Crimsonorblue22 said:
@dylans no what?
You are truly blessed if you haven’t heard and I won’t be the one to tell you. Wait! I mean the saying!!! Nothing more, please don’t read into this. You're beautiful human being. Yikes. I’m done.
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@Kcmatt7 come on down Greedy Williams.
Wanna shed a tear with me @kcmatt7? Earl Thomas nearly joined The honey badger in the Chiefs backfield. Wish he would’ve leveraged the Baltimore deal into more years from the Chiefs. https://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/for-petes-sake/article229133544.html?cid=DM14024&bid=162646685 ↗
You know what they say about that ugly gal? I wouldn’t draft Grimes with your pick.
@Kubie bummer. IDK why that didn’t work. Usually its an easy work around. You may have to delete any tracking cookies first. They’re making it more difficult. The old clear your cookies trick doesn’t work at most news sites anymore, so that probably won’t work either. Sorry.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
@BShark Averaged 2.4 pts in 11.7 minutes in the Big 12. Exrapolating to 30 minutes it's about 7 points. Adjusting for an easier SOS in the Southland probably around 10ish pts.
So we could replace Grimes’ production by playing Mitch more? 😆
Bullpen is about to blow another one. It’s getting comical.
@Kcmatt7 I’d love to have that problem. Like paying taxes on winning the lottery!
Ok, I’m going against convention here too. I loved it when the royals were slapping the ball around the park and stealing bases. Lots of action, but home runs are just one swing of the stick. Lots of nothing then a homer - makes for great highlights, but a boring game to watch.
If Dok were less injury prone, I’d love to see Les use him as a tight end. He’s more likely to make NFL money than NBA.
BShark said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Why hasn't doke decided?
The door may be ajar.
Too injured for the combine and not enough playing time to improve his poor draft stock from last year would be my guess. That’s all it is though.
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Watch Bill close on Stanley and Hampton and Doke stays lol.
- PG: Dotson - Mcbride
- SG: Hampton
- SF : Stanley
- PF: Ochai - Garrett
- C: Doke - Big Dave - Mitch
A pipe dream, but it'd be one hell of a group.
I mean, it's not out of the realm of possibility. KU is well positioned with Stanley.
It's not. And that team would be salty af. Really takes convincing Hampton to come play next to Stanley though.
Imagine all the dunks from that group....
Agree but man RJ would be a NEED because of his shooting.
If I were putting in cb picks I'd say
Hurt - Duke (duh)
Stanley - KU
Precious - KU
RJ - Cloudy
I'd love to get Beverly too and that's a winnable recruitment but man that would take some legendary finessing to get Stanley, RJ and Beverly and I just don't see it happening.
You mean like signing the top 3 small forward prospects and 4 of the top 10 overall? Never say never, but KU doesn’t have Nike ahem influence.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@dylans I wasn't comparing them. Shaka just doesn't seem to get his bigs to score much
Sorry crim, I figured you were making a statement since his stats are readily available.
@Crimsonorblue22 Shaka sucks. He’s wasted 3 straight loto big men
“Once Kansas offered, we sat down as a family, and I knew that was the place,” Agbaji said. “What else are we waiting for?”
Agbaji, who is unranked on Rivals and ranked No. 328 at 247 Sports
I wonder how much money it takes to get an instant commitment of the 328th ranked player?
@Texas-Hawk-10 🤔 I’m glad that’s not my mindset yet. When it is I’ll completely stop watching. This years bs has taken a lot of my enthusiasm away. The team sucked from a rah-rah standpoint, only Mitch and Ochai seemed to be big KU fans coming in (Devon and McCormack will leave as KU fans, but I don’t think they arrived that way). I need many multi-year players in order to give a shit.
@Crimsonorblue22 A 6’11” springy athlete. 10pts 5 rebs, but more importantly 4.3 win shares, 27 PER. Lots of upside, no reason to get exposed in college.
Grimes is a non-athlete. 8 pts 2.5 rebs, 2 asts. 1.4 win shares, 8.7 PER. He wasn’t good according to advanced stats or the eye test, even though his points per game and rebs+assists are very similar in stats to Hayes. If he thinks he can play better he should come back and improve his draft stock. If he thinks he’s been exposed, he had better go while his HS reputation still means something.
I know which one I would take as an NBA gm if those were my two choices.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Ochai?
Woodrow said:
Jaxson Hayes from Texas declared today
Makes sense. He’s a top 10 prospect. Then there are the KU guys. 🤦♂️
@Kcmatt7 I’d agree because it makes business sense, but then there was Vick. Grimes didn’t really have any temper tantrums or issues that I recall; he just wasn’t very good. Ok, not great and definitely not nba material yet.
@BShark He was never engaged. I 💯 % agree, but will recruits see it the same way?
How does this uncertainty effect recruiting? It means recruits can speculate that a player of Grimes’ caliber could return until May 29, I suppose. It seems the late roster turnover hurts KUs recruiting most years. More upper class men are easy to replace as its easily predicable by recruits and coaches both.
A new NCAA rule allows a player who has declared for the draft to return to school even if he has enlisted the services of an agent to help him test his professional prospects. There are several stipulations attached, and if the player returns to school, he must end the relationship with the agent. The deadline to pull out of the draft is May 29.
80th ranked recruit
@bcjayhawk I don’t know. It’s supposed to increase accessibility. As long as Sheehan Zenger didn’t have anything to do with it the people in Kansas should be able to watch the games.
@Kubie use a vpn and change your address to the USA.
BShark said:
Getting good players that stay multiple years is the key. Look at UNC and Nova during their titles. KU's player retention hasn't been great.
We have a winner...like ‘08
@Crimsonorblue22 waaay too long of an article for an ex-Jayhawk who never produced in his one year. If he comes back I’ll read it with interest.
@bcjayhawk yes there is an iOS (apple)app and android as well.
Well, looks like I’ll be renewing my espn+ subscription next season.
It was just 5 minutes away.
@approxinfinity Who’s impartial? Nepotism, racism, sexism - most people do without really knowing. What makes me sad is the unwillingness to compromise. Lately society has shifted to picking a side and defending it to the death even if wrong.
@wissox I’d make an exception for anyone who carries KU to a championship! And there are ways a one year player could do it under the current guidelines- tournament MOP or NPOY would guarantee a spot in the rafters.
@kjayhawks That’s probably when my deep seething hatred for Duke began.
Lol I had a couple interns last summer who started talking trash in KU. I let them as it doesn’t make me any bigger being twice their age and their boss. But I threw in a (I thought) fairly safe ok, but I absolutely can’t stand Duke (not that nicely though). The next day that bozo was wearing a ratty old Duke shirt. He’s a huge Duke fan (and KSU fan too, the depths I sink to to get help). I grilled the other helper (his HS best friend, both from small town KS mind you) to find out if he was for real or just messing with me. He was legitimately a Duke fan. Yikes, open mouth insert foot. But then I let him have it in a more good natured manner and all was well.
Kcmatt7 said:
We still down on Tony Bennett?
Nah, but does he get to keep the ACC refs I’ve been hearing about? 😝
@approxinfinity I didn’t watch any of it; I’m not mad...yet. Lol
@approxinfinity Glad (for you that) your (second) team won!
@BShark kinda. It’s pretty easy to get in The rafters now. It used to take 3 all American years or consensus POY. No one was getting retired they relaxed the guidelines at Roy’s request as I recall.
Fightsongwriter said:
@dylans only first team
Makes sense. Dedrick was ok, but not rafter worthy IMHO.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@Fightsongwriter I think it is a pretty prestigious award! Being a top 15 player! Why would they pick them if it wasn't an honor?
Doesn’t a consensus AA get his number retired by KUs guidelines?
@drgnslayr I love what Beard is doing. I wish Hoiberg was still at ISU pushing Self also. Beard is the only coach in America I’m jealous of. First time I’ve felt that since KU played a team coached by a young Billy Self.
And KU didn’t effect KSU at all this year. Makes zero sense.
Quit playing dumb to support your narrative. I seem to remember a very gimpy Wade playing late in the season in an attempt to 1) beat KU 2) dethrone KU as conference champs. IMO this was at the expense of Wade’s health and KSU’s post season chances.
I didn’t defend anyone, just pointed out your never ending stream of hatred for those players and at Self’s willingness to play them.
Lucas was never supposed to start. He was 1/2 of an emergency backup plan that included Braeden Anderson. He was recruited over every single year. Did he complain? Did he transfer out? No, he gave KU all he had. Was it enough to win a championship? No. Did he embarrass the University? No. He worked his butt off and gave KU all he had for 5 years. None of those highly ranked recruits that were suppose to replace him were nearly smart enough to learn the system fast enough to not negatively effect the team. i.e. Diallo was rough on a fairly smooth running team. Alexander’s mom is the reason Alexander wasn’t able to finish his freshman year. He was just becoming a nice player. Top 25 recruit and a sophomore, Bragg, was unable to get his head straight and has since transferred...twice. Udoka got injured his freshman year. Lucas was supposed to be a backup and solid practice player.
Hating on Lucas is like hating on Moody. Neither were supposed to start. Neither were KU caliber talent, but their hard play was rewarded due to roster construction.
There is no perfect system. Most 4-5 year guys are worse than Lucas. OADs don’t always flourish under complex systems like Self/Wright run. 2-3 year high talent guys are hard to identify - Grimes should be one, but seems dead set on being a OAD. Devon, Ochai, and David are the type of players I love seeing and hope to see more of.
Doesn’t it seem like certain players were forced upon Kansas by Adidas? The recruits out of left field like Diallo and Preston, or possibly Wright and SDS?
@HighEliteMajor You work awfully hard to undercut Self at every turn. Are you related to Diallo? Did your kid not get a scholarship because of Traylor? Did Lucas piss in your gas tank?
This year was doomed when Dok and SDS were taken out of the equation. No need to kick the dog. Look for positive signs of growth going forward. I’m pumped about Ochai, Dotson, and McCormack! I hope Grimes sticks around and the light comes on for him soon. I’m excited to see what recruits the staff is able to bring in, there are a number of positions that need help and quality recruits are dwindling. Typical problem when you have so much late roster turnover of underclassmen.
No need to fixate on the shortcomings of the past. There will be hard times ahead, but the future is always bright, this is Kansas!!!
Smh it’s easy to tear things down. Try building them up.
HighEliteMajor said:
Well, or one that lost in the first round to the Anteaters.
You mean the pre-season top 10 team that lost its core late in the season due to the stress of pushing thru trying to overcoming KU? The team that a shell of a KU team ruined based solely upon reputation???
Don’t do it Rick!
@drgnslayr If it makes you feel any better it took a team that’s in the NC to unseat KU as conference champs.
@approxinfinity I’m kinda surprised anyone remembered him (for a hire) a year later. No return trip this year only one 16 seed to his record.
Wow, just saw the ending to the Virginia/Auburn game. Auburn got screwed big time. I don’t care for Pearl, but I hate to see anyone not named Duke get jobbed like that.