🏀 KuBuckets Archive

@wrwlumpy
Cool list😎. I can't believe that kid from Phoenix was only #9. Other than Wiggins #1, Goodwin's (I think) was the best.

Cliff's officially declared for NBA via a press release. Speculation over.

@Lulufulu
He said "'F**k that Ni&&a', when Towns was asked about FK. It was mumbled but audible.

Classy bunch. The twins body language during games is so bad as well. It's hard not to root against them.

@JhawkAlum
I totally agree. I want nothing to do w this type of a kid. I know OADs are a necessary evil right now, but I say stay away from ones like these. Go play for Kentucky where they promote the me first, selfie generation. I prefer the humble types like Wiggins and Oubre.

Since I'm a tech idiot, just google search: "the evolution of the morris twins sbnation".

Loved Joe Dooley's comment about their 1st practice.

Sad when a high school team is playing later in the season then our Jayhawks 😪. It's going to be a looooong off season.

@HighEliteMajor
Great Post HEM. When you're positive and encouraging, there's no better poster out there. I love your enthusiasm for this weekend and beyond. I waffle between being supremely confident and feeling helipless w this team. But you have me, currently, in the confident camp. Thank you! Safe travels to Omaha, and bring some good fate to our beloved Jayhawks.

@Hawk8086
WSU is not as good as u think they are. They beat up on a pathetic MVC, and they were constantly in close games that had no business being close. Yes they've got good guards and play great D, but they have no inside game and if we take Baker and VanVleet outta their game, we should win convincingly. I believe WSU stayed ranked as high as they did all year, based partly on their rep from last year and the 2013 FF. Other than that, they didn't blow the doors off any expectations this year

@BeddieKU23
I love this scenario! This gives KU legitimate motivation to get to the Sweet 16. First off, you know Self will be pumped to put it to Marshall, so I'm confident he will be fully engaged on the coaching side. Additionally, you know our boys are going to want to stick it to CF for bailing on them. Even though he's not playing, I believe they'll be juiced to show Connor what he gave up and what he now has.

Keep in mind, too, that WSU is not guaranteed a pass to us. You'll figure that the coaching staff will be all in on IU, that they'll be scrambling to put together a gameplan. Even tho we won't be looking past our first opponent, I have to believe that we're putting a gameplan together now for the Shockers

@joeloveshawks
If Duke ends up still being a 1 seed, I'm going to be real interested in the logic. They didn't win their conf nor their conf tournament. Yet, you know, they'll be in the conversation for a 1. I don't think the committee will put them there though, too difficult to justify.

@Shanghai_RCJH
Right? How do you win the best conference, outright, and the conference tournament and not be a 1 seed? I don't think they'll get it w the 7 losses, but I sure would like to hear their explanations

@JayHawkFanToo
What im simply saying is what HEM says well just above. That if Perry is healthy, he should play. He shouldn't be held out because we think we can win w/out him, or to use it as a chance to get our bench more playing time. Coach Self says yesterday that's hes 100% and that he'll play. Yet today there going to sit him. Presumably to get an extra day of rest. I don't agree w that. That's how you lose games that you normally should win. And I don't buy the argument that this is a meaningless tourney. BS. This tourney is a perfect tuneup for the next one and we should want to win them all. I don't remember our 2008 team mailing in the conference tournament. We should have a burning desire to win EVERY game on our schedule. Not just the "important " ones.

The decision not to play Ellis reeks of Coach Self out thinking himself. He's done this time and time again the last couple of years. Play to win each game and then move onto the next one. This is the postseason now, the time for tinkering is over.

@jayballer54
I don't agree. I say play them like the whole season is on the line. Coach them like you were Rick Barnes andyour job depended on it. And don't let up until the final buzzer... Of course this is only because I'm going to the game with my whole family.

It's funny, after last Monday s game vs KSU, I was sure the OU game would be meaningless and I was going down there to watch the Jayhawks be throttled in their way to giving up the streak. On 1 week has passed and the game is still meaningless, however, it's on the total opposite side of the spectrum! Gotta love college hoops. No sport is as unpredictable and, to me, more enjoyable. Which gets me thinking, if you're a gambler and try to make your nut on college hoops, you're probably not winning much money.

@HighEliteMajor
Where is the real HEM, and who the hell are you?!.... Great observation on the toughness of Coach and how he IMPOSES that on his teams. This team lacks a lot of things, but I has an abundance of toughness. A quality that is essential in competition

@DoubleDD
I'm with you, I bet it's contact w an agent or the family taking some money from one.

@HighEliteMajor
Did you ever think that Self is protecting the long ball strategy for when he needs it most? The postseason?

I think Self knows how to win Big12 games and championships. He knows that he can impose his will on the rest of the league and tough out championship. He knows that hi/ lo wins confrence games. I mean, he has the statistical data to back it up.
But if he goes out every game now and runs an outside in gameplan, then he is "showing his hand", so to speak. Why give tournament teams a wealth of video to study up on you and scheme to stop? Why not forcibly make this team good or efficient at the hi/ lo, so that when a team goes to shut that down, our 3 ballers will make it rain.

Coach knows his team, I think you should give him a little bit of credit for being crafty here. I think he's shaping this team to be the ultimate conundrum come March. He has a bit of sneaky devil in him, as we saw in the 2012 tournament with the junk defenses.

It's hard to argue w your logic, I would just tell you that, maybe, his plan is a bit more than surface deep. RCJH

@jaybate-1.0
I don't know jaybate, I think you're being overly harsh, to make your point. We weren't lucky to win this game. We gutted out an ugly game.

We out rebounded UT and had 10 (!) blocks... Without Cliff. That signifies a motivated from front court.

We were as hungry, in the Reb dept, as we've been in a while. Texas didn't give us that. That, we earned.

@jaybate-1.0
You didn't think Seinfeld was funny? What about Curb your enthusiasm?

@KUinLA
I hope you're wrong

@nuleafjhawk
I really don't know. I think he's stubborn as all get out, a quality that has helped him get to the point where he is now. But also a quality that is his undoing right now. Maybe losing to confrence champ streak is what he needs to regain some desire. I guess that even the best can get complacent from time to time.

@nuleafjhawk
Totally agree. Bill Self has been out coached on multiple occasions this year and its perplexing. Why, when the whole world knows your intention, do you continue to force the ball into Perry?!?! I know he was having a great game, but even Bruce Weber figured out that he had to deny Perry the ball. One time he was TRIPLE TEAMED and we still forced it in and a horrible shot ensued. Bill Self made Bruce Weber look All-World last night. He made no adjustments, all the while, making it so easy for Bruce to adjust to his bull headed gameplan. I mean, I know you're supposed to ride the hot hand, but you could not have realistically thought PE was going to keep it up all night! Right?

Btw, nuleaf, I owe you an apology, this team doesn't have any heart. And it was on full display last night.

@VailHawk
Yes we did. By Bruce F ing Weber. This ones on Self. Him and every player that doesn't take care of the ball. How many f ing turnovers do we think we can spot a team? Newsflash! You guys aren't good enough to spot other teams TOs, but ,alas, we do

@DoubleDD
And every three we took was horrible. I think the last one by Selden that rimmed out was the only good one we took all game. Frank Mason looked liked he didn't know how to shoot tonight AT ALL. He was like a golfer w the yips.... Meanwhile, KState hits every single meaningful shot.

@jaybate-1.0
That could've been your longest post ever. And I enjoyed every bit of it. The Kusports honks can suck it 😉

@nuleafjhawk
You're good man. You are a great contributor on this site and the "other" one in your former life. Rock Chalk!... However, giving up 20+ O Rebs is unacceptable.

@nuleafjhawk
Dude, this team maybe a little stupid and careless at times, but they most certainly have heart. And a lot of it. You don't fight back as many times as they have this year if u don't have heart. I know it was a tough loss, but don't make such outlandish statements.

@icthawkfan316
I hate to disagree w you, but I think that Embiid played at a very high level as a frosh. I also believe that he was as high ranked as #9 by ESPN when it was all said and done.

@HighEliteMajor
Thanks for that. Something I never would've caught watching it in real time. I appreciate the quick XO lesson. Keep it up

@Bwag
I can't see it being true, but I've often thought (even before yesterdays game) that Self "under coaches" at least one OSU game/ yr.

@KUSTEVE
Yes, he's quite skilled at keeping conflict going. He's like a child who has to get the last word every time. The shame is that he actually does have some intelligent takes, they just tend to be overly pessimistic and he can't handle and sort of challenges to that pessimism. I learned my lesson long ago to not engage him, as Mark Twain once said, "Never argue w fools, onlookers might not be able to tell the difference."

@ParisHawk
Such a good point! The did away w anonymity to curtail the personal attacks. Now they go after each other even more. LMFAO! When the good posters left, that just created a vacuum for others to fill. Unfortunately, those posters have nothing intelligent to add to the conversation, so they personally attack to get attention. Smh

@DoubleDD
I'd say Kentucky in 2012 was the wire to wire favorite and they came through.

@DinarHawk
I'm curious as to who they had as the possible world beaters of UK?

@HighEliteMajor
I see what you are saying about forcing the action inside when we clearly are more of a threat from the outside. But I think you underestimate Coach. I think he knows we win that game going away if we play as we did against UT. I really think a lot of it is Self not wanting to show his hand. I think there is more at play, psychologicly, than you give him credit for. He wants out team to be proficient and feared in more than 1 aspect of the game.

@jaybate-1.0
Don't forget about OUR motivation factors. Two of which are: We will be pumped up and eager to return the favor against ISU. 2nd, Cliff will be especially turnt up. This is the team that Self sat his butt on the bench to prove a point. This is the game where Coach took a loss rather than give one of our best players more mins which probably would have helped us win. So, we have reasons to be jacked as well. Now, it's only a matter if we play that way.

@wrwlumpy
Look who's creeping in the background btwn Self and BDavis

@jayhawk-007
Great post

@icthawkfan316 "
"How would either of the last two KU squads have finished the year with this kind of PG play?"

What a great question! And the implication that the last 2 KU teams would have thrived with this years PG play, is spot on.

@brooksmd Great read, brooks! Thanks for the link

@jaybate-1.0 said:

" The steel tempered before our eyes the last four minutes and a team was born. "

Great line

Is this KUSPORTS or KUBUCKETS?

@jaybate-1.0 Self looked into the cryogenic tank and gave the order to keep Mickelson at absolute zero.

That's just awesomeness. Bravo 👏👏👏

@HawkInMizery Excellent post

@jayballer54 Baylor did us a HUGE favor. ISU was going to be pumped for this game regardless. It might have been the reason they lost tonight. But now, a loss at ISU doesn't hurt us nearly as bad. Because we were likely to lose Saturdays game anyway, now it means less if we do. And if we win, we widen our lead that much more. So yeah, Baylor helped us out big time tonight

@KansasComet said:

PHOF

Lucas might not have had a TO in the box score, but he muffed a pass from Graham that was an easy dunk. Fumbled it right out of bounds. You know, the same thing Perry does every time he has the ball in traffic. I'll bet if you shake Perry's hand, it is one of the weakest, limp-wristed handshakes ever. Grab ahold of it tight Perry! Frustrating!

Where is a picture of HCBS? The most famous OSU alum of them all... at least for Jayhawks fans

@HEM, Kentucky is winning the national title this year. I know that we're supposed to expect National titles every year, but not this year. Everyone is playing for 2nd. And that is ok.

This year we should expect, and hope for, progress. If they win the BIG 12, I'll be estatic. And when our Defensive intensity is up, we'll be a hard out come March. Which would be a significant stepping stone for next season. With the depth of this year's draft, KUs team could be the same next year. As long as this team figures out what Bill is preaching, and they continue to make progress (there's that word again), we should be happy Jayhawk fans this year. Because, don't forget, we're all playing for 2nd this year.

Phenomonal post HEM, you've hit the nail on the head. I would think that Self has to realize this as well. He's stated his worry of Cliff picking up a couple of cheap fouls early, which is why I wouldn't mind Lucas or Mick starting. But you are absolutely correct, Cliff needs to be on the floor for 30 mpg. Oubre too, for that matter.