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Need two ball handlers - Rylan and AJ scare me in the open court. Mayo isn’t it, but has to play. Diggy does ok. Harris is really the only good ball handler. KJ and Hunt - no more than 2 dribbles.

I hope Bill goes to a more wing heavy offense with 4 out when Hunter is gone. Having Hunter and KJ as two of the best 4 players hamstrung this team. If Rylan or AJ had produced as expected the team would be far better. I still hold out hope for Rylan, but don’t expect him to be back unfortunately.

@wissox Thuney is very good, you should be very happy when he arrives.

Bill prefers two capable ball handlers on the floor at once. Elmarko will start next to Peterson is my prediction at this time. The roster is so far from complete there is really no way to accurately predict anything at this moment.

@AsadZ Good move by Veach. Thuney was gone after next season - As another poster put it Veach says, “I keep getting older, they stay the same age” (insert dazed and confused pic of matthew mcconaughey). He just doesn’t sign players over the age of 30 very often - Kelce and Chris Jones so far have been all I can think of.

I think there are good guard options on the team (Kingsley should have the inside track, Norad maybe, Caleindo isn’t it I hope). They can’t tie up 23 mil for Trey (should be closer to 5-10 this year after a long term deal is done) and 27mil for Thuney (save 16 mil by trading him, but there is a bit of a dead cap hit -11 million).

But there is not a good LT option on the team. Morris isn’t it yet, maybe down the road. Stanley if he can stay healthy would be nice. The OT draft is weak and all the top tackles lack the measurable (34” arms) that Veach covets.

It does seem as though Veach likes to fill as many holes in the roster as possible before the draft. that way he won’t have to draft on need, but rather best player available (at least that is the goal).

@approxinfinity said in Peterson:

I doubt we fix this teams problems but we hung with a top 4 team on their senior night. We showed heart. Light years better than some of our losses

I wonder if that’s a positive for KU or damning for Houston?

Can’t watch, but the box score doesn’t look good. 7 turnovers for Hunter and 5 for Zeke. Is the defense great or are our guys careless?

@approxinfinity Hopefully that doesn’t just mean the SEC donors realize it’s cheaper to have good basketball than football and decide to do both! This year is bothersome in that aspect.

Word of advise (take it or leave it, I’m far from infallible). Temper your expectations for KU football to reduce the disappointment. I hope the hype is real and I feel as though the program is building in the correct way. I still won’t be surprised by a meh season - more than 2 losses eliminates KU from a meaningful postseason game. Since that’s what I expect, it won’t bother me. Those expecting a playoff birth will be disappointed pretty much every year.

If a person did the same thing with KU basketball, imagine the joy you could experience in a year like 2022 instead of expecting it.

@nuleafjhawk said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:

@approxinfinity

Is there any chance you could rename this site "KU Endzone" since many of us are now more interested in the oval ball than the round one?

😂 😂 😂

I still have zero passion for KU football. No way I get anywhere near that bothered about KU football losing even all their games. KU basketball loses a few games and it bothers me greatly. Cost of being a fan.

Barring a plane crash like WSU I would never shed a tear for KU football. Look at all the crying on here about KU basketball. 😂

@BigBad It’s because they finally got better than Jay Wright and took the crown from Villanova. Oh wait, Jay retired? 🤔

I guess for the NBA fans out there the Jayhawks are the equivalent of a 49 win team. I would not expect big things this March.

Here’s hoping for a better senior night!

@kjayhawks i see

@BeddieKU23 that sucks.

Advanced stats say his best position is holding down the end of the bench.

Tape and measurables. Neal has the tape, but his 3 cone time and 40 are not good. Skattbo knew he would test poorly so he skipped them. I think that was smart.

Missed the game. The crowd got a T for throwing a water bottle on the court? What gives? Normally the crowd is more educated than that - tempting as it may be.

Wish the LT position would be addressed properly, then I’ll feel good about Trey coming back. Great player - wrong position (imho) for all that cap space though.

@wissox said in Peterson:

That's all well and good, but when he doesn't lead us to a national championship and bolts for big bucks I'll just yawn. Maybe it will be fun but I'd much rather know the next Jalen Wilson or Devonte Graham of TRob was coming! Maybe they are coming too.

In years we have nothing a Peterson will make it more fun, maybe win the Big12. In years we have a complete team a Peterson would mean a final four or more.

I’d take winning the Big12 over this year!!! Hope my floor prediction is correct.

@wissox I want to know why the hiring process is so messed up he was a probationary employee for 4! years. Not that anyone saw this coming, but it was avoidable and seems weird.

@wissox He just made me think of you in a positive light. Glad that’s uncommon! There are plenty of a-hole KU fans (or any other fanbase) too. Just a small sample size here Wiscy is 50/50 so far 😂

@approxinfinity fan passion is just a wild bi-polar ride.

@approxinfinity that’s a lot of more painful losses than KU has had. Remember only one team gets to enjoy their season? That seems to be the rules here. lol

It’s a form of rhetoric. Sarcastic as fuck I am. As in the fire Bill Self crowd is semi- (fully?) retarded. PC? No, but damn that some of the most idiotic shit I’ve ever heard.

Yeah and UConn should fire Geno. His teams haven’t gone undefeated since 2013 and he hasn’t won a championship since 2015. Washed. 😂

@wissox said in Other games 2024-2025:

Just saw that the Haskell womens coach got terminated because of DOGE actions. Maybe question this expense at the end of the season? But in season? Heartless.

Why was he a probationary employee since 2021? Something else is amiss too.

He did say he would finish the season out - unpaid :/

@wissox I wouldn’t claim the jack wagon. Obnoxious, loud, drunk - I was trying to eat a nice meal with my family - and he came to our table to let us know how much KU sucks and would not leave. He was not exactly someone I’d claim. The non-basketball fans I know from Wisconsin are cool. If that’s what the typical Wisconsin bball fans are like, I don’t know how you act so civil.

@wissox said in Man is KU is really going to stomp Colorado tonight!:

@dylans Did he know UW has a championship?

He said in ‘41… ‘nuff said.

Peterson is the real deal. Will be fun to watch Elmarko, Peterson, and Flory. Nice athletic core.

@wissox said in Man is KU is really going to stomp Colorado tonight!:

It's seeming the lightbulb is at least warming up for Rylan. We really need another scoring option to get this team humming. We don't win that game last night without Rylan playing better.

If I was on the team (LOL) I'd be all over AJ's case. The dude can play but his play is tanking our promising season. Lob city could be our nickname if coach frees that up. One to KJ, one to AJ, one to Flory, rinse repeat.

Ran into a random Wisconsin fan on the beach. (I’m an easy fan to spot in my KU shirts everyday- as an aside one of the locals asked me if that was the company I worked for shirt and hat matched lol I dress like an idiot abroad) He was laughing at how bad KU was with the best roster money could buy. I asked him about all of Wisconsins NCAA championships. Turns out that’ll shut him up- and no he doesn’t want AJ back.

My apologies. 😴

Go KU, reward the red eyed on Tuesday fans!

Another game day thread if you want. Can’t bring myself to post on the defeatist thread.

Hope they keep the momentum! Would be nice to stack some wins.

8pm start is already too late for many, 10pm is ridiculous. Luckily I’m on vacation in Jamaica. - I won’t “miss” the game, but I won’t be watching it either.

@bskeet Thank you.

YMMV

@approxinfinity said in Theyre not diamonds but theyre in the rough:

Too bad you guys werent in control of recruiting the students in your class. Just think how much you could have diminished the odds of a lemon class with that power :)

These are good points. Don’t want to take away from that. Helps with explanation of what we are seeing but culpability is a different animal, obviously.

Have you ever hired someone? It’s not a fun process. You recruit them, evaluate them based on the limited information you have and then they show up to work. It’s rarely as advertised- the best workers usually undersell themselves - it’s the recommendations that you have to pay attention to and then you’re relying on someone else’s evaluation. The worst are usually the best on paper and give great interviews. It’s not easy, even if you have your pick. But that’s not how it works you have to entice them to choose you as well. The entire recruiting process sucks. Then you get to the teaching part - fun for me as I’m sure the coaching is to Self. But not everyone excels and that is the worst feeling.

It’s semantics. Bill and the assistant coaches serve in the recruiting and evaluation rolls. Mass Street collective was in charge of NIL dollars. Stripping duties from a many people to give it to a single GM doesn’t necessarily sound like the best model for success with an experienced staff. On the flip side - - If you had an inexperienced coaching staff (new coach like Scheyer), I would think it would be almost necessary in this era.

I’d rather see more staff devoted strictly to recruiting evaluation rather than a GM with sweeping duties.

@rockchalkjayhawk Had not heard about Staley. That would be a coupe!

@bskeet Those guys all had massive amounts of heart too

Lol

You can’t enjoy the highs, if you aren’t hurt by the lows too. Welcome to the bipolar life of a normal basketball fan. The drug of Bill Self’s dominance has worn off this year. How will we handle the withdrawal?!? Sports sobriety, Ugg. Curl up in the fetal position and cry? Full body spasms as it works its way thru our system? Uncontrollable sweating and Tourette’s like swearing when watching a ball game.

Well, I’ll be damned if the hopium doesn’t have me hooked for at least another year…

It would be nice if Self would pick his 7 guys and just run with them the rest of the year. The rest can sow dissent from the bench, instead of sabotaging the team unwittingly thru sloppy play. I just don’t think there are 7 “KU” guys on the roster.

@approxinfinity KUs three double digit loss seasons (so far in the last twenty five years!!!) are last year, 7 years ago, and 12 years ago. So no it’s not cherry picking to include all of Bill’s career and a bit of Roy’s to get to a quarter century of sustained success. If I go back further it gets a bit darker only highlighting how good off all the newcomers to KU basketball, that have only known Bill Self as the coach, have had it.

Bill Self 3/22 years with double digit losses. (One more on the way)

Roy Williams 5/15 years with double digit losses.

Larry Brown 3/5 years with double digit losses.

Ted Owens 8/19 years with double digit losses. Three years below .500

Et tu brute? I’m sure those that act like these posters would make great friends that would be by your side in the thick and thin. 😂

Coach K pre-season #1 across 8 years - one national championship. UNC has 10 or more losses 10 of the last 13 years. UConn has double digit losses 10 of the last 16 years with two years below .500. Kentucky has double digit losses 6 of the last 13 years. Kansas has double digit losses in 3 of the last 25 years.

But I guess those with pitchforks are going by the eye test on a two year sample size?

@SlimShaddy54 Sounds good to me. Play the young guys for next year. The old mercenaries can sit. They aren’t winning anything this season. Need to plan for the future. Sorry seniors. You had the chance to lead and completely blew it. Set the framework for next season. Give Flory full run. See what you can get out of Passmore. Can Tiller play? See if you can re-engage Rylan. … Time for a shakeup with an eye on the future. - maybe. Will it happen? I’m afraid it’ll be more of the same.

It’s a business now. Fire someone.

It’s not like other teams aren’t paying their players too. $$ doesn’t help, but it isn’t all the problems either. I’m beginning to think Bill needs to kick someone off the team - be it a coach or player to wake them up. This is play is unacceptable and not near their ceiling.

@approxinfinity said in Tonight's game:

Bill made this. He can suffer with them.

He is. Don’t kid yourself.

I think Bill should just get on the plane and leave them all there. lol bums

@SlimShaddy54 said in Tonight's game:

@dylans Ya just bet against the guys-- -make some money I reckon-- that would be positive for me anyways

It’s all I got man. They aren’t a team. Just a collection of basketball players. And a collection of guys will get whooped by a cohesive team that is much less talented most of the time. 🤷‍♂️

@SlimShaddy54 said in Tonight's game:

@dylans But I can't say that's positive about the team

Just your bank account. Bank it. They will not cover very many of the remaining games. Maybe Colorado and OSU. Maybe.