I guarantee you if we sign Langford, the haters are gonna demand investigations, haha. On the other hand, Lil Miller doesn't fall far from the tree. IU is DESPERATE for Langford and will likely do anything to get him. Yet, not one person will think or doubt Lil Miller's tactics. They are legit too, haha, right...
Dakich will shit a brick if we get Langford.
jayballer73 said:
@truehawk93 It's not only Taco Bell but there were also signs from a sports bar called Hoopsters in Jeffersonville that said Romeo Langford - - Please choose IU - -Say no to Vandy stay home and wear the Candy - - -then another one from a body shop Couchs body shop saying - Romeo Langford please choose IU - so ya they all on it. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Maybe the FBI should investigate Taco Bell and Hoopsters for recruiting violations. This is undue influence and I think Taco Bell is worse than Adidas. Hoopsters may be influencing Langford with 1 yr supply of free lunches and dinners.
I'm kidding of course...
All eyes are focused on KU and DeSousa? All the recruiting experts are pissed they predicted him to Maryland and he chose KU?
Yet...Zion Williamson was predicted by the SAME recruiting experts to South Carolina, and yet he commits to Puke? Not one "expert," or investigator finds that ODD?
Zion can choose Puke and it's perfectly understandable, and DeSousa picks KU and the they investigate the Adidas shoe whore. They bring KU into question? Yet Coach K and Puke remain UNTOUCHABLE. Does anyone else see the bias? And yet the bball world is calling the "KU victim" claim bullshit? WOW...I can't wait to see how far these investigations go into other programs and how many other programs are "CAUGHT" from their shoe whores influencing recruits. I'm sick of this shit and KU getting crucified as a villain. These same haters better be concerned about their own favorite programs because they are next.
Of all the top bball programs in the country, and they want to try KU? I expect many more programs to be named. This is just the beginning. My guess is all the other programs have had chances to cover the bases with their "shoe whores." This reminds me of Shawshank when Red said everyone in prison was innocent. Andy said he had to go to prison to become a crook. This pretty much sums up bball.
I read how the Taco Bell was trying to recruit Langford to IU. They justified it as fanatic bball. It sounds like a desperate move to recruit Langford to Taco Bell rather than IU. I don't think a fast food chain has ever recruited a top recruit in any sport...It is a first.
What happened to Zona? Nothing from the NCAA. This is more about the shoe companies, not the players. NCAA will not touch schools or players.
Hell yeah, Silvio plays. This is pure bull crap. Its a damn conspiracy. Its ridiculous. I havent heard as much as a peep from the NCAA on these other issues. The NCAA says these are merely FBI investigations and they wont act.
I find the timing of this trash interesting. Why did they wait this close to Langford's announcement? Nice timing of someone trying to influence recruitment. I find it ironic. Adidas is suppose to influence recruits toward KU. But this article actually discourages him from KU. Haha...funny...I hope Langford and his dad sees through this shat.
BShark said:
@truehawk93 Next year is his JR year unless he redshirts. The rules are weird. Each of his half years count as a full year of eligibility but he still has a redshirt available.
Oh that's right, he did transfer from ASU.
Dunking is different than a layup. An athletic blocker will pin your layup almost 100% of the time. A fast break dunk is not a layup. A fast break dunk or flush is much more efficient and almost impossible to block.
Cunliffe can stay if he wants. He could play some back-up, mop, whatever. He might play more his junior or senior year. Meeotch is great for our bigs and he is good to bring in for 2-5 mins to give the bigs a quick breather. But he will be needed to run plays.
I was just thinking about an interesting player comparison. I realized the interesting styles between...
Keith Langford
Travis Releford
Wayne Selden
Ochai Agbagi
Pretty interesting when you watch the four. I don't think OA hasn't quite developed the outside shot that Selden and KL had, but their very interesting. I think Selden and Ochai have more power and strength. Releford and KL are similar. Just an interesting observation.
Although after watching the OA clip, he does have a nice stroke. Actually, the kid has some hops...dang...wonder what his vertical is?
NO...Moore seems score first, pass second. Unless he has learned with DG to pass then score. He better if he expects to thrive at pg and in Self's system. Dotson seems to be pass then score.
It's gonna be FUN watching all the same.
BigBad said:
Here is the thing. You are correct on the proper form of a layup, HOWEVER.....
Once you play at an elite level you MUST learn to go off the wrong foot and mix up your timing or you will always get your shot blocked. These kids are playing against the best at a younger age so they are learning this also at a younger age.
Also going off the "improper" leg makes it easier to jump into your defender and create contact and go shoulder to chest on a shot blocker.If you only make layups with the "proper" legs you will be easier to guard.
BUT...if the defender is on my right side and I'm right handed? I use my right hand from the left side of defender, jumping off my right foot? Doesn't that allow the defender to defend the ball better?
Whereas, if I use my LEFT hand, RIGHT leg/foot...ball away from the defender, who is on my right side/weak side, then use my body...I have a much better chance of an AND 1? IF I use your logic and jump right foot/leg, and use my right hand...the defender on my right side will eat the ball, not my body.
Same principle with Right hand, Left foot/leg when the defender is on my Left side...
Unless of course you're being facetious?
One request for all these ELITE players...would someone please teach these kids to use the right hands and legs on a layup. This is one of the most glaring deficiencies of many of these top players. I learned and it was tough for the longest time, because it's not dominate or natural. But it's the right thing.
Use the Left hand, and right foot for a LEFT hand lay-up.
Use the Right hand, and Left foot for a Right hand lay-up.
I know...it's tough and awkward, but much like a switch hitter or a South paw to use the Right hand...I remember learning as a RH pitcher, to turn toward 1st base for a 2nd base pick. It was AWKWARD, but once I learned and not step off with my right foot, and turn toward the runner or bag, my pick off ratio improved, and it looked better watching by my coaches. Remember Rocky? But when they learn and it becomes part of their game, it looks better watching, and it adds to their game. Again, if it's not broke, don't fix it...but just sayin.'
Bwag said:
@truehawk93 I think I was more impressed with QG passing highlights than Devon's
Most definitely...QG is a 6-4,5 pg. He's a humble Kobe Bryant caliber player....shhhh...don't tell him that, but something tells me he can handle the comparison.
Ochai reminds me of KLangford. I still think, no disrespect to OA at all, but a redshirt would allow him to adjust and come in his second season as maybe one of the most dominate players in bball. I think a redshirt would make him even better and more hungry. We just don't quite need him. I just don't see him sniffing the court if we get RLangford. Again, NOTHING against OA at ALL. Either way he'll be good, but let's face it, most of these recruits are playing against average to slightly below average competition accept on the AAU circuit.
Notice in the dunk drill at the line? He has to take a power dribble. To me, this is a bad habit that many college players create and it carries over into games. He has to grab, pivot, two step, and jam. The ball will be slapped out of his hand or poked everytime in the lane if he tries that in at the D1 level. I get it, it's a drill, but it creates mental habits that will likely translate into games. He's good, and will be a great player at the next level. I'd like to see him consider a RS, no real reason, KU will be stacked if we land Langford.
See the inbound play to OA? Much like a Self play...haha
Love the kid in the KU sweatshirt too.
DMac is a freakin' man-child...CRAP, he's gonna be a beast. If we keep Doke for 1 more yr, we will have the most dominate inside presence of CBB.
The one thing that jumps out to me is his short game. He's not bad 6-7 feet from the rim. He's got a nice touch away from the rim.
I might add from my earlier post that Garrett isn't too bad either. I think he will make a huge improvement into next year. Garrett handled the ball and his first year should provide some momentum for next season. Look for Garrett to become a taller and maybe more versatile Aaron Miles in the upcoming season. Garrett is such a quiet, fundamental, and steady contributor for this team.
Also, a correction to my earlier post. I realized he transferred from Cal not USC... :confused:
I also went back to review his time at Cal. He's a little like DG.
I watched a really good movie on Netflix titled, Amateur. A really good movie about a kid in 8th grade that gets caught up in the crazy world of young bball. In the end he takes control. It's a really good movie and must see.
jayballer73 said:
Well we just picked up another CB for Romeo - -by Jeff Ermann from the Maryland insider - - - gaining ground we are now like Vanderbilt 40% - -Indiana 35% and then us 25 % -in the past few days we have went from 11% - -to 16% - -to 21% and now like 25% - I'm wondering if something hasn't leaked
Haha...oh it's leaking big time. The word is out. The "bird is the word" for Langford.
Moore came with some hype from USC(?). I thought many had Moore pegged as the next pg after DG. It seems most on this board simply sees him as a solid backup pg to Dotson. We shall see exactly how quickly Dotson picks up the most important role in a fairly complex offense. I could see Moore buying Dotson some time to learn Self's system. We all know Self will baptize Dotson with fire during the pre-season. Dotson seems to fit Self's pg mold and Moore will simply be ready to supplement Dotson.
I will be curious to see where Dotson is as a pg when the first conference game rolls around. But, Self will rely on Grimes and Langford(?) to take some of the ball handling from Dotson. Let's hope Dotson comes in and learns immediately, and becomes a key piece to the offense. We will also see much more inside play too with our 4 and 5 too than last year. Doke saw a lot, but not nearly enough. The 4 is going to be another key to the offense. I hope Silvio and KandDLawson will be a huge threat at the 4. Our 4 was a non-factor or even present. This last year it was 1,2,3, and 5. We had 5 players but we had no 4 presence at all.
:rolling_eyes:
Wow...half the 14-16 yr olds in America would be charged with the same crime. I'm all for some type of discipline, but this is a little over the top. I don't condone, but someone got over zealous on this one.
I hope Self redshirts Ochai Agbaji. Garrett will be too important for leadership. He is a much more athletic version of Releford. Hopefully we pick up Langford. Langford and Grimes will provide firepower. Garrett should work on his shots this off season and become a bigger threat. At least I hope he will make teams respect him more. Dotson should hold his own and distribute. I hope Vick tests the waters and then jumps.
Dotson, Garrett, Grimes, DLaw, and Doke
Moore, Garrett, Langford, Silvio, and DMac
Garrett, Langford, Grimes, KLaw, and Doke
Moore, Garrett, Grimes, DLaw, and Doke
Moore, Garrett, Langford, DLaw, and Meeotch
Movin' On Up
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Haha...love his shoes. Crimson and Blue...they don't even match his uni.
KUSTEVE said:
Langford worries me. Things like this : https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/top-college-basketball-recruit-romeo-langfords-dad-rips-john-calipari-for-u-19-debacle/ ↗ ↗
He's fine. This is directed at Calipari. His dad is not Carl Henry crazy.
I'm gonna love Jacobs. This kid has swag and a healthy attitude. He's contagious baby.
BShark said:
Bossi came on a local radio show and predicted Indiana for Langford but also mentioned that Romeo's dad believes that Romeo "needs Self's coaching".
Bossi…this is hilarious. IU is the biggest joke. If he was going to IU, why would he go to give them one last chance? Why go for one last visit? Just pick them if they are your choice. This tells me IU is out.
It’s down to Vandy and KU. KU is leading and Langford is waiting on the paper to sign.
Jayhawks' Malik Newman could go in first round, NBA execs say
Ok...Vick? Cunliffe? Since Newman declared, that opens up pt for Romeo. Look for Romeo to commit once Vick jumps or Cunliffe transfers.
Come on Romeo, commit already. Self will work out the paper.
mayjay said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
If any of our guys but Devonte go in the first I’ll eat my shoes. Love them, but we didn’t have NBA talent this year.
Your shoes? or the players?
:confounded:
OUCH :face_palm_tone2:
Michigan learned from us what happens when you fail to play DEFENSE.
I actually forgot about the game. I don't care and figured Nova would win. I heard the CBS analyst gushing on Nova being a blueblood, which this blueblood thing is out of hand. I don't think NCs define bluebloods, which Nova has two(?) in the last few years, and they have a few more to get before they reach "blueblood" status. I think the difference in a great basketball program and a "blueblood" is something we hear all the time.
A great program rebuilds and it might take them 2-3 years to smell another NC, like Nova. A blueblood is a program that simply reloads and they smell a NC every year. Doesn't necessary mean they'll win, but they simply do not rebuild for 2-3 years, they reload with equal or better talent year in and out.
Doke has become more like Landen in many ways. He gives you some big tangibles in the paint. We all know his FTs need work, but this off season will provide FT time. His footwork in the paint and around the rim is so improved. He's not flashy or a short range shooter, but he provided big minutes and rebounds that we otherwise lost games.
Big Dave is going to have a learning curve just like Doke. I see him being foul prone. I do see DLaw and Silvio becoming pick and pop 4s. Doke and Dave can work the paint. Doke needed a lot of rest in many games, but we just didn't have the bigs and Big Dave will be an added relief. Meeotch is that glue that has carried the big man torch from LL, and is now passing it on to Doke and Big Dave. I like Meeotch sticking around as the big man glue and I credit him for coaching up Doke and Silvio. Our front court will finally have much needed depth and we won't have to rely on our back court to guard bigs. We were fortunate against Puke and it ran out against Nova. I see DLaw and Silvio matching much better with the Spellmans and the Paschalls. I see DLaw and Silvio being match-up nightmares.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
What about romeo’s Dad? Is he a problem?
Haha...only with UK and Calipari...love it.
I agree. I think Cunliffe is in the same boat as the big NAIA kid. Cunliffe, like CJ Henry (Southern Nazarene U, OKC), could go to an NAIA and be a phenom. Or he could sit the pine and get mop mins with KU, wasting paper.
Kcmatt7 said:
I think Vick is just going to get "forced" out. Or, really, the AWIII treatment. Self will tell Vick he is more than happy to have him back, providing he knows that he may very well end up coming off of the bench. From there, I think Vick and his camp will decide that he might as well leave and start making money now, because his draft stock is never going to hit potential first rounder at this point.
Someone will go and someone else will get squeezed. Vick has reached a ceiling.
SkinnyKansasDude said:
I think Malik declares, Vick stays and Cunliffe either redshirts or transfers and we do sign Romeo. I think Matt makes a good point that if he was leaning towards Indiana or Vandy he would have committed by now. I also believe he’s waiting to see who leaves KU. I personally would rather have either Vick or Newman stay than Romeo.
No...if Malik goes, I want Vick gone too. Vick may pull one over on everyone and stay if Malik jumps. Malik sounded resolute in post-interviews after the Nova loss. He seemed like he had things on his mind.
RockkChalkk said:
JayHawkFanToo said:
Svi and Devonté are seniors so they are gone. This leaves 13 players for the 13 (not 15) scholarships allowed. For Langford to join either Newman or Vick need to leave or maybe Cunliffe either leave or red shirt.
BTW, Doke is an Academic All-Conference rather than All-American.
Actually, i believe it leaves 14 players for the 13 spots. Did you count Lawson twice? As we stand now, at least one underclassmen must depart to have enough scholarships. If we want room for Langford, we need two to leave.
Lawsonx2 is both Lawsons
BShark said:
@truehawk93 I'm confused by your list. Svi and Graham are seniors.
I'm just listing them for clarity and accounting.
I still think RL picks KU. I was reading Big Dave's interview about RL. DMack said, "I don't know why he doesn't just pick KU..." Dotson, Grimes, McCormack, and RL will definitely want to take the team to the promised land. I don't know if I want to lose anyone. I really don't care what Vick does either way. I am more concerned about Newman. My ideal desire would be for Vick to leave, keep Newman, and to gain RL. I'm just not sure what Vick and Newman will do at this point. I definitely think they will be at the NBA combines. I want Langford one way or another. I'm just not sure at this point.
Garrett
Doke? I have a funny feeling he's back. He is an academic AA. He's not mentioned in any mock drafts either.
DeSousa
Moore
Lawsonx2
Meeotch
Dotson
Grimes
DMack
Obajai
Newman
Vick
Svi
DG
Cunliffe - transfer, like Whitman? He could go to a D2 school and tear it up.
Langford? If Cunliffe transfers, we could keep both Newman and Vick if they wanted to make another run.
Who am I missing? By this count, it makes 15 with Cunliffe, Vick, or Newman gone. If I chose between Vick and Cunliffe, I think Vick is better for chemistry. But, Langford will be looking at playing time. If Vick and Newman stay, Langford will go Vandy. So losing Cunliffe would not help with Langford. We may keep all and miss on Langford. If we want Langford, we will need Vick to declare. I would like Newman to stay.
He broke his freakin' orbital bone. Geesh, just a freak accident.
Wow, if they do this to us...hate to see what they will do to Michigan. I see a 20+ blow out in the NC game. I think it's safe to say that Nova will be the next NC. If they play at this level or higher, it's not going to be a game at all. Nova could have an average game and still win by a fair margin at this point. I was afraid of this possibility. Another team beat three B12 teams to the NC game...WVU, TT, and KU...wow...WOW. They beat our top three teams in the conference and the conference champion, conference tourney champion...WOW. I have no words.
Great season and couldn't have asked for more. They are a great team and special.
Michigan 70
Nova 99 (might even break the century mark)
I will be shocked if Michigan wins.
Pics of Nick Collison. It was great seeing him and speaking to him.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Conner Frankamp said he plans on signing with an agent soon and will pursue professional basketball opportunities. Isn't sure where yet, but he'll be a pro somewhere with that jump shot.
Connor Frankamp to the NBA? Umm, well...OK. If Sherron Collins struggled, don't see Frankamp even getting a sniff.
I admired him in high school.
Doubted him in college, and then he went to WSU.
He now says he will try the NBA? OK...good for him. :pray: :rolling_eyes:
Here's my response to these who have declared...
I went to the Nuggets and Thunder game tonight in OKC with my son. I was watching Collison working on various shots and moves. He left the court toward the Thunder tunnel and grabbed a sharpie from security to sign autographs.
Of course I made my way just a few rows from our seat. Thunder fans crowded along the rail to get his attention, waiting with various items for him to sign.
I found a small opening and caught his attention by saying, "Rock Chalk Nick!" He smiled and responded back, "Rock Chalk!" I asked, "Are they going to do it again this year?" To which he replied, "I think they can..." I thanked him and went back to my seat. As I walked away, many Thunder fans began calling out, "Rock Chalk Nick...Rock Chalk...!" They weren't a truehawk. As I walked away to my seat, I turned and watched him wrap up
his session by giving high fives entering further into the tunnel.
What a great night, and hopefully it's a great sign for tomorrow. It's weird to see Nick Collison and Carmelo Anthony playing on the same team. I'll try to post some pics of Collison going through his pre-game shooting exercise.
I explained the significance of that experience. My son said, "Dad, I'm going to take this program, autograph, tickets, and put them on the bulletin board in my room." I was truly proud that my son got to have that experience with me on this night. Incidentally, he is crazy about Frank Mason and DG.
kjayhawks said:
This is why people outside of the east coast hate ESPN, FF week that Dook isn’t in, yet here they are all over the ESPN MBB home page like they already won the title next season.
Yep...Coach K getting press for beating Cal at his own OAD game. WOW...UN-FREAKIN'-BELIEVEABLE
ESPN headliner McD AA event- This is stupid. My guess is he hurt it, sprung, broke or maybe fractured it. He showboats and he needs to calm down. He's lucky all that got hurt was the hand. I do hope the best for the young man.
Williamson goes to locker room with hand injury.After falling awkwardly on his right hand, future Duke player Zion Williamson comes up grabbing his hand in pain.
I don't know about JWright, but the 2008 provided the blueprint to attack JWright...
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