@kuballin10 Right on. I hope Pettiford tears it up and we don't have to rely so heavily on Juan for scoring. But I wouldn't be too surprised if Juan is asked to contribute more. And if he is, I trust he's preparing all summer so that he can deliver more.
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Sherron Frosh: 9.3, 2.9 and .7 Soph: 9.3, 3.1, 1.1
Sherron Jr 18.9 pts per game; Sr 15.5 pts per game.
He basically doubled his output in his last two years. Not because he suddenly found some new ability between his Sophomore and Junior years, rather, because the team dynamics changed and his assignment changed.
DeJuan's Frosh: 2.4 pt per game and Soph: 5.4 pts per game
I wouldn't be surprised if Juan averaged 9-10 per game next year. That's about double this year's production and that's what they will need from him.
My point is that this is a similar trajectory.
I never said Juan would be a prolific scorer. I said he would be depended on to be a more prolific scorer. In other words, he will be asked and expected to generate more scoring in his jr and sr year.
Again, I AM NOT COMPARING THE ABILITIES OF THESE TWO. I'M COMPARING THEIR ASSIGNMENTS.
@RockkChalkk I wasn't making an argument about who is better, Juan or Sherron. I was talking about career trajectories. My point is that I think they will be similar. Sherron was capable of scoring but there were better options in 2008. Later he was depended on to be a more prolific scorer. Likewise for Juan in 2022. And, in my opinion, Juan will also be depended on to be a more prolific scorer in his jr and sr years.
Your point about scoring 5v5 compared to 5v4 is a good one. When one guy isn't a scoring threat, the defense can cheat.
As a side note, I don't have the numbers for post-season, but it would be interesting to look at Juan's post-season scoring to see how that compares to his full-season metrics. My observation is that he took more shots in the post season, when it was more critical to keep the defense honest. He only needed to make a few (and he did) to change the way the team was defended.
@approxinfinity Yes. And Sherron was not asked to be a primary scorer in 2008. He was a facilitator first. Then, he took on more and more responsibility until he and Aldrich were an incredible tandem in 2010.
I think that role is similar for Juan. He was not asked to be a primary scorer this year; we had plenty of other options for that. But he was trusted to be a facilitator. But I expect that he will asked to take on more scoring responsibilities in 2022-23 and the following years he will be a primary scorer.
This is the way.
The principles behind the covid vaccine and the seasonal flu vaccine are the same: It gives you some immunity/resistance so you are less likely to get infected; but, if you do, it also reduces the severity to the point that death from the virus is extremely unlikely.
(I'm not an expert, so I think what I'm about to say is accurate, but you should always talk to a physician if you're not sure.)
The only difference between the Pfizer / Moderna vaccines and the flu vaccines is that P/M vaccines were developed using mRNA tech which is fairly new. As I understand it, the J&J vaccine did not use that tech. J&J is less effective against the virus, but if you are concerned about mRNA tech (and the very low rate of pulmonary issues that have been noted), then perhaps the J&J is the better route for you.
There is no reason for large numbers of Americans to still be dying from covid at this point other than multiple co-morbidities and skepticism.
@approxinfinity said in Reasons to believe in next year’s team:
I think of Russ Rob as a better comp for Juan.
yes.. And maybe Sherron.
@jayballer67 said in 2022 Crootin:
think without a doubt that KU has finally gotten THE Coach w have needed for so long. - It’s just that every time I listen to the guy, just seems so self confident an really has THAT plan that we need making sure along the line that we as fans realize we have a long way to go - -BUT we are getting better.
The guy just ooozes class , I think he has a very competent staff and all seem very sincere in their job and how they are handling the guys and have these guys that we CAN be a very competitive team. They have these guys believing in their selves and that right there is half the battle.
I dunno maybe I’m just so starved for a respectable team that I’m grasping at straws - -just seems to me that there is THAT LIGHT that has been absent for such a very long time and Coach L has THAT LIGHT in his hand. - -maybe just me but that’s my take. I for one am stoked
He had me at 2 national championships ;-)
KU was tied for 4th after the first day. Hiller had a spectacular first day.
The course is at Grayhawk, and that rhymes with...
Juan is a floor general. A facilitator. Self loves that. Mason and Graham had to prove they could do that before they became the potent offensive weapons as seniors.
Remy and Juan.
Russ Rob and Sherron.
Parallels, in some ways. And totally different duos in other ways.
Winners in all ways ;-)
:-)
@approxinfinity He is now at Santa Clara University. That is a team that could make some noise in the WCC which has been dominated by Gonzaga, St Mary's and San Francisco (USF) for at least a decade.
Yeah. That's a cert issue. I don't know how it's fixed but those are frustrating.
Toughest schedule this season by a good margin.
First team in history with first 8 games against teams with winning records from the previous season.
@nuleafjhawk Congratulations! Way to go!
Stay off Facebook. It's a hell hole monetizing anything that induces provocation and harvests all behavioral and demographic personal data it can glean.
Instagram, YouTube and Twitter along with FB are like the four horsemen...
@Crimsonorblue22 Then, yes, Baylor or Villanova.
@dylans Good Times!
Best game? Maybe the comeback against K-State in Manhattan. That was pretty incredible.
@Crimsonorblue22 That was a long time ago (no offense to Scot! - I'm older than he is.. but the franchise today is not what it was.)
That totally happened with two of my Duke friends. One came over to watch the game with me. They were strong KU fans after the Saturday game.
This article from today's WSJ uses KU as Exhibit A of the changing landscape of collegiate sports now that NIL is becoming mainstream:
No mention of Bill Self in this article... but it strikes me that he is poised to be the bridge between two eras of basketball. Roy, K and Wright are out. Boehiem will soon follow. The shine is off Pitino and K. Samson. That leaves Self, Izzo and Calipari. And Self leads them in NCs.
So I see the next few years as a unique opportunity for a legacy. In many ways, he (and KU) could blaze trails much as Phog did nearly 90 years ago.
@Bosthawk PHOF
Seriously, this whole thread is like watching a great old movie and enjoying it thoroughly, after all this time.
@approxinfinity Time to update the Privacy Policy and Terms and Conditions to subscribers... hah
Does anyone else loathe those as much as I do? I mean, who reads them? They block your entry to an app or site and you have to click "agree" just to move forward.. Ok. Sorry for the rant.
Yeah, Kings were not a great franchise for our previous first team All America (BIFM)
@BShark Or an NDA lol
Am I weird for being a fan of Yesufu? He seems like a sharp kid with plenty of talent and fit in well. I keep thinking back to that Iowa State game at Ames... which at the time I thought was a victory over a much lesser team. But ISU's end of the season validated how phenomenal that win was without Ochai.
Yesufu's line: 23 Min, 5 Reb, 4 Assists, 7 points in a 70-61 win.
Not too shabby for right off the bench. The dude was ready.
Maybe he's thinking that the 22 team was all about chemistry and doesn't want to disrupt that...??
Roy was just an assistant. - had "... never been a head coach."
Just sayin'
@rockchalkjayhawk I'll give you my hat. Got an extra.
If I had the means, I'd jump on jerseys from Remy, Ochai & McCormack. They gave us some unforgettable moments.
Honestly, they should be auctioning some of this stuff or donate to schools and other charities that run auctions. I think that's where they might maximize the revenue (although the donations don't generate anything for the player.)
Hmmm.
@BShark That story... woah. Forged in a crucible of despair...
@Kcmatt7 said in NIL, transfers, NCAA Policies and where do we go from here:
I also like the idea of limiting the number of transfer roster spots allowed or some sort of mechanism that doesn’t allow for 1500 new spots to open up. So, you are free to transfer, but there might not be a scholarship for you waiting on the other side of it. Almost like how football limits you to 25 scholarships per recruiting class. You can have 13 scholarships, but each year you can only add 3 players from the portal. Something like that I think could work.
This is also a very reasonable concept for a policy.
I think we are doing NCAA's work for them.
SMH
@BeddieKU23 said in NIL, transfers, NCAA Policies and where do we go from here:
I think the transfer rule should stay but there needs to be a “transfer window” created to control when they can enter and what time period to select a new school. Shouldn’t be a 12 month job for coaches imo to recruit their own and recruit others
This is a very reasonable concept for a policy.
If the NCAA would have considered this idea, I can't imagine how they would have concluded "Nah, let's just leave it wide open."
My point is that the NCAA is unimaginative and ineffective when it comes to policy development. (Note: I'm not talking about policing or enforcement -- that's a different responsibility of the NCAA. But enforcement is dictated by the policies. I see setting policies as their #1 job.)
True-- transfer rule is not new, but I thought there was a recent change relaxing the rule, plus the Covid accommodations. And each year the transfer portal has gotten bigger and people seem a bit surprised by how quickly it has grown.
Anyway, my assertion is that the combination of NIL and transfer is a new dynamic.
This thread (about Pack signing to Miami for $800/year) from Matt Tait got me thinking about the the feckless NCAA and what it means for the future of College Basketball (and maybe other sports).
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What I really noted is the discussion about the lack of a cap on the NIL and the "annual free agency" that is now a part of college basketball.
Professional sports has policy instruments in place to meter the salaries and rosters of teams. This is not a novel concept and not hard to anticipate.
Why didn't the NCAA think of this?
The sports entertainment marketplace is constantly evolving. The NCAA is not.
The NCAA has repeatedly demonstrated its inability to build policies that will drive desired behavior in their constituents. What is happening now is great example of their inability to anticipate behavior that would follow from a policy change (made involuntarily, which is more evidence that they don't have vision or innovate.)
Without these modulators, I think we can safely speculate that college basketball will go in some pretty unpredictable directions that are not to the benefit of the sport, the schools or even the athletes.
This moment could be the fissure that transforms college sports.
Proper policies and governance are necessary for major college sports (football, m/w basketball, baseball?) to operate as the entertainment business that it already has become, and continue as a feeder to the professional operations.
Many people feel that conference realignment has been moving toward some inevitable sea change. If the NCAA won't do it, maybe this is the trigger that leads to a coalition of conferences to break off from the NCAA.
There are many things that have been building toward the 5 super conferences, but at the heart of it is the NCAA's inability to develop functional policies, even when there are policies in operation that they could use as a model. They are always in reaction mode. I can't remember the last time they did something innovative.
They are suggesting those for the players, right?
I mean, what they propose is specifically a violation of NIL. You can do so much but you can’t tie payments to performance.
That post is sublime.
Moral of the story: Don’t sleep on Kansas.
@bskeet These images tell the story of the what this KU team could do.
At the end of the win probability chart, what you see is a spike that pierces through the heart of EMAW.
@drgnslayr RE: Repeat... Shhhhh.. To do that we would have to fly under the radar. Again.
The K-State game really made me a believer as well. I nearly turned off the radio in the first half..but I figured I'd stick with them just to see how they responded. And in the second half they still made me want to turn off the radio at times.. but slowly they cut the lead, but could never actually pull ahead until the very end of the game. I'm pretty sure KU had the lead less than 60 seconds of the game.
Great find
Yeah, reminds me of two more 'fortuitous' aspects of our run that are easy to overlook:
1) We played Thursday / Saturday and then got the extra day rest when we needed it most for the regional semis on Friday / Saturday. It really helped Mitch, but Dave also benefitted. That one day was huge.
2) When we needed to comeback, we happened to face a guy that we had extensive knowledge. For Miami, it was Charlie Moore, and we turned him over several times to start the second half. For UNC, it was Manek. Dave and Mitch had faced Manek many times before. They knew they could post up against him. And when all the marbles were up for grabs, Dave had confidence that he could take on Manek.
Interesting to think about Baylor and how good they still were this year. They lost to the national runner-up UNC in OT. Obviously, that game could have gone either way.. and if it went the other way, they could have matched up in an all B12 Final. That's pretty impressive.
(Also, the way Baylor stormed back on UNC foreshadowed our epic comeback.)
I think of it somewhat like getting a ticket for driving 65 where 55 is posted where people are driving 60-75 all the time.
Driving 55 is the only way to be “squeaky” clean. But driving 55 in that environment makes no sense — you’ll get blown by and put yourself in a position to get hurt.
So you with the flow of traffic and drive 65 in the 55. You don’t go 70, even though others are. You aren’t going the fastest or the slowest.
If the enforcers set up a snare and decide to single you out, what can you do?
It’s a pretty disingenuous application of the law but you can’t get out of it by saying “everyone is driving over the limit.”
@wissox Oh yeah! That's right.. 2x.
We also lost Archie in that game vs Duke. Our tournament history is littered with bad breaks.