give a slight edge to the Dream Team.
At the 4 spot, I'd say it's a push. Barkley and Malone were in their promes and both were better than Adebayo, but Bam is better than Laettner was. Lebron is a push with Barkley and Malone because he's still a top 5 player in the NBA today after all these years.
At the SF spot, I'd give the edge to the 2024 team. Bird was chosen as a legacy player amd was a shell of himself at that point because of his back and KD and Tatum are a better duo than Pippen and Mullin.
At the SG spot, the Dream Team has the edge. Prime MJ is the GOAT, and prime Drexler was better than the current crop of guards other than Booker. Drexler led Portland to multiple NBA Finals during his career there.
I'd give the PG edge to the 2024 team because of their depth. Magic wasn't Magic anymore amd although I think prime Stockton was better than any of the 2024 PG's individually, he's not better by a significant margin.
As for an actual game, I'd probably pick the Dream Team in a close game. The 2024 team isn't great defensively, but is a much better shooting team than the Dream Team.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Tornados:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Tornados:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Tornados:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I think you have the chain of causality backwards. New members are more beholden to special interests than more senior members. They haven’t been able to develop a unique relationship with their voters so they have to maintain close ties with the groups that supported them originally. For example, if someone were to challenge Senator Moran they’d have to get the support of AFP, Farm Bureau, the Chamber, etc to mount a real challenge. Jerry can go it alone because his constituents know and trust him. More recently, whether it’s JD Vance or Rafael Warnock, they have to pander to stick around. Their senior staff also come largely from special interests since they don’t have a network on the Hill yet.
I'm going to tell you right now, going down this rabbit hole isn't going to be productive because this is something we will never see eye to eye on. You're too tied into the that world because of your agriculture background while I've seen my profession fucked over countless times because of special interest groups lobbying for policies that actively harm public education. I'm not going to change your mind and you're not going to change my mind on this matter so I'd suggest leaving this here.
Ag, public finance, working on the Hill, in a state legislature, regularly meeting with lobbyists, did a PhD in education policy…
The Texas education wars are a good example. Special interests are playing on both sides (unions vs. business) in GOP primaries. It’s not special, there are hundreds of millions poured into elections from groups on all sides of the issue.
That's the fucking problem, those hundreds of millions of dollars have much better uses than convincing some politician to push their agenda on the public that's not in the best interests of the people they're supposed to be representing. That's money that could be used in their own communities to improve the overall quality of life in those places or to pay lower level employees better wages. So again, you're never going to convince me that the money spent by billion dollar conglomerates on lobbying is a net positive. There's a reason why the US is ranked near or at the bottom of 1st world countries in quality of healthcare and education, and those billions of dollars spent annually on lobbying by those industries is a big reason why.
Enjoy the last word on this though because I'm done responding to you on this topic.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Tornados:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I think you have the chain of causality backwards. New members are more beholden to special interests than more senior members. They haven’t been able to develop a unique relationship with their voters so they have to maintain close ties with the groups that supported them originally. For example, if someone were to challenge Senator Moran they’d have to get the support of AFP, Farm Bureau, the Chamber, etc to mount a real challenge. Jerry can go it alone because his constituents know and trust him. More recently, whether it’s JD Vance or Rafael Warnock, they have to pander to stick around. Their senior staff also come largely from special interests since they don’t have a network on the Hill yet.
I'm going to tell you right now, going down this rabbit hole isn't going to be productive because this is something we will never see eye to eye on. You're too tied into the that world because of your agriculture background while I've seen my profession fucked over countless times because of special interest groups lobbying for policies that actively harm public education. I'm not going to change your mind and you're not going to change my mind on this matter so I'd suggest leaving this here.
@FarmerJayhawk Term limits are absolutely necessary. I'll agree that constant turnover isn't good for stability, but neither are people serving 20+ years either. Set it at 12 years so that's 2 terms for a senator or 6 terms for a representative. I'm sure people could argue all day about an exact amount of time, but that's not the point. The point is not allowing people to be career politicians and get to a point where they're owned by lobbyist groups and serving them instead of the people that elected them like they are supposed to do.
Lobbyists themselves aren't the issue which is why I never specifically mentioned them. The issue is the money attached to lobbyist groups. Here in Texas, the only reason marijuana has not been legalized in any form at the state level is because of the private prison lobby lining the pockets of our representatives. I don't know the exact numbers because it's late and I'm too tired to look them up now, but there's a ridiculous amount of people in prison, not jail, but prison in Texas for non-violent drug crimes such as possession of marijuana because private prisons have to have a minimum amount of occupancy to stay open and make money for the politicians who support them.
@approxinfinity said in Tornados:
@Texas-Hawk-10 so, not to be offensive, but to be blunt, i hear you stating a lot of facts that are undoubtedly true, and positive steps that could be taken, and there is obviously value in having a grasp of reality, but when you go so far as saying “things will never change”… its like, what is the point in dilligently paying attention to details of the past only to assume that there is no positive path forward?
This is how younger generations feel when they look and see all the things their parents and grandparents were able to achieve by certain ages and those goals are completely out of reach for many Millennials and Gen-Z Americans.
If you want something practical that has a chance of happening, then raising the federal minimum wage to something in line with the median cost of living is a start. It's been 15 years since minimum wage was increased and $7.25 an hour is not a livable wage anywhere in the US which is what minimum wage is supposed to be, the minimum liveable wage in the US.
@approxinfinity said in Tornados:
I mean. I hear you. But just saying that i think advocating solution is much more important than blame.
The real solutions will never happen because they aren't in the best interests of those in power who make the rules and policies. Getting money out of politics such as super PACs, corporate lobbying, and stuff like that. Congressmen make $174,000 per year. There's no reason members of Congress should become millionaires off of that job. Having to maintain two residences (Washington DC and home district) should prevent politicians from becoming wealthy.
Second, term limits. Being a politician should not be a career. There's no reason why someone who was first elected to national office in the 1960's or 1970's is still in office. This would also apply to the Supreme Court as well.
Third, age limits. There's no reason we should be choosing between a 78 year old narcissist and an 81 year old with cognitive issues for the most powerful office in the world. In November, for the third election in a row, whoever gets elected will be the oldest elected president in US history.
4th, institute ranked choice voting. This allows more third party candidates to have a chance in local and statewide elections as well as Congressional elections.
But like I said, none of those things will ever happen in the US because those things don't benefit those currently in power. Those currently in power didn't get into federal level politics for benevolent reasons.
@approxinfinity said in Tornados:
@Texas-Hawk-10 while i dont disagree that one could spread the blame around, i am a fan of the inverse of the old saying:
It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit.
Harry S Truman
It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the blame. I think blaming is unfortunately a convenient reason for all of us to do nothing.
I'm sorry, but I'm calling bullshit right now because of all the preventable shit I've dealt with this week due to the greed and selfishness of Boomers and Gen-X. That's doesn't doesn't apply to all Boomers and Gen-Xers, but it's the mindset and mentality of those generations at large that have many of the issues in this country today through public policy.
I don't really wanna jeep going on this because I will absolutely get into a culture war and flame Boomers and Gen-X right now because of the bullshit myself and millions of people here in Houston have gone through and still going through in the aftermath of Beryl because of the leadership in this state and city that have caused this situation here.
@kjayhawks said in Tornados:
@approxinfinity as I always say good times create weak people. Tough times create strong people, if you look at the cycle maybe we were too good from after WW2 to the 1990s. I tell my kids constantly this generation is so weak if you are willing to put in the work you will easily make it. As a guy that hires people, if I can find someone that will show up and stay on task below the age of 30. It’s an Absolute miracle and an act of god himself.
I'm going to push back on this a bit a ask a question. Who's responsible for instilling that mentality in Gen-Z and young Millennials? That blame lies squarely at the feet of younger Boomers and Gen-X because that's who raised those kids and are now having to deal with consequences of those parenting choices.
There's stories now coming out of Big 12 media days that the Big 12 could be the frontrunners for landing Florida St. and Clemson along with 4 other ACC schools. The story is the the Big 10 is going to pass on those two due to academics (neither are AAU schools), and that the SEC isn't going to extend an invitation either to FSU or Clemson which leaves the Big 12 as their destination if they can get out of their GoR contracts.
The same story also said that the B10 is interested in expanding into Texas. The AAU criteria pretty much means they'd be looking at Texas A&M. There could definitely be some smoke there as officials at A&M were pretty pissed off at the rest of the SEC for voting Texas into the conference.
I finally got power back late morning today, but no internet and no estimate on when it'll be back. Definitely going be looking for a different internet provider after this.
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Generic soccer thread:
I keep reading stories that put a strike against any coach without international experience. I don’t get it. Why does that matter? Coaching is coaching, right? What am I missing?
International soccer is very different from club soccer in the way you manage teams. And with basically no real prep tournaments for the 2026 World Cup (Gold Cup is a very weak tournament), finding someone who can pull something out his ass the way Jesse Marsch did with Canada this Copa America tournament is going to determine how successful the US will be in the World Cup. The US has the talent to reach the quarterfinals of the World Cup, but consistently underachieves to their talent. If the US wants to take the next step, they need to pay what it takes to bring in a world class manager. If not, we'll keep sweating out the group stages and bowing out in the first knockout stage games.