Can't see a good angle, Lee looked like he had the arm though.
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Hopefully defense holds them to a FG.
Blown coverage on that play.
At least we have a good punter.
Too predictable on 3rd and long today. Screen every time. A draw play to Herbert would be a good mix up.
Dom Williams not having a good half so far.
Hasan Defense with a stupid play there.
@Gorilla72 I haven't really seen a good shot of the crowd to get a good estimate of the crowd.
@kjayhawks Herbert is a great complimentary back to Pooka. Herbert is a very good back, but he doesn't have the game breaking speed Pooka has.
I do like finally seeing play action. I'll never understand why Beaty didn't utilize it much more last year.
Power I has been the best offense so far today.
I would put MacVittie out there now to see if he could spark the offense.
@Kcmatt7 My biggest reason is because you have to have a huge nose tackle and it's very rare to have a true two gap NT in college. Most DT's just aren't big enough in college to be effective at the role.
It can work in the NFL because guys are much more physically developed and can focus on building the mass to be effective.
I've never been a huge fan of the 3-4 or any 3 man front on defense. Too easy to open up running lanes to me.
That didn't look like a forward pass on that replay. Looked like half a yard backwards. Hopefully ref determines not enough evidence to overturn the call.
@BShark Miles has also always been someone who preferred a run heavy Power I. That's why he could never consistently beat Saban.
So far, there's definitely a much stronger Koenning influence than Miles influence with the offense so far. There's still a little bit of the "I", but not the majority of the offense which is a good sign.
@kjayhawks Stanley has had one good game in his career. Stanley was given every opportunity to win the job, but his arm strength, awareness, and decision making have always been sub par.
Stanley is definitely more mobile than Bender ever was, but he also got sacked a higher rate than Bender ever did.
I've never claimed Bender was elite, but once Bender stopped having to look over his shoulder last year, he played solid football and gave that team some good chances to win some games.
Stanley has always seemed like a better fit as a back up QB to me.
7-0 Kansas at the end of the 1st quarter.
ISU with 56 yards on 17 plays. 4 first downs with 9:34 TOP.
KU with 52 yards on 9 plays with 2 first downs and 5:26 TOP.
Khalil Herbert has been solid so far.
I will say that Carter Stanley winning the QB job isn't a great sign for the position this year. We've seen over the past 3 years what Stanley is and that's nothing special. He's been given every opportunity to succeed, but has never been able to impress.
Hopefully Torry Locklin can progress enough to take over later this year because he has all the tools to be a very good QB for KU.
About half way through the 1st quarter.
Carter Stanley came out as the starter.
Liam Jones missed a 49 yard FG wide left.
Hasan Defense with a pick 6 to put KU up 7-0.
Offense looked good on first drive.
Defense has been decent so far.
It can be difficult to do a true comparison between Lawson and Silvio because their skill sets are vastly different. My main comparison is that Lawson was a well refined player with a a well rounded offensive game. Lawson could score from any level from in close to the mid-range to the perimeter. Silvio isn't there yet with the development of his offensive game. Unless Silvio has range we don't know about yet, he's a non factor on the perimeter to hit an outside shot.
I think Silvio can eventually get there with his range, but I don't see it happening in 2019-20 for him though.
On the defensive end, it's not close that Silvio is the better player compared to Lawson because of Silvio's athleticism. It'll take time for Silvio's offensive game to develop because he's still relatively new to the game of basketball.
@nuleafjhawk That's why Beaty is no longer coach. Last year's team was 4 or 5 plays away from being a bowl team. Beaty did upgrade the talent, but he wasn't a good enough head coach to take full advantage of that upgraded talent he brought in.
My Astros are winning another World Series this year. Nobody can touch their rotation.
E:60 this morning showed a clip on Miles that was from the series. I'm looking forward to Thursday.
Also if anyone saw College Gameday on Saturday, Desmond Howard predicted KU to go to a bowl game this year. I really don't think it's that crazy of a notion this year although I don't think KU will quite get there this season. KU was just a handful of plays away last season from going bowling, so I don't think it's that crazy to say that a better coaching staff could get there this season even with the personnel losses in the front 7 on defense.
Upgrading the talent level is something Beaty probably will never get the credit he deserves in that area, but he did a fantastic job with his resources to upgrade the talent level within the program. I know some are still going to rip the scholarship numbers, but I said when Beaty was hired that fixing the scholarship number mess was a 2 full recruiting cycles job. What Weis did that kept it from being just a 1 cycle fix was that he screwed the class balance to where there were alternating classes of 25+ seniors followed by sub 15+ senior classes. That's why Beaty had to go JuCo and blue shirt heavy in a couple of classes, to try and get those senior classes more balanced which he did for the most part. Last year was a blow to that process because the uncertainty around his future killed his recruiting ability for the 2019 class, but that's not as damaging as what Weis did in his short time here. With Beaty largely fixing the class balance issues that Weis created, now Miles can finish getting the scholarship numbers back to normal levels which should happen after this next 4 year recruiting cycle is done.
I hope this show is more than a one season deal because Miles is one of the top 5 most interesting coaches in the country. I'm also looking forward to the HBO show that's going to follow Washington St. around because Mike Leach is the most interesting coach in the country to me and I hope that show follows him away from coaching as well to see his outside interests.
@drgnslayr The issue with not having a couple of reliable three point shooters is that defenses can pack the paint against KU to take away drives. We saw it last year that without reliable outside shooting (especially after Vick was removed from the equation), KU had extended runs where they struggled to get good looks and would have a 4-5 minute stretch where they didn't make a FG.
I'm not saying this team should jack them up like the teams from 2016-2018 did because KU doesn't have multiple guys capable of hitting 42% and above on a near nightly basis. This is why Isaiah Moss is so key for KU this year, he's the guy that can force defenses to be honest because he can knock down 3's, even if he's not the most consistent guy. I also think Dotson is the other high minute guy that can knock down near 40% this year. I don't really know what to expect from Agbaji this year in terms of shooting. It seems like he was pretty good before his shin issues, but I could be off on that. I'll be happy if he's at 35% this year. Having reliable outside shooters will also help Garrett out on offense quite a bit because that'll keep teams from doubling him on drives which is his biggest strength on that end of the floor.
I'm very curious to see how this team looks on offense this year because the possibility of this team regressing on offense is real to me. Moss is a very similar type of player to Vick on offense so that's a push at that spot to me. Silvio is a downgrade on offense from Lawson. I honestly don't know if any of the freshmen are going to see significant minutes this year once Self trims the rotation.
Defensively, this team should be much better because Moss and Silvio are much better defenders than Vick and Lawson were along with getting Grimes out of there. I genuinely don't see the offense being significantly better this year, but the defense should be quite a bit better and make the offense look like they're much improved.
My one concern with team chemistry is with Isaiah Moss. Not in regards to being a team cancer because there's nothing to indicate that. My concern is that he wasn't on campus this summer getting those scrimmage reps with his new teammates building on court chemistry. I know he and Dotson have played together before so it shouldn't take long for them to click, but he's never played with the other players and I'd be willing to bet we see some miscommunication early on with Moss because of that. I don't expect that to be a season long issue, but I think it will be an issue probably until sometime around Christmas break.
I know some will take my being critical of some areas as me being down on this team, but I think this a team more than capable of making a run to Atlanta this year. The only team that I think has a higher ceiling than this team is Michigan State.
The key for this team is keeping Doke healthy. If Doke stays healthy all year, this team will go to Atlanta. Even as flawed as last season's team was, they beat several really good teams while Doke was healthy. I know Dotson is hugely important as well, but I think Dotson's more replaceable on this team than Doke is.
@nuleafjhawk Racism is still very common in the south, it just doesn't look like what it did 50+ years ago before the Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act, and other associated legislation from the JFK/LBJ administrations.
It's much more subtle and institutionalized these days for the most part. An example I can give is standardized testing. Here in Texas, our standardized state test is called the STAAR test. A survey of the STAAR test found that the reading level is typically 2-3 years above grade level meaning that a 7tg grade STAAR test is written at a 9th or 10th grade level. I teach at in a Title One district where most kids reading levels are considered below grade level.
At one of my staff development trainings earlier this month, a video was played illustrating what this looks like. It was a white boy, white girl, black boy, and black girl lined up on a track to race. When the starter fired the gun, the white male took off, the other three had to wait behind a wall. As years passed along, eventually the white girl was allowed to start, but had some hurdles to clear while the white boy was running unimpeded. The two black people still hadn't left the starting block yet. Neither black person left until the year reached 1865 and then they still all kinds of different obstacles to clear until the year reached 1965.
There has been more racial progress made in this country in the past 55 years than in the previous 350 years prior and there's still a lot of work to do.
@nuleafjhawk The strength and conditioning program was recently reassigned and no longer reported to KU Athletics. She may not have a been a fan of that change or her new bosses.
$$$ is also likely a factor as she'll be able to do more outside business in Austin than in the Lawrence/KC area.
It sucks she's leaving, but there's definitely more to it than simply a change of scenery.
@stoptheflop Not really, Indiana State went 7-4 last season so they aren't some scrub FCS team.
I think the line against Coastal Carolina will be a little bit bigger, probably a 7 point spread or so.
David Beaty did a fantastic job of getting the program pointed in the right direction and made significant progress in upgrading the talent in the roster.
Miles has said the team is further along than he expected which is a positive sign. I think with some positive breaks, this team could go bowling this year. They were only a handful of plays away last year from getting to a bowl game. I would say it's more likely this team makes a bowl game than regresses this year.
@stoptheflop All it shows is that KU still doesn't have the answer at QB. MacVittie doesn't have a lot of accuracy and Stanley doesn't have good field awareness.
The running game is the strength of the offense, but neither of the potential starting QB's has much of a reputation as a passer so teams are going to stack the box against KU a lot.
The advantage MacVittie has is that he is a good runner, but we don't know how well he can read defenses to execute the zone read which has always been a staple of Les Koenning's offenses. I'm suspecting MacVittie isn't great at reading defenses otherwise I think he would have already been named the starter.
I will also say that it's pretty common to not name a starter, publicly at least, when there isn't a returning QB in place.
That's a huge blow for the basketball program.
@FarmerJayhawk The NCAA doesn't say I'm wrong because you are misrepresenting what I said.
If McKinstry wants to play both football and basketball in college, he can. Because his primary sport is football, that's what he would be on scholarship for. If he truly wants to play both sports, he's going to have to get permission from his football coach to play basketball as well. Programs like Alabama and Auburn which are recruiting him the hardest probably won't let him play both sports.
I'll go ahead and give you two specific examples. The first is Kyler Murray. The reason he transferred to Oklahoma from Texas A&M was because OU would also allow him to play baseball while in school. Other schools weren't going to do that. So again, if McKinstry wants to play both football and basketball in college, his decision on where he goes will largely be influenced by schools where the football and basketball will allow him to walk on the basketball team after football season is over with.
Another high profile example is former Texas Longhorn and current San Francisco 49er Marquise Goodwin. Goodwin went to Texas on a football scholarship, but also won two NCAA long jump national championships and went to the 2012 London Olympics while still at UT.
@FarmerJayhawk A player counts for whatever sport he accepted the scholarship in. it's actually not that rare of an occurrence. It's fairly common to see a football player also run track. You also see football players play baseball as well on a fairly regular basis.
You said you would eat a basketball scholarship with him to have him play football. What you implied is that he would come to KU on basketball scholarship and be a walk on for football which is what my response was based on.
If the kid wants to play both sports at the collegiate level, then having Miles allow him to walk on with basketball the way Sosinski did awhile back could give KU a leg up in possibly landing the kid if Auburn, Bama, or any other program recruiting him wouldn't allow him to play both.
@FarmerJayhawk That would be a waste of a scholarship if he's only a walk on caliber basketball player. 2021 is already shaping up to be a high volume recruiting class for Self and that would do nothing but hurt that recruiting class.
If he wants to play both sports, that's fine, but football is where his future is at so he needs to be on a football scholarship, then come over to basketball when the football season is over with.
Putting the kid on a basketball scholarship means he would be done with football in October when basketball practice starts up which would be a waste of his talents since he's a top DB in that class.
HighEliteMajor said:
Texas Hawk 10 said:
If Christian Braun is as productive as Tyrell Reed or Brady Morningstar over the course of his KU career, I'll take that right now.
That’s a pretty low bar. VCU says thank you.
Ignoring that KU also missed 13 FT's in that VCU game and collectively shot 35% from the field, but clearly losing that game was the fault of one player and not the other 5 who played big minutes that game also shitting the bed as well.
Is a 3 star recruit at KU that earns 1st team all-defense as a senior, honorable mention all-Big 12 as a senior, shoots 42% from 3 for his career, and is a multi-year starter really a low bar for Braun by the time he leaves KU? The only reason KU recruited this kid is because he's a local kid. If he's from anywhere else but KC, KU isn't even looking at him.
You also need to stop blaming Brady for that VCU loss because the entire team, including Self, had a bad night that night, not just Brady.
If Christian Braun is as productive as Tyrell Reed or Brady Morningstar over the course of his KU career, I'll take that right now.
@dylans Astros don't have the funds to compete with top spending clubs. The Grienke deal means now that the Astros won't be able to keep Gerritt Cole this off-season when he hits the market. The Astros have always been a medium market franchise. Houston is the 7th biggest TV market (not 4th like you claim) behind 3 markets with multiple franchises.
Based on your criteria of defining team success related to the size of the media market, the Astros have achieved about where they should be historically.
@dylans Astros have consistently had winning records for most of their history. I'm not calling their history great, but just good. If we're talking best franchises since 1962, Astros are probably around tenth or so. There's also not a lot of franchises with 11 playoff appearances in the past 40 years.
dylans said:
@KUSTEVE Houston is the 4th largest TV market. The Astros should do better than they historically have, but man are they good now.
The Astros have historically been a pretty good franchise. They've ready only had two era's of consistently being a bad franchise. 1962-1968 before divisional play existed and 2009-2014 when the current core was being drafted, signed, and developed. Other than those two windows, the Astros have never had more than 2 consecutive losing seasons.
The Astros just have never been an elite franchise, but they have historically been a good franchise.
Outside of my 2 years at KU, I've lived in Houston since 1991.
Pro football in Houston has always been far more disappointing than baseball has been here. Soccer has been a huge disappointment the past few years as well because the Dynamo owner refuses to spend any money on good players or refuses to re-sign the good players we have.
There's some HS programs that follow the analytics and do this stuff. We're probably 10 or so years away from this making it's way to FBS football. The way it'll happen is that one of these HS coaches will get hired at a lower level program as HC (D2 or below), then get hired at a bad FCS program that can take that risk, and then a bad G5 program that can afford to be patient and allow that type system to develop at the FBS level.
This system does exist and is currently working its way up the ladder, it's just going to be awhile before it reaches the FBS level barring significant rules changes.
Kcmatt7 said:
I just don't see how you can keep an athlete like that on the bench...
Enaruna can't make a shot at this point, that's why he's rated as low as he was. He's a development guy. He appears to have good form on his shot so it appears like it's something that can be developed, it's just not developed yet
BeddieKU23 said:
Slater recently put a CB into Okie Lite for Bryce Thompson.. Shenanigans going on in Stillwater to land Cunningham and Thompson??
OSU does have the occasional class like that, probably about once a decade or so. Probably just Nike spreading the wealth to their second tier programs. LSU is another example and so was Washington before this year. Teams that about once a decade or so land a monster class courtesy of the Nike machine.
@FarmerJayhawk Sorry, but post secondary education is a scam because there's no reason attending a 4 year public university should cost what it does. It's also a scam in that it's total BS that society says you have to go to a university in order to be successful in life.
College/university isn't for everyone and that's okay, but the message corporate America and the government put out there is that you can't be successful in life without going to college. That mentality is why there are so many unfilled skilled labor positions out there. Too many people fail to tell students that aren't academically fit for college there are alternatives to college. There needs to be more technical and trade schools promoted to kids who either can't afford college or don't have the grades for college so they can get trained and certified in a trade and make really good money that way without going so deep into debt that they're paying for it decades later.
I will also say definitively that the quality of teaching for gen. ed. classes at universities and community colleges is negligible.
So I will say that universities are a scam and a racket because there's no good reason they should cost what they cost other than greed.
There's plenty of studies out there that pretty strongly indicate specialization in sports and playing year round is pretty detrimental to the long term development of an athlete.
@BShark Washington is no longer a Nike program. They signed a $12 million per year deal with Adidas last year that goes into effect this year.
Title IX depends on shoe money. Women's sports would not exist without shoe money.
RIP Voice of the Jayhawks!
Here's what the minutes break down for that projections looks like as minutes per game.
Devon Dotson projects out to 33-34 mpg
Marcus Garrett projects out to 30-31 mpg
Ochai Agbaji projects out to 28-29 mpg
Isaiah Moss projects out to 28 mpg
Udoka Azubuike projects out 26-27 mpg
Silvio DeSousa projects out to 22-23 mpg
David McCormack projects out to 12 mpg
Jalen Wilson projects out to 9-10 mpg
Tristan Enaruna projects out to 5-6 mpg
Christian Braun projects out to 3-4 mpg
Not listed are Mitch Lightfoot, Issac McBride, and DaJuan Harris since it only projects out a top 10. McBride is the most surprising of those 3 being left off to me because of the redshirt talk around Lightfoot and Harris not being eligible yet.
The one player who I think the mpg is off on is David McCormack. I think 12 mpg is quite low for him as I would expect him to be in the 17-18 mpg range mainly at the expense of Tristan Enaruna on this list. I think Enaruna averages under 5 mpg probably in the 3-4 mpg range.
I agree with others about Marcus Garrett being the second leading scorer this season. I don't see that happening. I can see him increasing his scoring over last season, but I don't see him bumping it up 6 ppg this season. In order to have any chance at that, there would have to be significant improvements to his shooting. I don't think 4 double digit scorers is a bad prediction, I just don't see Garrett being one of those 4. I would have Doke as the second leading scorer, Agbaji third, Moss fourth, and then Garrett fifth.
@kjayhawks Doke averaged 7 rebounds in 20 mpg last season, why wouldn't he be able to average at least 8 rpg with the increased minutes this projection has for him this season? I could easily see him at 8 or 9 rpg if he plays the 26-27 mpg this projection has for him.
Sideline Cancer has been in the tournament several years now, those guys know how to play well with each other at this point.
Some of the better options the KU group could get to play are over in the Big3 league, so not available for the TBT. KU guys in the Big3 league are Drew Gooden, Mario Chalmers, Brandon Rush, and Julian Wright. That's why there were some players who would've been a great fit on Self Made that weren't there.
@BShark For Self and the program at least. I don't think Perry would choose that path at this point in his life voluntarily.