Not only that but gives the teams a chance to play at AFH which helps them with recruiting. All in all a great way to help the smaller programs in the state.
JayHawkFanToo
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approxinfinity said:
Don't want my conservative buddies blind to how theyre being seduced by their conservative media.
...and I don’t want my liberal buddies blind on how they are bring played by practically the entire MSM.
BTW, you forgot to mention that Margot Cleveland is also an adjunct law instructor at Notre Dame. Also, similar analysis by “legal experts” are all over, on all sides of the spectrum. The truth is that with each passing day and now that emotions are down, her testimony looks less and less credible. As I mentioned before, I believe that both Ford and Kavanaugh were used as pawns by politicians and they are both victims.
Nice try but no cigar. The article I cited on USA Today summarizes pretty much what I posted...and the article was written by a lawyer, and a woman at that, so, she must not be nearly as smart or knowledgeable as you and likely a woman hater to boot.
As far as stating that the presumption of inocence which is one of the cornerstones of our judicial system is flawed analysis which I believe is what you said since that was the only legal issue I mentioned, then you must believe the accuser is presumed to be telling the truth and accused is presumed guilty that would true only in totalitarian countries such as Cuba or North Korea or maybe the military system operates that way although I seriously doubt it does. I just don’t know how to answer that.
I am sure you are familiar with the Blackstone's formulation which is the principle that:
"It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer",
...as expressed by the English jurist William Blackstone in his seminal work, Commentaries on the Laws of England, published in the 1760s.
Historically, the details of the ratio have varied, but the message that government and the courts must err on the side of innocence has remained constant.
From Wikipedia...
While compiling his highly influential set of books on English common law, William Blackstone expressed the famous ratio this way:
“All presumptive evidence of felony should be admitted cautiously; for the law holds it better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent party suffer.”
This variation was absorbed by the British legal system, becoming a maxim by the early 19th century. It was also absorbed into American common law, cited repeatedly by that country's Founding Fathers, later becoming a standard drilled into law students all the way into the 21st century.
Other commentators have echoed the principle; Benjamin Franklin stated it as, "it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer".
I just find it interesting that you let your bias cloud your judgement and turn it into something personal. I am not going to resort to personal attacks.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@JayHawkFanToo selective? You never say anything about HIS lies, he is the one trying to get a job. You called it nonsense!
I am not sure what your HS or college experience was but my friends and I, at both places, had a number of expressions that were unique to our group and unless you were familiar with how the expression originated you would not know what we were talking about. I can give you a number of examples and some of them are something we would not mention in mixed company, only among ourselves. As free spirited as we were in the 70s and 80s we were still respectful of women.
Here is an example we are all familiar. Jaybate used to post all this empty posts with only the words "back fill" until it was pointed out to him what the slang meaning of the word was. I honestly do not think he intended it that way but it happened.
So, at least Kavanoaugh seems to have a somewhat plausible explanation for those 3 word that you seem to obsess over; however, you don't seem at all concerned about all the...shall we say "discrepancies" in her testimony. There is plenty of evidence to prove that she flat out lied in her testimony.
You seem to think that women are incapable of lying or filing false charges but it happens a lot more often than you think, particularly since the federal government has made extremely difficult for an accuser to defend himself against these allegations in college campuses. Here is a link ↗ that provide some details, here ↗ is a another.
Frankly, her whole story has come unglued and in many ways she is as much a victim of the liberals as Kavanaugh was.
Here is the link ↗ to the story itself.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@JayHawkFanToo you missed my point! He lied! My kids wouldn't under oath! That nonsense you speak of, he lied about, under oath, so stop talking to me about it!
With all due respect, that is your opinion and mine is different and what you call non-sense, some of us call it facts. Again, read my post to @mayjay and read the link I provided, she has lied and lied and lied...pardon me...her recollection has changed...when new information became available that did not fit her original or even the modified narrative and yet I don't hear a peep about it from you. Selective indignation much?
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@JayHawkFanToo my husband died at a young age and my boys aren't that old. I can tell you that they would never ever talk to a lady that way. They would never write those sexual terms down anywhere for people to see. If they were under oath they wouldn't lie about those sexual terms. It seems like the whole world knew those words, 'cept @mayjay and me. They are not rich frat boys that have had everything handed to them. No beach weeks! They are far from perfect, but they respect other people. If there is an investigation we do have lots of witnesses, I hope they talk to them!
I am sorry about your husband but you missed my point. I was just using an example that could happen to any man in today's environment.
Like I said, what do you think you would do if 20 or 30 years from now someone makes allegations about one of you kids when you know they are not capable of that and never have been before...because you know how they were raised. Would you tell them to not defend themselves?
As far as words on yearbook is nothing more than non-sense. I chose not to be in my HS or College yearbook because a lot of what was written, particularly in HS, was pure nonsensical braggadocio and I found it to be silly and I wanted no part of it.
People that act that way towards women do not stop and every woman that has worked for him has supported him and indicated they have never see him be anything other than a perfect gentleman. This does not match at all the image of Kavanaugh that they expect us to believe.
As far as being rich frat boys, read my post to @mayjay. She attended the most exclusive women's HS in the Washington DC area just like Kavanaugh and as far as having everything handed to him, finishing at the top of his class in HS and College is not something that was handed out to him, it is something that he worked hard to achieve, particularly at a top Ivy League school.
I just don't get why people want to destroy somebody's career and reputation just because he was appointed by Trump. Sotomayor and Kegan are a lot farther to the left than Kavanaugh is to the right and while many republicans did not vote for them, they did it for ideological reasons and did not try to personally destroy them either.
Look at this video ↗ to get a different perspective along the lines of what I was talking.
You have got ot admit that professor Blasey Ford stretches the limits of credibility to a point where her entire testimony is suspect.
Her story has changed repeatedly to fit the new information available and no one dares call the proverbial "the emperor has no clothes" for fear of being labeled anti-women or as the hosts from the show The View called anyone that doubts her story a racist...really? racist?
Just about every detail of her testimony has changed starting from the assertion that it happened in the mid 80s when she was in her late teens to 1982 when she was 15 when she realized Kavanaugh would have been in college at the time. She does not remember how she got there or how she got home and apparently left her best friend with men that allegedly tried to rape her; this defies logic. Back then there were no cell phones and she has no explanation whatsoever. The Bethesday Chevy Chase area is very large and you generally cannot walk from one place to another.
I don't know if you are familiar with Bethesda- Chevy Chase area. My family moved to Bethesda in 1971 and stayed there until the late 90s when they sold the house. I personally lived in Bethesda during the early 70s and I am very familiar with the area and the prep school environment having my sister attended Ursuline Academy (now closed) in Bethesda in the late 70s early 80s and my younger brother went to St John's College HS in Washington DC in the early 80s or right around the time of the alleged incident; all my nephews attended Gonzaga HS in DC and DeMatha HS. While these are very exclusive schools, they don't even come close to Holton Arms which is the most expensive women's prep school in the DC area with a tuition of $54K per year and whose famous alumni include Susan Ford, daughter of then President Ford who was famous (or infamous) for being rude to her secret service detail and continuously sent them on fast food runs; it is even more expensive than Sidwell Friends HS (where the Obama kids went). The only prep school more expensive is St. Albans (where Al Gore went) which has a tuition of over $60k per year. So, this is not like she was a girl from the wrong side of the tracks that was groped by a rich kid and could not get justice. If you attend Holton Arms, your parents are loaded and I mean LOADED and extremely well connected otherwise you just don't get in.
The polygraph that you cited early is a joke by any standard. She was asked to hand write a statement which she changed several times crossing numbers and fact and replacing with others. The two questions asked were:
- Did you write that statement?
- Do you believe it to be true?
Really? That is it? No probative questions that would determine the veracity or lack thereof of her allegations were asked; she does not even remember if the process was being video taped. The favorable treatment by the rent-a-polygrapher made they referees calling Duke game look like pikers.
The boyfriend she dated for 6 years indicated she did not have any fear of flying and even flew small propeller planes for travel around the world. He also indicated that she never mentioned any thing about the alleged assault and also indicated she coached a friend on how to pass polygraphs. Se has co-authored a paper on retrieving memories using hypnoses, an area that is highly controversial and known to be extremely unreliable.
As far as her alleged post traumatic issues, she never had any while finish her last two years in high school and conveniently showed up years later in college. Here therapist notes which she shared with Washington Post but would not share with the Senate show different key details than those in her story. She indicated that in 2012 she wanted to install a second door for security due to her ongoing issues but permit records from her home town showed that the remodeling permit was issued in 2008 and the second door was designed to give separate access to an area of the house she wanted to rent. So much for that.
Also, her friend that would not corroborate her story was contacted by her attorneys and pressured to change her testimony and the most she did was to indicate that as a friend, she believed that something might have happened to her at some place in time but would still not corroborate the party in question and still denied even knowing Kavanaugh, let alone being in a very small party with him
Here is a nice summary ↗ in USA Today, by no means a conservative publication.
All the information cited above can be easily verified via google search.
As an attorney you must be dismayed when now the accuser is to be believed and the accused is presumed to be guilty and it is the job of the accused to prove a negative, something that cannot be done. This is not how it is supposed to work.
BTW, Blasey Ford has now indicated she is stopping all proceeding and does not want Kavanaugh impeached or removed, WOW.
Frank Mason was a SG in HS and a volume scorer but his role changed at KU and worked out great for him.
I am pretty high on Moore. He will be the starting PG but Dotson will likely take over somewhere in the season but no doubt Moore will see substantial playing time. Nice to have a PG that can step in at any time with little or no drop in team performance.
Thread is getting very long, may a new thread?
Kcmatt7 said:
The only thing that sucks is I know Bill will never have someone besides Dotson or Moore at PG. Which really ruins several of my fantasy lineups where we don't have a player on the floor under 6'4 lol
Grimes played PG for the USA team coached by Bil Self at the Under 18 Tournament and he did great, MVP of the Tournament.
KUSTEVE said:
@BShark If Silvio isn't able to play, it wouldn't surprise me to see the Lawsons playing the front line almost every game for portions of the game.. I thot it was telling they used KJ as a big in late night, and he played exceptionally well. He has really bulked up, and looks almost as big as MM.
MM as in Mark Mangino? Boy, that is really BIG!!! :smiley:
Yep. Every investigation that clears Kavanaugh is a sham. Got it.
If the FBI investigation was such a sham, why is it the Senator Feinstein wanted it classified so no one else would see it?
Now, if your husband or one of your kids is ever in a similar situation where an uncorroborated, very serious, 35 year old allegation is brought up against him and that you all know to be false, what would you advice them to do? Sit there like potted plant and take the savage attack or fight vigorously to clear his reputation and good name? I don't know what is in your heart or mind so I don't pretend to know what you would do...I only know what I would do. Are you familiar with the "A sack full of feathers" story? This is exactly what happened and regardless of how many investigations clear him, Kvanaugh's name will forever be tarnished.
You always seem to indicate than when any non-liberal source publishes something it is misrepresenting facts but when CNN or other liberal publications do it they are telling the truth even when CNN has had to walk back or correct stories numerous times recently because they were misrepresented or incorrectly reported. Your double standard is dizzying, to say the least.
Now, you say that Kavanaugh should not be confirmed because of his temperament...let me ask you this, if you are ever in a position like Kavanaugh and someone from your HS days makes an unfounded and unverifiable accusation that you know is not true, how upset would you be and how hard would you defend yourself? I don't know about you abut I would defend myself vigorously.
Now, here is another ↗ that you can judge for yourself that explains the entire fiasco. There is a link to the recording so you don't have to believe me or rely on anyone else misreporting. I can almost predict your answer will be...do you believe me or your lying ears? :smile:
I would be surprised if Nike even wants to bid; it already has the big Mid West football programs under contract and while KU is Adidas’ flagship program it would not be Nike’s. That is not to say that Nike would not want to take Adidas top program but not at what Adidas pays, particularly when the football program is in such poor shape.
In any case, KU would be going from one corrupt shoeco to another.
I saw @nuleafjhawk post the same way you did, nothing more than a clever word play.
For a long time we have hearing from Jaybate how bad of a coach Miller is but reality is that Miller is a very good coach that has been successful everywhere he has coached. Look at his record and form your own opinion.
I see a possible one time NCAA general amnesty in the future. If the NCAA punished everyone involved they might have to cancel the season or seasons.
Agreed. Let all potential candidates the job is officially open.
I hate it when lazy reporters keep writing that money was paid to Silvio when there is zero evidence of that having happened. The money was allegedly paid/given to his guardian, Fenny Falmagne, and there is no evidence that I know that Silvio knew about it. Likely scenario is that Silvio indicated he wanted to attend Kansas which had been his first choice and at that time his guardian told him...we might have a problem since I have told Maryland you would be going there st which time Silvio said fix it and Falmagne went to Adidas.
The question is do you penalize the kid for the dealings of the guardian? More importantly, do you penalize KU who apparently did not know anything about it?
Preston’s case is different insofar as the entire family knew about the payment and publicly, and I will guess privately as well, denied it. KU cannot be penalized for something it did not know...and Billy never played an official game for KU. Maybe MU will demand the exhibition game is forfeited to them because Billy played...:smile:
I agree. I have said for a long time that as long as the income is declared and the government gets its cut no laws are broken. Yes, lots of NCAA rules were broken but no crime committed by the mere act of giving and/or taking money. Now, if the money used for the payments was acquired by non legit means and taxes were not paid then that could be an issue;remember they got Al Capone for tax evasion and not for all the other crimes he committed.
As you know, there is no constitutional requirement that a Supreme Court Justice be a lawyer; the only requirements are that he be nominated by the president and approved by the Senate.
All of the past justices have been lawyers although not all had law degrees since in th early days of the republic there were not many law schools and a law degree was not a requirement to be admitted to the bar, the requirement was to "read" the law and to learn under the tutelage of a practicing attorney. Many justices had not been judges either with notables examples being John Marshall, William Rehnquist, and Earl Warren.
It would be extremely difficult, practically impossible, for a non-lawyer to be nominated and confirmed by the Senate; the only possible exception would be a law professor that is not a member of the bar. So, technically the number of candidates is quite large but in practice the number is actually extremely small.
When you think about it, it is amazing that in what is considered to be an enlightened society a sport that violent still exist in its current form. Numerous studies have documented the long term negative effects of the many hits players are exposed; some younger players are walking away from the game after a couple of years citing the risk. Players are getting bigger, faster and stronger and the risks are increasing as well. Too much money at stake so the sport will be around for a while; very few players would make the money they make doing anything else other than football.
When the NFL plays in Europe, players are seen as gladiators walking into the arena risking their lives; perhaps an accurate description albeit one that many fans will not even consider.
It is only fair since Elway did it to the Chiefs and other teams many, many times. Karma is a beotch.🤪
The original indictment listed KU as one of the victims although I seriously doubt KU sees itself this way. Recruiting is like the proverbial “making sausages,” you might like the final product but you really don’t want to see how it is done. All programs are aware that top recruits might not be without baggage but I am sure they see it as the cost of doing business and there is always the chance something negative might come out. KU did not play Preston at all and the NCAA cleared Silvio so KU has a pretty strong and defensible case. I will guess that testimony by KU personnel would not help the prosecution case so I seriously doubt anyone from KU will testify and KU will be mentioned only as a potential victim.
approxinfinity said:
@JayHawkFanToo i read the report. I have to say, it is a pretty clear indictment of Rachel Mitchell as a hack.
This quote bothers me a lot, I'm a stickler for quotes actually being quotes. And unless Leland Keyser talks about herself in the third person, this is not accurate:
I posted a reply a few minutes ago but it seems to have vanished...🤔
First, I commend you on at least reading the report before drawing conclusions on the report and not drawing conclusions on my thinking since I did not express any thoughts on the subject, pro or con.
As far as your concern, the letter and sworn affidavit was written to the senate by Leland Keyser’s attorney, so it would be correct for him to refer to her in the third person.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@JayHawkFanToo I already have mine! Drawn several conclusions from your posts.
You must be a mind reader since this is the first time have posted on this thread and subject.
Read the entire report ↗ and draw your own conclusions.
Congrats on the new arrival and future Jayhawk fan.🍾🎉
He might not be a OAD but if he is as good as some think he is, he likely does not stay all 4 years and if he does he is just another role player not really worth all the hype.
Rich Rod had a great stint at West Virginia but things went south after that. At Michigan he was a disaster not only compiling overall and conference losing records (15–22, 6–18) but also raking up a number of NCAA violation that landed Michigan in hot water with the NCAA and forced it into a number of self imposed penalties. At Arizona his record is pedestrian by big programs standards ( KU's record is abysmal by the same standard).
Rich Rod would no question be a big improvement over what we have now but he comes with a lot baggage of the bad kind and we would have to hold our collective nose and look the other way. In comparison, Gus Malzahn would be a gift from heaven.
jayballer73 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
This is the definition of a slimeball.
https://zonazealots.com/2018/09/03/arizona-womens-basketball-offers-sister-of-zeke-nnaji/ ↗
Arizona offers sister of Zeke.
hmmmmmmmmmmm, boy now their is a shock huh lol - - -she must be a REALLY good player too lmao - - Go figure . ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Shocked that KU and Purdue also offered? She is 6'1" entering her HS freshman year and a top rated prospect for the 2022 class and she already has a number of offers from big programs and will not be in school at the same time as her brother. Much ado about nothing.
kjayhawks said:
Positive from today, we have a QB folks.
Negative from today, most everything else is still the same.
How about Tyler Self? He made sure his dad would stay for at least 5 years at KU. :smiley:
...hopefully a better player than Sam who was...I guess he still is...a great athlete.
I might also add that if you are using an iPad or tablet in portrait mode only one panel shows and the right panel that normally shows what the post will look is not there; however, if you turn the iPad to the landscape mode both panels show and you can see exactly how the post will display. I do this frequently when I cut and paste or load stored photos/graphics and want to see how the finish post will display.
jayballer73 said:
Sorry. some of us just aren't as edcuated
It was nothing personal. Board/forums vary quite a bit so many posters are not aware of the idiosyncrasies of specific sites.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@JayHawkFanToo because they have smaller hands
...but the hoop itself is the same size as the men’s hoop; big advantage.
Your posts are very difficult to read since lines merge together. It is very easy to separate lines by either leaving a blank line in between or adding a “-“ and a space at the beginning of the line.
Without blank line or dash+space the lines merge:
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Using blank lines in between:
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Using a dash+space
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See? Pretty easy.
They already use a smaller ball than the men which makes it easier to score.
I agree. The contract extension was done solely to show program stability but unlikely he finishes that contract. He already had a cancer scare and he should really concentrate on enjoying his family and retirement. My guess is tha in the next couple of years he will “resign/retire” while his contract is fully honored and KSU will move with a HC that will not be his son.
Don't forget that KU paid Mangino as well. Recently KU has paid more coaches not to coach than coached to actually coach.
KSU makes considerably more than KU in tickets sales and football revenues in general.
I did not mention Venables so perhaps your post was meant for someone else.
Having said that, KSU football make considerably more than KU football and if KU can afford to pay the current HC and also former coaches (are those payments finally over???) then KSU can afford at least one million or two over what it pays Snyder...that ought to get a pretty decent coach. :smiling_imp:
I remember reading the same thing. It is kind i sad that as much as Snyder has done for the KSU football program now he feels he owns it.
He retired and came back and dictated terms for everything, has the stadium named after him and even owns the rights to the Powercat logo (and royalties) which I still find it difficult to understand how this happened, and now, he is willing to ruin his legacy just to get his son named HC; he would be better off getting him a generous buyout and move on. If he continues to insist on his terms and the programs goes down, all the good works he has done and his own legacy and good will with the fan base will be undoubtedly damaged, maybe beyond repair.
There are several coaches that got their start as assistants at KSU under Snyder and some have been fairly successful. The KSU football program is very profitable. a lot more so than KU, and I would think they can be very competitive salary wise with other major programs. The problem is recruiting to Manhattan, something that even Snyder with all his success has not done; however, he has been very successful finding lower ranked players that developed into very good players and no question he is a really good coach.
Snyder want his son to take over but the school wants to look at other options. He will coach as long as the school refuse to give the HC job to his son.
BShark said:
@approxinfinity He might eat Dean Wade.
As long as Wade stays 8’ away from the basket he is safe...and Wade likes to play outside so he will be pretty safe.:smiling_imp:
Seems like a pretty good group of players attending, any predictions about anyone signing?