I have never seen a worse team in transition.
Also be nice to shoot better than 50% from the line
Woodrow
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Huge 3 by Wiggington. Might be the dagger
@DanR in the 4 games without Doke Dedric averaged 23-ppg. He’s been very poor on offense so far. He’s got to step up. They know how to play without Doke.
stoptheflop said:
ESPN has IState with only 5 rbs. Does that seem right?
That’s what the Yahoo Sports box score says
Damn. This team is so bad at shooting .
That start is where we miss Doke. If he’s in you can throw him the ball and get a easy basket to calm things down.
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To me it sounds like Bill thinks he could play but Doke is hesitant. ( which is fine)
Gorilla72 said:
ISU is -1 at the moment.
Line is now Clones -3
@jayballer73 I wouldn't be shocked at all. I think they will lose. It is a hard place to play as it is. We have lost up there with way better teams.
Kcmatt7 said:
Pitino to UCLA picking up steam.
I actually hope that happens. I think it would be a home run hire for them. There is no doubt the guy can coach and he is going to be more motivated than ever to do it now.
dylans said:
Red shirt him. Lol Did Bol Bol show enough to get drafted now? Or does he come back for a second season?
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I agree with @FarmerJayhawk . There’s no reason IMO to add non power 5 teams right now. They just don’t add anything. If the PAC 12 blows up then sure let’s add a couple of them, but outside of Houston those other schools don’t add much. In a article I posted on here a few days ago it doesn’t sound like the Big 12 has any interest in adding Houston. Although I will say with Kelvin Sampson and Holgo they now have a pretty salty 1-2 punch as far as coaches go in the 2 main sports.
I also have never been worried about the Big 12 going anywhere. As long as Texas and OU are in it it will be fine. As @Texas-Hawk-10 said earlier today as much as people hate Texas them being good at football is only going to help the conference.
DoubleDD said:
I kind of feel the UCLA coaching job just isn't what it used to be. The state of California seems more interested in Pro Sports teams, smoking weed and the beach. I'm not sure if I was an up and coming coach I would want that job. Sure recruiting would be somewhat easy. But the Pac whatever just isn't the powerhouse it used to be.
This is pretty much what every analyst has said about the job since they fired Alford. Will be a fascinating search / hire for sure.
Also just saw where Bol Bol is done for the year
kjayhawks said:
The league has looks to have taken a swing towards ugly offense and strong defensive play. We scored the most points tonight with 70. I'm not sure if its really good D or just terrible O, maybe a bit of both.
The Big 12 has 5 teams in KenPoms adjusted D rankings. Tech -1 , KSU - 5, OU - 7, KU - 8, and Texas -10.
So there is going to be some "ugly" ball played this year.
@BeddieKU23 What is the deal there? Those are nice numbers for a FR. Have his minutes been slashed or what? I remember when he was considered a hard KU lean.
Big Clyde52 said:
@Woodrow It is a huge game for this early in the season. If we get a win in Hilton, we should win our next 4 after that, then get ISU at home. A 7-0 start would be outstanding.
100% agree. I was looking at the schedule past this Saturday and it sets up nicely for KU. Saturday could be the big win and a momentum type win for this team.
@Gorilla72 I would be surprised if they came away Saturday with a win.
Got a break on that no call there
Big time effort by Q
Grimes needs to do more of that
We were obviously grossly spoiled with the shooters we have had the past seasons especially last two years, but to go to this is brutal.
justanotherfan said:
Gotta get Garrett out. OU isn't guarding him at all
Who do you play though? They don’t have to guard Grimes, Garrett, or Moore either. We all knew this team was going to lack shooting but I don’t think anyone could have predicted it would be this abysmal.
Grimes shot is not even close. He needs to Attack the rim
WTF is Moore doing? That’s not even a shot.
Bwag said:
Woodrow said:
Had a chance to blow it open and couldn’t capitalize
Up 15 at half not good enough?
Like I said
@Crimsonorblue22 I missed the end of it.
It’s awesome to see how much more active Vick is this year compared to last year
Had a chance to blow it open and couldn’t capitalize
For as good as Dedric is he misses a ton of shots at the rim
Let’s keep this intensity up!
Tech gets a road win in Morgantown
Dave is a black hole
Gorilla72 said:
A poster on 247 from OU doesn’t think McNease is playing tonight. I haven’t seen that anywhere else.
Just saw he is suited up but not starting.
Anyone have the KenPom predicted score for tonight? I’d guess KU by 7-9.
I am interested to see who fills these 8 vacancies. I’m not sure there are 8 true legit candidates out there. I’ve seen a lot of college names thrown around so far, but who knows how much of that is the agent trying to get his client a raise. I’ve seen Kingsbury, Rhule, Brian Kelly, Harbaugh, Fitzgerald off the top of my head.
Obviously the focus is on the Hawks tonight, but the slate for opening night in the Big 12 is pretty good. TT @ WVU, Texas @ KSU , and Iowa St @ Okie St.
Nothing like conference play in college basketball.
@Gorilla72 I just read that and found it odd that nobody has mentioned that his "source" is confident he will be cleared. I haven't heard it mentioned on the radio, twitter, or anywhere.
Also, his article is spot on. It is a joke at this point that he has not been cleared to play or ruled ineligible.
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@kjayhawks I read a article this week when the news came out that they were firing Applewhite and targeting Holgo that this was a move to “impress” the Big 12. However, the article made it sound like the Big 12 has no interest at all in Houston.
OU never had a chance in this game. Bama and Clemson are just on totally different levels.
Princeton just won at Arizona State
Self and Howard are going to to see Hurt play tonight.
Does anyone know what happened to Bol Bol? I noticed he hasn't played in a while and just saw where he is out indefinitely, but never have seen what happened to him...
@dylans Berry was out on the last Seattle drive.
Fuller did not dress and was inactive.
@JayHawkFanToo I love Jesse’s work. I look forward to reading his work and quick scouts on game days.
I think there will be several thousand KU fans in the house tonight so that should help. I actually heard as of yesterday there were still some tickets avalible.
Hope the Hawks come out focused. This would be a nice road win and make Christmas a lot sweeter for the boys and coaches.
That Marquette win is going to look really good come March. I gotta think they are the favorite to win the Big East.
Also Texas loses at home to Providence. Yikes. How in the world did they beat UNC.
I think the Big 12 is a 4-5 bid league this year. Have to wait and see what KSU is without Wade and how long he is out.
Read this article on Mark Mitchell this morning. I’ve heard of him before as he transferred out of my old school district.
Sounds like he is the real deal. Unfortunately I’ve heard that Kentucky is his dream school.
@mayjay Because Beaty screwed us over. He used a bunch of blue shirts and transfers last year to count us against this years class.
I am not a expert on all of that. There are so many loopholes as far as blueshirts, greyshirts, etc...
Meanwhile, blueshirts represent the newest loophole for FBS programs to accumulate depth while not affecting their annual numbers. Like grayshirt recruits, blueshirts are counted toward the next season’s scholarship total.
There is one distinct difference, however. Unlike grayshirts, a blueshirt is able to enroll and participate in team events in the fall. This allows programs to get the best of both worlds: FBS schools can delay a scholarship for the following year, allowing them to over-sign beyond the 25-scholarship limit, and get the use of a prospect immediately rather than waiting until the following spring.
These articles talking about how poor the class are so lazy. They are just looking at rankings and class size. There is so much more going on with this years class. As stated above we had one commit when he took the job. The previous staff basically quit recruiting so Les and his NOT complete staff had approximately 3 weeks to address needs and try to find some kids.
As far as rankings are concerned KU can only take 15 or so kids this year so of course they are going to be ranked well below teams that have 20-25 kids.