@dylans nice! Had not heard of this.
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I just paused Youtube tv and cancelled some other streaming services. Espn made the cut barely. Youtube will unpause end of august in time for football.
Tell me Bucketeers, have I made a grievous error in my calculations? Is there any must see sports or other type tv coming our way between now and the Fall that should be on our radar?
@BeddieKU23 nice insights.
@BShark lol thats fantastic about Flagg. I may just root for the kid in the pros.
Im sure New Balance stroked a pretty healthy check.
@BShark my assumption is that shoe co money is very much driving the bus, when it comes to sweetening deals, a bit above the table and a lot below.
I guess my question would be “whats stopping it from working like that?”
@drgnslayr just realized between me starting this thread from one of your posts and @dylans resuscitating an ancient thread of yours to mask his Frank prank behind your avatar, we might owe you some NIL money!
College basketball…
@BShark sucks. Stupid Nike money.
Diamond dirt and grass are such a big part of the baseball experience for me. I was oblivious that people are playing on turf. Blew my mind a little bit. Especially the dirt parts actually being turf.
Wow, yes please
This team could very much be the “not 2024-2025 Jayhawks”
Also, the url for that youtube video ends in KU. I will take that as a sign.
@FarmerJayhawk Love it.
Chatgpt has dishonored this household… ive spent an hour or so slaving over a google sheet my own damn self… will let you know when the kinks are worked out.
Someone rightly pointed out that the list we are discussing is valuation and not program revenue. However, the revenue numbers from this nasdaq article in 2023 were more alarming: https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/schools-that-make-the-most-money-off-college-basketball ↗
Indiana is the highest value Adidas program and was Flory’s likely destination before Kansas decided to pay him the NIL he was worth. Peterson basically said he was coming back to KU no matter that we looked like a complete dumpster fire at the time.
Pretty clear that shoeco money rules the CBB universe and university NIL is just the part of the iceberg visible above sea level.
Two adidas schools more valuable than Kansas on that list, if chatgpt is to be trusted:
| Rank | Program | Revenue | Shoe Sponsor | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | North Carolina | $378M | Jordan Brand (Nike) | Longstanding partnership since the early 1990s. |
| 2 | Duke | $370M | Nike | Historically a Nike school; recent reports suggest potential shift to Jordan Brand. |
| 3 | Indiana | $279M | Adidas | Extended their apparel deal with Adidas for 10 years. |
| 4 | Ohio State | $262M | Nike | Official athletics website features Nike products. |
| 5 | Louisville | $260M | Adidas | Entered a $160 million deal with Adidas. |
| 6 | Arizona | $257M | Nike | Renewed athletic apparel contract with Nike. |
| 7 | Syracuse | $256M | Nike | Extended relationship with Nike, spanning over 30 years. |
| 8 | Illinois | $232M | Nike | Celebrated 25-year partnership with Nike. |
| 9 | Kentucky | $223M | Nike (Mamba Program) | Selected as the first "Mamba Program" school in partnership with Nike. |
| 10 | Arkansas | $217M | Nike | Nike became exclusive provider for Razorbacks Athletics. |
| 11 | Kansas | $191M | Adidas | Extended deal with Adidas through 2031. |
| 12 | Michigan | $189M | Jordan Brand (Nike) | Finalized agreement with Nike; features Jordan Brand products. |
| 13 | Michigan State | $183M | Nike | Partnered with Nike for custom products. |
| 14 | UConn | $165M | Nike | Extended exclusive sponsorship agreement with Nike. |
| 15 | Minnesota | $164M | Nike | Official men's basketball page features Nike products. |
@dylans interesting
I miss Frank. Was hoping this was news that he was now on staff.
But i will settle on a video of proof of what kind of a freak athlete he was.
Someone mentioned Pop Isaacs to Houston? Yay. 27 point night coming our way.
Yeah that video doesnt inspire a whole lot of confidence. He is heaving it from low down. Unless he is Steph Curry, I dont really want to rely on someone who has to shoot from his knees against B12 defenders
@MR11 1000% this.
Its very possible that the above is all correct and what i am doing now is not since everything above is consistent and the new thing which requires more heavy lifting is not
Yeah i don’t have time to do this right now but what i am trying to do now is use it to break down the ratio in wins vs losses. I think this is a good thread to pull.
Its gets us down the road.
My stats may be bogus. I'm using chatgpt to parse some data for me. Now i'm getting different results. Please hold.
I think that 16% FT is def
worth striving for.
Houston under Sampson:
| Season | Record | NCAA Tournament Result | FT% | 3PT% | 2PT% |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2024–25 | 35–5 | Runner-Up | ~16% | ~32% | ~52% |
| 2023–24 | 32–5 | Sweet Sixteen | ~15% | ~31% | ~54% |
| 2022–23 | 33–4 | Sweet Sixteen | ~14% | ~30% | ~56% |
| 2021–22 | 32–6 | Elite Eight | ~15% | ~31% | ~54% |
| 2020–21 | 28–4 | Final Four | ~14% | ~30% | ~56% |
| 2019–20 | 23–8 | Tournament Canceled | ~13% | ~29% | ~58% |
| 2018–19 | 33–4 | Sweet Sixteen | ~14% | ~30% | ~56% |
| 2017–18 | 27–8 | Round of 32 | ~13% | ~28% | ~59% |
| 2016–17 | 21–11 | No Tournament | ~12% | ~27% | ~61% |
| 2015–16 | 22–10 | NIT First Round | ~13% | ~28% | ~59% |
| 2014–15 | 13–19 | No Tournament | ~12% | ~27% | ~61% |
Check out Duke’s breakdown for this year for something eye popping
| Season | Coach | Record | NCAA Tournament Result | FT% | 3PT% | 2PT% |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2024–25 | Jon Scheyer | 35–4 | Final Four | 18.3% | 36.4% | 45.3% |
| 2023–24 | Jon Scheyer | 27–9 | Sweet Sixteen | ~16% | ~34% | ~50% |
| 2022–23 | Jon Scheyer | 27–9 | Second Round | ~15% | ~32% | ~53% |
| 2021–22 | Mike Krzyzewski | 32–7 | Final Four | ~16% | ~33% | ~51% |
| 2020–21 | Mike Krzyzewski | 13–11 | No Tournament | ~14% | ~32% | ~54% |
| 2019–20 | Mike Krzyzewski | 25–6 | Tournament Canceled | ~15% | ~33% | ~52% |
| 2018–19 | Mike Krzyzewski | 32–6 | Elite Eight | ~16% | ~31% | ~53% |
| 2017–18 | Mike Krzyzewski | 29–8 | Elite Eight | ~15% | ~32% | ~53% |
| 2016–17 | Mike Krzyzewski | 28–9 | Second Round | ~14% | ~33% | ~53% |
| 2015–16 | Mike Krzyzewski | 25–11 | Sweet Sixteen | ~15% | ~32% | ~53% |
| 2014–15 | Mike Krzyzewski | 35–4 | National Champions | ~16% | ~31% | ~53% |
| 2013–14 | Mike Krzyzewski | 26–9 | First Round | ~15% | ~32% | ~53% |
| 2012–13 | Mike Krzyzewski | 30–6 | Elite Eight | ~14% | ~33% | ~53% |
| 2011–12 | Mike Krzyzewski | 27–7 | First Round | ~15% | ~32% | ~53% |
| 2010–11 | Mike Krzyzewski | 32–5 | Sweet Sixteen | ~16% | ~31% | ~53% |
| 2009–10 | Mike Krzyzewski | 35–5 | National Champions | ~15% | ~32% | ~53% |
| 2008–09 | Mike Krzyzewski | 30–7 | Sweet Sixteen | ~14% | ~33% | ~53% |
| 2007–08 | Mike Krzyzewski | 28–6 | Second Round | ~15% | ~32% | ~53% |
| 2006–07 | Mike Krzyzewski | 22–11 | First Round | ~16% | ~31% | ~53% |
| 2005–06 | Mike Krzyzewski | 32–4 | Sweet Sixteen | ~15% | ~32% | ~53% |
| 2004–05 | Mike Krzyzewski | 27–6 | Sweet Sixteen | ~14% | ~33% | ~53% |
| 2003–04 | Mike Krzyzewski | 31–6 | Final Four | ~15% | ~32% | ~53% |
| 2002–03 | Mike Krzyzewski | 26–7 | Sweet Sixteen | ~16% | ~31% | ~53% |
| 2001–02 | Mike Krzyzewski | 31–4 | Sweet Sixteen | ~15% | ~32% | ~53% |
| 2000–01 | Mike Krzyzewski | 35–4 | National Champions | ~14% | ~33% | ~53% |
| 1999–00 | Mike Krzyzewski | 29–5 | Sweet Sixteen | ~15% | ~32% | ~53% |
| 1998–99 | Mike Krzyzewski | 37–2 | Runner-Up | ~16% | ~31% | ~53% |
| 1997–98 | Mike Krzyzewski | 32–4 | Elite Eight | ~15% | ~32% | ~53% |
| 1996–97 | Mike Krzyzewski | 24–9 | Second Round | ~14% | ~33% | ~53% |
| 1995–96 | Mike Krzyzewski | 18–13 | First Round | ~15% | ~32% | ~53% |
| 1994–95 | Mike Krzyzewski | 9–3* | No Tournament | ~16% | ~31% | ~53% |
| 1993–94 | Mike Krzyzewski | 28–6 | Runner-Up | ~15% | ~32% | ~53% |
| 1992–93 | Mike Krzyzewski | 24–8 | Second Round | ~14% | ~33% | ~53% |
| 1991–92 | Mike Krzyzewski | 34–2 | National Champions | ~15% | ~32% | ~53% |
| 1990–91 | Mike Krzyzewski | 32–7 | National Champions | ~16% | ~31% | ~53% |
| 1989–90 | Mike Krzyzewski | 29–9 | Runner-Up | ~15% | ~32% | ~53% |
| 1988–89 | Mike Krzyzewski | 28–8 | Final Four | ~14% | ~33% | ~53% |
| 1987–88 | Mike Krzy |
Heres Villanova under Jay Wright:
| Season | Record | NCAA Tournament Result | FT% | 3PT% | 2PT% |
|----------|--------|------------------------|------|------|------|
| 2021–22 | 30–8 | Final Four | ~16% | ~32% | ~52% |
| 2020–21 | 18–7 | Sweet Sixteen | ~15% | ~31% | ~54% |
| 2019–20 | 24–7 | Tournament Canceled | ~14% | ~30% | ~56% |
| 2018–19 | 26–10 | Second Round | ~15% | ~32% | ~53% |
| 2017–18 | 36–4 | National Champions | ~16% | ~35% | ~49% |
| 2016–17 | 32–4 | Second Round | ~15% | ~34% | ~51% |
| 2015–16 | 35–5 | National Champions | ~16% | ~33% | ~51% |
| 2014–15 | 33–3 | Second Round | ~15% | ~32% | ~53% |
| 2013–14 | 29–5 | Second Round | ~14% | ~31% | ~55% |
| 2012–13 | 20–14 | Round of 64 | ~13% | ~30% | ~57% |
| 2011–12 | 13–19 | No Tournament | ~12% | ~29% | ~59% |
| 2010–11 | 21–12 | Round of 64 | ~13% | ~30% | ~57% |
| 2009–10 | 25–8 | Round of 32 | ~14% | ~31% | ~55% |
| 2008–09 | 30–8 | Final Four | ~15% | ~32% | ~53% |
| 2007–08 | 22–13 | Sweet Sixteen | ~14% | ~31% | ~55% |
| 2006–07 | 22–11 | Round of 64 | ~13% | ~30% | ~57% |
| 2005–06 | 28–5 | Elite Eight | ~14% | ~31% | ~55% |
| 2004–05 | 24–8 | Sweet Sixteen | ~13% | ~30% | ~57% |
| 2003–04 | 18–17 | NIT Quarterfinal | ~12% | ~29% | ~59% |
| 2002–03 | 15–16 | NIT First Round | ~11% | ~28% | ~61% |
| 2001–02 | 19–13 | NIT Quarterfinal | ~12% | ~29% | ~59% |
Heres Uconn under Hurley:
| Season | Record | NCAA Tournament Result | FT% | 3PT% | 2PT% |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2024–25 | 24–11 | Second Round | ~14% | ~30% | ~56% |
| 2023–24 | 37–3 | National Champions | ~15% | ~32% | ~53% |
| 2022–23 | 31–8 | National Champions | ~15% | ~31% | ~54% |
| 2021–22 | 23–10 | First Round | ~14% | ~30% | ~56% |
| 2020–21 | 15–8 | First Round | ~13% | ~29% | ~58% |
| 2019–20 | 19–12 | No Tournament (COVID) | ~14% | ~30% | ~56% |
| 2018–19 | 16–17 | No Tournament | ~13% | ~28% | ~59% |
Historically high percentage of points from 2, low from 3, low from FT.
| Season | Record | NCAA Tournament Result | FT% | 3PT% | 2PT% |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2024–25 | 21–13 | First Round | 13.6% | 28.5% | 57.9% |
| 2023–24 | 23–11 | Second Round | ~14% | ~30% | ~56% |
| 2022–23 | 28–8 | Round of 32 | ~15% | ~32% | ~53% |
| 2021–22 | 34–6 | National Champions | ~16% | ~31% | ~53% |
| 2020–21 | 21–9 | Second Round | ~15% | ~29% | ~56% |
| 2019–20 | 28–3 | Tournament Canceled | ~14% | ~30% | ~56% |
| 2018–19 | 26–10 | Second Round | ~15% | ~31% | ~54% |
| 2017–18 | 31–8 | Final Four | ~16% | ~32% | ~52% |
| 2016–17 | 31–5 | Elite Eight | ~15% | ~33% | ~52% |
| 2015–16 | 33–5 | Elite Eight | ~14% | ~34% | ~52% |
| 2014–15 | 27–9 | Round of 32 | ~15% | ~33% | ~52% |
| 2013–14 | 25–10 | Round of 32 | ~16% | ~32% | ~52% |
| 2012–13 | 31–6 | Sweet Sixteen | ~15% | ~31% | ~54% |
| 2011–12 | 32–7 | National Runner-Up | ~14% | ~30% | ~56% |
| 2010–11 | 35–3 | Elite Eight | ~15% | ~32% | ~53% |
| 2009–10 | 33–3 | Second Round | ~14% | ~33% | ~53% |
| 2008–09 | 27–8 | Sweet Sixteen | ~15% | ~32% | ~53% |
| 2007–08 | 37–3 | National Champions | ~16% | ~31% | ~53% |
| 2006–07 | 33–5 | Elite Eight | ~15% | ~32% | ~53% |
| 2005–06 | 25–8 | First Round | ~14% | ~33% | ~53% |
| 2004–05 | 23–7 | First Round | ~15% | ~32% | ~53% |
| 2003–04 | 24–9 | Elite Eight | ~16% | ~31% | ~53% |
| 2002–03 | 30–8 | National Runner-Up | ~15% | ~32% | ~53% |
Does anyone know the timetable we might expect the announcement of staff changes?
@Jhawk69 sounds like a good group offensively. How do they stack up defensively?
Congrats to yobear, my brother (me myself and KJ) and KU Beddie, for finishing top 3 with Florida over Houston!
@drgnslayr i took the liberty of forking this post into its own topic. It does seem to be the crux of lingering discontent about the future, at least for me.
@rockchalkjayhawk you talking bout Elijah Nutpunch Johnson? Mitch Mcgary deserved it. https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/1b9vme/elijah_johnson_racks_mitch_mcgary_in_the_family/?rdt=55842 ↗
1 recruit at their position for their respective classes. Will anyone have a better 2 man combo?
@BShark hoping in that order?
Is there any place I can get a thoughtful ranking of the commit + transfer classes for ncaam?
Do we read this guy? Council was on his radar https://www.kansan.com/sports/portalnomics-where-might-kansas-basketball-find-the-next-marcus-garrett/article_697df361-a215-4c0d-b0bd-ed1aa73f01f2.html ↗
@Kcmatt7 looks like a million spam posts on his x from providence fans. I added a Jayhawk to the mix
Lmk if i got the wrong Council :)
@BShark fair. I find stats often have a scoping issue. With a couple more filters, like rebounds in close games, or when games are close, we might see effort shine through more, would be curious how that stacks up to “when behind” and “when ahead”. Also, if we broke the season up into quarters, feel like we well apart at the end.
But i think youre absolutely right that there was an athleticism gap.
My 6 year old came home singing this, which he picked up at school. I guess theres a clapping game that goes with it. I enjoyed the regional variations in the reddit thread.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nostalgia/comments/pme8mi/down_by_the_banks_of_the_hanky_panky ↗
I wonder if you guys have encountered any similar spoken word things (or other things) that varied greatly by region?
Florida needed a guest appearance of joakim noah air humping. All class.
Tyon Grant Foster.. hmmmmmmmm
@drgnslayr yeah. I am amazed watching them rebound. Its beautiful. When a shot goes up, layers of guys fold in from the sides and half the distance to the opposing player who isnt trying as hard.
Some possessions i became suspicious that they seemed to care less about making the shot than rebounding… just throw it toward the rim and someone will get it!
@bskeet me too me too :)
@Jhawk69 yep! I'll wait until he half-asses the first half of the season to throw him under the bus ;)
@RockChalkinTexas love it, agreed.